I went to bed at 9:30 last night and woke up to this bullshit. I was disappointed in Trump adding all those Goldman Sachs scumbags as his advisors. I was disappointed he supported Obamacare lite rather than repealing and replacing it. His tax plans look to be dead on arrival. Now, the guy who ran as a non-interventionist, like his two predecessors, has been co-opted by the neo-cons and the military industrial complex. Syria has never posed a threat to the security of the United States. They posed a threat to the Saudi pipeline to Europe. Assad didn’t gas those people. This was a false flag by the “moderate” rebels.
It becomes clearer by the day how powerful the Deep State has become. Trump is doing what he has been told to do. Bush, Obama and Trump must be brought into a room and told to obey their orders or they will be JFK’d. This attack on a sovereign nation without authorization from Congress is an act of war. Russia and Iran are Syria’s allies. The Chinese will support Russia. Trump may have just let the genie out of the bottle and this Fourth Turning is about to become bloody.
Donald Trump will get no support from this website henceforth. I judge people based upon their actions, not their words. His actions tell me everything I need to know about his character and integrity.
Trump Unleashes Military Strikes: 59 Tomahawk Missiles Hit Syria
Update: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu responds to US missile strikes on Syria – This “will resonate not only in Damascus, but in Tehran, Pyongyang and elsewhere”
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As previewed earlier tonight, the United States fired a barrage of cruise missiles into Syria on Friday morning in retaliation for this week’s alleged chemical weapons attack against civilians by the Assad regime, U.S. officials said. It was the first direct American assault on the Syrian government and Donald Trump’s most dramatic military order since becoming president. According to NBC, only tomahawks missiles fired, no fixed wing aircraft involved, for now.
Video of Trump's first strike against Assad assets. #Syria pic.twitter.com/EassW59Tfb
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As AP notes, the surprise strike marked a striking reversal for Trump, who warned as a candidate against the U.S. getting pulled into the Syrian civil war, now in its seventh year. But the president appeared moved by the photos of children killed in the chemical attack, calling it a “disgrace to humanity” that crossed “a lot of lines.”
The president did not announce the attacks in advance, though he and other national security officials ratcheted up their warnings to the Syrian government throughout the day Thursday. National Security Advisor McMaster, quoted by Reuters, said that Trump was given 3 options for retaliating and told advisors to focus on 2; he added that Trump made the decision on Thursday.
The strike early Friday morning in Syria targeted hangars, planes and fuel tanks at one Syrian military airfield, according to a U.S. official. The U.S. attacked with about 60 Raytheon Co. Tomahawk cruise missiles fired from two Navy destroyers.
59 U.S. Tomahawk missiles, fired from warships in the Mediterranean Sea, targeted an air base in retaliation for a chemical weapons attack that American officials believe Syrian government aircraft launched with a nerve agent; hangars, planes and fuel tanks were targeted, a U.S. official sais. Two Navy destroyers launched Raytheon missiles against Syria two days after Bashar al-Assad’s regime used poison gas to kill scores of civilians
NBC adds that a high ranking administration official says foreign countries from Arab states to Canada supported tonight’s strikes vs. Syria.
The decision to strike in Syria marks a stark reversal for President Trump, who during his presidential campaign faulted past U.S. leaders for getting embroiled in conflicts in the Middle East
The attack occurred while Trump was at his Florida estate after a dinner with Chinese President Xi Jinping, where they were to discuss what to do about North Korea’s nuclear program and U.S.-China trade disagreements. Traveling to Mar-a-Lago from Washington on Thursday, Trump spoke to reporters aboard Air Force One about Assad, saying “what happened in Syria is a disgrace to humanity. And he’s there, and I guess he’s running things. So something should happen.”
It was not immediately clear if Trump’s action had been precleared with Putin in advance.
According to local reports, “32 Minutes ago about hearing Very Loud Sounds & Sky Was Lit up from Airbase He says Now Its “QUIET”“
The market’s reaction was immediate:
- S&P 500 FUTURES ERASE GAINS AFTER U.S. LAUNCHES SYRIA STRIKE
- TREASURY 10-YR YIELD FALLS 4BPS TO 2.31% ON US STRIKES IN SYRIA
According to the local press pool at Mar-A-Lago, Trump is speaking to reporters now about air strike in Syria. It can’t be broadcast live because of technical restrictions at Mar-a-Lago.
The speech can be seen here, and here is the full transciprt:
My fellow Americans, on Tuesday Syrian dictator Bashar al Assad launched a horrible chemical weapons attack on innocent civilians. using a deadly nerve agent, Assad choked out the lives of helpless men, women and children.
It was a slow and brutal death for so many, even beautiful babies were cruelly murdered in this very barbaric attack. No child of God should ever suffer such horror.
Tonight I ordered a targeted military strike on the airfield in Syria from where the chemical attack was launched. It is in this vital national security interest of the United States to prevent and deter the spread and use of deadly chemical weapons.
There can be no dispute that Syria used banned chemical weapons violated its obligations under the chemical weapons convention and ignored the urging of the UN Security Council.
Years of previous attempts at changing Assad’s behavior have all failed and failed very dramatically. As a result the refugee crisis continues to deepen and the region continues to destabilize threatening the United States and its allies.
Tonight I call on all civilized nations to join us in seeking to end the slaughter and bloodshed in Syria. And also to end terrorism of all kinds and all types.
We ask for God’s wisdom as we face the challenge of our very troubled world. We pray for the lives of the wounded and for the souls of those who have passed and we hope that as long as american stands for justice then peace and harmony will in the end prevail. Goodnight and God bless America and the entire world. Thank you.
At the same time, Syrian state TV said that “American aggression targets Syrian military targets with a number of missiles.”
Rand Paul who has been vocally against any strikes, opined on twitter:
The President needs Congressional authorization for military action as required by the Constitution.
— Senator Rand Paul (@RandPaul) April 7, 2017
Our prior interventions in this region have done nothing to make us safer and Syria will be no different.
— Senator Rand Paul (@RandPaul) April 7, 2017
Democratic Sen. Ben Cardin said in a statement in support of the airstrike, but he stressed that “any longer-term or larger military operation in Syria by the Trump Administration will need to be done in consultation with the Congress.”
CBS further reports that two dozen members of Congress were notified by White House and Cabinet officials of the airstrike. The White House will be providing a list of these members shortly that includes people on both sides of the aisle.
Meanwhile, Pentagon spokesperson Jeff Davis says in briefing to reporters that it informed Russia ahead of the missile strike. He added that the “U.S. took great precaution to avoid Russian housing.”
In the statement, the Pentagon said a total of 59 Tomahawk Land Attack Missiles targeted aircraft, petroleum and logistical storage, ammunition supply bunkers, air defense systems and radars. The Pentagon stressed that “extraordinary measures” were taken to avoid civilian causalities. The Penaton confirmed that the strike targeted Shayrat Airfield in Homs.
On this point, the WaPo’s Josh Rogin asks, “Russians were at that airbase but got a heads up. Still, why were they at the chemical weapons base?” Perhaps because there were no chemical weapons there?
Rex Tillerson added, however, that the US “sought no approval from Moscow.” He added that Russia is either complicit or “simply incompetent” for not adhering to a 2013 commitment to secure Syria’s chemical weapons, the Associated Press reports.
House Speaker Paul Ryan called the airstrikes “appropriate and just.” At the end of the statement, Ryan said he looks “forward to the administration further engaging Congress in this effort.”
According to the press pool, Trump personally informed China’s president Xi of the Syria strike.
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While we await Russia’s reaction, earlier in the day Russia’s deputy U.N. envoy, Vladimir Safronkov, warned on Thursday of “negative consequences” if the United States carries out military strikes on Syria.
“We have to think about negative consequences, negative consequences, and all the responsibility if military action occurred will be on shoulders of those who initiated such doubtful and tragic enterprise,” Safronkov told reporters when asked about possible U.S. strikes. When asked what those negative consequences could be, he said: “Look at Iraq, look at Libya.”
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For now, the attack appears to be over with ABC quoting a U.S. official after U.S. missiles fired at Syrian airbase who said: “We’re done until another decision is made.
Agreed. I’m done with him too. What a ‘rush to judgement’!
I can proudly say that I didn’t vote for him. This war is not on my conscience.
It’s hard to make a rational decision about Trump’s motives after this, or to know who influenced him other than the neocons (perhaps his daughter Ivanka seeing the supposed baby victims).
However, I’ll take a wait and see attitude for the time being. He has a way of coming out on top of things no matter what obstacles put before him. But this time, if his base turns away, all bets are off. This would be a good time for a rally where he could speak plainly to “the folks”, because he’s got some ‘splaining to do.
Is he still our Grey Champion?
Did Lincoln and FDR do bad shit? They were the previous Grey Champions.
It doesn’t have to have a positive connotation.
Well that was a short honeymoon.
With all the options of what to do, all the really important issues facing this country that are relegated to more discussion and debate and foot dragging going on and on and on without being dealt with he chooses military action against a sovereign nation that hasn’t threatened or harmed us?
He had a chance- slim as it was- and he blew it bigly.
Sad.
“Meet the new boss, same as the old boss”
1971, The Who.
“War is Peace”. We are at war with Syria. We have always been at war with Syria. We are at war with Russia. We have always been at war with Russia. We are at war with Iran. We have always been at war with Iran. We are at war with Islamist terrorists. We have always been at war with terrorists. Where the fuck is congress? Rand Paul is the only one with any balls to explain that this is an act of war. I’m sure McCain and Lindsey are jerking each other off over these actions.
Admin, good call on going to bed at 930.
I unfortunately stayed up just long enough to see the news alert pop up and i was up an extra 2 hrs pissed to high hell.
Trump just seppuku’ed his presidency, explains why the MSM is jizzin their pants.
Of course Trump has been co-opted by the Deep State. There hasn’t been a real President since JFK and they assassinated him in broad daylight on TV as a warning to future Presidents to toe the line. The only good you can say about Trump is he’s the lesser of two evils.
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I want my vote back.
Never ever will I vote again
for anyone
I’ve always thought the prepper bunch a bit fringe
no more
I’m bullish on hidey holes
I think it was George Carlin who said that if your vote mattered, they wouldn’t let you vote.
Actually it was Mark Twain who said: “If voting made a difference, they wouldn’t let us do it. ”
But Carlin certainly held that same opinion.
A vote against the hag and war still ended in a vote for war. Damned if you do. Damned if you don’t. No vote, same result. Always war. It’s a fucked up world.
Join the non-voting club. Why play the game?
Trump is a dirty fucking cunt. No amount of douche will ever be able to cleanse him.
Loopey – One hundred years from now you will be declared a gifted orator for your tasteful and heartfelt comments on El Trumpo.
Why wait? Go ahead, declare away! It will not go to my head. I promise!
Unfucking believable. I am done with voting. Done with playing this fucking game. They are all evil and corrupted . The only thing that will change the Deep State is it to be taken out. Preferably by God, but at this point anything, anyone. A goddamn fool could see this was a “false flag”. Trump is either a fool, or completely controlled. We are fucked.
I wholeheartedly agree with Admin; Trump lost any remaining support I had for him with this stupid and dangerous maneuver. Trump is now owned by the neocons, and we are headed for war.
These people are just fucking evil. All of them. In the end, they will all burn in hell.
Gen’rals gathered in their masses,
Just like witches at black masses
Evil minds that plot destruction,
Sorcerer of death’s construction
In the fields the bodies burning,
As the war machine keeps turning
Death and hatred to mankind,
Poisoning their brainwashed minds
Oh Lord yeah
Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role for the poor, yeah
Time will tell on their power minds,
Making war just for fun
Treating people just like pawns in chess,
Wait ’till their judgement day comes, yeah
Now in darkness world stops turning,
Ashes where the bodies burning
No more War Pigs have the power,
Hand of God has struck the hour
Day of judgement, God is calling
On their knees the war pigs crawling,
Begging mercies for their sins
Satan, laughing, spreads his wings
Oh Lord yeah
Great song, and so true. Judgment Day arrives, sooner or later.
Truly it seems like there is no American government anymore, but the deep state?
They will have their way no matter who is in office, what the populace wants, or what the voters vote for.
The deep state has taken over completely. They are in total control.
I have no idea now how we can effect any kind of alteration on their program.
I am 64 years old and this shit has been going on all my life. It is clear that they have won, and nothing I have ever done, no vote nor protest or opting out has ever made one fuck worth of difference.
We had one chance, one.
Nothing but anger with ‘Trump the NeoCon’
Sad…..very Bigly sad…..
One Term, then gone
Lied to his base
Not sure if he’ll make it a full term after this.
He’s like a heavyweight on the canvas, seeing stars, struggling to get to his feet before the ten-count, with the Deep State towering above him with blood in their eyes!
HOORAY for those who have decided to cast off the farce of voting! Good for you. Now stick with it. I think you’ll find, as I did, that it costs nothing and is actually a refreshing break from following orders issued by those on high pulling your strings. You’ll not be burdened by having to defend lying phonies like Trump, Schumer, Rubio, etc. You can lie back and watch assholes vote for hope and change which provides hours of entertainment. You’ll grow to love the objectivity that comes from not having a stake in a corrupt process that dirties all who engage with it. Finally, you’ll always get the last laugh. Welcome to anarchy (the absence of government and absolute freedom of the individual, regarded as a political idea)
I do not want the fucking last laugh, asshole. I do not want anarchy.
I want a goddamn future for my kids and grandkids. I want them to have peace, and to not be saddled with debt because of me and my generation. I want my kids to be able to benefit by their labors, or to suffer the consequence of their sloth. All I ask is that they, and others, can have decent life, earned by the sweat of their brows.
I take no joy whatsoever in this. And curse those that do.
So you vote??? You beg for freedom?? Who’s the asshole?
CCDouchebag – I made myself clear. The asshole is you. Taking pleasure in the misery of decent Americans is despicable. Go fuck yourself, dickwad.
Hey everyone look over this joker’s posts and tell me what he brings to the discussion. Then try someone with a measurable intellect; Hans H Hoppe. I’ve often been thrilled to see him quoted on this site. His book “Democracy; The God That Failed will change your life. Democracy (despised by our Founders) was devised by the ruling elite. It’s a top down game you never win. Never.
The US is not a democracy, nor was it so intended. It is a Republic. And what is the purpose of the Republic, at its core? To protect the individual from the masses, to prevent the masses from voting to take from the individual.
I agree that the current situation is appalling, and the grand ideals and visions of the Founding Fathers have spiralled down the toilet.
But I take no pleasure in it. Those that try to change things at the ballot box may be wasting their time, but in many cases they have good intent. You called them “assholes”.
That is tarring many fine people with a broad brush. Believe it or not, I hold the bulk of Americans in high esteem. They simply are ignorant. Ne day they will awaken, and realize that the answer lies in their own actions, and that the government should not be involved in taking care of them via pensions, healthcare, welfare. It is not the place of government to do those things.
A reasonable response. I call those who think voting can bring about the results you ask for in your 1st post assholes because it was voting for the lesser of evils that got us into this mess to begin with. Perhaps I was too cruel with that description. Maybe fool is a better one. Basing the future well being of your loved ones on the hope that those in power actually give a rats ass about you is the mark of a fool.
Not experiencing any joy here either but as my father always said: “Want in one hand and shit in the and see which one fills up faster.”
Want only matters to our owners and we are not them. We are fodder and play things to them.
In my limited life experience “peace” is an unnatural state although I think we’d have more of it if we were free and not owned. The trouble is that very, very few want the responsibilities that come with freedom. Being owned is far easier for the majority.
Trumpster is a zionist jew loving fraud. He takes his orders from israel and the jew dirtbags.
Lovett the one trick pony gallops in, takes a shit, and trots off. An ant has more intelligence than this asshat. There never was a problem that the Jews did not create. What a fucking intellectual giant.
Whatever. He’s right. You know he’s right, so all you can do is insult him.
Z – and here all these years you said you were not against Jews, just Israel. Come to find out, I was right – you are just a run of the mill Jew hater.
Actually what I have said is that if Jews don’t distance themselves from the crimes of Israel and the zionists, then they will be swept up as well in the inevitable backlash. You, by continually lumping together anti-zionism and antisemitism are just playing along with the neocon narrative. You should be smart enough to see that, but apparently you aren’t.
As for me, I am not scared in the least of being tagged as a jew-hater, anti-semite or whatever. It has no importance to me whatsoever, so if it makes you feel better to term me as such then by all means, do so.
Actually, what you said is “He’s right”. And what he said was “Trumpster is a zionist jew loving fraud. He takes his orders from israel and the jew dirtbags.” There is no room for equivocation there. That is classic anti-semitism. Every post he makes is the same.
So, that makes you nothing but a run of the mill Jew hater, given you say he is right.
It is not surprising that Israel supports anything that damages the Muslim nations around it. But take a look around – how many non-Jew warmongers are supporting this bullshit attack? Well, by golly, that would be a very large number indeed.
There is no shortage of warmongers out there – Jew, Gentile, Muslim. To lay this entirely at the feet of Israel is the height of stupidity.
Do your research on the jews clown.
I have met only a few people with a single digit IQ You are on the list slickum.
Jewhater Lovett – the only thing you have ever posted on this site is that Jews are evil and responsible for all evils. Your pony knows but one trick. We know nothing else about you, because your hate-filled peabrain is incapable of any other thought.
Are you capable of thought, or are you just a lame troll program that spits out its one line of code over and over: Jews bad! Enquiring minds want to know.
We dont know exactly who or what leads this country, but whatever it is, it isnt Trump. America is clearly a puppet state. The only question is, puppet of whom or of what?
satan–the ultimate globalist since his first pawn Nebuchadnezzar….nothing new under the sun
To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.
Voltaire
Wow. Nothing changes. Same shit. Different day.
https://www.rt.com/uk/383866-farage-nuttall-trump-syria/
“Former UKIP leader Nigel Farage has criticized his ally US President Donald Trump for ordering a missile strike against an airbase in Syria in response to an alleged chemical weapons attack.
The MEP warned that many Trump voters will be confused by his retaliation.
“I am very surprised by this. I think a lot of Trump voters will be waking up this morning and scratching their heads and saying, ‘where will it all end?’” he said.
“As a firm Trump supporter, I say, yes, the pictures were horrible, but I’m surprised. Whatever Assad’s sins, he is secular.”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-07/first-images-aftermath-inefficient-us-missile-strikes-emerge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow5Ux17YKdM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxoXCBTs2IM
Also they are picking up the “victims” not wearing any gloves. If a nerve agent was used it would effect the people carrying the “victims”
If it was sarin gas, one droplet is deadly….so the medics know it’s all fake…
Yes but, these are the guys who smoke while handling explosives.
Have you ever used military explosives?
Besides the detonators (blasting caps) most of them are idiot-proof.
You can jump up and down on C4 all day or light it on fire.
As long as you don’t combine the two it won’t blow up.
But if you happen to have some on your fingers when you eat, your bowels explode….
Trump has been captured by the neocons, to quote Paul Craig Roberts. The deep state/establishment has caged him, and he’s surrendered.
Basher Al-Assad was on the verge of achieving final victory against Islamic State and then this happens. John McCain and Lindsey Graham sent out a memo rejoicing over this act of war. If those two are pleased, that’s all the proof I need to know this was not in America’s interests.
Trump has in a bit over 65 days betrayed his voters by adopting a neocon foreign policy. Russia is not going to take this without some kind of retaliation (even if this means not striking at U.S. positions unless struck first).
I still agree with some of Trump’s domestic policies, but to me, this shows that my support of Ron Paul in 2008 and in 2012 was right. War is a racket.
Hillary, Trump. Bush, Obama. What’s the difference?
The herd wanted a business leader and the herd gets what it wants …and so does the MIC.
According to the US Department of Defence’s annual budget, a single Tomahawk missile costs $1.59 million.
Combine that by the 59 missiles the US ordered to be fired off two warships in the Mediterranean Sea, and you’re looking at a bill of around $94 million.
http://finance.nine.com.au/2017/04/07/15/09/how-much-a-tomahawk-missile-costs#LOlrOgyhxLrW6UlO.99
Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. H. L. Mencken
We get what we deserve.
Of course there were lots of red flags from Goldman Sachs banksters to ObamaCare Lite to warmongers in the cabinet…but the bombing of Syria based on a CIA/Mossad False Flag gas attack sealed the narrative about Trump. Trump is either a NeoCon or has been taken over by the NeoCons. Either way he is FINISHED. The TRUST of millions of supporters in the US and around the world is gone and cannot be recovered. The Trump Revolution is dead and Trump’s fate is sealed. There will be no major reform of the US at the ballot box because the US is not a democracy; it is an oligarchy controlled by very powerful and evil people who must be totally exposed. And the western world is now on the path to nuclear war with Russia and China. Reading comments on this and other sites such as Zerohedge, there is strong sense of betrayal, anger, heartbreak and sadness that the dream died last night in Syria…along with innocent Syrians. The Movement to Take Back America is no longer a Trump movement but a people’s movement and will grow stronger as it rethinks new strategies for restoring America as a land of freedom, peace and prosperity with a very, very limited government of, for and by the people.
And just how is that taking back supposed to happen? How do you compete with a deep state?
My sense is that the pen is much more powerful than the sword..or the lies of New York banksters or treasonous NeoCons. Truth will ultimately triumph over unspeakable evil. And the force of millions of decent and honest Americans is more than a match for the tiny, tiny minority comprising the evil Deep State. The internet and mass communications at almost no cost is a powerful tool that has already exposed the Fake News networks and NeoCons for treachery and treason. And this has happened very recently, over the past 10 or 20 years. Hey, if I can be transformed from a brainwashed useful idiots programmed 24/7 by the MSM, then there is hope for all people in the world including Americans. This revolution is gaining steam by the day and is unstoppable, and before it is over there will not be a major political party or western government standing. Trump is just part of the process…a tool to be used…who was smart enough to latch onto the movement but not smart smart enough to fully understand the foundations and depth of this movement. That is why he is having trouble governing because he is not anchored to any really strong core beliefs but he has good instincts. The attack on Syria and failure to repeal ObamaCare are just two examples. Also, he does not understand the Jewish fifth column that his daughter Ivanka has brought into the Whitehouse. What the movement to Take Back America needs to do now is organize a massive patriotic and peaceful protest – 1 million plus – in Washington DC to let Trump, Congress, government agencies, the Fake News networks and both major parties know that we will not sit back and allow the US to be destroyed by the Deep State.
And just who is the strategic beneficiary of this transparent false flag, besides the arms industries? Yup, you guessed it. Israel.
And Saudi Arabia, most of OPEC, and most banking areas as well.
yep…http://voxday.blogspot.com/2015/06/transcript-available.html
VOX: Speaking of the US, I am curious to know what the general opinion in Israel is of the American neocons who, like you said, have been trying to overthrow Assad. They have overturned the Ukrainian government, the Libyan government, the Iraqi government, etc. What is the general view of the neocons in Israel?
MVC: Oh, we love them. The Israelis are very happy to fight the Arabs and the Iranians with American blood. During the first Gulf War, Israel was then under Yitzhak Shamir and did whatever it could to encourage an American invasion of Iraq. I wouldn’t say that this was decisive but they tried. It was the same when the Americans invaded Iraq for the second time. It was the same when Americans clashed with Iran over nuclear weapons. Each time you can see this very consistently. You can see the Israeli Right and, to some extent, even the Left say okay, this is lovely, we are going to let the Americans put the chestnuts in the fire for us.
Myself, I must say, that I dislike this policy very much. But certainly most Israelis like it. They like to be on the side of the strong as I see it. They push America as much as they can into these ventures. Just today I saw a famous t-shirt that says “Don’t worry America, Israel is behind you.” I also know that some Americans, like Pat Buchanan, have been writing that these lousy Israelis have been trying to use American for their own purposes and have unfortunately they have succeeded. So, personally I am not happy about this policy. I think that it may well one day act as a boomerang.
VOX: Do you think it is bad for Israel to be dependent in that way?
MVC: Yes, because, as we say in Hebrew, “the one who’s got the money has the say.” It’s bad in several ways, it is bad in the sense that we are tilting too much in the Republican direction. That is a bad thing in my view. It’s not bipartisan. There is a danger that one day support for Israel will probably fade and people will say enough of this. They will say Israelis are exploiting us with American-Jewish help. They are exploiting us for their own purposes. Let them go and fight their own wars. I have been warned more than once by my American friends that this is one day going to happen. It hasn’t happened yet but it is going to happen one day and it worries me. Frankly, it worries me.
VOX: Yeah, you don’t want to use your allies on a war that you don’t need and then not have their support when you actually need it.
MVC: Exactly.
https://beholdisraelnews.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/netanyahu-on-us-strikes-in-syria-israel-fully-supports-president-trumps-decision/
Prime Minister Netanyahu expressed Israel’s support for the United States strikes carried out in Syria Friday, Netanyahu stating “In both word and action, President Trump sent a strong and clear message today that the use and spread of chemical weapons will not be tolerated. Israel fully supports President Trump’s decision and hopes that this message of resolve in the face of the Assad regime’s horrific actions will resonate not only in Damascus, but in Tehran, Pyongyang and elsewhere.”
Israel’s Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman echoed the prime minister stating on Friday that the strikes sent a “necessary message from the entire free world, led by the United Stated, that it will note tolerate the war crimes of Bashar Assad’s regime against innocent civilians.”
The IDF also confirmed that the Pentagon informed Israel of the strikes ahead of time. ( Prolly’ a misprint…should read Israel informed Pentagram ahead of ordered strike.)
And the House of Saud!
He’s just another rich asshole, and he bought us another three months of peace. Hillary would have started WW3 on day zero of her presidency.
WTF can we expect from an administration that is overloaded with GS Vampire Squids and the likes of Jared Kushner? I drank the Trump koolaid. “America First and no more war” sounded too good to be true. I guess it was. Trump was either sucked in by the Deep State or he was a lying sack a shit from the gitgo. Either way, everything changed last night. He sealed his fate as a one term president. I look upon my grand kids with sadness. I realize just how badly my generation has failed them, all in the name of greed and power. But I will never give up. I will continue to do what I can to prepare for whatever uncertain future we face. Who knows what the North Koreans, Putin or the Deep State will do. We must use our time wisely!
The best thing to do is look after you and your family and those you care about. Prepared for the unexpected and hard times. As our debt grows larger, no one is paying attention.
The mood here is pretty clear, so my saying wait and see might seem a bit out of place. I wonder if a strike now might be the best way to establish the no nonsense attitude that was sorely lacking from the previous administration. It really depends on the Russian response, if they escalate, we are screwed, if they were in the loop and take a diplomatic approach, this may de escalate. If it does, this will convince China to reign in or even support toppling the NK leadership.
So, we either move one way into a more stable world, or escalate into a terrible war on many fronts. Which way will it go? Throwing the crashing world economy into the mix, I’d say we’re probably screwed, but who is to say that we would not arrived at the same place regardless what was done in Syria?
Fourth Turnings NEVER de-intensify. Remember that truth.
Not Sure, I gave you an up for stepping into the fray here. I don’t think where we go from here depends on the Russians. They’re sane and won’t feel compelled to escalate. We’re the hegemon. We’re the ones who continually act irrationally. We’re the country where Rand Paul objecting to Montenegro joining NATO makes him an “agent of Putin”. Where we go from here depends on whether Trump is now committed to regime change in Syria (and Iran?). If he just threw the neocons and Deep State a bone to get them off his back (and end the “Putin’s lapdog” MSM meme), do we expect them to be satisfied with a bone? The war drums will almost certainly get louder, not quieter.
Anyone who joins the military now – or fails to object to their kid joining – is helping the neocons.
That’s an important point. Make sure no one you love joins the military. Do anything you can to stop people you know from joining. Yes AI is coming, but it can’t replace humans completely.
Sad to say I called this betrayal here at TBP ages ago and was smacked down for it at the time.
I also stated I would be gutted if my call was right and I have been at a very low ebb for some time now. I bought into the Obama bullshit, was persuaded again that we had a chance only to be kicked in the gonads….and I am not even American!
Glad to see you all waking up. I have been warning about Trump since he was elected. See my earlier posts if they were not deleted.
At the time I was red arrowed and hounded. But you were the idiots.
That wasn’t exactly how it went down, but you did in fact call it so you can crow all you like.
There were plenty of people who simply said- “let’s wait and see” and now that we have seen that there was never going to be a repeal of Obamacare, that the illegals that were here were free to stay and that the borders would more or less remain porous, that taxes were going to stay right where they were or increase, that the criminal elites wouldn’t even be arraigned for their in-your-face crimes (Anthony Weiner, anyone?) never mind punished, that our perpetual War in defense of Israeli Regional hegemony- sorry Llpoh, but you are completely blinded to this topic for the same reason you accuse others of, or as George Washington said-
“Observe good faith and justice towards all nations… nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations, and passionate attachments for others…The nation which indulges towards another a habitual hatred or a habitual fondness is in some degree a slave.”
So there you have it, all the proof we needed that nothing will ever change as long as the mindset remains fixed and that Hope, of any kind, is in fact the greatest tribulation and misery of mankind.
Sad day.
Yes…hopium – the worst of the pusherman’s wares. Mix in a little survivorship bias, & the result will usually be a lifelong lock.
But…hopium isn’t just some exogenous vector, is it? It is a feature, not a bug.
http://www.johnptacek.com/hope/the-trouble-with-hope
Everything Trump does is for Greater-Rothschild-Israhell, est. 1948, in sunny, historic, PALESTINE.
The Path to Total Dictatorship: America’s Shadow Government & Its Silent Coup
http://sgtreport.com/2017/04/the-path-to-total-dictatorship-americas-shadow-government-its-silent-coup/
Read all the comments if you want the TRUTH.
Who murders millions to gain control and subjugate?
We can pretty much abandon any references to the
constitution. It is dead.
“We have been fooled again.” John
I find it funny that the same people that cheer when the MSM, McCain, Schumer..all lose their shit over what Trump does, now claim this was one big brilliant move by Trump given that the MSM, McCain and Schumer are all cheering for the strike.
Folks say.. “oh yes, he united congress” … “he is bringing the neo-cons into the light” …or some other b.s.
I supported Trump before he was even in the primaries because the rhetoric he preached was America first, however somewhere along the way he has been taken….slowly.
First it was having to take Pence as VP….remember Reagan had a VP forced on him too.
Then it was bring Reince into his staff…
As we go along little by little we say more GS bankers take roles, get more power and of course folks waited it out to see (so many have waited)…and sure he has done a couple minor things but I think only the things the Deep State has allowed so he might maintain the image that he hasnt change.
We now see Reince is gone and Bannon is gone…in favor of that little puke Kushner and a list of neo-cons and more GS banksters to take over strategy positions.
Is it coincidence that Kushner was “given” task of Middle East affairs just about a week ago? Is it coincidence that a day or so ago Bannon was “removed” from the security team and so that right after the strike it could be proclaimed that the security council was 100% in agreement with the strike?
Folks have said that China/Russia now can see “we mean business”…but what they now see is that if they want to maintain sovereignty they have no choice but to fight.
I want to say Trump is brilliant and this is his 8Dimensional chess moves to maga, but then one has to just look at whats going on all around him and know that this isnt trure. We have seen a couple of things rolled back (EPA) and one put forward (fence) but this is nothing that cant be undone in short order. Where are the tax breaks or O’care repeal… the stuff that cant be rolled back once done?
The Deep State was outed and they no it, but now dont care. This either means they think they can maintain control of the masses or a collapse of the system is coming and they want to try to control as much as they can for after it rebuilds.
In any case this is truly horrible and nothing good can come from this admin that isnt approved.
^ +1,000,000
Digital- That is SERIOUSLY the rambling of a middle school minded lemming. NOBODY twisted Trump’s fukkin arm to load up the GS bankters in HIS cabinet, and just to remind your stoopid ass Kushner is his GD son-in-law. This is grand theater fool.
Russian PM: “US On Brink Of Military Clash With Russia”
by Tyler Durden
Apr 7, 2017 10:40 AM
In a statement on Friday morning, Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said that the US missile strike violated not only international, and added that the attack “was on the brink of military clashes with Russia.”
“Instead of their much-publicized thesis about a joint fight with a common enemy, Islamic State [IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL], the Trump administration has proven that it will fiercely fight against the legal government of Syria,” Medvedev wrote on his Facebook page.
Meanwhile, the International Committee of the Red Criss told Reuters that the situation in Syria “amounts to an international armed conflict” following U.S. missile strikes on a Syrian airbase.
“Any military operation by a state on the territory of another without the consent of the other amounts to an international armed conflict,” ICRC spokeswoman Iolanda Jaquemet told Reuters in Geneva in response to a query.
“So according to available information – the U.S. attack on Syrian military infrastructure – the situation amounts to an international armed conflict.”
Previous air strikes on Syrian territory by a U.S.-led coalition have been against only the militant group Islamic State, which is also the enemy of the Syrian government. Russia has carried out air strikes in tandem with its ally Syria since Sept. 2015, while Iranian militias are also fighting alongside the troops of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. ICRC officials were raising the U.S. attack with U.S. authorities as part of its ongoing confidential dialogue with parties to the conflict, Jaquemet said, declining to give details.
The ICRC, guardian of the Geneva Conventions setting down the rules of war, declared Syria an internal armed conflict – or civil war, in layman’s terms – in July 2012.
Under international humanitarian law, whether a conflict is internal or international, civilians must be spared and medical facilities protected. Warring parties must observe the key principles of precaution and proportionality and distinguish between combatants and civilians.
rather the hill bitch or the prick we have all been had, voted for trump with high hopes for hated hillary but both low life scum. get out of debt and save some money the day no one knows but its coming.
As far as I could tell Trump was fairly transparent in his goals from what he said during his campaign before he did anything. He spoke of “law and order” not “the rule of law” remember? The US has for a long time been known to be the world’s policeman. That’s “law and order”. The new world order. Remember the first Bush’s new world order speech?
This is just one of many reasons I gathered from what he said that I did not vote for either him or the other of popular party candidates. Like you, I too was hopeful for the best. But, not because I hoped in Trump doing the right thing. And because of that I remain hopeful:-)
Jesus is coming soon. And the time that marks His coming is a time that is worse than anything the world has ever seen. It looks to me like the world is headed in that direction by their own choosing. Just as God said they would.
Maranatha!!
Blessings:-}
I held my nose and voted for Trump because it was a vote against Hillary. It was the first time since I voted against Al Gore that I voted for the lesser of two evils. I was ready to wait for the first 100 days and then make a judgment on the man’s presidency, but this too is too far for me to keep playing that game. Same shit different day. Fuck him.
I voted for Trump because I believed that there was a very small chance that he would be able to make a significant change and a much larger chance that at least he wouldn’t be nearly as bad as Clinton. While I am disappointed that he didn’t hold out longer and do more of the things that he campaigned on he did reverse some Obama executive orders, we will (hopefully) have Gorsuch on the Supreme Court, and he is still not nearly as bad as Clinton would have been. So all in all at least a minor positive before caving in.
I’m still not sure if he was a plant by the powers that be, faking us out and then doing what he planned all along, or if he has found out that the powers that be have threats much more potent than the JFK option. ‘Cause if he was for real he was fully expecting them to threaten the JFK option and I don’t think he would have backed down so quickly on that threat.
IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Statement from Pentagon Spokesman Capt. Jeff Davis on U.S. strike in Syria
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At the direction of the president, U.S. forces conducted a cruise missile strike against a Syrian Air Force airfield today at about 8:40 p.m. EDT (4:40 a.m., April 7, in Syria). The strike targeted Shayrat Airfield in Homs governorate, and was in response to the Syrian government’s chemical weapons attack April 4 in Khan Sheikhoun, which killed or injured hundreds of innocent Syrian people, including women and children.
The strike was conducted using Tomahawk Land Attack Missiles (TLAMs) launched from the destroyers USS Porter and USS Ross in the Eastern Mediterranean Sea. A total of 59 TLAMs targeted aircraft, hardened aircraft shelters, petroleum and logistical storage, ammunition supply bunkers, air defense systems, and radars. As always, the U.S. took extraordinary measures to avoid civilian casualties and to comply with the Law of Armed Conflict. Every precaution was taken to execute this strike with minimal risk to personnel at the airfield.
The strike was a proportional response to Assad’s heinous act. Shayrat Airfield was used to store chemical weapons and Syrian air forces. The U.S. intelligence community assesses that aircraft from Shayrat conducted the chemical weapons attack on April 4. The strike was intended to deter the regime from using chemical weapons again.
Russian forces were notified in advance of the strike using the established deconfliction line. U.S. military planners took precautions to minimize risk to Russian or Syrian personnel located at the airfield.
We are assessing the results of the strike. Initial indications are that this strike has severely damaged or destroyed Syrian aircraft and support infrastructure and equipment at Shayrat Airfield, reducing the Syrian Government’s ability to deliver chemical weapons. The use of chemical weapons against innocent people will not be tolerated.
Let’s review this in a hypothetical manner. What if a group of doomer drama queens had to analyze a situation that might be more complex and/or straightforward than what they figure. What might they conclude? I know. We’re doomed! Don’t get me wrong, I ‘m not happy about this. But I try not to think I know more then I know. In the meantime, these guys kill War Pigs. Enjoy. https://youtu.be/2s_nQmwVkJA
Maybe the issue was Trump is only one against years of progressivism and legions of leftists. I think he has a good heart, but could any stand against the tsunami of the communists that have been enmeshed into the system for 8, 50 or maybe even 100’s of years, depending on your point of view when the country went to hell in a hand basket. It was nice to have a respite for a time, but now that reality has set in, time to gear up for a protracted engagement.
In this case he wasn’t trying to repell the progressivist left. He ordered the strikes.
Blessings:-}
Complete agreement from this quarter. Anything “good” he does is just an accident.
American politicians and people have lost the ability to THINK. For example;
1. How is it even possible that literally within a couple of hours of the attack … that we KNEW it was Assad?? Seriously, how is that even possible without an investigation? It’s not … yet no one in the media or government even raises the question.
2. Look at the damned pictures. It show “relief workers” handling these dead and wounded bodies …. WITHOUT GLOVES!! A normal thinking person would ask — “how in the fuck can someone touch another person’s body who was just gassed with SARIN, and not fucken wear some fucken gloves to keep from being fucken killed themselves??” But … no one in the media or government even raises the question.
3. In 2013 Assad supposedly gassed his own people. We since know that was a lie. Yet, no one suspects the lie could occur again?? That’s crazy.
4. To keep the USA!USA!USA! from bombing the living fuck outta Syria, the Syrian government (Assad) agreed to destroy all chemical weapons. This was accomplished under the auspices of both Amerika AND Russia!! Some global organization which monitors this kind of stuff verified that as of 2014 Syria has no chemical stockpiles at all. Yet … no one is asking “where the goddamned fuck did Syria get chemical weapons from, especially sarin?!
5. Lastly, not one fucking whore in the press or Washington DC has asked — “WHY da fuck would Assad do this? What benefit would it be?” The answer is NONE!!! His country was almost obliterated by the USA!USA!USA! in 2013 …. and we are to believe he would repeat the same fucking mistake again … just for the fuck of it??
Americans are stupid beyond belief.
6. And that includes me. I voted for Trump. I’m a goddamned fool. Been had, once again. Sorry America. I should have known better.
7. DTES.
8. Where are all the Trumpeteers?
Just when I thought all was lost, the prophet has returned from 40 years in exile in the armpit known as NJ.
He’s fasted for 40 days and he is hungry.
Stucky, on it’s face, I have no idea if this is true. They say they know the planes that dropped the gas took off from that airbase. It’s desert, sattelite recon, probably. Reagan flattened khadaffi’s house in response to Lockerbie. Khadaffi calmed down totally. The Israeli’s have buzzed this fucker’s house house in f-16’s a couple of times to let him know, we can kill you anytime if you keep doing stupid shit. Maybe that’s what Trump just did
Stuck , your vote was not wasted. Trump is the murder weapon that will take down the backstabbing globalist cuck infested GOP and so far he’s right on schedule. Don’t fret it .
You done good.
Where are all the Trumpeteers? We’re screen printing our mea culpa T-shirts.
Hey!! Welcome back Stucky!
I love how that is written. Trump Unleashes Military Strikes: 59 Tomahawk Missiles Hit Syria. Doesn’t say where. It was written that way intentionally as it appears that only 23 make it to target. 40% success. 6 old MIGS blown up and a runway untouched. My fuck them folks at Pentagon are stupid. Russia like have 6 already painted and flying to Syria today to replace those lost. And people next want to launch manned aircraft to bomb bases. The stupid burns. The only way that works is if the S-400’s are taken out at Tartus. If that happens and their are a bunch of dead Russians then what?
This is insane!
Betcha the Ruskies blew some of those cruise missiles out of the sky before they entered Syrian airspace. After all, we told them we were coming.
Hey Stucky! Glad your back.
Mea culpa. I am beyond disgust. I feel like I paid for a blowjob and didn’t even get a reach around after Trump sodomized us. I think I will do something useful, like get drunk tonight. It is over folks. We tried. Liquidate and buy a farm, guns, ammo and freeze-dried food.
Completely agree with Southern Sage.
Holy Shit Southern Sage you said it all nothing more needs to be said.
A Serbian archduke gets killed and a year or two later my grandpa was in a trench in France. Shit can get real real quick.
Exactly the same with my paternal granddad.
He was from Cali but had an army buddy from here in Fl so he came here after the war.
My grandpa too. He wouldn’t talk about the fighting, but he did tell us stories about crawling out of his tent and sleeping in the graveyard next to the camp because it was cooler and quieter.
My paternal GF was a German merchantman and jumped ship with three others in NOLA prior to that war as they knew it was coming. My dad made it to the top of Mt. Suribachi on Iwo Jima (bottom row far left in picture). He lasted until 4 March and then took a bullet to the head. I found him in a picture (taken 3 March) looking at camera with three marines receiving communion in foreground a couple years ago.
https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=D9A76A60DF6AE141&id=D9A76A60DF6AE141%2115989&parId=D9A76A60DF6AE141%21152&o=OneUp
Nothing makes one more antiwar more than getting a bellyful of it. He did contribute a comment to a high school alumni website that he taught at. Google Kessel Narimasu.
Fairly long article from the Wa Post-
questions and comments from many politicians,along with what they said about Obama/Syria in 2013-
http://link.washingtonpost.com/view/54836b043b35d04b658b65ac5k5sc.43xq/f949ff02
Long ago, I made a line in the sand! TPTB who control the governmental apparatus known as The United States of “America” have tiptoed along that line trying to smudge it in order to make the line indistinguishable to the untrained eye! The 90 million dollar strike on a sovereign Syrian government facility which was rumored to be the future home of another Russian airbase, crossed the line noticeably! I was hesitant to state this when we put troops on the ground and attacked Raqqa with howitzers and marines. Now, with this latest line crossing, the “deep state” has shown it is well in control still! ENOUGH is ENOUGH! The world waits to see what Americans do! What will you and I do?
Food for thought! Voting is not enough! Just look at the recent shit Trump signed so that ISPs can sell our digital fingerprints legally now?! If that doesn’t show the true rulers of the world to those of us who can see, then I don’t know what will! This Kleptocracy has kicked us in the balls! What do we do now? (I don’t have the answers, it’s an honest question!!)
“What will americans do?”
We get play the role of Germany in WWII … at the end. Only question is timing.
TRUMP IS A NEO CON….
NO SHIT!
Bannon being banished from National Security Council….along with the timing of Jared Kushner’s rise and bestowment of countless duties like “middle east peace”, solving the opioid epidemic, and U.S. and Mexican relations to name a few….Kushner’s recent travels to Iraq with Director of NSA….his new role as “supersecretary of state” shows who is really pulling the strings in the Trump administration! It isn’t the true United States citizens, but these wolves in sheep clothing who say one thing and do another! Get all of us at each others throats and funnel the remaining U.S. wealth into their globalist, luciferian cronies’ bank accounts!!!
Wake up and smell the Cruise missiles man!!!
Plato, Bea already had called into question the installation of the Trump family in government. These things only happen in a banana republic.
It’s funny that people stand by like static cartoon figures while the president does all kinds of shady things and they only react after the fact.
It’s typical, though, parents idly watch their little girl wearing next to nothing on her way to school and only react when she announces she’s pregnant.