NO AMNESTY IS A GOOD AMNESTY

Guest Post by Ann Coulter
Donald Trump is being told that amnesty for “Dreamers,” or DACA recipients, will only apply to a small, narrowly defined group of totally innocent, eminently deserving illegal immigrants, who were brought to this country “through no fault of their own” as “children.” (Children who are up to 36 years old.)

Every syllable of that claim is a lie, and I can prove it.

To see how DACA will actually work, let’s look at another extremely limited amnesty that was passed in 1986.

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Farmers wanted temporary guest-worker permits for their cheap labor, so that they could continue pretending that the Industrial Revolution never happened and refuse to mechanize. (And, boy, did that work! We haven’t heard a peep about “crops rotting in the fields” since then.)

The agricultural amnesty was supposed to apply to — at most — 350,000 illegal aliens. It would be available only to illegals who were currently in the country doing the back-breaking farm work that no American would do. Without them, crops would wither on the vine. They were saving us from starvation!

Talk about deserving. Are any Dreamers saving us from starvation?

But instead of guest-worker permits, then-Rep. Charles Schumer — from the lush farmland of Brooklyn — decided to grant full amnesty to any illegals who had done farm work for at least 90 days in the previous year.

That’s pretty restrictive, isn’t it?

In the end, “up to 350,000 farm workers” turned into 1.3 million.

Oh well, what are you going to do? No use worrying — let’s just move forward and get all these people voter registration cards!

This innocent little amnesty for a small, clearly defined group of illegals quickly became amnesty for anyone who applied. The same thing will happen with any other amnesty, no matter how strictly the law is written. (And it won’t be written strictly.)

In the first few years of the agricultural amnesty, internal Immigration and Naturalization Service statistics showed that 888,637 legalization applications were fraudulent. According to immigration agents, “farm workers” stated in their interviews that cotton was purple or that they had pulled cherries from the ground.

Of the 888,637 fraudulent applications, guess how many our government approved. Answer: More than 800,000.

The agricultural amnesty was so carefully administered that not one, but TWO of the 1993 World Trade Center bombers were in this country because of it. (More on that in another column.)

The main problem with the farm worker amnesty, the DACA amnesty or any amnesty is that everyone involved in the entire immigration apparatus is feverishly working, on the taxpayer’s dime, to transform this country into a Third World hellhole. Lawyers for La Raza and lawyers for the government both believe it is their mission to humiliate and destroy white Christian America. (Actually, this country is “biracial Christian America,” plus a few Amerindians and anyone else who assimilated to Western European culture.)

There are multitudes of them, and they will never, ever stop.

Congress could pass a law granting amnesty to any 7-foot-tall, left-handed, red-headed illegal aliens from Lichtenstein — and hundreds of left-wing outfits would instantly set to work, demanding amnesty for witch doctors, cannibals, pederasts, terrorists and the rest of the multicultural universe that makes America so vibrant.

On the other side of the application process would be government immigration bureaucrats who either used to work at La Raza, or hope to in the future.

On the off chance that some particularly risible amnesty application is denied by a stodgy rules-follower in our immigration bureaucracy, that denial will be litigated before a federal judge in Hawaii, then appealed to the Ninth Circuit.

For two decades after the 1986 amnesty, the federal courts were tied up with dozens of class-action lawsuits brought on behalf of illegal aliens — regular illegal aliens, farm worker illegal aliens and still-in-Mexico illegal aliens — challenging every aspect of the law.

Is that how American tax dollars should be spent? On endless litigation, brought by America-hating activists on behalf of people who have no right to be in our country and decided by Democrat-appointed judges? (Who are also America-hating activists.)

And when their work is done, there will be a lot more Democrat-appointed judges because there will be a lot more Democrats.

Lawyers sued over everything — the absence of Creole interpreters, the requirement that illegals have proof of prior farm work and the rare denials of amnesty. Congress desperately tried passing laws that would prevent courts from hearing these cases — all to no avail. Left-wing lawyers just had to pick the right judge, and they won.

In 2005 — nearly 20 years after the 1986 amnesty — the Ninth Circuit was still granting amnesty to hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens who claimed they had been unfairly denied because they were not in the country for the first amnesty. Seriously.

No matter how the law is written, as long as anyone is eligible for amnesty, everybody’s getting amnesty.

President Trump is the last president who will ever have a chance to make the right decision on immigration. After this, it’s over. The boat will have sailed.

If he succeeds, all the p@ssy-grabbing and Russia nonsense will burn off like a morning fog. He will be the president who saved the American nation, its character, its sovereignty, its core identity. But if he fails, Donald Trump will go down in history as the man who killed America.

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Iska Waran
Iska Waran
September 13, 2017 6:38 pm

And that’s why I want my goddamn Wall.

EL Cibernetico
EL Cibernetico
  Iska Waran
September 14, 2017 1:31 am

Iska, no moron would use Ann Coulter’s bullshit column as supporting evidence for a wall. Her column is filled, littered with knee-jerk code words, trigger phrases, if you will.
La Raza
Pussy-grabbing
World Trade Center bombers
on the taxpayer’s dime
Third World hellhole
America-hating activists
still-in-Mexico illegal aliens

This bitch thinks anybody living abroad is an illegal alien. Excuse me?

Ann seriously needs to get good and fucked but since nobody will touch her bony paper-white ass, her security guard has to do it while he’s on the clock. Fuck that shit.

Her column is so full of holes you could wrap cheese with it. Yet, because of her expert use of trigger words, morans skip the analysis and start going yeah, that’s right, uh-huh.

Do I have to repeat my definition of Chicksplaining? Just watch I Love Lucy, she is the premier example of chicksplaining; muddling the truth with transparent lies.

gxg
gxg
  EL Cibernetico
September 14, 2017 3:55 am

You have to go back.

MMinLamesa
MMinLamesa
  EL Cibernetico
September 14, 2017 5:16 am

Fling some more shit(Her column is so full of holes…), you sound like a typical REgressive. I read it. It makes sense and she makes good points.

Stucky
Stucky
  EL Cibernetico
September 14, 2017 6:47 am

“Her column is filled, littered with knee-jerk code words, trigger phrases, ….”

You mean phrases like this? — “bony paper-white ass”

lmorris
lmorris
  EL Cibernetico
September 14, 2017 7:55 am

you are so full of shit, cry baby. fuck wet backs and there kids and all big business that pay under the table. you should be happy that this country is going down the sewer the smell should make you smile and happy.

javelin
javelin
  lmorris
September 14, 2017 8:15 am

lm–finish the sentence, “the smell should make you smile and happy.”–and filled with fond memories of your homeland.”

Stucky
Stucky
  javelin
September 14, 2017 8:32 am

Oh, come on Javelin! What the fuck is wrong with you people lately?

Yeah, I know, I’m a fucken hypocrite because I fling shit with the best of them.

But the ‘wetback’ shit being flung at a long time contributor is too personal and insulting. Why? Because you don’t like his opinion? How would that be different than the Antifa mindset?

His “homeland”??? That’s the kind of pure bullshit I’m talking about. For your information, El is an AMERICAN.

Stucky
Stucky
  lmorris
September 14, 2017 8:17 am

lmorris

Maybe your post would make sense if you learned grammar, spelling, and punctuation. Then again, maybe not.

Boat Guy
Boat Guy
September 13, 2017 7:09 pm

It’s sadly to late as we rot from within 11 to 20 MILLON illegals wandering freely without fear of deportation in such a small number of cases . It’s more likely an illegal will hit the lottery or be struck by lightening before they are rounded up and deported . As for American citizens defending illegals twisted logic that they have some right to stay , please surrender your citizenship and see what country welcomes you in but leave everything you earned in this country you despise so much . I would not want your American wealth or possessions to soil your new nation of choice !
If you are hear illegally regardless of your reason you can appeal your deportation at the American embassy in your homeland . Have a safe trip !

BB
BB
September 13, 2017 8:10 pm

This is our last chance.If Trump fails to build the wall and stop this damn amnesty all is lost.Third world shit hole here we come or another Civil War.I wonder how many Americans would still fight for our Republic.

unit472
unit472
September 13, 2017 8:58 pm

There is a way to limit ‘Amnesty’ and that is to make it expensive to apply. We need to use the same tactics against immigrants as they use to gain amnesty. Make the process complicated so applicants have to retain an attorney and charge $5,000 or so per application. Yeah some will jump through the hoops but your average Juan Mower or Honduran dishwashero just won’t be able to come up with cash to get legal status.

Stucky
Stucky
September 13, 2017 9:01 pm

“Congress could pass a law granting amnesty to any 7-foot-tall, left-handed, red-headed illegal aliens from Lichtenstein” ——– article

Lichtenstein? Damn! I was this close!!

Llpoh, if you are reading this, I’m starting to understand your anti-DACA stance.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
  Stucky
September 13, 2017 10:56 pm

Lichtenstein is a really nice country. So nice that it is almost impossible to emigrate there.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Zarathustra
September 14, 2017 3:19 am

Yes, and I like my country. I think anyone here illegally, whether they were children when they came or not, should go back to their home countries. You want to come in, do it legally. The great thing about this country is supposed to be the rule of law applied to everyone, equally, even if you’re a kid. You’re parents screwed you, not us, because they broke the law. And now you see the results.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Vixen Vic
September 14, 2017 4:08 am

Go to bed, EC.

You’re up late. Even for someone in the Left Coast Time Zone.

BL
BL
  Zarathustra
September 14, 2017 8:28 am

I knew a guy from Lichtenstein about 50 years ago, dry as toast.

unit472
unit472
September 13, 2017 9:05 pm

Trump is also on to something with his ‘deport criminals’ policy. Rare is the illegal who does not get arrested ( multiple times) for driving without a valid license, DUI, domestic violence, drugs etc.

Make any criminal conviction a disqualifying offense and you make ineligible the majority of all illegal aliens.

Anonymous
Anonymous
September 13, 2017 9:29 pm

The “easy” way to do this is to declare a specific time period for anyone in this country illegally to apply for citizenship. They must demonstrate the ability to speak a certain level of English, have a job, pay taxes and have no criminal record (parking tickets okay, DUI not). Give them time to apply, require they pay a “processing fee” (which can be sponsored from an American citizen) and they must pass the standard US Citizenship test.

At the end of the time period, that’s it. If you’re still here illegally, you can be rounded up and deported, regardless of circumstance. Yeah, it’s a form of amnesty, but it would solve a lot of the complexity of the problem and would win huge support for Trump.

EL Cibernetico
EL Cibernetico
  Anonymous
September 14, 2017 1:13 am

That’s what I’ve been saying all along, dude. As long as you allow a dual economy where one group pays taxes and the other doesn’t, you will see more employers favoring the ones that don’t cost them social security taxes and health insurance.

As for paying a processing fee, what do you think the set fees for filing a form is called? $300+ to submit the application to apply. $1000 – $1500 for a couple of subsequent forms; biometrics and physical exam costs at the consulate; airfare, hotel or higher costs incurred due to an extended stay abroad while awaiting approval… In the end, I came up with a tally of $12,000 for a case which included estimated lawyer fees.

So, given the fact employers discriminate against legal workers, the pain of having to pay income taxes and the prohibitive costs of legalization, let’s see, I’ll take door number 3.

But disregard my levity, this is a serious matter. If half the estimated millions of illegals suddenly got the urge to legalize due to external pressure like you suggest, the immigration courts would be jammed for years.

I got the impression lawyers are like doctors, they want to treat sick people first. What I mean is that I went with my son in law to see an immigration lawyer. At the end of the interview he recommended we do nothing. I was surprised. I said, so he stays illegal? He said, you came for a lawyer’s advice, that’s what I gave you. I gathered, over time, that he means it is safer to stay illegal as long as he can avoid getting arrested and don’t take unnecessary chances by trying to go through the system. Think about it, you live cleanly, you don’t get arrested more than once in your life, maybe never. That has been the safe way for many illegals; they say they go to work and head straight home after that.

gxg
gxg
  EL Cibernetico
September 14, 2017 3:59 am

Your son in law has to go back, too.

Stucky
Stucky
  EL Cibernetico
September 14, 2017 7:00 am

You’re fighting a losing battle, El.

The people here want a wall. No more illegals. It’s what got Trump elected, in large part. It’s one of the 3 reasons I voted for him (the other two being Supreme Court appointments, and no more endless wars).

Sometimes it seems you take this topic very personally …. as if you are being targeted for deportation. But people are talking about illegals. Then again maybe you have family members or friends affected by this? I don’t think anyone knows your motivation framing your views.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stucky
September 14, 2017 10:14 am

Stuck, chicken-scratch coward here, I thought this was a place where you shared personal info when it added to the collective knowledge. I talk about my personal experiences with that purpose in mind. I’m not taking it personal.

I don’t even get worked up over Rdawg riding my butt over some supposed grievance of his.

gxg sounds like YoBo, who wants me to go back to Texas for some reason. As for my son in law – he’s more of a step-son-in-law – he would be a ‘dreamer’, brought here under the age of ten. He has no family that he knows of in Salvador.

Anywhoo, I’m not going to sweat the wetback baloney, it only means the person doesn’t have any game as far as writing ability or even thinking ability. I could come up with better accusations without breaking a sweat.

I do appreciate your moral support, your a great guy to know. Did you like my “hide in plain sight” comment to Dan 3? BTW, I was counting on those 200 TBP cryptocoins yesterday to make a down payment on a used car. I hope to win again in a future thread.

Stucky
Stucky
  Anonymous
September 14, 2017 10:36 am

OK, El. I don’t like it when my pals here get slammed with deeply personal insults. You are a far better man than I for not letting it not bother you. I could learn from you.

Your personal experiences add a LOT …. keep on keeping on.

Nope, I did not know that was you hiding in plain sight. Lol I’m a little slow sometimes.

Doesn’t matter. Looks like Dan III won’t come to Plainfield for his ass whooping. I’ll leave you my lovely Buick in my will when I croak! ?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  EL Cibernetico
September 14, 2017 9:22 am

El Cib: yes, I’m well aware of the costs; I’ve had friends who have done this the legal way and lost their homes in the process due to the time and cost involved.

I didn’t get into details here, but yes, I was thinking the process would need to be streamlined. We could put a LOT of Millennials with law degrees to work to quickly process these applications, and others could be trained for all the background searches. Let everyone have some skin in the game.

You are completely correct that employers will favor the cheaper employee in most cases — especially if they work harder than the average American, which they do. These immigrants are like the Irish / Chinese and Europeans who came here in previous immigration waves… the next step forward for our economy. Let’s encourage the good ones by separating the wheat from the chaff. Then throw the chaff the hell out.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
September 14, 2017 9:05 am

Apply for residence would be better than apply for citizenship.

Let them prove worthy of American citizenship for a decade or so before they can apply for it.

And renouncement of any and all foreign citizenship should be a requirement for allowing American citizenship when/if they do. People shouldn’t be allowed to be citizens unless they want to become real Americans loyal only to America.

In any event, immigration and citizenship are under the venue of Congress, Trump has done right to get rid of the unconstitutional DACA XO and put it right back on Congress where it belongs.

Let every member of Congress show who and what they stand for and who and what they represent as they deal with it.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
September 14, 2017 9:26 am

Yes! That’s the thing I admire most about Trump on this matter. He was right to showcase how Obama’s actions were illegal and to throw the ball back in Congress’ court. Trump understands that he needs to jump-start Congress in order to accomplish his goals, and he wants to govern the “right” (legal) way. His deal with the Dems last night is an indication that he’ll get want he wants regardless of who he has to work with. It’s a refreshing change. The 4T is going to move quickly now.

Anonymous
Anonymous
September 13, 2017 10:18 pm

Thoughts for fellow Latin American- Hispanic Immigrants.

You left your maternal home, family, culture, language,
friends, jobs, and customs to come to an alien place, devoid of what you were
born and accustomed to. You did this, for a myriad of reasons.
None of these reasons included a desire to be worse off.
You made the tortuous decision to get away, from, among
many things, rigid social, economic and political mores and structures that provided no foreseeable opportunity to enhance your prospects or more importantly, those of your family.
The main reason you left was a social, legal and economic
hierarchy, that through laws, taxes, intimidation and if necessary, brute
force, lead most often by a narcissistic all powerful leader or group , better
known as the “champion of the people””
He or she or they promise to help the “poor” by taking away from
the” rich”; divide the country into competing factions and take the spoils for themselves and their cronies.
With the exception of a group that has been labeled as, “Native Americans” who have in fact been given unique governmental consideration, care and even constitutional exemption, we here are all immigrants or descendants of immigrants.
That is why you came. You identified with us, or “we the people”, not some “disadvantaged” group that needed unearned help to succeed.
The people offering you things for” free” with no effort on your part, are the same ones that helped create the system you fled.
I beg you; do not assist in the creation of a system like the one you fled.
For proof, just visit our very own “Indian Reservations”
under the complete care of the Government.

Ponyexpress
Ponyexpress
September 13, 2017 10:20 pm

• Thoughts for fellow Latin American- Hispanic Immigrants.
You left your maternal home, family, culture, language,
friends, jobs, and customs to come to an alien place, devoid of what you were
born and accustomed to. You did this, for a myriad of reasons.
None of these reasons included a desire to be worse off.
You made the tortuous decision to get away, from, among
many things, rigid social, economic and political mores and structures that provided no foreseeable opportunity to enhance your prospects or more importantly, those of your family.
The main reason you left was a social, legal and economic
hierarchy, that through laws, taxes, intimidation and if necessary, brute
force, lead most often by a narcissistic all powerful leader or group , better
known as the “champion of the people””
He or she or they promise to help the “poor” by taking away from
the” rich”; divide the country into competing factions and take the spoils for themselves and their cronies.
With the exception of a group that has been labeled as, “Native Americans” who have in fact been given unique governmental consideration, care and even constitutional exemption, we here are all immigrants or descendants of immigrants.
That is why you came. You identified with us, or “we the people”, not some “disadvantaged” group that needed unearned help to succeed.
The people offering you things for” free” with no effort on your part, are the same ones that helped create the system you fled.
I beg you; do not assist in the creation of a system like the one you fled.
For proof, just visit our very own “Indian Reservations”
under the complete care of the Government.

Vodka
Vodka
September 14, 2017 12:34 am

Fuck the “Wall”. It won’t work. They could easily change tactics to avoid it. Just look at a map to see the astonishing number of miles of coastline in Florida, Texas and California. If we exponentially increased the Coast Guard, ICE, and all other relevant agencies, we still couldn’t cover most of it.

Trump might save his presidency with a crackdown on employers of illegals, but I doubt he has the balls.

What’s really needed is a bounty. There is absolutely no reason for the Deplorables to show up to vote again if one-third of Mexico’s citizens still live here in 2020.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
  Vodka
September 14, 2017 12:40 am

That’s why I’m partial to my automated, robotic Gatling Gun solution. Give TBP’s own Billy the contract for servicing and maintaining the “Copper Clad, Lead Wall” and the border will become a ghost town.

Vodka
Vodka
  IndenturedServant
September 14, 2017 2:03 am

A mercenary force providing a copper-clad lead wall on dry land, combined with a Cajun Navy outfitted with tripod mounted .50 cals to patrol the coast would likely exceed anything our government has managed to “protect” us with.

A Beaner Bounty would put a quick end to the whole problem. And contractors are always less expensive. Lots of unemployed folks out there. Just thinking out loud.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
  Vodka
September 14, 2017 2:21 am

See, this is what I’m talking about. Reasonable people spit balling ideas for unreasonable problems. Maybe we can get some Hollywood leftists to try and shield the illegals from the Copper Clad Lead Wall?

Vodka
Vodka
  IndenturedServant
September 14, 2017 2:47 am

?

MMinLamesa
MMinLamesa
  Vodka
September 14, 2017 5:19 am

Not too many illegals are coming via boat. They’re walking across our open, southern border. A wall will stop that. Seems pretty simple to me.

lmorris
lmorris
September 14, 2017 8:02 am

a wall and guns and make the wet back caught build the wall

Iconoclast421
Iconoclast421
September 14, 2017 3:23 pm

It doesnt matter how many voted for Trump because of his stance on illegal immigration. When he leaves office, there will be more illegals in the country than there were when he came in. And at some point I guarantee he grants more amnesty. Our country is run by demons, not people we vote for. That is a lesson that is apparently very hard to learn.