Political Immorality and Personal Immorality

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Many Americans have been shocked by recent revelations of the extent of sexual harassment in Congress. However, no one should be too surprised that those who spend their lives defending and expanding the welfare-warfare state engage in immoral personal conduct. It is only natural that an immoral system, like the welfare-warfare state, tends to attract individuals likely to practice personal immorality.

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The welfare-warfare state is built on a foundation of taxation and fiat currency controlled by a secretive central bank. While some type of taxation may be necessary to fund the few legitimate functions of government, taking people’s money to fund a redistributive welfare state at home and a global empire abroad is nothing more than theft. The Federal Reserve’s erosion of purchasing power is also a form of theft.

The welfare-warfare state relies on violence. Every law preventing us from living our lives as we choose — whether forbidding us from working for below minimum wage, preventing us from smoking marijuana or drinking raw milk, telling private business owners who can and cannot use what restroom, or requiring us to purchase government-approved health insurance — rests on the threat of force being used against those who refuse to obey.

The warfare side of the welfare-warfare state is obviously rooted in violence. War inevitably leads to deaths, including the deaths of innocents. A permanent warfare state is also the quickest way to lose our liberties. This is why the Founding Fathers counseled against standing armies and foreign entanglements.

The neocons and “humanitarian interventionists” who control our foreign policy have disregarded the wisdom of the Founders. They actually promote endless wars not to protect our security but to promote “democracy” and “universal human rights.” They are impervious to evidence of the failure of military interventions to achieve these goals and indifferent to the human and fiscal costs of endless war. They dismiss the loss of innocent lives — including the deaths of children — as unavoidable “collateral damage,” while using their influence in the media to spread pro-war propaganda. They also smear their opponents as aiding America’s enemies and sympathizing with terrorists.

No one holding political power wants to admit the system he supports is immoral and a failure. Therefore, defenders of the welfare-warfare state rely on lies and deceptions. They ignore all evidence of the failure of big government to accomplish its ends, instead pretending they can fix the system with a few reforms. They also work with allies in the media to promulgate the lie that without the welfare state the masses would remain poor and uneducated, and without the warfare state we would be overwhelmed by those who hate us for our freedoms. They never mention that many foreigners hate America because of the suffering caused by our hyper-interventionist foreign policy.

The welfare-warfare state is built on violence and deceit. It is thus inevitable that many of those participating in this immoral system will combine their immoral politics with immoral personal conduct. Hopefully the revelations of sexual misconduct among the welfare-warfare state’s Capitol Hill and media defenders will lead more Americans to question the morality and the wisdom of allowing the federal government to run the world, run the economy, and run our lives.

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i forget
i forget
December 25, 2017 3:02 pm

“It is only natural that an immoral system, like the welfare-warfare state, tends to attract individuals likely to practice personal immorality.”

Power doesn’t corrupt. (Any more than the most powerful handgun in the world will blow your head clean off.) Power attracts the already corrupt.

That includes every node in the matrix known as “voter.” Those are happy to send dirty harry to enforce their corruption.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  i forget
December 25, 2017 7:34 pm

“Power doesn’t corrupt. Power attracts the already corrupt.”

I actually think you’ve one-upped Lord Acton.

Wip
Wip
  hardscrabble farmer
December 25, 2017 7:39 pm

Yeah, I’m glad i forget is around.

Andrea Iravani
Andrea Iravani
December 25, 2017 3:47 pm

Most of the country is on corporate welfare. This is a secret crony communist system. America is propping up the largest, most incompetent, failing corporations, banks, and institutions in a secret crony communist conspiracy. $4.5 trillion in QE that the Federal Reserve DIDN’T EVEN PAY AS MUCH AS A HALF PENCE FOR, was billed to future tax payers to keep the incompetent businesses, and gangrenous and corrupt system on life support.

New business creation is at an all time low and business failures are at an all time high.

Propping up failing businesses prevents new and legitimate and honest businesses enter the system, since they cannot compete with the government subsidized businesses.

It is like trying to compete against Chinese companies dumping government subsidized products at the lowest possible wages of $2 a day.

People should not be expected to work full time and not be able to earn enough to survive for their efforts and work. That is amoral.

Free market now means zero cost, zero corporate accountability, and freedom from failure, that the American economy would be better off, if we allowed the failure to occur.

Trump has erroneously decided that propping up a failing system is a national security priority. I disagree, I think that letting the failing system fall flat on its face so that a regeneration of healthy businesses can occur should be a national security priority!

A Facade of Rationality – Covering Up a Kiting Scam – Andrea Iravani

A Facade of Rationality – Covering Up a Kiting Scam

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How to Give a Central Banker a Nervous Breakdown in 13 Minutes

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WTF EMPs, LIBOR, and A Government and Fed That Nobody Can Believe In

The University Hustle – Andrea Iravani

The University Hustle

Wip
Wip
  Andrea Iravani
December 25, 2017 4:41 pm

Good comment until you started including your links. I want to support you, and I have, but…

RiNS
RiNS
  Wip
December 25, 2017 10:05 pm

What did you expect Wip.
You thought she wuz just a cunt but
As you should now know for certain
Arseholes are only good at spewing shit…

Andrea Iravani
Andrea Iravani
  Andrea Iravani
December 25, 2017 9:31 pm

Oh sorry, I forgot to include this, the fascist need to control others, and the lengths that some people, like Maggie, Wip, and Llpoh, are willing to go to here, to attempt to silence and control me is exceptionally creepy:
The Only Things That America is Exceptional at are Fascism, Terrorism, and Corruption – Andrea Iravani

The Only Things That America is Exceptional at are Fascism, Terrorism, and Corruption

Stucky
Stucky
  Andrea Iravani
December 25, 2017 9:44 pm

And now Maggie gets shit on.

I wonder when Admin will flush the toilet, don’t you Mags?

Andrea Iravani
Andrea Iravani
  Stucky
December 25, 2017 9:55 pm

Oh, I remember you, you freaked out like a madman when I said that it is possible to live without lying, after your article in defense of lying.

And,I didn’t include a link to one of my articles, and I didn’t even criticize you or say a single unkind word about you or your article. I just offered you a path to freedom, amd you started verbally attackimg me and swearing at me. It was as if i was suggesting that people should resort to cannabilsm or something, the way that you so violently reacted to the idea that someone can live without lying. Ye shall know the truth shall make you free.

No, I didn’t shit on Maggie, she has written over a dozen posts about me. To whom much is given, much is expected, attempting to control a single poster isn’t exactly much. Just sayin! I pointed out the glaringly obvious. So, take that into consideration. It’s like accusing the media of shitting on Hillary Clinton.

It seems that there are many posters here who can dish it out, but can’t take it.

Stucky
Stucky
  Andrea Iravani
December 25, 2017 11:09 pm

Above … a TED talk … we lie 10 -200 times a day. But, you’re special. You can’t even control your emotional lashing out to people trying to help you … a simple thing for most. Yet, you can accomplish a far more difficult moral thing of not lying. Whatever. I don’t have much interest in debating your delusions.

I didn’t freak out. More delusions from you.

If you get posting rights here, then you’ll see me freak out.

Wip
Wip
  Stucky
December 25, 2017 9:56 pm

Oh well, I put my best foot forward. I tried and lost.?

The Wondering isn’t going to do shite.

Maggie
Maggie
  Stucky
December 26, 2017 8:49 am

WTF? I have been uncharacteristically reserved on this one, taking only a couple of name pokes at Andies Candies full of Vanities.

Andrea… how old are you? Are you a savant with the maturity of a 12 year old?

I see you are 52… what exactly does a Propaganda Combatant do other than argue?

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ADMIN!!!!!!!!! She’s a fucking LIBTARD pretending.

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Wip
Wip
  Andrea Iravani
December 25, 2017 9:59 pm

I wasn’t trying to silence or control you. The big dogs are actually against me on trying to help you. Damn motherfuck, I have to admit LLPOH was right and that fucking pisses me the fuck off.

RiNS
RiNS
  Wip
December 25, 2017 10:18 pm

Why the surprise Wip….

Andrea is a black hole of contempt at the center of her own universe.
No wonder she is soooo conflikted.

Wip
Wip
  RiNS
December 25, 2017 10:48 pm

I’m not the only one that seems to think she has something of value to say. I’m also not the only one that believes TBP should try damn hard to let people have a voice. I think either she will leave on her own, be driven out by others or be ignored.

Call me cray cray but is it possible that Andrea is a new and improved comment bot?

Maggie
Maggie
  Wip
December 26, 2017 8:46 am

It could be Wip… the bots are self-teaching, apparently.

… my son forced his father and I to watch a little video animation (stick people are the narrators of all Millennial stories… none of them took real ART classes, relying on their cell phones for images all their lives mine included) to explain how bots make better bots.

My son insisted we needed to understand how the new world works. Personally, I think the world is insanely racing toward Armageddon and the road to hell is paved with bots.

Wip
Wip
  Maggie
December 26, 2017 8:53 am

Maybe you could post that video? Do you have editing rights? If not, find me and post the video link. Sounds interesting.

Maggie
Maggie
  Maggie
December 26, 2017 9:10 am

I would go ask him… I looked at history, but there is an empty potato chip bag on my computer desk (brand new for his arrival! we don’t eat chips) and a few beer bottles (Corona, EC… we like that Mexican beer) in the trash beside the wall. Obviously, after we called it a night (around 10 o’clock, we shut it all down here, even on holidays), he took advantage of our new “unlimited data” plan Exede has offered us free for three months.

He needs his rest now. I’ll post the video later, standalone. It is a good one… he does come up with interesting and useful video links. I’m proud that he understands how it all works.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  RiNS
December 25, 2017 10:49 pm

ignore her posts that have links–do not vote/comment on them and eventually they will end–

Stucky
Stucky
  TampaRed
December 25, 2017 11:31 pm

I wish that were true.

But, look at her latest post just a few minutes ago. Thumbs up or down have no effect on it at all.

It does not care about criticism.

It does not care about others.

It does not have even basic decency.

It flouts all decorum, and is in-your-face and blatantly defiant when asked to play nice. “Fuck you, I do what I want, when I want, and you can’t do shit about it!!”

It cares only for itself. It found a place to defecate with impunity. It will stay here until it is forcibly eradicated. Just like a cockroach.

Maggie
Maggie
  Stucky
December 26, 2017 9:12 am

We haven’t had a good tar and feathering since that moron decided to OUT Admin on his own world-famous blog/forum. What was that crazy guy’s name?

Maggie
Maggie
  Andrea Iravani
December 26, 2017 9:01 am

Andrea. If people here wanted to “silence” you, you would be typing words that never appear here. JQ, like Milton, believes there is value in all opinion until it proves to be worthless.

“Though all the winds of doctrine were let loose to play upon the earth, so Truth be in the field, we do injuriously, by licensing and prohibiting, to misdoubt her strength. Let her and Falsehood grapple; who ever knew Truth put to the worse, in a free and open encounter?” Milton, Areopagitica

Westcoaster
Westcoaster
  Andrea Iravani
December 25, 2017 11:33 pm

Worse than this (and it’s very bad) is the missing $21.5 TRILLION in just the Pentagon and HUD.
I interpret these recent revelations as the wheels coming off the bus.
https://missingmoney.solari.com/

starfcker
starfcker
  Westcoaster
December 25, 2017 11:56 pm

Westcoast, there’s no missing 21 trillion dollars. Somebody made that up out of whole cloth. There has been no audit of anything on that scale, for Christ’s sake that’s more than our entire yearly GDP. Don’t fall for silly stuff like that, somebody just made that up.

Andrea Iravani
Andrea Iravani
  Andrea Iravani
December 26, 2017 1:13 am

America Will Continue to Lose, Because the Losers Are In Control – Andrea Iravani

America Will Continue to Lose, Because the Losers Are In Control

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
December 25, 2017 4:08 pm

People should not be expected to work full time and not be able to earn enough to survive for their efforts and work. That is amoral. – Iravanka

You don’t know what your talking about. Did you not read the part where Dr. Paul said that because of regulations, folks are not allowed to work for less than the minimum wage? Here you are talking like a modern-day socialist or statist, wanting to enact laws to ensure that all people get what they need from folks who have too much.

Andrea Iravani
Andrea Iravani
  EL Coyote
December 25, 2017 4:39 pm

Oh. A modern day statist socialist, like TR or Fighting Bob LaFollet. Ok fine. No problem.

Good luck with the Mussolini platform. We will see how that works out.

And Bob’s your uncle:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/poll-public-sours-on-gop-tax-plan-as-democrats-regain-lead-on-economy/ar-BBH2Rjo

Wip
Wip
  EL Coyote
December 25, 2017 4:54 pm

One possible(?) problem I have with your thoughts on pay is that a person can no longer strike out on their own in a natural way. They must enter the central bank game. The natural way is to go where there is room. Like the old saying…”Go west, young man”. A YOUNG man can no longer go west. Even in a metaphorical sense. Even if/when he is ready to Go West…he enters the world of crony capitalism and monopolistic barriers. That is not to say a person cannot succeed. Of course they can. It’s just to say that even good paying white collar jobs are going to continue to experience wage arbitrage. Even some Big Dogs you aspire to be like think this is correct. 3rd world countries have some things in common. One of the biggest is that the economic engines are controlled/owned by a small group. America is going in that direction. Will it change?

E, will it change?

E, don’t read half of what I wrote and then pick out 2 words to focus on.

Today’s economic world is much more like a herd of cows being milked from cradle to grave and directed in the most profitable way the silent hand sees fit.

Andrea Iravani
Andrea Iravani
  Wip
December 25, 2017 5:21 pm

I see it more as an economy run by the establishment, representing flesh eating bacteria, and the people, which are unwilling hosts to the flesh eating bacteria establishment, and are being killed by it.

Wip
Wip
  Andrea Iravani
December 25, 2017 6:10 pm

Sweet Jesus, no links.

Now that is the right way to do it. NO self-promotion. Keep it up Andrea, you’re doin it right.

Btw, the comment you responded to was a comment in reply to El Coyote’s comment.

Andrea Iravani
Andrea Iravani
  Wip
December 25, 2017 11:04 pm

@ Wip- There you go again.
Trump Should Stop Asking What Would Jared Do, and Start Asking What Would Jesus Do – Andrea Iravani

Trump Should Stop Asking What Would Jared Do, and Start Asking What Would Jesus Do

Are you beginning to see a pattern here?

Here is another thing, I am not in the slightest bit driven by up or down votes. Not even on my radar. How stupid does someone have to be into being manipulated by thumb votes? If you have any data on that, I’d love to see it. I’m guessing that there is a high correlation between stupidity and lack of a moral compass for those whose highest aspirations include high likes or up thumb votes.

Everybody loves a loser, because they can beat them and outshine them.

Wip
Wip
  Andrea Iravani
December 26, 2017 1:57 am

I could care less about votes also. Yes, I believe it is a form of soft manipulation also.

But for the love of God, stop posting links and responding with add-on articles that take the focus off of the article itself or the comment you are commenting on.

I AM TRYING TO HELP YOU because I believe you have something to say.

I don’t know how long I can hold off the horde of big dogs that want your ass banned.

If you get banned, tell me how that helps you.

Seriously, this is a great site and if you give it a chance you will find some really fucking smart people here. If you knew the numbers this place draws, you’d appreciate it the way it should be appreciated. JOIN us.

Give people a chance to interact with you. Plus, I. DO. NOT. WANT. TO. ADMIT. DEFEAT.

Just my .02

Stucky
Stucky
  Wip
December 26, 2017 6:54 am

Wip

NEVER admit defeat to Da Big Injun.

Just call it a Mutually Agreed Upon Temporary Cessation Of Hostilities Due To Make Benefit Great Nation Of TBP (MAUTCOHDTMBGNOTBP, for short)

Stucky
Stucky
  Wip
December 26, 2017 7:01 am

“I believe it is a form of soft manipulation also.”

Voting can be that. For example, I vote down AWB, and now that woman as a matter of automatic policy.

In most other cases, voting is not personality driven, imho. It is merely a way to let others know whether or not you agree with an OPINION. I think there is value in that.

Wip
Wip
  Wip
December 26, 2017 8:56 am

I would only, respectfully, disagree in that Trump was definitely a vote for or against his personality. IMO.

“MAUTCOHDTMBGNOTBP”, holy %$# Batman, I thought the government was f’d up with their acronyms.

i forget
i forget
  Andrea Iravani
December 25, 2017 6:42 pm

Economies aren’t “run.” They are ridden. Like waves are ridden. Like the planet is ridden.

But rentonomies are run. Mostly on the shoulders of running fleshcrumbfeeders.

Flesh eaters & eaten is too sharply figure\ground. Flesh eating is fractal. Even a guppy cashing an ss check is a flesh-eater. Voters are flesh-eaters. Tax-eaters, “working” gov, at any level or remove, are flesh-eaters.

Pogo the perverse’s frenemy is pogo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivor_Type

Wip
Wip
  i forget
December 25, 2017 7:07 pm

I love it when I understand your writing. ++++

i forget
i forget
  Wip
December 26, 2017 3:53 pm

Taking the checkered Understood is good.

Grog
Grog
  Andrea Iravani
December 26, 2017 3:42 am

“I see it more as a situation establishment, one might say, where myself, representing a flesh eating bacteria, and the people of TBP, which are unwilling hosts to the flesh eating bacteria establishment, and are being killed by it.”
” I am such an insufferable twat.”

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
December 25, 2017 5:47 pm

Wippers –
YoBo, Stuck, LLPOH, T4C and a few others have determined that Iravanka is KooKooFor KoKoPuffs.

Wip
Wip
  EL Coyote
December 25, 2017 6:12 pm

I’m just trying to help her in a different way. I do think she can contribute here if she is willing to change a little. Otherwise no-one is going to listen to her.

I’ll let you all be the bad cops. I’m trying to be the good cop.

Maggie
Maggie
  Wip
December 25, 2017 7:24 pm

It seems like there is chip on her shoulder… criticism of her relentless self-promotion brings attacks and insults.

She (yes, you Andes Ivanities) isn’t a dumbass, just overly defensive and ready to hurl insults.

We’ll see if she is able to sand down those rough patches on her skin and grow a hide.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
December 25, 2017 7:50 pm

I believe in redemption.

It does seem like some of the comments (the gang stalking thing) indicate a paranoia that might be the result of isolation rather than some kind of psychiatric issue, but that’s just a guess. I have seen a change in her/his/its posting lately that indicates a responsiveness to our comments and that’s a good thing. Running people off doesn’t seem very neighborly and considering the season, maybe a little latitude is in order.

PLEASE VISIT MY BLOG AND BUY MY SYRUP.

j/k

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
  hardscrabble farmer
December 25, 2017 7:54 pm

You forgot to add the link.

Like this:

https://canadiangunblog.com

Maggie
Maggie
  hardscrabble farmer
December 25, 2017 8:05 pm

HSF… I really DID hide the syrup. The amber bottle indeed tastes a bit like butterscotch and I had to put it in the basement storeroom to keep my son from taking it. He can have the rest of the ham. And two loaves of bread. And cake.

No syrup.

Please visit my page and order a bunny in a jar!

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Maggie
December 25, 2017 9:01 pm

I did a wet cure of a 20 pound ham using maple sugar, sea salt, cardamom, star anise, white and black peppercorns, garlic and cloves. Let that bugger soak for five days and let me tell you the smell of it was like something you’d expect in Heaven. Succulent, tender, sweet and salty.

I could get good at this stuff if I had another lifetime to practice…

Glad you liked the syrup, it really is the best and I’m not saying that because we make it, it’s the trees and the soil. We just got lucky.

Maggie
Maggie
  hardscrabble farmer
December 26, 2017 9:25 am

The soil is the key! We were so thrilled to find this place, owned by a real estate broker for 20 years but NEVER farmed. She had horses here for a bit, but except for having the hay cut, nada. I drizzled maple syrup on our ham. Actually, I drizzle the maple syrup on a lot of stuff these days.

I like the local honey for obvious reasons, but the maple syrup is something really special. My guests will probably be ordering some next spring.

By the way… there’s luck. And there’s Luck. Amen for Luck.

i forget
i forget
  hardscrabble farmer
December 26, 2017 4:24 pm

I’ve long thought Acton was giving himself, others, an out with that frame. Where the bread is buttered the checks are usually, one way or another balanced…in the mails. Ha.

Think too that naive “idealists” (quote locked since such a fundamental misreading of the frame cannot be aligned with anything close to idealism), like Ron Paul (if I am not just misreading him benefit of doubt) bought the line, the hook – & sunk. Mr. Smith Goes to Washington…ever seen it?

Redemption…. I don’t *believe.* Or at the least “strenuously” minimize belief (not really, those muscles have been worked & developed for decades now…tho not overtly & consciously & recognized as such, early on, as a goal to pursue – just another side effect of process) .

I am in favor (came that way, from the factory) of doing the work, & of the work being fun, enjoyable, pleasurable, curiosity itch-scratching. Then doing it a little better on the next lap. Then a little better still.

Or at least being motivated to try to do it a little better – every lap does not see improvement, some laps are worse than the previous one, some laps you crash. Then you get back on the bike (if it, &\or you, didn’t get broken, in which case, time to pit).

It’s craft, art, & it is worked for its own sake, not for the results, which are side-effect of that process…checkered flags are good (like being understood, Wip), but not the point.

Sidelines observers reactions – appreciation, opprobrium, whatever – has nada to do with it, either. Better by far to buy yourself than to sell it to others.

Started reading John Gray’s “The Silence of Animals – On Progress & Other Modern Myths” last night. Familiar stuff, written a different way, using different allusions, references – a better, improved, lap (& notice the date of Conrad’s recognition. Not new, nor is the longing for ‘long ago’ Pottersville scenes new.) :

“Joseph Conrad wrote ‘An Outpost of Progress’ in 1896, & it is a story at least as ferocious and disabused as his later & better-known novella *Heart of Darkness.* Conrad describes how Kayerts ‘sat by the corpse [of Carlier] thinking; thinking very actively, thinking very new thoughts. His old thoughts, convictions, likes & dislikes, things he respected & things he abhorred, appeared in their true light at last! Appeared contemptible & childish, false & ridiculous. He reveled in his new wisdom while he sat by the man he had killed.’ But not all of Kayerts’s old convictions have vanished, & what he still believes in leads him to his death. ‘Progress was calling Kayerts from the river. Progress & civilization & all the virtues. Society was calling to its accomplished child to come to be taken care of, to be instructed, to be judged, to be condemned; it called him to return from that rubbish heap from which he had wandered away, so that justice could be done.’

In setting his tale in the Congo, where he had observed the effects of Belgian imperialism at first hand when he visited the country in 1890 to take command of a river steamer, Conrad was making use of a change he had himself undergone. Arriving with the conviction that he was a civilized human being, he realized what in fact he had been: ‘Before the Congo, I was just a mere animal.’ The animal to which Conrad refers was European humanity, which caused the deaths of millions of human beings in the Congo.

The idea that imperialism could be a force for human advance has long since fallen into disrepute. But the faith that was once attached to empire has not been renounced. Instead it has spread everywhere. Even those who nominally follow more traditional creeds rely on a belief in the future for their mental composure. History may be a succession of absurdities, tragedies & crimes; but – everyone insists – the future can still be better than anything in the past. To give up this hope would induce a state of despair like that which had unhinged Kayerts.

Among the many benefits of the faith in progress the most important may be that it prevents too much self-knowledge. When Kayerts & his companion ventured into the Congo the aliens they met were not the indigenous inhabitants but themselves.

‘They lived like blind men in a large room1, aware only of what came in contact with them (& of that only imperfectly), but unable to see the general aspect of things. The river, the forest, all the great land throbbing with life, were like a great emptiness. Things appeared & disappeared before their eyes in an unconnected & aimless kind of way. The river flowed though a void. Out of that void, at times, came canoes, and men with spears in their hands would suddenly crowd the yard of the station.’

They cannot endure the silence2 into which they have come: ‘stretching away in all directions, surrounding the insignificant cleared spot of the trading post, immense forests, hiding fateful complications of fantastic life, lay in the eloquent silence of mute greatness.’ The sense of the progression of time, which they had brought with them, begins to fall away. As Conrad writes towards the end of the story, ‘Those fellows, having engaged themselves to the Company for six months (without having any idea of a month in particular & only a very faint notion of time in general), had been serving the cause of progress for upwards of two years.’3 Removed from their habits, Kayerts & Carlier lose the abilities that are needed to go on living. ‘Society, not from any tenderness, but because of its strange needs, had taken care of these two men, forbidding them all independent thought, all initiative, all departure from routine; & forbidding it under pain of death. They could live only on condition of being machines.’

The machine-like condition of modern humans may seem a limitation. In fact it is a condition of their survival. Kayerts & Carlier were able to function as individuals only because they had been shaped by society down to their innermost being. They were:

‘two perfectly insignificant & incapable individuals, whose existence is only rendered possible through the high organization of civilized crowds. Few men realize that their life, the very essence of their character, their capabilities & their audacities, are only their expression of their belief in the safety of their surroundings. The courage, the composure, the confidence; the emotions & principles; every great & every insignificant thought belongs not to the individual but to the crowd: to the crowd that believes blindly in the irresistible force of its institutions & it morals, in the power of the police & of its opinion.’

When they stepped outside of their normal surroundings, the two men were powerless to act. More than that: they ceased to exist.

For those who live inside a myth, it seems a self-evident fact. Human progress is a fact of this kind. If you accept it you have a place in the grand march of humanity. Humankind is, of course, not marching anywhere. ‘Humanity’ is a fiction composed from billions of individuals for each of whom life is singular & final. But the myth of progress is extremely potent. When it loses its power those who have lived by it are – as Conrad put it, describing Kayerts & Carlier – ‘like those lifelong prisoners who, liberated after many years, do not know what use to make of their freedoms.’4 When faith in the future is taken from them, so is the image they have of themselves. If they then opt for death, it is because without that faith they can no longer make sense of living.

When Kayerts decides to end his life he does it by hanging himself on a cross. ‘Kayerts stood still. He looked upwards; the fog roled low over his head.He looked around like man who has lost his way; & he saw a dark smudge, a cross-shaped stain, upon the shifting purity of the mist. As he began to stumble towards it, the station bell rang5 in a tumultuous peal its answer to the impatient clamour of the steamer.’ Just as the steamer is arriving – showing that civilization is still intact – Kayerts reaches the cross, where he finds redemption in death.

What has the cross to do with progress? Conrad tells us that it had been put up by the Director of the Great Trading Company to mark the grave of the first of his agents, formerly an unsuccessful painter6, who ‘had planned & had watched the construction of this outpost of progress.’ The cross was ‘much out of the perpendicular’, causing Carlier to squint whenever he passed it, so one day he replants it upright. Wanting to make sure that it is solid, he applies his weight to it: ‘I suspended myself with both hands to the cross-piece. Not a move. Oh, I did that properly.’ It is on this tall, sturdy structure, which appears to him as a dark, smudged stain in the mist, that Kayerts ends his life.

In the story that the modern world repeats to itself, the belief in progress is at odds with religion. In the dark ages of faith there was no hope of any fundamental change in human life. With the arrival of modern science, a vista of improvement opened up. Increasing knowledge allowed humans to take control of their destiny. From being lost in the shadows7, they could step out into the light.

In fact, the idea of progress is not at odds with religion in the way this modern fairy tale suggests. Faith in progress is a late survival of early Christianity, originating in the message of Jesus, a dissident Jewish prophet who announced the end of time. For the ancient Egyptians as for the ancient Greeks, there was nothing new under the sun. Human history belongs in the cycles of the natural world. The same is true in Hinduism & Buddhism, Daoism & Shinto, & the older parts of the Hebrew bible. By creating the expectation of a radical alteration in human affairs, Christianity – the religion that St. Paul invented from Jesus’ life & sayings – founded the modern world.

In practice human beings continued to live much as they had always done. As Wallace Stevens wrote:

She hears, upon the water without sound,
A voice that cries, ‘The tomb in Palestine
Is not the porch of spirits lingering,
It is the grave of Jesus, where he lay.’
We live in an old chaos of the sun.

It was not long before a literal expectation of the End was turned into a metaphor for a spiritual transformation. Yet a change had taken place in what was hoped of the future. Many transmutations were needed before the Christian story could renew itself as the myth of progress. But from being a succession of cycles like the seasons, history came to be seen as a story of redemption & salvation, & in modern times salvation became identified with the increase of knowledge & power – the myth that took Kayerts & Carlier to the Congo.

When Conrad used his experiences of the Congo in *Heart of Darkness (1899), he was not telling a story of barbarism in faraway places. The narrator tells the tale on a yacht moored in the Thames estuary: barbarism is not a primitive form of life, Conrad is intimating, but a pathological development of civilization8. The same thought recurs in *The Secret Agent* (1907), Conrad’s novel of terrorism & conspiracy, which is set in London. The anarchist Professor, who travels everywhere with a bomb in his coat that he intends to detonate if arrested, wants to believe that humanity has been corrupted by government, an essentially criminal institution. But, as Conrad understood, it is not only government that is tainted by criminality. All human institutions – families & churches, police forces & anarchists – are stained by crime9. Explaining human nastiness by reference to corrupt institutions leaves a question: why are humans so attached to corruption? Clearly, the answer is in the human animal itself.

Conrad shows the Professor struggling with this truth: ‘He was in a long, straight street, peopled by a mere fraction of an immense multitude; but all around him, on & on, even to the limits of the horizon hidden by the enormous piles of bricks, he felt the mass of mankind mighty in its numbers. They swarmed numerous like locusts, industrious like ants, thoughtless like a natural force, pushing on blind & orderly & absorbed, impervious to sentiment, to logic, to terror too, perhaps.’

The Professor continues to dream of a future in which humans will be regenerated. But what he truly loves is destruction10: ‘the incorruptible Professor walked, averting his eyes from the odious multitude. He had no future. He disdained it. He was a force. His thoughts caressed the images of ruin & destruction. He walked frail, insignificant, shabby, miserable – & terrible in the simplicity of his idea calling madness & despair to the regeneration of the world.’ If Kayerts hanged himself because he no longer believed in progress, the Professor is ready to kill & die in order to show that he still has faith in the future.

The myth of progress casts a glimmer of meaning into the lives of those who accept it. Kayerts, Carlier & many like them did nothing that could be described as significant11. But their faith in progress allowed their petty schemes to seem part of a grand design, while their miserable deaths achieved a kind of exemplary futility their lives had not possessed.”

1 Those blind wizzers of hindustan & the large elephant.

2 “All of humanity’s problems stem from man’s inability to sit quietly in a room alone. ” ― Blaise Pascal

3

4 Brooks was here. So was Red. ~ carved into the ceiling beam, “Shawshank Redemption”

5 Asking for whom it tolls is a wasted question…an attempted evasion.

6 Hitleresque

7 Allegory of the cave

8 Rousseauesque

9 Sympathy for the Devil ~ Rolling Stones

10 Sounds like some locals. But not just local yokels. Everywhere….

11 The “we did it” – civilized white westerners shtick…us uber, ya’ll unter…which bestows special privileges & dispensations upon us•erers.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  i forget
December 27, 2017 8:30 am

First, that anyone would give you a down vote on that comment has to be from either jealousy or irony because it was one of the single best responses I have ever read on this blog and that’s saying something.

It took me a while to be able to pick up on the rhythm of your writing style. It is not just unique, but complex and layered, like Pynchon or Cormac McCarthy. I can’t tell if you are just that good or if it’s some kind of gift you don’t even realize you have, but either way you had better be working on pieces of your own to share with a wider audience. I keep finding these beautiful gems inside of each thread, finely crafted arrangements of words that lay out some immutable truth in a way I have never seen done before outside of Spengler or Hesse- I re-read them to make sure I got the point and there is something else under the surface I missed that made it so exciting to read the first time.

Like this passage-

“Or at least being motivated to try to do it a little better – every lap does not see improvement, some laps are worse than the previous one, some laps you crash. Then you get back on the bike (if it, &\or you, didn’t get broken, in which case, time to pit).

It’s craft, art, & it is worked for its own sake, not for the results, which are side-effect of that process…checkered flags are good (like being understood, Wip), but not the point.

Sidelines observers reactions – appreciation, opprobrium, whatever – has nada to do with it, either. Better by far to buy yourself than to sell it to others.”

I am very glad not to be in complete agreement with you on some things (it let’s me know you aren’t completely enlightened, no offense), like with this one-

“Redemption…. I don’t *believe.*”

That indicate either A) You’ve never done anything that needed to be changed, or B) You are unable to, except in little ways that don’t fundamentally alter your frame. The first would be a blessing, while the other would be a curse, but then I am trying to impose my frame on someone else so there’s that.

Anyhow, I just wanted to let you know how much I enjoyed the response you wrote- especially the analysis of Conrad, one of my all time favorites- it was really profound and a great way for me to start a day of unbearable labor in bitter cold, nice to allow my mind to chew on something of substance.

And if you ever find yourself in NH, you have to stop by so we can shoot the breeze.

i forget
i forget
  hardscrabble farmer
December 27, 2017 6:31 pm

I read someone’s explanation of why the voting feature is in blogs, why so many use it, are into it: he said it elicits a dopamine rush. He also thought it was an innocuous buzz, so why not give the gift. Or the “hot shot,” as the case may be. Whether that’s 100% true or not, it’s close enough, imo. I decided then that I’d stop enabling, stop pushing (that bit of high).

Also wings that 2nd bird with the one stone: “votes” are a secret handshake sort of thing that fraternities pass amongst themselves almost, if not completely, as a matter of course. Rote rhymes vote. I’ve got my own routines, but am wary of all communal ones.

I’d say it’s a gift (from the factory) that practice (“doing the work”) has enlarged. Others sometimes curse it. lol.

Have cited the bit before, from Darwin’s private notebooks, that nobody deserves credit for anything. And how that idea forces confrontation with the opposite side of the coin – demerits.

Paradoxes abound but this is a fundamental one for human life: how it is in fact *is* and how it needs be (would it were, but largely is not) a comportment of *as if.* This is not falling into clarity of explanation or description at the moment, but it’s not a simple thing, either. Holding opposites simultaneously.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Philosophy_of_%27As_if%27 but from an “ideal” – that begins at the decentralized beginning, those a prioris inherent to & inalienable from (should be) individuals — rather than centralized pragmatic, utilitarian, ends justifies means & might makes right stanza stances

You got to sing like you don’t need the money
Love like you’ll never get hurt
You got to dance like nobody’s watchin’
It’s gotta come from the heart if you want it to work

“Do all your work as if you had a 1000 years to live, and as you would if you knew you must die tomorrow.” ~ Ann Lee a Shaker momma. The Communistic Societies of the United States. Take it where I find it.

“You’ve got to get to the stage in life where going for it is more important than winning or losing.” ~ Arthur Ashe

But I do like lush. Reality is lush. Hemingway staccato is good, has a place at the table too. But poetry gets closer to the density, the layers, temperature\pressure gradients – the fluid liquidity – of it all.

Been playing with the gift of chips random lie for a long time. But like I said, it’s more like meditation, nothing like performance for others.

Much of the side effect of meditation is, or has been for me, disabuse. And staccato, or setting the Flesch-Kincaide to 8th grade, or saying the same things the same way over & over again, would be self-abuse, to me.

But deftness, a light touch, or loose grasp, needs be, too. Juggling.

So “redemption in death” is poetry making a point, but yet another fluid-liquid point, a vibrating string, not a literal point. Because whatever literalness death contains, if any, can only be known by the dead. And because when I “died” – quibbles aside – there was literally no mas, & then there was literally me again, in the back of an ambulance.

“It was not long before a literal expectation of the End was turned into a metaphor for a spiritual transformation. Yet a change had taken place in what was hoped of the future. Many transmutations were needed before the Christian story could renew itself as the myth of progress. But from being a succession of cycles like the seasons, history came to be seen as a story of redemption & salvation, & in modern times salvation became identified with the increase of knowledge & power – the myth that took Kayerts & Carlier to the Congo.”

It’s not A, or B. It’s both. Heads & tails. Minus A\B, too. And how that loose change moves around one’s pocket, out into the economy, back into pocket. It breathes. It circulates.

But lungs have capacities that frame the inhale\exhale, & everything associated, everything before the respiration & everything after it, too.

“…it is important to remember that the frame minus the picture could be almost as compelling as the picture minus the frame. Sometimes it can be even more so….” ~ John Russell

And like this variation ☻ John Russell: Hey. I got a question. How are you planning to get back down that hill? Grimes: Now you wait a minute! I’m getting back down the same way I came up! (Begins running back down the hill. Russell shoots him as he is running). Jessie: [as Grimes crawls away after being shot] Cicero Grimes, meet John Russell.

I can’t get above all the layers, nobody can – there is a frame that contains all the lesser frames & who knows how many lesser frames are above. But I’ve no choice about being invested in, or wielded representative of, a process of not being framed by the brothers, other relatives.

Myths are like the unseen\unseeable, to many, water fish swim in. But some fish leap & fly (into more myths, sometimes). Some crawled out of liquid water into liquid air, became terrestrial (ore myths, sometimes). And some of those breathed into aerial niches (ditto). Some others turned around, went back into the water. None of them chose any of it. Only people, many of them, claim credit for choosing, & for outcomes, including denial of responsibility for outcomes. Lotsa’ heads I win, tails you lose out there. Lotsa’ coin clipping out there. Lotsa’ central bankers.

Doing the work, with understanding, or “consciously,”(which is not to say with complete understanding or consciousness) is redemptive is poetry is lush is not literal. Lush does not reduce to literal very well.

And myth, no matter how lush, is all about reducing lush to literal.

An ostensible literal is so preferred it’s not a stretch to bring it back ‘round to dopamine, addiction, frames.

Get high, take trips, have NDE’s – fine. But take those sights, other sensations, literally, seriously? That’s hanging on too tight. The ineffable get’s f’d, crushed out, & the butts get flicked everywhere. The world as ashtray. & crematoriums.

“Any activity becomes creative when the doer cares about doing it right, or better. “ ~ John Updike

Myth is poetry in prose form, & there is a large body politic that insists their fave ones be taken literally. Or did insist, did put on that insistent face, & then, as some mothers threatened\warned, it did freeze in place. Ice painted into corners of various angles in which it’s all Winter all the time.

I love it, Winter; my fave season. Crampons, snowshoes, skis, skates. An augur, if you’re into ice fishing. And layering; lots of layers. Ha.

So I agree with Oscar. He won’t mind if I tweak: Lush life (reality) is far too important a thing ever to talk seriously•literally•white knuckle graspingly about.

No matter how much hand strength you have, the whip is gonna’ crack you off anyway. That’s obviously just part of the ride, too. Even if it is just the end of the ride.

Thanks for the compliments. A string vibrates. Another string recognizes the vibe. Resonates. Picks it up. Adds its own tension. Puts it out. Harp music sometimes. Harpoons other times.

Ishmael struck lucky. The rest of the crew rode Ahab’s redemption down.

I used to dislike “I’d rather be lucky than good.” But I eventually grew fond of it. Because no matter how good I got at anything, lurking non-linear luck, bad & good, always ended up being the main ingredient. But I listen for, to, the music. And took, take, my turns, same as anybody else.

Thanks for the invite, too. NH is on my list of places to explore. Fall colors in particular. If I ever get there, I’ll take you up on it. The muse tells me that part of the world strictly reserves outsider status for people who haven’t been there for generations. But that’s like trying to impress bre’r rabbit with briar patches. Ha.

Ever see this one? Worth the look. Bill Murray, personal project. Fish out of usual waters. Trailer & fave scene.

Dr. Doom
Dr. Doom
December 25, 2017 7:58 pm

Minimum wage is the problem, but not how you say. It allows the corporations to pay below living wages legally and pass the cost to taxpayers to subsidize these conglomerates that have little profitability or innovation. “Regulations” prop up failing Megacorps that suck all the lifeblood out of the economy by CRUSHING COMPETITION. Onerous regulations police the cronies propped up by the system and PREVENT START-UPS that could destroy their Monopoly.
Small farms were first, but small business is now owned almost WHOLLY by subcontinent Indians who USED SBA TAXPAYER FUNDS TO BUY THEM. Why? They are STUPID. All the cheap corn crap sold at Qwik-e-Mart comes from Giant Agribusinesses. These dumb Pakis and Dot Indians never had agriculture. Safe or nutritious food is lost on them. Food or die is what they know. Its all they know.
Without your own business, you are running on a hamster wheel for the Rat Race. The Rats get stinking Rich, and you get Bupkus. Not even a cheap Timex. You are a cog on a wheel. They throw you away and let Uncle Sham feed you til you croak or suicide.
Welcome to Pottersville. Merry Cheap Plastic Crap Cyberpunk Dystopian Corporate Slavery Future, chummers…

Wip
Wip
  Dr. Doom
December 25, 2017 8:30 pm

Yes, I like the way you said vs. the way I did.

kokoda - AZEK (Deck Boards) doesn't stand behind its product
kokoda - AZEK (Deck Boards) doesn't stand behind its product
December 25, 2017 9:54 pm

I have not posted a comment to any comment by Andrea even on earlier days as I had already noted some negative comments and I decided to wait and see.

What I do see is a closed hive mind of negativism which IMO is not appropriate/justified. There are regular members Of TBP which stick together, much like a gang with nobody with the courage to defy the hive.

I’ve seen this also occur when someone gives a negative comment to specific Posters, while other Posters are fair game.

For clarity, I just think the admonitions against Andrea are not only over the top, but the ‘jumping-on-the-bandwagon’ is an unhealthy and dangerous road.

Merry Christmas to you and your families

Wip
Wip

I don’t like her but I’d be damned if I advocated for her removal. I don’t like silencing people. I don’t see TBP as a blog that shuts people out. There are plenty here that can take turns in a cage match with her. I’m sure sure there are people who wouldn’t mind silencing the Jew Question. I’ll just ignore her until she can find a way to respond to the things people are actually saying to her. She seems blind to anyone’s help or response.

I do think it’s a shame because I still think she could find this a great place to be. All anyone is kind of demanding is that she stop promoting her blog. I think. That’s all I want her to stop doing.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Wip
December 25, 2017 11:30 pm

WIP – she is all over the place like a mad woman pissing. If she uses the place for fre advertising, sge should go, and the sooner the better.

She has a screw loose, and needs professional help, and I kid you not.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Wip
December 25, 2017 11:38 pm

Wipper, why don’t you and KoKo Latte call yourselves the Righteous Brothers? You are getting all saintly on us. I just wanted an apology. This is no victim we are dealing with, Iravanka is pushing back hard.

I understand it’s Christmas but I was still surprised that LLPOH took it real easy on her. If you read the shit she threw his way, he would have run a steamroller over any other person. You may not have been here when he sauteed Clammy’s ass for far less.

Ordinarily, I side with the minority position but in this case, I have no cause to defend, Iravanka is asking for it, for all she is getting. I don’t know why. Maybe she thrives on rejection.

Wip
Wip
  EL Coyote
December 26, 2017 1:26 am

OK, so give it to her good and hard. I have no beef with that. She will either learn or leave imo.

Yes, the free advertising is f’n lame. I’ve mentioned that already. Also, it is beyond f’d up that on her own blog she requires a person sign in before commenting.

Yes, I saw the clammy event you speak of.

Btw, since when does anyone “require” an apology around here?

I ain’t arguing with you all. In fact, it looks as though I may be wrong and have to admit LLPOH MAY be right and for me to admit LLPOH MAY be right sucks fucking donkey dick.

LLPOH – even though we’ve thrown nuclear monkey shit at each other, I wouldn’t have thought you would try to ban someone.

I will point out that I questioned whether or not it’s possible she is a new and improved bot. Sounds cray cray, I know.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Wip
December 26, 2017 1:40 am

I can recommend a good mouthwash. Works for me whenever I put a foot in my mouth.

Wip
Wip
  Llpoh
December 26, 2017 1:48 am

In a sense, you are wrong. I think your biggest beef is her self promotion. She is saying things that I’ve heard here for years.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Wip
December 26, 2017 2:30 am

Of course it is with her self-promotion. Otherwise she is just batshit crazy, and generally wrong (like saying people deserve a living wage, but does not tie such to output, meaning she wants employers to subsidize non-productive employees, profit be damned). If she stops her bullshit links, I will largely leave her alone.

I do not remember suggesting she be banned, but may have, as I think, personally, it is near that point. She is abusing the site with all her links to her own blog. No one else does it.

starfcker
starfcker
  Wip
December 26, 2017 3:04 am

Good God, WIP. Not you, too. What is the Jew question? All I see is scared little bitches when I ask that question. You fools play like it should be obvious. It’s not obvious to me. What is the Jew question? Is it, are we going to turn the Jews into bars of soap? Do tell, boy

Wip
Wip
  Wip
December 26, 2017 8:37 am

LLPOH – I was pretty sure that was your take on her. I don’t care about HER. I care about the freedom of the site. YES, her self promotion, especially when she requires a person to login to her site to post a comment, is a big no no.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Wip
December 26, 2017 9:59 am

You don’t recall YoBo getting all prima-donna and demanding an apology from Stuck and me? He went so far as to demand action from Admin – surely your recall his shrill “Admiiiiiin!”
I adopted that tactic since it is different from outright attacking Iravanka.

starfcker
starfcker
December 26, 2017 3:19 am

If that’s what ‘we’ are going to do, who is this ‘we’? I’m assuming that you’re referring to the other 500 people in the United States that think this way. Let’s see, there’s six or seven million Jewish people in the United States, and maybe another 5 or 6 million in Israel. In the meantime, there’s probably 200 million Christian white people in the US, not counting the rest of the anglosphere and Western Europe. Hell, our brightest 10% could easily dominate the entire world Jewish population.

Wip
Wip
  starfcker
December 26, 2017 8:35 am

I have no problem with any topic. Talk about the Jews, I don’t care. I have even encouraged Yo to keep it up. I only mentioned Jews because so many others have expressed displeasure of it. I believe some have asked those people be banned.

Stucky
Stucky
December 26, 2017 6:39 am

“What is the Jew question?” —– starfcker

Do Jews mostly own or control banking and the MSM (TV, print, and internet?
— if yes, there could be a Jew problem

Do Jews have an inordinate amount of representation in American politics?
— if yes, there could be a Jew problem

Does Israel have great influence or control US policy in the M.E. resulting in great cost to the US in money and blood?
— if yes, there could be a Jew problem

Do Jews respect Christians/Christianity, or do they just use it as a means to an end?
— if a means to an end, there could be a Jew problem

I’m sure if you put on your Thinking Cap you can come up with many more problems to each of the ‘yes’ issues above.

You might even come up with more questions … NONE of which have to do with soap.

starfcker
starfcker
  Stucky
December 26, 2017 11:38 pm

“Do Jews have an inordinate amount of representation in American politics?
— if yes, there could be a Jew problem” you’re just making stuff up at this point. The brighter citizenry is always going to gravitate to the top. Do you think a country can be run by dumbasses? So the country’s 500 Nazis see that as a problem. Nobody cares. Maybe they should have studied harder in school

Stucky
Stucky
  starfcker
December 27, 2017 7:49 am

“.. you’re just making stuff up at this point. The brighter citizenry is always going to gravitate to the top.”

That was your answer to the politics question. I did not know it’s the brighter citizens who are on top. Me and the guy below thank you.

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(Bush … the dumb one …. if it doesn’t load)
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“Do you think a country can be run by dumbasses?”

You’re kidding, right? Right! That was s joke. Got it. VERY funny!

wholy1
wholy1
December 26, 2017 6:47 am

Should anybody with two functioning brain cells be surprised that government attracts the least-productive, criminally-inclined element of a society?

starfcker
starfcker
December 26, 2017 10:54 am

You guys are total cowards. What is the Jewish question? Spell it out. Because whatever you pussy boys think it is, nobody cares. Try to keep up with current events. Let’s look at the criminals about to be exposed and rooted out of government. We are starting to get a pretty clear idea of who the bad apples are. Comey, Strzok, McCabe, Mueller, Lynch, and so on. There’s a bunch of hook nosed bastards, huh? They could start their own Chabad. Maybe we’ll even get to some big ones, Clinton and Obama. And who’s the guy working tirelessly who’s going to end up being the linchpin taking them down? That would be Horowitz. And when he’s done, we can retire him to the soap aisle, right? The “Jewish question” isn’t important at all. None of you idiots is brave enough to even say it out loud. How come? Certainly not an overload of bravery. Jews are a tiny minority. They work hard, they respect family and education, and you guys have this cartoon viewpoint of the threat that they pose to you. Which is zero.

Wip
Wip
  starfcker
December 26, 2017 7:08 pm

Calm dooooown man. All I’m saying is any and all topics are acceptable. Well, maybe not all but I can’t think of any off the top of my head that aren’t. What topic hasn’t been covered in articles or in comments?