Question of the Day, May 2

We have millions of laws on the books. It seems that the government is only concerned with laws that affect their own pocketbook. Tell me how I’m wrong?


Author: Back in PA Mike

Crotchety middle aged man with a hot younger wife dead set on saving this Country.

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Anon
Anon
May 2, 2017 2:59 pm

You are not wrong. Government is all about the employees making sure that their paycheck is higher, the perception that their ‘services’ are needed and the bottom line growing. The only difference of course being that a private company can’t break in to your house, shoot you, confiscate your cash, and incarcerate you if you choose not to utilize their ‘product’ or pay their outrageous fees.

i forget
i forget
May 2, 2017 3:03 pm

You’re not wrong. But, most of gov econ rent extraction is done to benefit those that create & wield gov. If you build rug doctor, they will come, & clean your rugs right out of existence.

CCRider
CCRider
May 2, 2017 3:03 pm

I think that’s certainly true but there’s one deeper still. Have you noticed how long bank robbers are sent up? Here in the Atlanta metro area some fool was caught robbing a local bank. They caught him in short order and retrieved all the stolen money. It was 5 or 8 grand. He got 30 years. Compare that with what robbing a store or gas station will typically get you. Much less I’d bet. Do you get the impression that the gov is sending the message “don’t fuck with our benefactors or you’ll do long time”?

i forget
i forget
  CCRider
May 2, 2017 3:04 pm

benefactors? owners.

CCRider
CCRider
  i forget
May 2, 2017 3:32 pm

ben·e·fac·tor
ˈbenəˌfaktər/Submit
noun
plural noun: benefactors
a person who gives money or other help to a person or cause.

i forget
i forget
  CCRider
May 2, 2017 3:45 pm

Owners, operating costs. Paying the help, not to mention feeding\housing the slaves, is not benefaction…great & powerful oz machines ain’t perpetual motion ones – there is overhead. Bumper sticker: it takes stolen money to make stolen money.

CCRider
CCRider
  i forget
May 2, 2017 4:05 pm

Fair enough. Controlled by banksters for sure however you slice and dice it.

Ed
Ed
  CCRider
May 3, 2017 7:58 am

Did you notice that the stacks on the table in the pic are stacks of $10k? That’s somebody’s daily business bank for buying. For the photo op, all they had to do was take off the rubber bands and put the “rolls” on the table. Each stack is in the amount that would trigger a red flag from your bank to the Feds if you withdrew it.

If you’re used to handling cash, that’s the first thing you’d probably notice about that pic. The little bags of powder are the second thing I noticed. That’s the excuse for seizing the cash, I suppose.

Of course, LE doesn’t even have to have an excuse. Their rationale is that if you have cash, that’s a crime in itself.

Mercy Otis Warren
Mercy Otis Warren
May 2, 2017 3:13 pm

As you note, there are indeed millions of laws on the books. But not only do we have a volume problem, but we have an interpretation problem too as many of these are indecipherable and/or overly broad. There is a lawyer in Massachusetts (Harvey Silverglate) who posits that each person in the US unwittingly commits several felonies each day. If this is true, one must draw the conclusion that law enforcement in the good ole USA is a discretionary (if not also an arbitrary) endeavor. This is not an optimal state of affairs.

Flashman
Flashman
May 2, 2017 3:17 pm

The late (great) paleo-conservative Sam Francis coined the term anarcho-tyranny. He once defined it this way. “We (the government) refuse to control criminals (that’s the anarchy) so we control the innocent (that’s the tyranny).”
If you’ve not read his body of works, it’s enlightening.

BL
BL
May 2, 2017 3:34 pm

It is a criminal enterprise.

Voting for their actors does nothing to help this problem, it’s time to stop playing their game. There is no benefit for us as we will continue to be robbed of our assets.

Rdawg
Rdawg
  BL
May 2, 2017 4:05 pm

Before you get twisted around the axle, let me assure you this is not an attack.

I have seen you (and others) many, many times put forth the proposition that not voting is the solution. While I can agree that the choices we get are generally horrific: liars, cheats, thieves, and sociopaths, I can’t understand how not voting helps. The reason being, I can’t envision any scenario under the sun whereby the endless mob also known as the Free Shit Army will ever *not* vote. In other words, you may convince a few of the more enlightened souls to withdraw from the process, but the people benefiting from government handouts will always pull the lever for whoever is offering the goods. It seems to me if you do vote, there is some chance – no matter how small – that a measure of good can come from it.

The game sucks, but it is the only game in town.

i forget
i forget
  Rdawg
May 2, 2017 5:02 pm

Vegas is a game town. So is wall street. Those have pockets & niches of edges for those with pockets & niches of edges. Voting has no pockets\niches edges. Voters are exactly analogous to the busses of seniors disgorging in Vegas everyday who go there to lose as entertainment & distraction. Voting is fiat scrip, monopoly money, “given” to voters – to the narrative – by the gamesmen who built the game for themselves – not for the voters.

You believe the FSA gets paid off because they vote? Did the bread & circus seatwarmers get paid off because they voted? Voting is just one of the newer items on the bread\circuses menu. It’s a junkfood menu.

The thought experiment goes: what if they threw an election\war, & nobody showed up? What would change or be different the day after the non-election? Should be rhetorical: absolutely nothing.

Voters are extras in a Cecil B. DeMille cast of thousands spectacle. That’s all. Or, all the world’s a stage & all the extras raison detre is to be upstaged. Or, speaking of “axles,” the show “Billions” has a protagonist\antogonist named Bobby Axelrod. His hedge fund is called Axe Capital. He & his us attorney opposite number are as crooked as crooked gets, & perfectly representative of the gamesmen. The voters? Casted, scripted, color of law prey. The Wright Women” a few days back…one of them, along with 5 other people, were axe murdered…axe not what your CAFO(country) can do for you, axe what you can do for your CAFO…but observation makes axing unnecessary: being axed is what you can do…even the axeman who coined that bit of Camelot got axed…Anton Chigurh says “call it” (vote) – but even that psycho flipped a fair coin.

BL
BL
  Rdawg
May 2, 2017 5:34 pm

Dawg- I am all for those who want to play to continue, it won’t change a thing but some people feel they need to participate.

Rdawg
Rdawg
  BL
May 2, 2017 8:52 pm

Didn’t really answer my question. I get that the non-voting thing is to send a message and not participate in your own fleecing.

The problem as I see it is, there are millions of deadbeats who want your stuff; they don’t give two shits about whether you vote. And they are gonna vote for the guy who promises to give ’em your stuff.

How does your philosophy address that problem?

BL
BL
  Rdawg
May 2, 2017 9:13 pm

Now Dawg- Was not the map on election day not 90% red? The Free-Shitters did not vote for El Douche…..nor the freeshit libtard cheerleaders…..right?

100 Days Later- Are the Free-Shitters still getting their freebies…housing/EBT/medicaid etc. etc.? One year later…same/same. And on and on….

If you feel better about yourself that you voted to fill in red in your county, fine. What difference did it make to validate the cabal’s puppet? The free shit is still flowing Dawg.

i forget
i forget
  BL
May 2, 2017 9:26 pm

BL nutshells it, shot shells it. But did it sell?

Philosophies that claim to address/offset/remedy things which have nothing to do with you, & that you have nothing to do with, are not philosophies. They are stories. Narratives. Mythologies. Fictions. The practical matters that my other post speaks to, what voting is, its purpose, what it accomplishes, are also secondary, at best. The inalienables are inherent, & voting doesn’t change those things, even as it rationalizes color of law (redundant) subversion\theft of those things. WTF do I care what a bunch of trespassers (“voters”) cloak in “franchise?” I don’t. The state is going to take what it’s going to take, the weather will be fair or inclement, the sky is blue or gray or black, water’s wet, etc. None of that has anything to do with me. Or you. Bard: things without all remedy should be without regard: what’s done is done. To which I’d add, what is, is. & human nature is-ness ain’t subject to stories to the contrary, even as stories to the contrary of what is is part, large part, of human nature. Catch-22 in the cuckoos nest.

Rdawg
Rdawg
  i forget
May 2, 2017 9:33 pm

Sadly, verbosity does not equal clarity or eloquence.

i forget
i forget
  Rdawg
May 2, 2017 9:43 pm

But lack of comprehension can, often does, equal dullness. Not that that’s anything to be sad about. What is, is. Acceptance is underrated. How’d Dirty Harry Callahan put it?

BL
BL
  i forget
May 2, 2017 9:38 pm

i forget- Good Gawd….we have one that can see.

BL
BL
  i forget
May 2, 2017 9:43 pm

Keep voting Dawg, it’s like humping the canister vacuum. you may get off on it but it will never be for reals.

Rdawg
Rdawg
  i forget
May 2, 2017 9:54 pm

Ah, now I’m dull. Thank God I shouldn’t be sad about it, so thanks for that reassurance.

Maybe I should try posting comments using a random word generator; it seems to engender appreciation among some of the high-minded literati here.

Rdawg
Rdawg
  BL
May 2, 2017 9:44 pm

The free shit flows, no doubt. I get your point. The entrenchment of the something-for-nothing crowd is almost impossible to overcome.

If somebody offers you a lottery ticket for free, do you take it? Sure, you know there’s long odds but if you have no ticket you have no chance at all. That kind of how I see it. And I think at the very least the Donald may buy us a little more time before whatever ultimate shitstorm that awaits us arrives.

BL
BL
  Rdawg
May 2, 2017 9:54 pm

Dawg- If you voted on the odds of a lottery ticket win that Trump would accomplish something great and noble, you are a dreamer. Theater is theater, there are no odds attached….it’s all in the script.

Rdawg
Rdawg
  Rdawg
May 2, 2017 9:58 pm

Got it. We would be in exactly the same place today if Ron Paul had won in 2012, for example. Because, script.

And just for the record, I did not vote for Trump.

Ed
Ed
  BL
May 3, 2017 7:47 am

Dawg and Bea, isn’t the point actually that the fucking votes aren’t even counted or, if they are, the counts don’t have anything to do with the outcome?

BL
BL
  Ed
May 3, 2017 8:01 am

Ed- That has always been my point. Voting is for the benefit of feewings not the outcome.

Ed
Ed
  Rdawg
May 2, 2017 9:34 pm

OK, I’ve quoted him many times, but once more: Clyde Wilson wrote that while voting isn’t necessarily evil, it’s an act of cluelessness, like chewing gum. I agree with that idea.

BL
BL
May 2, 2017 4:19 pm

Dawg- The free shit army did not vote for El Chump. Nor did the libfucks.

Tell me what you think of this? I’ve never seen this guy’s show.

http://www.decider.com/2017/05/02/stephen-colbert-donald-trump-cock-holster/

Westcoaster
Westcoaster
May 2, 2017 4:26 pm

We certainly do not see enforcement of laws that would benefit the gentry, for example Sherman anti-trust which if applied would bust up Google, Fbook, ownership of 90% of the media by just 6 companies, airlines, telco & cable, etc. In fact the teevee industry is excited by relaxation of the ownership caps of broadcast tv licenses by the FCC.
Meantime the company that owns the most Radio stations, iheart media..which owns 800 stations nationwide, is in serious financial trouble and is nearing bankruptcy. What did they do wrong? They killed, plucked, and ate the “golden goose”.

BB
BB
May 2, 2017 7:53 pm

Mad Dog ,for once we are in agreement. I vote no matter .I guess it’s because I pay taxes to feed people like you( I don’t mind feeling you it’s all the others that chap my ass) .I may not vote ever again if Trump doesn’t straighten his ass out and build that damn fence.

Boat Guy
Boat Guy
May 2, 2017 11:56 pm

The small state of Maryland has over 240 different seperate law enforcement agencies all with arrest powers from federal , state & local . With so many police you must create an increase in crime by making as many laws and as many thing possible illegal . Drugs is a good one , some big banks churn the records and accounts laundering millons for drug cartels and nothing . A few fines a couple embarressing moments but no trials no convictions . But some unwashed individual with a couple bags of weed and a small bag of money and it’s up against the wall hands on your head asshole and they do serious time . Mean while we spend $8.5 billon to eradicate opium poppy fields in Afghanistan the supplier of 80% of the worlds HERION and wow . HERION production up 20% and we are having an epidemic of overdoses in the country . There must be a connection somewhere , we need more cops sure that will work . Remember police have no obligation to protect you from anything . But go to your banking institution and pull $10,000 out of your account and let some cop see it in a gym bag and watch how free you can be with your own money . Maybe I want to give 10,000 people 1 dollar maybe I want to go on a bender with a few friends . It’s nobodies business but I bet there are a ton of boys in blue that think it is their business .
Now let’s move to homeland security and local police , now there is a place to watch money pissed up a rope ! Barney Fife with an intercontinental ballistic Winniebago crisis command center and automatic weapons . Nobody can piss money away like our government especially when it’s for the children another buzz term that signals BOHICA

Ed
Ed
  Boat Guy
May 3, 2017 7:45 am

I hate when they supply HERION.

Boat Guy
Boat Guy
  Ed
May 3, 2017 8:29 am

Our government does not supply HERION , the powers that be just continue to make it highly profitable ,that in turn creates a problem that allows them to tax and spend us into bankruptcey . That creates more criminals because of the unintended consequences of economic failures nationwide . More taxes more police more jails . Remember “WAR IS A RACKET” it applies to the state of policing in America too !

Robert Blake
Robert Blake
May 3, 2017 3:29 pm

“Did you really think we want those laws observed?” said Dr. Ferris. “We want them to be broken!
There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted and you create a nation of law-breakers -and then you cash in on their guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Reardon, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.” –
Ayn Rand, “Atlas Shrugged”