Public Perception of Geo-Engineering and Solar Radiation Management

Guest Post by Hardscrabble Farmer

So chemtrails aren’t real, but Harvard just completed a study on what people think about altering the weather to fix global warming/cooling and are gratified that most of them are in favor of what they aren’t doing.

https://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/12763597/53098873.pdf?sequence=1

Abstract

We report the results of the first large-scale international survey of public perception of geoengineering and solar radiation management (SRM). Our sample of 3105 individuals in the United States, Canada and the United Kingdom was recruited by survey firms that administer internet surveys to nationally representative population samples. Measured familiarity was higher than expected, with 8% and 45% of the population correctly defining the terms geoengineering and climate engineering respectively. There was strong support for allowing the study of SRM. Support decreased and uncertainty rose as subjects were asked about their support for using SRM immediately, or to stop a climate emergency. Support for SRM is associated with optimism about scientific research, a valuing of SRM’s benefits and a stronger belief that SRM is natural, while opposition is associated with an attitude that nature should not be manipulated in this way. The potential risks of SRM are important drivers of public perception with the most salient being damage to the ozone layer and unknown risks. SRM is a new technology and public opinions are just forming; thus all reported results are sensitive to changes in framing, future information on risks and benefits, and changes to context.

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Gilnut
Gilnut
April 26, 2018 2:44 pm

Nature is a huge interconnected system far beyond our understanding. Unintended consequences are a bitch.

Luminae
Luminae
April 26, 2018 2:47 pm

…I think they left out the part about studying the effects of gamma rays on man in the moon marigolds…

…watched Good Will Hunting again the other day…great movie….worth a rewatch now and then….

”buzzing” Haahvaahd Wankers.

bigfoot
bigfoot
April 26, 2018 2:58 pm

Who in the world authorized geoengineering? Did a bill pass? Are the EPA bureaurats responsible? Or is it the Russians, Soros, Muslims, Assad, MS-13, illegal immigrants, Al Gore, transsexuals, SJW’s, the MSM, feminazi’s, Progressives, and/or the Pope? Elon Musk, maybe. Bill Gates? Ah, follow the money! The Rothschilds.

I dunno, has Harvard done us a favor do you think, HSF? It’s be the first in a while.

Vodka
Vodka
April 26, 2018 3:13 pm

The abstract of the “study” has all the clarity of a Freshman English composition assignment that was composed 20 minutes before it was due. And no doubt it was funded with Federal dollars.

splurge
splurge
  Vodka
April 26, 2018 7:30 pm

High School frosh writing on the bus to school

JIMSKI
JIMSKI
April 26, 2018 3:25 pm

So out of a combined population of 5oo million people we asked

Wait for it.

3105 people.

Man what an exhaustive study that was.
Pulse of the world you have.
No stone unturned.

Slow news day?

Fyi last american idle vote tally

Hollywood Rob
Hollywood Rob
April 26, 2018 4:30 pm

You should really read the paper. I know it’s hard, but it doesn’t say what you think it says.

As discussions about the wisdom of research into SRM
or its eventual deployment continue, researchers and policy
makers can no longer assume that the public is unaware
of SRM. Our survey data suggest that public awareness of
geoengineering is larger than expected, and growing.
It
also suggests: (1) scientists are considered a trusted source
of information but governments are not; (2) perception of
the risks of SRM will likely play a central role in shaping
opinions about its development; (3) support for SRM is
associated with an optimism about research, a valuing of
SRM’s benefits and a belief that SRM is natural, whereas
skepticism of it is associated with a belief that nature should
not be manipulated; and finally, (4) public opinion on SRM
is strongly contingent on how, where and in what context
SRM is discussed. Incorporating these findings into research
and communication efforts will increase the likelihood that the
public will be effectively engaged in the SRM discussion, and
help us all grapple with how to proceed with future climate
change policy.

Luminae
Luminae
  Hollywood Rob
April 27, 2018 7:31 am

We are entering a solar minimum. The sun is blank. That means it’s getting colder. Read my lips….colder.

An environmental policy, SRM, etc. Is nothing more than code for ”keep the grant money flowing”.

The only policy needed is this one: ”Stock up on warmer clothes.”

Wankers….

steve
steve
April 26, 2018 4:32 pm

Massive increase in Aluminum parts per million on the land, don’t forget barium and strontium. Assholes are altering life on earth. Good news is the earth will survive. The ol’ gal has faced everything the cosmos and her own innards have thrown at her and is still spinning. She’ll survive the current plague of locusts called humans, too.

IluvCO2
IluvCO2
  steve
April 26, 2018 5:48 pm

Hence the dramatic rise in Alzheimer’s. That and the same shit in your deodorant.

diogenes
diogenes
April 26, 2018 4:36 pm

As someone pointed out on this website, It is called Atomospheric Aerosol Injections and they have been doing it for years. Anyone who doesn’t see them, Try looking up for a change. Also as Steve said above,
the soil is being polluted with aluminum.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  diogenes
April 26, 2018 11:15 pm

Stratospheric

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
April 26, 2018 4:59 pm

Shill, David Keith from Harvard, asked questions by Dane Wiggington almost 10 years ago!!!
Wake up and LOOK up!

Stratospheric aerosol spraying programs in every NATO country!
In conjunction with NEXRAD, GWEN TOWERS AND HAARP = man made weather patterns!

JIMSKI
JIMSKI
April 26, 2018 5:01 pm

Leads right to here

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
April 26, 2018 5:09 pm

I liked how they were able to remove 7% of the respondents from the survey if they were able to identify them as having learned about SRM/geo-engineering via the Internet. They were only interested in the opinions of people who got their information via MSM sources.

Odd, no?

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
  hardscrabble farmer
April 26, 2018 5:41 pm

More disturbing is how search results have been filtered.
When I searched for ROSALIND PETERSON, founder of California sky watch, the 1st result was for a metabunk video of Rosalind supposedly denying the existence of chemtrails, which I’d you watch the video isn’t even true. A gross misrepresentation of a dead woman’s life long work!
She coined the phrase “PERSISTENT JET CONTRAILS ”
Her and Dane Wiginton have done alot of great work!
Here is Mrs. Peterson addressing the United Nations on the topic of geo engineering

IluvCO2
IluvCO2
April 26, 2018 5:46 pm

Well, since in the near future only MSM sources will be available, not so weird.

kokoda the Deplorable Raccoon and I-LUV-CO2
kokoda the Deplorable Raccoon and I-LUV-CO2
April 26, 2018 5:48 pm

Besides the number surveyed, it is the exact questions that are asked that are the most important.

Hear about the 97% of scientists belief in global Warming (CAGW). If am 100 % denier in CAGW.
However, one of the questions asked on the 97% study was ‘Does human generated CO2 have an effect on the temperature of the planet’. I would have answered YES.

They didn’t qualify the question (on purpose).

If the question was phrased: ‘Does human generated CO2 have a significant or appreciable effect on the temperature of the planet’? – I would have answered NO.

Human generated CO2 is insignificant to the temperature of planet earth. No one has proven otherwise.

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
April 26, 2018 5:59 pm

In Osage county, Ok., where my father-in-law was laid to rest (life long ranch hand for land owners that were tied in to Philips 66 beginnings) you can do a 360 turn and not see a tree. I came up in the flatland call Kansas- point being that our whole lives we lived where there was ‘nothing but sky’ to look at.

We didn’t need some ‘disclosure’, nor a ‘study’ to see that something was changing about the tracks jets were leaving. My last 25 yrs. has been, for lack of better words, a journey to find out what the Truth was about many different changes that were happening-seen with our own eyes. Then my wife showed me how to use a search engine on the internet, which may have resulted in as many more questions as it did answers. None the less, I came across geoengineeringwatch.org ran by that Dane Wiggington mentioned by Platoplubius above….they the Air Force white papers “Owning the weather by 2025”.
We were seeing it with our own eyes, and the info found on the internet seems to be detailed and logical explanations. The MSM are absolute script readers, offering no details on any damn thing ! I tend to have the boob tube on just to monitor what kind of propaganda is on the menu for each day.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
April 26, 2018 6:21 pm

The curious part of this has always been- for me at least- that the solution to man-made global climate change is man-made global climate change. To fix a possible one degree rise in temperatures caused by CO2 humans put into the lower atmosphere we will fill the upper atmosphere with sulfur dioxide in order cause a possible drop of one degree.

It’s a kind of delusional whackjobbery you never used to see 50 years ago and now it’s a done deal.

IluvCO2
IluvCO2
  hardscrabble farmer
April 26, 2018 6:31 pm

Holy shit, here we are going into the next solar minimum ice age and we are trying to make the world colder. CO2 is needed by every plant on the planet. That’s why they produce it in greenhouses. I’ve got to cut and split more wood…

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
  hardscrabble farmer
April 27, 2018 11:20 pm

This is just the anthropocentrism natural to humans. Whether we believe in gods or science, most of us think it’s all about us. Termites think it’s all about termites.

“delusional whackjobbery you never used to see 50 years ago”.
Well, that would be the nuclear power too cheap to meter, wouldn’t it?? And never ever dealing with the issue of nuclear waste with anything approaching seriousness.

There are plenty of extremely smart whackjobs out there. A lot of them are working on genetic modifications (’cause we know how well that works out) to allow plants and possibly humans to survive droughts and the inevitable release of untold amounts of radiation due to the eventual failure of all the nuke plants*. Look up “tardigrades” for much hopefulness on that front.

*Grid failure, sea-level rise, financial and political collapse, or a combination thereof will leave these structures abandoned. Fukushima has already essentially destroyed the Pacific and will never be gotten under control. Now multiply that times 450 or so, probably with some nice steamy explosions as the corium sets the ground water boiling.

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It’s not a one-degree possible rise. It’s already almost two.
https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/
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kokoda the Deplorable Raccoon and I-LUV-CO2
kokoda the Deplorable Raccoon and I-LUV-CO2
April 26, 2018 8:24 pm

Climate Cash – thats what we want and we want it NOW

Maldives Environment Minister Thoriq Ibrahim has warned that unless the Maldives gets its climate cash before 2020, the 1.5C global warming limit will be breached.

Thoriq is so stupid he thinks people will believe his utter nonsense.

kokoda the Deplorable Raccoon and I-LUV-CO2
kokoda the Deplorable Raccoon and I-LUV-CO2
April 26, 2018 8:43 pm

Breaking News: Hank Johnson interview with HuffPo says he is concerned that if the Maldives doesn’t get its Klimate Kash, it will Tip Over due to GloBull Warming

Rossa
Rossa
April 27, 2018 3:51 am

What do we do when global cooling happens is the one question no climate change supporter can answer. I have repeatedly asked people I know who support AGW what their 97% of ‘experts’ say we should do when the next ice age arrives. Assuming we spend trillions reducing CO2, do we then put back all the CO2 we’ve removed? How? Burn a lot more fossil fuel to re-gas the atmosphere? Usually all I get is the blank face, rabbit in the headlights look.

Probably too late for SRM anyway as the planet is already ahead of us. MSM isn’t reporting on the latest data from NASA and GISS, that shows global temp down by 0.56c in the last two years.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/26/delingpole-earth-in-greatest-two-year-cooling-event-in-a-century-shock/

Funny how some humans think they can control the climate and the Sun’s output, then discover they can’t.

KeyserSusie
KeyserSusie
April 27, 2018 2:05 pm

I saw a chem trail last month. It was a giant circle 30-40 miles across, with a Q slash mark. It was positioned just South of me, over the GOM. I remarked to my son it looked like a giant Q. I kid you not.

I do not see evidence of anything different from days long gone. I have lived near AFB’s all my life. Burn hydrocarbons and you get water and CO2. Water vapor… My SAC pilot father said that’s why you see contrails. And said he would inject water into the fuel at times. All the ones I see look normal, including the intermittent trails seen on you tube vids. Yes there are more of them than 50 years ago. And yes I believe the reflectivity could be relevant even without intentional formation augmented with chemicals and particulate matter.

There is no doubt much research/experiments are being carried out.

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
April 27, 2018 11:51 pm

The cooling experienced in parts of the US and Europe is due to the jet stream being fucked up since the Arctic is no longer particularly cold (above-freezing temps mid-winter).

The sea ice this winter did not really re-grow as per usual, despite the North Pole being in total darkness… so that pretty much eliminates any possibility of *any* degree of global dimming, intentional or unintentional, ever reversing the melting process underway.

This is a really big deal, by the way.
Latent heat is going to make what is already abrupt climate change even abrupter.
Latent heat is all the heat that we don’t actually experience because it is being used up in the phase-change process of turning ice at 0 degrees C into water at 0 degrees C. Once there’s no more ice, that 80 calories per gram of ice will now raise the water 80 degrees C per gram instead. Oh, and there’ll be a lot more water vapor then, too, and that also has a greenhouse effect.

The contribution of human activity to global warming has been known for over a hundred years: https://history.aip.org/climate/timeline.htm

There is no “putting the carbon back”.

Civilization is a heat engine:

Is Global Warming Unstoppable?

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1010.0428v3.pdf

“Garrett says his study’s key finding “is that accumulated economic production over the course of history has been tied to the rate of energy consumption at a global level through a constant factor.”

That “constant” is 9.7 (plus or minus 0.3) milliwatts per inflation-adjusted 1990 dollar. So if you look at economic and energy production at any specific time in history, “each inflation-adjusted 1990 dollar would be supported by 9.7 milliwatts of primary energy consumption,” Garrett says.

Garrett tested his theory and found this constant relationship between energy use and economic production at any given time by using United Nations statistics for global GDP (gross domestic product), U.S. Department of Energy data on global energy consumption during1970-2005, and previous studies that estimated global economic production as long as 2,000 years ago. Then he investigated the implications for carbon dioxide emissions.

“Economists think you need population and standard of living to estimate productivity,” he says. “In my model, all you need to know is how fast energy consumption is rising. The reason why is because there is this link between the economy and rates of energy consumption, and it’s just a constant factor.”

Garrett adds: “By finding this constant factor, the problem of [forecasting] global economic growth is dramatically simpler. There is no need to consider population growth and changes in standard of living because they are marching to the tune of the availability of energy supplies.”

To Garrett, that means the acceleration of carbon dioxide emissions is unlikely to change soon because our energy use today is tied to society’s past economic productivity.

“Viewed from this perspective, civilization evolves in a spontaneous feedback loop maintained only by energy consumption and incorporation of environmental matter,” Garrett says. It is like a child that “grows by consuming food, and when the child grows, it is able to consume more food, which enables it to grow more.”