Calexit – Beat the Crowd

CalexitOur country has become bitterly divided. No matter who won the election, I predicted we would soon be reading about states wanting to secede from the union.

Even before President Trump was sworn in, the California movement, known as Calexit, began. The first step is to ask voters to adopt a state Constitutional Amendment revoking the U. S. Constitution as the supreme law.

YesCalifornia.org makes this appeal:

“As the sixth largest economy in the world, California is more economically powerful than France and has a population larger than Poland. Point by point, California compares and competes with countries, not just the 49 other states.

Since 1987, California has been subsidizing the other states at a loss of tens and sometimes hundreds of billions of dollars in a single fiscal year.

…In our view, the United States of America represents so many things that conflict with Californian values, and our continued statehood means California will continue subsidizing the other states to our own detriment, and to the detriment of our children.”

They outline reasons why citizens should vote for secession. Point 9 is a bit different, “California has some of the best universities but in various ways, our schools are among the worst in the country.”

I’m unable to determine if the claim “hundreds of billions of dollars” is accurate. How is it calculated? Is a post office or military base returning money back to the state? Creditloan.com indicates California receives $.78 back for every $1.00 is sends to the federal government. Maybe they have a point.

Different values causes divorce

Our founding fathers felt the values of the King of England conflicted with the values of the colonies. Many Americans cheered the British on when they opted out of the European Union. For both situations, oppressive taxation, different values and cost and control of the central government was a motivating factor.

Be careful what you wish for

Things are not all sunny in the land of milk and honey. Currently the California Public Employees’ Retirement System (CalPERS) is woefully underfunded. The Mercury News editorial, “CalPERS again falls short of addressing deficit” reports the fund has lowered the projected earnings estimates from 7.5% down to 7% in 2019. They add one inconvenient truth:

“To understand how far short this move falls, consider that CalPERS announced Wednesday that it hadn’t hit a 7 percent average over the last 20 years and, going forward, it estimates that there’s only roughly a 1-in-4 chance that it will meet that target.

… CalPERS consultant warns that the pension system should anticipate only an average 6.2 percent in each of the next 10 years.

… That places the system’s shortfall at about $170 billion, which averages more than $13,000 of debt for each California household.”

The optimistic vision of the secessionist movement overlook a major factor. The California political class is predominantly socialists, redistributing wealth through progressive taxation and free programs to voters to maintain their power. If secession brings an economic windfall it would quickly be spent. As Margaret Thatcher warned, “The problem with socialism is you run out of other people’s money.”

Beat the Crowd

George Bernard Shaw said, “A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.” In many cases Peter quietly moved away and took his money with him.

Remember when top professional golfer, Phil Michelson created quite a stir complaining about California taxes, while putting his home up for sale? He would have been better off staying quiet about his reasons. California Political Review reports:

“Tiger Woods moved from Orange County, California to Orange County, Florida. In the first year of that move, he saved $13 million in taxes. Is it worth $13 million a year taken by government to live in California? Woods said no. Now it looks like Phil Michelson is about to make the same decision. He earns $60 million a year-he would save north of $5 million a year to move to a free State, like Florida or Texas.”

The New York Post reports:

“Billionaire David Tepper has moved from New Jersey to Florida, and the loss of his income tax could leave a $140 million hole. … Forty percent of the state’s revenue comes from personal-income tax – a third of which is collected from less than 1 percent of taxpayers. Tepper was New Jersey’s wealthiest resident.”

It’s not just the heavy hitters

When we moved to Phoenix we joined a local club in order to meet people. Each month new members stand up and introduce themselves. We noticed a large number of Californians. While my survey is unscientific, I’ve asked many why they moved. Every one mentioned how expensive California is to live. One former Californian remarked, “There are a lot of California refugees in Arizona and Nevada.”

We lived in Georgia when they passed a state income tax. While it’s progressive, the top rate (6%) kicks in at $7,000. At the time I was in my peak earning years and could live anywhere.

I was an early immigrant. The first time I paid GA income tax, I realized our other taxes did not go down. What did I get back from the government for confiscating an additional 6% of my earnings? We quickly moved to Florida, with no state income taxes. Florida is full of refugees fleeing other high tax states.

The migration continues. In 2013 the Tax Foundation published a State Migration Calculator and great graphic:

Tax Foundation Map

The high tax socialist states are losing billions in adjusted gross income, while states like Texas and Florida are growing. The Washington Examiner reports the trend is continuing and concludes, “The growth in no-income-tax and right-to-work states was fueled largely by net domestic migration rather than international migration (Emphasis mine), according to the 2016 Census estimates.”

The landscape is changing

The election of President Trump sent shock waves through much of the political class. Many public union pensions are woefully underfunded. They donated millions to Hillary Clinton’s election campaign and expected federal bailouts. They knew they could count on Mrs. Clinton; she has a great track record of rewarding her political donors. Today no one knows what the new administration will do.

In the meantime, the scramble is on. The politicians in states that have been heavily supporting Paul have a huge base, not because they have won over the hearts and minds of Peter; but rather because the working class got tired of being fleeced and left. The politicos have to find ways to make good on all their free programs. Cutting benefits will cause citizens to storm the palace. They must find ways to generate more revenue.

Brian Daniels warns us, The Growing Specter of State “Exit Taxes” as Residents Abandon High-Tax States:

“To be clear, it is not legal for states to charge a true exit tax on citizens changing their residency from one state to another (this is not the case for the federal government, which does charge a large exit tax).

So what do high-tax states do to try and prevent their residents from moving their legal residence to low- or no-tax states? In a word, they audit them.”

When a taxpayer is audited, the agency issues an assessment for unpaid taxes. It’s not “innocent until proven guilty.” You must prove they are wrong or the assessment stands.

Once you intend to leave you are of no value to the politicos. Most people do not have the means to go to court. For some, it becomes a government shakedown to extract as much wealth as they can on your way out the door.

What about Calexit?

With the mindset of California voters, who knows what will happen?

I don’t recommend holding any California government debt, including holdings in bond funds. While the probability of secession may be small, might they establish their own currency and try to renegotiate their debt? Holding California debt is an unnecessary risk to take with retirement money.

Should they vote to secede, Californians would face a choice of leaving or staying. If you choose to leave, expect a hefty exit tax. If you are thinking about leaving, why wait? Walk quietly and beat the rush!

And Finally…

“A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.” – Thomas Jefferson

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Dennis
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BUCKHED
BUCKHED
February 23, 2017 12:21 pm

Good by Cali…so long and don’t let the illegal trap door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Cali will continue to pass draconian laws that take away every right that the average citizen needs to protect themselves from the state . That coupled with the continued influx of sub-80 IQ illegals will drown them in the red ink of the Socialist wave.

Eventually Cali will become a 3rd world crap hole that no one wants to live in or do business with .

Dutchman
Dutchman
February 23, 2017 12:47 pm

I think we all wish they would leave. We would have to build a fence around it also.

There are complications: what are they going to use for currency? Not US dollars. Becoming a foreign country has a lot of ramifications. Naturally everyone living there would have to renounce their citizenship. They would need a new constitution, etc.

I say get rid of them, their debt, their illegals. When the ‘big one happens’ – send them a card.

PatrioTEA
PatrioTEA
February 23, 2017 1:10 pm

Please leave sooner, rather than later. And, don’t expect foreign aid from the US, especially for that Oroville Dam debacle. Deal with that Global Warming drought yourselves.

Dutchman
Dutchman
  PatrioTEA
February 23, 2017 3:05 pm

(Ring the bell) Da Dam – Da Dam………. here comes the dam – in little ity-bity-pieces.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  PatrioTEA
February 23, 2017 11:30 pm

Drought’s over, doofus. You said so yourself, the dam is threatened by too much water. We had a moran commenting here not long ago, asking why Cali didn’t have the foresight to build reservoirs.
Cali has reservoirs. There comes a time when you can’t hold all the water that arrives when the winter is not cold enough to store it as snow on the mountains. That snowpack is another water banking system Cali uses. Please stop commenting stupid stuff about Cali.

B LEVER
B LEVER
  EL Coyote
February 24, 2017 12:53 am

EC- Just very curious as to what you would do if such an exit ever actually happened. With your superior intellect, you could be the Emperor of Cali or maybe just the president in the least.

I’m sure you could handle the position, and then lead the charge to invade the USA!USA!USA!.

Viva EL Coyote…..

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  B LEVER
February 24, 2017 11:29 am

Bea, I’m from Texas. The only reason I can’t leave is because the sexy mulatta is from LA. As for superior intellect, not really but I got a better education in Texas than you can get here in Cali. The barrio Hispanics here are quite dumb.

Hayseed
Hayseed
February 23, 2017 1:23 pm

Cali can’t leave, unless the federal government collapses. Remember the Civil War, or as the South says, the War of Succession. There are too many federal bases and research labs within the state. Love them, or hate them, they only leave if we all do.

Dennis Miller
Dennis Miller
  Hayseed
February 23, 2017 2:38 pm

Dear Hayseed,

What if they vote to secede? It may be their choice.

Unlike 1860, who would go to war to keep them as part of the union?

Who would go to war to fight for CA independence?

I know it sounds a bit over the top but I can’t see a war between the states.

There was a Russian scholar who predicted the US would break apart like Russia did. He lost a lot of credibility because he said it would happen in 2014; however his reasoning was pretty solid. If CA decided to secede, would Texas do the same thing?

Personally I doubt we will see it anytime soon, but you never know how Californians are going to vote; particularly if more companies continue to leave and take jobs with them.

Best regards,
Dennis Miller

Dutchman
Dutchman
  Dennis Miller
February 23, 2017 3:50 pm

Yeah, who want’s to fight to keep the illegals and queers?

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Dutchman
February 24, 2017 11:30 am

Or the ‘bot fuckers?

Hayseed
Hayseed
  Dennis Miller
February 23, 2017 5:27 pm

Who has to actually fight? Russia proved that in Crimea. Outside of the large cities, I suspect the state is as conservative as the rural parts of my own home state of MN. The federal government could clamp down on 90% of the state in a couple days, and let the rest burn down. Problem solved. But, of course they would prefer it didn’t come to that. But if it push comes to shove, they’ll clamp down as hard as they must.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Hayseed
February 23, 2017 11:32 pm

Did you mean secession? Although Billy said they called it the war of northern aggression.

Rdawg
Rdawg
February 23, 2017 1:30 pm

One thing I don’t get; maybe somebody here can ‘splain it. Why so many high-tech, pharmaceutical, software companies and so on in California? The university system? Legacy from a bygone era?

Dennis Miller
Dennis Miller
  Rdawg
February 23, 2017 2:39 pm

Hi,

It may go back to Hewlett-Packard which started in Palo Alto in a garage.

Best regards,
Dennis Miller

Fergus
Fergus
February 23, 2017 3:32 pm

If California leaves within 20 years it will be the richest 3rd world nation in the world. A state that uses Venezuela as a model is doomed.

How many industries have fled California to be replaced by leeches, politicians and the denizens of Hollywerid.

Ammo
Ammo
February 23, 2017 3:39 pm

So glad you quoted Jefferson in your writing…..Those of us still stuck here have found an option and we are fighting back with the State of Jefferson movement. http://www.soj51.net/ They laughed at the Tea Party movement, but it helped get Trump elected. Last I read, the sanctuary city thing is overwhelmingly opposed by legal Californians. Check out the website and get informed.

Dennis Miller
Dennis Miller
  Ammo
February 23, 2017 3:56 pm

Hi Ammo,

Jo and I were in DC with several hundred thousand of our new best friends. Obamacare woke up a lot of people who had never been politically active.

Best regards,
Dennis Miller

james the deplorable wanderer
james the deplorable wanderer
  Dennis Miller
February 24, 2017 8:07 pm

Are you “the” Dennis Miller, comedian / radio commentator?
If so, welcome to TBP. I love your work.

Dennis Miller
Dennis Miller
  james the deplorable wanderer
February 28, 2017 10:55 pm

Hi,

No, I had the name before he did. I spent almost 40 years in front of audiences and can be funnier than he is at times.

Thanks for asking,
Dennis

Miles Long
Miles Long
February 23, 2017 3:46 pm
mangledman
mangledman
February 23, 2017 4:41 pm

California is home to most of US deepwater ports. High % of our produce veggies and meat comes from west. “o” gave ports control to China about 3 yrs. back. We will have no naval ports west coast for US Navy. Talk of California embassy in Russia already. One of demo bimbos made fortune selling drought stricken land to to China, after scooping it up for pennies on the $. State of Jefferson stands to be wiped out if Oroville dam breaks. These dams all appear to be in hot seismic locations. Go figure. Calexit from my learning doesn’t look like a good option, but hey a bunch of radicals standing up to the ICE purge that is coming, oh well. We could send em all to Mexico.
Swords sharp,powder dry

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
February 23, 2017 6:15 pm

Part of Trump’s tax policy during the campaign was to eliminate most deductions except for charitable and (limited) mortgage interest. That means eliminating deductibility of state & local income taxes as well as property taxes. If that actually came to pass in a federal income tax overhaul, it would strongly incent states to cut spending & taxes, since high state taxes would no longer be partially subsidized by the federal tax code. MA, CA, HI, MN – the high tax states – would be under pressure.

Hollow man
Hollow man
February 23, 2017 11:09 pm

Let them go. If Texas wants to go well. Ye haw!

Vic
Vic
February 24, 2017 2:21 am

I don’t expect it will happen when they realize the Feds give out Social Security and Medicare benefits. Don’t expect a refund! They can barely keep up with what they’re paying out now without paying out refunds. So, no, won’t happen.