Whose Ideas?

Guest Post by Eric Peters

It’s been said that good ideas don’t require force – while bad ones rarely get traction without it. True enough. But how about a qualifier?

Whose ideas?

Yours? Mine?

There is a kind of tacitly agreed upon – or at least, rarely questioned – notion that we all agree on what constitutes a “good” idea. It’s the keystone of coercive collectivism, without which that ideology loses moral legitimacy.

But in fact, we don’t agree about what a “good” idea is. Millions of individuals tend to have millions of individually variable ideas about that.

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So the question becomes: Whose ideas will prevail?

If there is a free market – in ideas as well as economics – this will sort itself out naturally and non-violently, via the signals of supply and demand. Actually, those two should be reversed. It is demand which determines supply (as well as price).

A question:

Is there market demand for six air bags (and back-up cameras and tire pressure inflation sensors and anti-whiplash head restraints, etc.) in every new car?

Wouldn’t it be nice to find out?

Unfortunately  there’s no way to know, because the market – millions of individual people’s freely expressed determinations about what’s “good” – hasn’t been allowed to operate. Instead, a handful of people’s idea that air bags (and the rest of it) are “good” has been imposed on everyone else, on the false presumption that everyone agrees it is good to have six air bags – and many other such things – installed in every new car. This is taken as a kind of collectively agreed upon noggin nodding. That illusion must be maintained, in order for the coercion and collectivism behind it to have any semblance of moral legitimacy.

And yet, it is obviously not legitimate because some noggins aren’t nodding – including mine.

Because more air bags is never enough air bags…

And even if it is just mine.

Morality isn’t democratically determined.

Why should my ideas – or yours – about the “good” of air bags or any other such thing be forced to take a back seat to anyone else’s opposite idea?

That is the moral question at issue. And it goes much deeper than air bags.     

It’s interesting to speculate what might be available, car-wise, if individual demand – as opposed to coercive collectivized mandate – were allowed to determine supply.

Actually, we can get a pretty good idea about what would be available, car-wise, if we were free to choose – and if the car industry were free to meet that demand – by looking at other goods which are built to suit individual demand as opposed to coercive collective mandate.

Personal computers, for example.   

You can buy a high-end Macbook, if that is your preference. It will be feather light, have amazing features, a high-resolution Retina display and a handsome aluminum case. It will also cost you $1,200 to start.

Or, you could buy a $300 no-name PC.

It won’t have all the features of the Macbook. But it may be sufficient for your needs. Cool – right? The government – i.e., a handful of people who’ve somehow acquired the power to make and enforce such decisions – doesn’t (yet) mandate that you buy a high-resolution Retina display and so on. You are free – for now – to buy the computer which meets your ideas about “good”  . . . and “good enough.”   

…it gets the job done.

Imagine that same dynamic allowed to play out with regard to cars. It’s not even necessary to imagine.

We can know.   

The government only got into the car design business in a serious way in the mid-‘70s. Before then, we we were largely free to buy what we wanted – not what coercive collectivism imposed on us. There was a market for bare-bones simplicity, high-end luxury and almost every conceivable thing in between. Not coincidentally, the golden age of car design is generally considered to be the pre-government design era. Batfinned Cadillacs – and air-cooled Corvairs.

Sometimes, mistakes were made – the Edsel, famously – but nothing was forced on people. The Edsel sucked, but it wasn’t subsidized. Ford ate the loss – not the taxpayer. Ideas came – and stayed or went – on the merits. If people wanted it, they bought it. If not, they didn’t. In the case of the latter, the car industry stopped making it.

Seems reasonable.

Then along came unreasonable. Or rather, immoral.

Some people – a gaggle of pushy know-it-alls – decided their notions of what is “good” must be applied generally – even if the market rampantly disagreed with their notion. Air bags are the best example of this cross-wiring of the natural order of things.

Or what ought to be the natural order of things.

They were invented – then offered. So far, so good. The market – the free choice of millions of individuals – said nyet. And that’s where it should have ended. The bags cost too much vs. the putative value. Mark that. Value – the “good” – is a subjective estimation calculated in the mind of every human individual. I can have the air bags – and maybe they’ll be nice to have if I crash into a tree. Or I could buy leather seats, which I’ll enjoy much more.

I’ll take the seats, please!

How is this meaningfully – and morally – different than a person electing to buy the $300 tablet instead of the $,1200 Mac? Why is it ok to force people to – in effect – buy the $1,200 Mac?

Because “safety” is a consideration? Only of degree, not kind. A high-end Retina display is without question easier on the eyes – and so, safer – than a basic display. Besides, why is this weighing of the pros and cons of your safety or your health the business – morally speaking – of anyone other than yourself?

How did it happen that other people’s ideas of what’s “good” are binding on us?    

It’s the craziest – and the most dangerous – thing imaginable.

Coercive collectivism – the ideology responsible for literally hundreds of millions of murdered victims – depends on maintaining the illusion that everyone is in agreement. That we are all one big “team.”

And of course, every team has leaders.

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Dutchman
Dutchman
January 4, 2018 4:23 pm

The bags cost too much vs. the putative value.

Eric is a smart guy – but he has to get better examples – he’s beat this car thing to death.

There are a lot more cars on the road than 1960. And maybe you’ll agree that they are constructed much better – safer / don’t rust / good seat-shoulder belts / air bags / crash resistance . Now Eric thinks government mandate is bad – especially for air bags.

The deal is a car is a commodity – they are routinely sold. So the safety features need to be on every vehicle. Just because an invention (like the air bag) didn’t exist in 1965 – doesn’t mean that 1965 was the ‘zenith’ of automotive engineering.

I’m old enough to remember that the President of GM said if they were to put seat belts in every car they would go bankrupt.

Aquapura
Aquapura
January 4, 2018 4:58 pm

At least this isn’t an article about VW…

I still think Mr. Peter’s is using cars as a bad analogy to his ideology. Sure, the gov’t mandated safety standards in vehicles but had they not your insurance company surely would have. And don’t forget the public has demanded safety features on vehicles. What parent wants to send a newly minted teen driver out in a death trap? What family doesn’t sue when there is a death that could’ve been avoided with a better vehicle design?

Also don’t forget that you have more vehicle choice today than perhaps ever. Would a 2018 vehicle with no safety features be cheaper – sure – but who in their right mind would want to drive it? If the DOT ceased all regulations Chrysler could bring back the K car uber cheap but would anyone buy it? I highly doubt it. Believe it or not, people like the cars we have today, with all the safety and nanny features.

Lament the laziness of American’s for the lack of standard transmissions, but complaining about airbags??!!?? C’mon, be a car journalist, not an idiot.

White Fang
White Fang
January 4, 2018 8:38 pm

As a kid in the 50s I heard a family friend tell of coming upon a wreck on the new four lane Merritt Parkway in CT years earlier. A young woman in the passenger seat ( no seatbelt) had been thrown through the front windshield ( non safety glass) and her frantic relatives had pulled her back, horribly lacerating her face on the broken shards. Given the current dangers inherent in highway driving like idiots texting or drugged out or just not paying attention I do not mind having some extra protection.

MN Steel
MN Steel
January 4, 2018 8:44 pm

I hate all these new vehicles.

Instead of airbags, there should be a big spike in the center of the steering wheel.

The roads would be much safer than all the current “safety features”, and a lot less crowded.

Dr. Doom
Dr. Doom
January 4, 2018 10:02 pm

Safety is an excuse. Control is the real reason. Automobile fatalities have RISEN since the goobermint got involved. those seatbelts, airbags and crumple zones hide the danger put there by the goobermint themselves. Its called “energy conservation” or Miles per Gallon. Its made the HARD DURABLE AUTOMOBILES INTO TINFOIL. Remember “Back to the Future” where Doc Brown comments that Biff Tannen’s 1950s automobile will tear through his Stainless Steel DeLorean like TINFOIL? Its not just the DeLorean. Its all the cheap recycled steel tinfoil cars. Its CHEAP to make. It makes the DONOR CLASS BILLIONS. Thousands DIE every year for that PROFIT MARGIN. The MARGIN isn’t safety, Boyo.

ITS BLOOD MONEY.

Rdawg
Rdawg
  Dr. Doom
January 4, 2018 11:07 pm

“Automobile fatalities have RISEN since the goobermint got involved.”

Misleading. The absolute number of fatalities has increased, it’s true: about 20,000 per year in 1925 to about 35,000 in 2016, with the highest levels reaching over 50,000 per year in the late 60s when seatbelt mandates took effect.

But consider a different metric: deaths per 100 million vehicle miles travelled (VMT). This factors in the increased number of people and cars on our roads. The number of deaths has dropped from about 25 per 100 million VMT in 1925 to about 2 per 100 million VMT in 2015.

Mad as hell
Mad as hell
  Dr. Doom
January 5, 2018 10:15 am

That is an EXCELLENT point, and can be translated in to about a dozen other things you see now – for the earth – environment etc. For example, have you seen the thing in the hotels where they put the little paper showing that housekeeping will not come every day to clean – because the Marriott is “green”. What a load of shit. The corporations, just a few short years ago, had no problem dumping waste products in to the bay, throwing industrial waste in to landfills, using as much electricity as they wanted, when they wanted, etc. until all of a sudden a gaggle of “consultants” told these CEO’s, that thanks to Al Gore and Leo (I fly a private jet everywhere – for the earth) DeCaprio it was trendy to make inferior products, fire some housekeeping staff, make cars of inferior materials etc. – FOR THE GODDAMN EARTH. And us sheeple, we fell for it, hook line and sinker.
Now, we almost expect less service, flimsier products, worse performance (like a front load washing machine that leaks like an old paper cup, with detergent that barely cleans) and a higher cost – because it is “environmentally responsible” – translation: virtue signaling opportunity for some Twatter followers. What a load of shit….
Actual EFFICIENCY and safety is what matters. If you can build a car out of carbon fiber materials, that is stronger, and of a lighter weight, with BETTER safety through good engineering, that is one thing, but MOST of the products I have seen peddled under this new “Green” nonsense, is just an inferior design / lower quality product being peddled as “better” and “environmentally conscious” . Of course, that works nowadays, as the average person has no reference for what an actual high quality product would be….

Aquapura
Aquapura
  Dr. Doom
January 5, 2018 10:49 am

Tinfoil? Who cares what the skin is, it’s the engineering of the frame underneath that matters. Modern cars are designed to crumple and absorb the force of the impact. Your 1950’s vehicle surely was not. I’ll take my chances in ANY 2018 model car in a 40 mph front impact over anything from 50 years ago. In the modern car you’ll walk away, in the classic you are crippled or dead. That is fact.

TS
TS
January 4, 2018 10:26 pm

I’m with Dr. Doom. The base of every single thing that goes on is all about control. Those wanting to control, and those wanting to not be controlled. I think Purewater missed the whole point; insurance companies could mandate, but then that is free market (ideally) and we would be free to choose whatever ins. did or did not mandate that. The State has no business in this, except that which ALL States do – control.
Of course, as my Pappy used to say back in the day; the only difference between us and the Soviets is that we get to bitch about it. And that era is quickly coming to an end. So, basically, as we stare at the cards as they drift down like a slo-mo blizzard, we vent and keep stackin’ the ammo. Or, as in my case, emphasis is on getting ready for Eternity. ‘Cos that’s coming sooner rather than later.

rhs jr
rhs jr
January 4, 2018 10:48 pm

I’d put some betting money on a 1955 Chevy Bel Air vs a 2017 Ford Fiesta (both about $20,000). My first 1955 didn’t come with seat belts but I bought a pair from a parts store for a few dollars and installed them in a hour. After we crash the two cars, I also bet I can repair the 1955 for about $1,000 and the Ford will about $10,000. Any Auto-body Man out there got a professional comment?

rhs jr
rhs jr
January 4, 2018 11:16 pm

I have written here before that I’d rather buy a basic car like a Triumph TR-6, 55 Chevy, 57 T-Bird etc, than anything being made today and I don’t understand why somebody doesn’t just start making some oldies but goodies updated with electronic ignition, fuel injection, air bags etc.

Dr. Doom
Dr. Doom
  rhs jr
January 4, 2018 11:37 pm

Those cars cannot get the MPG the goobermint requires. These aluminum foil go carts are so light they crumple around trees and dent from an errant shopping cart. Those ridiculous “fuel economy” regs make anything heavier than a welfare land whale into a “LUXURY VEHICLE”. That’s a highly regulated and expensive category for stuff like those Stretch Limos or Hummers. That’ll add way too much cost for the WORKING MAN. And that’s pretty much the WHOLE POINT.

Hollywood Rob
Hollywood Rob
January 5, 2018 12:19 am
starfcker
starfcker
  Hollywood Rob
January 5, 2018 5:48 am

Thanks Rob, that’s a great little video

rhs jr
rhs jr
  Hollywood Rob
January 6, 2018 12:56 am

Hollywood, thanks; I yield.

Rdawg
Rdawg
  rhs jr
January 6, 2018 1:02 am

RHS,
Get that ’55 if you want; just do it with open eyes. 60+ years of engineering has accounted for some improvement, you know?

Desertrat
Desertrat
January 5, 2018 11:05 am

The g loads on crumple car occupants is less than for occupants of the “good old days” cars.

Federal mandates for such as safety bumpers add weight, which leads to the use of thinner metal in the body panels in an effort to offset the penalty. Ancillary pollution control items are not weightless, either. Plus the additive minor items like power windows and seats. For a given external size, cars are heavier than in the past–which creates a fuel economy problem.

I learned to drive in a 1935 Dodge and then a 1940 Packard. US Army jeeps of the 1950s weren’t the world’s safest vehicles, for that matter. Then came fun toys like a 350 hp Austin-Healey and then a 427 Camaro. Nothing like 150 mph from my own efforts, back in the 1960s. 🙂 In the 1970s, 200 mph on a race track kept the adrenalin flowing.

“Practice defensive driving, but do it faster!” 😀

So, to a great extent, I go along with Mr. Peters.

Dr. Doom
Dr. Doom
January 5, 2018 11:26 am

What the Hell is a g load? Are you talking about inertia?
MPG is governed by weight. Heavier cars get less gas mileage.

Rdawg
Rdawg
  Dr. Doom
January 6, 2018 12:10 am

G-loads are forces resulting from acceleration, measured in multiples of gravitational acceleration.

I think you’ve embarrassed yourself enough on this thread; you should move on.