No Exceptions

Guest Post by Eric Peters

There’s a kerfuffle in Wisconsin over threatened application of The Law to the Amish.

Up to now, they’ve successfully dodged Uncle – been exempted on religious grounds from a great many busybody-isms, including laws requiring the presence and use of seat belts and child safety seats in all motor vehicles.

Their horse-drawn buggies lack motors, of course – as well as seatbelts and child seats.

They don’t have air bags or back-up cameras or tire pressure monitors, either. The Amish don’t believe such things are necessary and therefore do without.

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They also believe it’s their decision, their business – and just want to go about their business, leave others alone and be left alone in turn. After all, they’re not harming anyone else. And if they harm themselves, the Amish take care of themselves.

It seems reasonable enough.

That doesn’t wash for the rest of us, though.

Why should it work for the Amish?

Portrait of an armed busybody . . .

Such is the entirely logical argument of a busybody with a gun – i.e., a government worker – by the name of Bill Winch. He is a member of the Wisconsin Rapids Board of Supervisors and doesn’t think the Amish ought to be exempted from anything – including other laws requiring driver’s licenses and mandatory insurance.

He has proposed a new law precisely to that effect.

Amen.

Winch goes further. The buggies of the Amish should also be fitted with automotive safety glass, windshield and side glass – no matter what it costs the Amish and how impractical it is to install such things in a horse-drawn buggy.

For their saaaaaaaaaaaaafety, of course.

Their horse-drawn buggies should also be required to have headlights and turn signals – just like everyone else’s car. If this requires expense, so be it. And new buggies manufactured after a certain date surely ought to be required to have at least driver and front seat passenger air bags and comply with some sort of government crash test regime.

Bully.

It might cause some eyes to open.

Logically – as a matter of principle – either all of us and not just the Amish should be left in peace to go about our business or no one should be left in peace.

Why should the claim of the Amish that seatbelts and insurance and all the rest are meddling twaddle contrary to their beliefs carry any more weight than the belief – just as ardent and probably better-articulated – of the Libertarian who also believes that it’s no one else’s proper business whether he has or wears a seatbelt?

Winch is absolutely correct.

Or at least, he is a consistent authoritarian control freak.

The arguments used to justify everything imposed on the non-Amish apply just as much to the Amish. If these justifications are morally valid then the laws based upon them should brook no exceptions. 

The Amish, no matter how pious, are not immune to the forces of nature. If an Amish buggy driver wrecks his buggy, he might be injured – just like anyone else. And if he is not buckled up – if his buggy lacks shatterproof automotive safety glass – his injuries could be more severe than would otherwise have been the case.

Undeniable facts of physics.

So why should the Amish – but not the rest of us – get a pass?

Why should they get to live a simple, unencumbered, exempted life? One free of not just government busybodyism but also the financial pressure of having to constantly earn money in order to pay for all that busybodyism? The Amish man can farm his land, raise his crops and not have to worry about coming up with thousands of dollars every year to pay for mandatory this and tax that – including Social Security and Obamacare taxes. Or air bags and seat belts and back-up cameras and shatterproof safety glass. He has no dealings with the DMV.  

This makes him a very free man.

Which is very unfair to the rest of us.

An outrage!

So perhaps this new law applying the law to the Amish is just the medicine needed.

Sympathy for the Amish might transfer to the rest of us. It might occur to some that it is unjust – tyrannical – to molest people who just want to be left alone and who aren’t causing harm to anyone else. It might get people to thinking about whether the justifications elaborated to push, promote and impose all the aforesaid busybody-ism are in fact legitimate.

And if they’re not . . .

The Amish are, indeed, throwbacks.

And not just because of their buggies and beards. They are living fossils of a species almost extinct: The Free Man. They’re not interested in your goods and don’t want to control your life. If you’re interested in their lifestyle, you’re free to emulate it and even to become Amish, if that is your desire.

In return, the Amish only ask that you leave them free to be Amish.

But that is too much to ask for people like Bill Winch.

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Hollywood Rob
Hollywood Rob
December 21, 2017 8:45 am

Old man winch had better watch out. You don’t go up against those Amish terrorists without a lot of heavy artillery to back you up.

Anonymous
Anonymous
December 21, 2017 8:56 am

He really only wants the revenue so they can pay bureaucracy that it will take to manage this b/s…..

Mossberg
Mossberg
December 21, 2017 9:05 am

How do I become amish enough to get amish exemptions? Shit, I already got the hat and beard.

TJF
TJF
December 21, 2017 9:12 am

I’ve dreamt of becoming Amish-ish. I love the idea of being left alone by the outside world and having to just deal with a small local community. I don’t like the beards and costumes and I don’t really want their religion.

Persnickety
Persnickety
December 21, 2017 10:01 am

Option 1: Winch is actually against all regulation, and terrorizing the Amish is how he makes his point.

Option 2: Winch has his eyes on some nice farmland that the Amish are sitting on, and wants to drive them out.

Option 3: Just an a-hole.

Snoke Jensen
Snoke Jensen
  Persnickety
December 21, 2017 10:04 am

Persnickety and I are drinking from the same coffee pot on this one.

Snoke Jensen
Snoke Jensen
December 21, 2017 10:01 am

“If the ordinance is passed, the Amish will leave Wood County, said Mark Louden, a professor at the University of Wisconsin-Madison who specializes in Amish and Pennsylvania Dutch language and culture.”

Could be that the cocksuckers are after the land. Wouldn’t surprise me any. In any event, people like Bill Winch should be hoisted up the tallest tree with the shortest rope.

Mad as hell
Mad as hell
  Snoke Jensen
December 21, 2017 10:31 am

This is the overarching problem, and BTW how we got, ever so slowly from the original intent of America – how the Amish live, as free men. To today’s controlled and revenue-collected-at -gun-point society. We did NOT string these assholes up long ago, they then went on to become “bureaucrats” and “bankers”.
Unfortunately, I think that Eric is correct, they are a living fossil of an extinct species. I am still optomistic that one day, the “Amish free man” will again awake in enough of society to turn this worm, until then – fuck them, and fuck the Bill Winch’s of the world.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
December 21, 2017 10:08 am

In spite of their seemingly simple life, they are no dummies. They have their own system of healthcare. If you find a doctor that treats the Amish, you have most likely found a very good doctor. They pay cash and they take care of each others bills, if needed. My naturopath is Mennonite, I think. Many of his patients are Amish and travel from far away for treatment.

I don’t know how well this system is working, this article is from 2015
http://kbia.org/post/amish-and-mennonite-patients-push-experiment-health-care-price-transparency#stream/0

If Wisconsin passes a law like this, they will probably move to a state that has more freedom.

The reason why their communities work so well, though, is because of their tight control over the people. Might be hard to do, if you didn’t want to be Amish.

Anonymous
Anonymous
December 21, 2017 10:32 am

I’ve seen horseback riders on the roads before, no windshield, no rear view mirror, no seat belt, no parking lights, no turn signals, no headlights, no airbag, nothing!

Something has to be done about this, for the safety of horse drivers.

Pablo C.
Pablo C.
December 21, 2017 10:38 am

The Amish don’t believe such things are necessary and therefore do without.

This includes, but is not limited to:
deodorant
daily bathing
shaving chin whiskers (but they do shave mustache/upper lip, and I have a theory that it relates to some from of birth control, but I won’t mention it, because you already guessed it)

One summer, when the horse flies were particularly harsh in the hills around Jamestown, NY, me and a friend tried to get us some wide brimmed straw hats, as seen on local aminoids. We asked around and every one of these folks would point us to the next shop/farm and say “we don’t have any for sale, but the Yoders down the road should have some”

needless to say, we never found anyone who would sell us these strange hats that allowed the user to be free from school taxes and horse flies.

we were sure is was a conspiracy to keep us “English” folks from obtaining the secret of the magic hats.

Realestatepup
Realestatepup
December 21, 2017 10:41 am

This whole ordinance is ridiculous on face value. How fast does a horse-drawn buggy even go? 15 miles an hour? Even if you are thrown from it, at that speed what would your injuries be? Maybe if you’re run over by it too…
The real danger I guess lies in the speeding 5000 lb death machine on the road behind or in front of you, operated by some senior citizen with narrow-angle glaucoma and the reflexes of an Amazonian sloth. Or a texting teenager. Or a drunk moron.
I did some research and it appears there have been 600 accidents involving Amish buggies and cars in Pennsylvania since 2003. From what I read, these involve speeding cars crashing into the buggies.
I understand tourists may not be as aware as locals, but if you live around there, wise up and slow down.
Even if you put seat belts and safety glass, the fact remains these are WOODEN VEHICLES with no enforcement of any kind, and the loser will always be the wood vehicle. It seems a waste of time and money to even bother.
Not to mention the fact that the Amish do not really use electricity, so how the hell would these lights be powered? Heavy batteries?
Does that mean ANYONE, on ANY ROAD, ANYWHERE, Amish or not, operating a horse-drawn vehicle would now have to comply? What about slow-moving excavators and tractors that take to the roads to move between work sites or fields?
So ridiculous. Go away morons. You make my head hurt.

Stucky
Stucky
December 21, 2017 10:45 am

The Amish are very very “free” …. as long as they strictly abide to their own many rules and customs.

Just saying.

I generally do like the Amish.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Stucky
December 21, 2017 3:25 pm

Voluntarily agreeing to rules and regulations is still FREE…because you can voluntarily NOT agree to them either….of course you won’t be considered Amish.

Stucky
Stucky
December 21, 2017 10:47 am

An Amish lady is trotting down the road in her horse and buggy when she is pulled over by a cop.

Ma’am, I’m not going to ticket you, but I do have to issue you a warning. You have a broken reflector on your buggy.

Oh, I’ll let my husband, Jacob, know as soon as I get home.

That’s fine. Another thing, ma’am. I don’t like the way that one rein loops across the horse’s back and around one of his balls. I consider that animal abuse. That’s cruelty to animals. Have your husband take care of that right away!

Later that day, the lady is home telling her husband about her encounter with the cop.

Well, dear, what exactly did he say? He said the reflector is broken.

I can fix that in two minutes. What else?

I’m not sure, Jacob … something about the emergency brake…

Snoke Jensen
Snoke Jensen
  Stucky
December 21, 2017 11:24 am

Hilarious!

BL
BL
  Stucky
December 21, 2017 11:28 am

Stucky, that was a good one. Some Amish people are dry as toast and some are very funny. One really old couple who made baskets for us were a hoot, their name was Yoder and yes, his name was Jacob. He could crack Amish jokes one right after another and have you in stitches.

They have passed on now but I sure appreciated their wit and artistry in their baskets.

Trapped in Portlandia
Trapped in Portlandia
December 21, 2017 11:15 am

The eminent Bill Winch was going easy on the Amish. He could have also required pollution controls. Every vehicle needs a catalytic convertor, engine or not. And he also forgot to require milage ratings on new buggies. You just can’t let people go into these purchases lacking information.

And let’s not forget the annual vehicle inspections. I would love to watch the government technician stick the probe up the horses ass. I suspect workman comp claims in Wisconsin might increase a bit.

cynikal
cynikal
December 21, 2017 11:41 am

Obviously he does not live around Amish, only visits them. I have a whole community that has moved in around me – it is not what it is dreamed to be. A few points, I happen to live in a very poor and rural county in North Arkansas, I am probably 1 of only a few that have full time jobs (this is for real). The Amish uses the system to their extreme opportunity. They are allowed tractors in our little Amish hamlet. I have a guy I see at least 3 times a week driving on the road in his rig with tire worn smooth from all the travel. No tags on these farm implements and they use off road diesel (read: no taxes paid). They hunt for most their food – I have found salt lick for deer 5 feet over my fence line. they bait them in and wipe them out. One bearded stinky guy once bragged to me about taking 18 deer last year. Sure our limits are high but not that high.

The quote, “just want to go about their business, leave others alone and be left alone in turn.” drives me nuts. Their business is taking our money – there is no other reason they set up everyday peddling their junk. They do not want to be left alone, they want us to come in gawk and spend money. They won’t necessarily leave other alone. I have pulled a gun on one for trespassing. My neighbor had to add a 5ft tall fence to his land because they would not stop using it for hunting and letting their horses graze on his land. I even suspect them stealing diesel from my storage for their generators.

Amish are not all they appear to be, they can be pushing and inconsiderate dealing with us lowly “English”. you have to be tough and show they you have their number and they will respect you.

cletus the slack jawed yokel
cletus the slack jawed yokel
  cynikal
December 21, 2017 2:07 pm

Thats a fact. The metal rims on their buggy wheels tears the asphalt to shreds too. They over hunt, and trespass like mad.

overthecliff
overthecliff
December 21, 2017 12:34 pm

I don’t like the Amish. They machinegun people. They drive trucks into crowds that don’t follow their religion. They even become suicide bombers to become martyrs who get to have unlimited sex virgins in paradise. They cut infidels heads off and fry them in cages and throw them off rooftops . Any group of people who does those things needs to be removed from society with prejudice.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  overthecliff
December 21, 2017 4:22 pm

i’m with you on this cliffie–
around here the damned amish commit so many drive by shootings it’s incredible-
not sure what’s worse,the sound of the muskets,the screaming of the victims,or that damned clop clop as they’re driving away but together it’s horrific–

Gloriously Deplorable Paul
Gloriously Deplorable Paul
December 21, 2017 2:40 pm

otc- I thought you were describing Canadians for a moment.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
December 21, 2017 3:29 pm

Indeed, the same argument I make regarding the bakers. EVERY business should be FREE to do as they please with regards to selling, not selling, etc. WITHOUT the need to prove any sort of religious foundation for their decision. They will be judged in the marketplace by those doing business with them, and that is the ONLY counterforce they should have to deal with – not the force of government. At the same time, government must NOT be a barrier to anyone wanting to start a competitive business (as they are today).