I’m sure Hardscrabble Farmer will have an opinion about us going “back” to the moon. I wonder if Ridley Scott is busy.
Trump signed a directive that formally orders NASA to send humans back to the moon. The object of the lunar mission will then be to build a foundation needed to send humans onto Mars. Buzz Aldrin, the second man to walk on the moon, attended the event, as did Apollo astronaut and former senator Jack Schmitt.
“Exactly 45 years ago, almost to the minute, Jack became one of the last Americans to land on the moon. Today we pledge that he will not be the last, and I suspect we’ll be finding other places to land in addition to the moon,” Trump said.
According to the White House, the plan will creative incentives for private industry participation, as well as work with other nations.
We’re fucking broke! The only good thing is that it won’t be done.
Dollars would be better on reducing the national debt.
Dollars can be printed to near-infinite sums, and likely will.
Just going by the official narrative, man went from lighter-than-air flight, to powered flight, to jet flight, to rocket flight, to the moon in 66 years, with an eye on off-planet colonization.
Then niggers.
http://stuffblackpeopledontlike.blogspot.com/2014/04/time-and-newsweek-noticed-scarce-amount.html?m=1
Under Doctor’s orders to avoid anymoar shit fests with the good Farmer. Will say it is a waste of munny when we did not go there in the first place..
Still if we could Send Hill and Bill on a one way trip I think folks here could part with a few sheckels to make it happen…
There’s I done sez it.
Lord alightly
don’t smite me.
That is as long as the smart folks can figure out a way to blast thru the firmament that has been holding all of us back for soooo long…
Yours Truly in Odin,
RiNS
It shouldn’t be that expensive if they just use the same shit they did last time (with updated electronics, of course). Oh wait…they threw out all the Saturn 5 drawings, LOL
There’s a couple Sat 5’s sitting in Houston and in Florida. Ready to go. Good thing we’ve dome this before. It took 8 years last time … LOL.
Actually, they didn’t…
https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/20302/were-the-saturn-v-construction-plans-destroyed
A better question is, should someone decide to build another one, how much work would go into digitizing and freshening up the drawings to reflect modern materials and techniques. As someone who as part of his profession often deals with ancient paper plans, I can assure you, that would be a daunting task. One made all the more difficult by the fact that the personal and institutional knowledge to use and interpret those plans is almost all gone.
Thanks! I have a better understanding after reading some comments at the link. While I have little doubt that a more modern version of the Sat 5 could be constructed, there is another problem being that the launch facilities no longer exist. Of course they could be always be re-constructed but that’s not going to happen for a one-off mission. NASA (or eqivalent) would have to be able to commit to dozens of launches as were performed in the 60’s and 70’s. Is a rocket still even the cheapest way to boost heavy objects into space? Maybe since that’s what the Russians have always used…unless we went nuclear but that’s not possible for political reasons.
Back to the moon?
Let’s stop pretending man has ever been there.
You mean Allan Bean wasn’t there touting his paintings with “actual moon dust” for the conservative sum of $433,777? And to think my $10 investment in BitCoin is gonna buy this beauty…!!!!!
There are but a handful of original paintings available in Alan Bean’s Private Collection. Submit the form below for further information.
The Spirit of Apollo
Completed 2010, textured
acrylic with moondust
on aircraft plywood
41 1/4″ x 50″
$433,700
When I resigned from NASA in June 1981, I planned to create a painting that I thought would symbolize the spirit of Apollo: How we felt after laboring together to find a way to travel 240,000 miles to the moon, walk on it, and return safely to earth. I wanted the painting to show what it meant to all of us… more
NASA – Why can’t the Apollo lunar landers be seen on the Moon
They can now.
They can now??? Please elaborate….because they cannot be seen from Earth (not that I believe that anything other than possibly unmanned landings happened). Just asking.
My fuck yer dum!
For FUCK SAKES libertard, did you even watch the video! The guy explained it well enough that even a dullard fucktard like you could understand. Did your Mom beat you on the head as a child? Did she? It must be hard to do but take 15 minutes and try by watching the video. It all boils down to focus and resolution something sadly that yer brain obviously lacks..
I’ll refrain from profanity. I watched the video, I understand the concepts of resolution and focus, and there is NOTHING in the video that says that we can now see them from earth (which was my – though not clear enough for you – implication). It only implies that NASA now has a way of supposedly “seeing” them from low lunar obit. Which of course means that once again we must trust the lying US government and the supposedly unaltered images that they provide for us to see. So in other words, for those of us on earth, looking skyward through any earthbound telescope, they cannot be seen. And if we can’t see them directly with our own eyes, but must rely on the very folks who have a significant vested interest in perpetuating a lie, then they might as well not be there.
You can see it. You’ll refrain from profanity. How bout you blow me!
There is a low orbit satellite mapping the moon since 2009. The video showed you the fucken images. But you ain’t gonna believe it because…drumroll…
Reasons!
Riddle me this smartie pants, why would the Russians and Chinese keep this conspiracy a secret?
Is that a PALM LEAF?
WTF?
I met him in about 1997 or so. Our company brought him in on a project release that was code named Apollo. He gave everyone prints.
Do you still have your print? Anyway, is it a palm leaf?
Relax. It doesn’t matter whether we go back to the moon or not. What’s important is to put a serious project in front of NASA and say, get this done. NASA is the world’s largest collection of female and minority rocket scientists on the planet. They’ve lost their core competency, rockets. Making them do something is how you separate the wheat from the chaff. Watch
Fuck space for now !!!!!!I want my damn wall across the southern border.I want a ban on all Immigration Especially Muslim immigration.
^this X 1,000,000
Apparently Donald saw an orange moon and then his mind was made up.
In a related past, Jackie threatens Alice
Never have I ever heard a bigger load of bullshit in my life except for I did not have sexual relations with that woman … Regardless wether we as a nation indebted our selves to really get to the moon or not is a non issue . The fact that anyone proposing another space race better do it by passing the hat or a NASA / JPL combined bake sale . Our nation is bankrupt and another bull shit space race mission is not going to excite me like it did when I was 12 .
Yes I know we benefit from technological advancements but we pay for them too so tell me why I should be all red white and blue in the face over this fools errand !
Perhaps it’s the same thing OZ said never mind that man behind the curtain !
If we plan on continual domination of this planet, it would seem the bare minimum.
NASA has a budget of about $20 billion per year or 1/2 of 1% of Federal spending. For this we get weather satellites, space telescopes, robotic missions to other planets and there moons. The Voyager probes have even gone beyond our solar system and are still operating. A pretty good investment from the 1977 budget I’d say.
Keppler has found new earth like planets around neighboring stars and no telling what the James Webb space telescope will find when it is launched in a couple of years. Bigger and much more advanced than the Hubbell it will be able to detect and analyze the atmospheres of these planets and see to the edge of time.
NASA is developing a large rocket for manned deep space missions and, as a note aside, it does incorporate the same design as the old Saturn 5 motors. Manned space flight beyond low earth orbit is expensive though. How feasible it will actually be to go beyond the moon is uncertain. NASA and Elon Musk want to go for Mars but I might be satisfied for a robotic mission to bring back to earth ( or the ISS ) some soil samples to see if there is a reason to send men there. If evidence is found that life exists or did exist there then a manned mission will have to be undertaken.
I volunteer Paul Ryan for a manned mission… to the sun.
Are you a NASA marketing brochure?
cause I was 12 when I realized a moon landing wasnt possible… then I got advanced mathematics degrees and welding and fabrication experience…now I KNOW we never went to the moon.
In what ways do your advanced mathematics degrees and welding and fabrication experience give you the certainty of knowledge that we never went to the moon?
Yeah, I wanna know that as well. I don’t see the big deal about going to the moon. Planetary physics just aren’t that complicated. Kepler had it figured out centuries ago.
The weakest part of space exploration are the people and systems to keep them alive . We are failing financially morally and socially as a nation so let’s go into space . That’s just foolish , no negative comments have been about satellite systems or telescopes for further research and weather watch or communication . Just the immense expense to undertake a manned mission is ridiculous at least for the next several decades ! That is of course if our nation survives the mess we are in now here on earth !
Lets do it!!
If we could find it in ourselves to park (stick’em in the gun cabinet until needed) some of our Carrier Battle Groups, we could probably do it.
But, we really are broke, and on the same road that all past empires went down. Why can’t more people see that?
This is the only spacecraft I want hear about. I want a spacecraft powered by atomic bombs. Atoms for peace, bitches!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_(nuclear_propulsion)
What SF can imagine …
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_Shall_Rise
I think this is what is commonly referred to as a ‘shit test’.
Trump is saying: “Shit or get off the pot.”
If they never went, this will come out in the wash, because it will be impossible to fudge now.
Another brilliant Trump 42D chess troll.
oh yeah, another Trump 4d chess troll. Qasem Soleimani laughs at that fucker, as do I.
I have a bit of history with NASA via my uncle as I’ve stated on here before. As I’ve said NASA had a bunch of places that you could fake the moon landing etc.
Kinda funny they lost the telemetry data for the Apollo 11 landing. Arguably one of man’s greatest feats and we erased it !
There are other video’s from folks at NASA etc that state we’ve lost the technology to go back….say what ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q1l-jf3KqA
We destroyed the technology to go to the moon…say what ?
He’s trolling NASA.
(we never went to the Moon)
You will like this one about String Theory.
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Superstrings, conceptual computer artwork. PASIEKA / Getty Images
by Andrew Zimmerman Jones Updated July 10, 2017
String theory is a mathematical theory that tries to explain certain phenomena which is not currently explainable under the standard model of quantum physics.
The Basics of String Theory
At its core, string theory uses a model of one-dimensional strings in place of the particles of quantum physics. These strings, the size of the Planck length (i.e. 10-35 m) vibrate at specific resonant frequencies. (Note: Some recent versions of string theory have predicted that the strings could have a longer length, up to nearly a millimeter in size, which would mean they’re in the realm that experiments could detect them.) The formulas that result from string theory predict more than four dimensions (10 or 11 in the most common variants, though on version requires 26 dimensions), but the extra dimensions are “curled up” within the Planck length.
In addition to the strings, string theory contains another type of fundamental object called a brane, which can have many more dimensions. In some “braneworld scenarios,” our universe is actually “stuck” inside of a 3-dimensional brane (called a 3-brane).
String theory was initially developed in the 1970s in an attempt to explain some inconsistencies with the energy behavior of hadrons and other fundamental particles of physics.
Maggie here… now, with that introduction, HERE’S BRIAN.
At present, string theory has not successfully made any prediction which is not also explained through an alternative theory. It is neither specifically proven nor falsified, though it has mathematical features which give it great appeal to many physicists.
https://www.thoughtco.com/what-is-string-theory-2699363
Surprised no comment. I love Brian.
Okay, first thing, at least NASA is being tasked with something it was created for; not in setting up education centers to advance the knowledge of how important Muslim contributions were to science. If nothing else, we are taking a step back into reality. Boom!
Next, if there is an attempt, it will be done by a businessman, who will incentive the process for showing somehow how to turn space travel into a profit (hint: mining an asteroid).
Lastly, if there are limitations in man surviving beyond the 150 or 200 mile barrier due to the Van Allen radiation belts, it will be obvious, or with the independent news it will be exposed. So quit yer bitchin’; we don’t have any money ?; is this a stumbling block or an opportunity?
Presidential ‘directives’, vis a vis NASA, mean nothing. It took 5.5% of the Federal budget to send men to the moon. It would be hard to imagine such an expenditure again.
Plus, NASA lost the blueprints for the Saturn V rocket. No shit.
What are they going to do, raise Stanely Kubrick from the dead?
I’m sure the Saturn V rocket was the peak of 1960s rocket science, made with the very best materials, machining and methods available.
A modern version using modern materials, machining and methods might be even better.
At the very least, we’ve learned not to use O-rings in the booster seals.
https://www.space.com/18084-space-shuttle-challenger.html
Everyone thinks this will be so difficult and expensive. How much is it really going to cost to rent some studio space and a visual effects team. Put some actors in space suits and let the VFX (visual efforts) guys do their magic. It will look a whole lot more realistic then the first time.
The biggest problem is we don’t have a rocket big enough to launch, I mean, fake launch, anything like this. We now let Russia launch our astronauts to the Int’l Space Station. Maybe we can get Putin to help us with this ruse.
Talk about fake news. This would be the ultimate fake news.