Iran Threatened To Name Politicians Who Took BRIBES To Pass Nuclear Deal

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President Trump announced early this week that the US will withdraw from the deceptive Iranian nuclear deal. President Trump made his position on the terrible Iran deal clear during his 2016 campaign.

This didn’t stop former Secretary of State John Kerry from acting as a rogue government agent against the Trump administration, in order to redeem the lame deal with the oppressive Iranian regime.

Many have referred to this as “Shadow diplomacy,” we prefer to call it treason.

The President was quick to call Kerry out:

During his speech to the NRA, Trump criticized Kerry for his fundamental role in negotiating the Iran deal.

“We have the former administration as represented by John Kerry, not the best negotiator we’ve ever seen,” Trump stated. “He never walked away from the table, except to be in that bicycle race where he fell and broke his leg.”

Naturally, the Iranian regime is extremely upset with President Trump and his decision to re-impose a great number of sanctions on Iran.

Here’s where it gets good…

Iran’s Foreign Ministry Spokesman Hossein Jaberi Ansari has just warned Western politicians that if they do not put pressure on the Trump administration the Iranian regime will leak the names of all officials who accepted bribes to pass the disastrous deal in the first place!

Stay tuned, and grab the popcorn!

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Crawfisher
Crawfisher
May 13, 2018 7:38 am

I hope this is real and not fake news. Would love to see the list of politicians owned by Iran.

Pet Goy Donald
Pet Goy Donald
  Crawfisher
May 13, 2018 8:50 am

That list is a lot smaller than the list of US politicians owned by Israel. Trump is a pathetic boy goy toy

Alfred1860
Alfred1860
  Pet Goy Donald
May 14, 2018 10:07 am

Hilarious. Now TBPers are pretending that Israel doesn’t have de facto control of Congress and the Senate? Really???? Sure, Iran may well have made some bribes, but they don’t have an entire entrenched media/think tank/NGO apparatus to do it, and their leaders don’t have the red carpet rolled out for them when they come to town with their to do list.

Hollow Man
Hollow Man
May 13, 2018 8:34 am

Iran going to do is this favor cause their mad. Sweet!!

Chosen goy
Chosen goy
  Hollow Man
May 13, 2018 8:52 am

This is incoherent babble representing the brainwashed masses

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 13, 2018 9:04 am

I wish they would do instead of threaten to do.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
May 13, 2018 10:57 am

This requires fixing…

Oppressive American regime Strongman Donald Trump announced early this week that the US will withdraw from the Iranian nuclear deal. Trump made his position on the Iran deal clear during his 2016 campaign after receiving millions of dollars from uber Israeli-first casino magnate Sheldon Adelson.

This didn’t stop former Secretary of State John Kerry from acting as against the rogue Trump administration, in order to redeem a deal with the Iranian government that is clearly in America’s best interests.

Many have referred to this as “Shadow diplomacy,” we prefer to call him a true patriot in a den of traitors.

Levi
Levi
  Zarathustra
May 13, 2018 1:07 pm

Kerry is Rogue.
Did The People vote Kerry into a position to negotiate on America’s behalf?
Was he elected to negotiate deals in 2018?
How about 2019?
An non elected official negotiating American foreign policy is insane and borderline Sedition.

The Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953, enacted January 30, 1799) is a United States federal law that criminalizes negotiation by unauthorized persons with foreign governments having a dispute with the United States.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
  Levi
May 13, 2018 2:41 pm

Oh, NOW you care about law. Hilarious.

Hammer's Thor
Hammer's Thor
  Zarathustra
May 13, 2018 1:32 pm

Zarathustra – some might call you (myself included) a traitor in a den of Americans.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
  Hammer's Thor
May 13, 2018 2:35 pm

People like you should be sodomized with a knife shaped like Israel.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Zarathustra
May 13, 2018 10:18 pm

ouch–

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
May 13, 2018 1:33 pm

Note the dates. Future proves the past.

Looks like in the event that Iranistan doesn’t get their payola from Uncle Sugar, it’s time for those other noble “signatories” (that never actually signed anything) to pony up some serious hush money. We’re about to find out if Zarathustra is right about Iran being able to get what they need from those noble “signatories”. Muh Iran Deal! It’s all about da Benjamins. The rats continue to turn on each other…….globally even.

Also, Top UN Nuclear inspector abruptly resigned.

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IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
  IndenturedServant
May 13, 2018 1:52 pm

No other place to stick this:

All the budget and debt concerns start to look puny when you consider the $500 BILLION from Muh Iran Deal that won’t be going to Iranistan now. That’s half a TRILLION $$$ right there. Add in this news, posted by an anon on 8chan, about the $100 BILLION + (some say our cut was TWO BILLION) we no longer pay for the Paris Climate accord that Trump also withdrew the USA from (ER MUH GERD!!! MUH CLIMATE!!!) and you’re starting to talk about REAL FUCKING MONEY! That’s damn near three quarters of a TRILLION dollars NOT being spent on just two deals alone. Before the end of Trumps second year he will likely have saved the USA more money than he ever spent.

Just wait until he starts seizing and spending the assets that Executive Order allows him to. All those Trusts, Foundations “Charities” etc. How many millions did Felonia just bilk New Zealand out of for the CF this week? All that are belong to us now.

Enjoy the show. All About the Benjamins episode.

Begin anon post:
Remember the oh so important Paris Climate Change Accord from a year ago that ‘rich’ countries was supposed to pay $100billion a year and the USA was to pay the most of it? Well, they just met in Germany again for 2 weeks and it ended in a complete bust. Apparently they are having trouble coming up with the many billions of dollars that they were hoping to steal from America taxpayers to pay for it. It turns out that none of the other ‘rich’ countries want to pony up the difference. The UN was supposed to control that money, which means it was supposed to be another globalist slush fund (courtesy of our tax dollars).

This Paris Accord was another international agreement that Hessein had commited the USA to with no input or consent from Congress. Initially, it was a treaty—which requires senate ratification. But Hussein knew he never would have gotten that approval from the senate before he left office and the fucker was so intent on entangking the USA into the agreement that he did a work-around and got them to change the document from a ‘treaty’ to an ‘accord’. His last rendevouz with all the globalist Climate Change millionaires and billionaires and world leaders was at the 2016 conference which was followed by a swish cocktail party in one of the most expensive venues in Paris. This was right after a Muslim terrorist had just shot up the place and killed a lot of people in Paris. Despite the brutal terror attacks that were happening all over Europe one after another, Obama announced to the media that the greatest threat to the world at the time was Climate change. Not one word of condolence for the terror victims. This was many months before the US election. They climate change folks were in good spirits at that cocktail party because they were very sure that Hillary was going to win, and the $100 billion that they were going to be robbing from us every year was in the bag.

But Hillary didn’t win. And President Trump went to Europe and told them all to fuck off.

Now China just stuck them with an excuse and has walked back its commitment to the agreement too. The Chinese aren’t stupid, they’re not paying that $100 billion. There is nowhere else for them to get that money from and I suspect that others will quietly back out of the deal too because none of them have $100 billion to spare. Angela Merkel and Macron were mad when POTUS pulled us out of this Paris Accord and she swore that the rest of the world would find a way to make up the amount after the USA left. But talk is always cheap, isn’t it? Yet more proof that these mofos cannot do without us, no matter how much they run their mouths. And, yet another reason why Trump as president of the USA scares the shit out of all of them.

I would bet money that after this they won’t have this conference again. First the Paris deal, then the Iran deal. Thank God for president Trump!

http:// http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2018/05/12/12-may-18-world-view-climate-change-conference-collapses-as-china-backs-down-from-emission-commitments/

Administrator
Administrator
  IndenturedServant
May 13, 2018 2:01 pm

We add $3 billion to the national debt every day. The $500 billion will be pissed away in 6 months of “normal” government operation.

I’d love to know what all you people who don’t worry about the debt were thinking in June of 2008. I’d bet the ranch you were saying the exact same thing.

The debt won’t matter until it matters.

You live your life without debt for a good reason, but you think a country can add as much debt as possible with no consequences.

You devalue your commentary by being so obtuse.

Muh Q

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
  Administrator
May 13, 2018 2:35 pm

When is your future gonna prove the past? You (and I) along with many others have been predicting Muh Mother of all Economic Collapses for how many years now? Where the fuck is it? Hell, the fucking MSM isn’t even squeaking about economy or debt. I don’t know or understand the fucking economic side of things. Muh Gold Window concern fags have been predicting the end since 1971, nearly 50 fucking years! You and most TBP’ers have been predicting it for more than a decade. Perhaps the rest of the world holds so much debt that it’s simply not practical or even possible to burn it to the ground anymore?

I’m intentionally over to top obtuse. It helps point out the absurdity of the chicken littles running hither and yon.

It’s interesting how both you and Q always have an answer that that doesn’t ever appear to materialize huh? I wonder which will eventually be right?

“I’d love to know what all you people who don’t worry about the debt were thinking in June of 2008. I’d bet the ranch you were saying the exact same thing.”

I moved our 401(k)s into all cash positions, stepped aside and saved 40-60% or avoided losing it anyway. I was pretty sure it was going to implode. I’ve continued to build wealth and enjoy pay raises and bonuses every year since then thinking it was going to implode with every Fed meeting.

Apparently there is quite a bit that NONE of us KNOWS or understands about this.

Administrator
Administrator
  IndenturedServant
May 13, 2018 6:36 pm

I picture you in 1937 saying all is well. The Great Depression is over. My stocks have been going up since 1932 and I’m up 400%. I think this guy Hitler is doing a great job reviving the German economy. I don’t see how anything can go wrong. I’m so optimistic about the future. All these DOOMsayers like Winston Churchill have been wrong for a decade. That would be you halfway through the last Fourth Turning.

Sounds exactly like you halfway through this Fourth Turning. The catalysts of debt, global disorder and civic decay are getting worse by the day. Let me know when Q and Trump are able to reverse that worsening.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
  Administrator
May 13, 2018 7:27 pm

I won’t have to let you know. You’ll recognize it for yourself. Or maybe not.

Your taxes are lower, your health insurance didn’t double or triple again. Soros is no longer financing SJW’s and their attempts to control our college campuses, (yeah, nobody reporting on that), Saudi Arabia is no longer financing democrats running for election, NK is going nuke free and offering to prove it even before POTUS meets win Un, NK and SK are re-uniting, an unimaginable number of known deep state rats are voluntarily resigning their positions or refusing to run again, the corrupt FBI is about to have their asses handed to them. We’re no longer pumping BILLIONS into Iran or the Climate deal, TPP never happened, NAFTA is being renegotiated. Many people, including me, are no longer seeing Chemtrails in our skies.

What will make you happy? Collapse? No Collapse? War? No war? How are you materially, in fact or in reality worse off than you were on January 19th, 2o16? I know your stated purpose is to educate and inform. Apart from that we wait to see what reality is going to be. You voted for the right guy even if you can’t see it.

Administrator
Administrator
  IndenturedServant
May 13, 2018 7:37 pm

My taxes went up with the Trump tax plan. But at least JP Morgan’s went down. Thank god for that.

You and I both want the Deep State brought down. You do realize the Federal Reserve, Wall Street, the military industrial complex, and the mega-corporations are part of the Deep State? You do know the awesome stock market gains you have been crowing about were artificially created by the Federal Reserve/Wall Street traitors? You do know if Trump succeeds in bringing down the Deep State, it will result in the financial collapse you are sure will never come?

How do you reconcile your views about fighting the Deep State and the fact our massive debts are what props up the Deep State?

I’m curious.

My happiness is of no consequence to what is going on in the world. My happiness is not dependent upon what Trump, Q, or Hillary does. My happiness is based upon my day to day interactions with family and friends. War and financial collapses have always existed and always will because human beings are flawed, greedy, hubristic, and stupid. If you think Trump can stop wars and financial collapses, you are more naive than I thought.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
  IndenturedServant
May 13, 2018 9:29 pm

Just a little factual correction. I’ve not been crowing about the stock market gains one bit. I’m not currently in the market. Except to point out that all the Er Muh Gerd 666 Point Drop hysteria would amount to nothing, I don’t think I’ve talked about the stock market. And yes, I recognize who the deep state is.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
  IndenturedServant
May 13, 2018 2:39 pm

Iran’s money is/was sitting frozen in banks. The banks earned interest from it. The taxpayers got jack shit. Please tell me you are smarter than to think it came out of the treasury, or is that too much to ask of a Qtipper?

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
  Zarathustra
May 13, 2018 3:03 pm

I’d appreciate seeing some links on the “It’s Iran’s Money To Begin With”. Not saying you’re wrong, I even think you’re right, but do you have some links? Is IRAN even making this argument?

So how about my question Zara? Are the other Iran deal signatories going to pony up the billion or more $ those benevolent Iranian leaders want to keep quiet?

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
  Zarathustra
May 13, 2018 3:16 pm

Yeah I like the source. I personally never disputed the money to begin with. Why isn’t IRAN making this argument for “their” money?

So what about the answer to my question? I’ve asked twice in this thread alone.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
  IndenturedServant
May 13, 2018 11:45 pm

Still, crickets from Zara.

Perhaps he’s just working late or knocking the bottom out of that Russian GF of his?

Administrator
Administrator
  IndenturedServant
May 13, 2018 2:02 pm

Should I be worried Q might commit suicide?

Who should I pray for?

I’m so confused.

Hammer's Thor
Hammer's Thor
  Administrator
May 13, 2018 2:19 pm

Don’t pray for anybody, because you have to have Faith for it to mean anything.

Administrator
Administrator
  Hammer's Thor
May 13, 2018 2:28 pm

What do you know about my Faith?

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
  Administrator
May 13, 2018 2:49 pm

Continue to PRAY for DOOM I guess. It seems to bring you comfort or at least as sense of purpose.

Administrator
Administrator
  IndenturedServant
May 13, 2018 6:23 pm

When I was a child, I acted like a child. As an adult, I put aside childish ways. Regressing to hoping for miracles must bring you a false sense of comfort.

Can’t wait for those pedophile fortunes to pay off the national debt.

Dealing with reality is for adults.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
  Administrator
May 13, 2018 7:43 pm

I take great pride in still being able to engage my child-like side. It’s the source of my never ending curiosity about all things including reality, facts, doom and hope. It’s where my imagination and desire to do good comes from. If cold reality and facts were my only companions I’d have broken bad decades ago and been all out of ammo by now.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
  Administrator
May 13, 2018 3:08 pm

Admin, the part I don’t get is that if DOOM was/is our ONLY fucking option then why the hell would you vote for Trump? Why not vote for Hillary who everyone seems to agree would have brought about the DOOM so much faster? Why not get the fucking collapse out of the way? Why vote for someone who might slow down the arrival of DOOM?

If you truly envisioned that Trump *might* have helped us avoid the DOOM, how do you envision he might have done that?

I’m genuinely curious?

Administrator
Administrator
  IndenturedServant
May 13, 2018 6:19 pm

I won’t play by your rules. By calling reality and facts DOOM, you attempt to make anyone who talks about the immense debt and $200 trillion of unfunded liabilities as a purveyor of DOOM. That is completely untrue. I’m curious how an intelligent person who lives their life debt free could be so nonchalant about a financial situation which is unfixable at this point without a complete collapse of the financial system.

Calling facts and reality DOOM is a childish naive obtuse way of arguing your point of view.

I voted for Trump because I agreed with some of his views. I agreed with none of Hillary’s views. It’s that simple.

The election of either person did not change the $20 trillion national debt or $200 trillion of unfunded liabilities.

I don’t do cheerleader very well. You have clearly chosen to ignore facts and reality and believe some dude called Q and a reality TV star have it all figured out and will make no miscalculations or create any unintended consequences.

Has your curiosity been satisfied?

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
  Administrator
May 13, 2018 7:38 pm

I haven’t ignored anything. What do the immense debt and $200 Trillion in unfunded liabilities portend? Economic, political, social doom are the only possible outcomes right? In your view Trump is only making things worse so what does reality tell us about the future? Wine and roses? Doom? A little of both?

My curiosity is never satisfied. It’s what has kept me here, always reading and staying informed. It’s what allows me to see the possibility and potential of events like Q.

Administrator
Administrator
  IndenturedServant
May 13, 2018 7:52 pm

Nothing positive can happen when the $200 trillion of unfunded social welfare promises are defaulted upon by the government. Trump would have my full support if or when he addresses this looming crisis in any worthwhile way. So far, crickets. He’s done as much on addressing our fiscal situation as he has in building the WALL. Ignoring the debts is not a solution. Leaving the problem to future generations is despicable. It may not bother you, since you have no children who will be affected. I do.

When reality is treated as DOOM, then there is no room for debate. You don’t want to hear about facts, so it is useless to discuss it with you. Your open mind is closed to facts, reality and basic math.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
  Administrator
May 13, 2018 8:30 pm

My mind is closed to nothing except butt sex or anything that involves a penis other than my own. I have to draw the line somewhere!

I don’t disagree with what history teaches as the outcome of poorly managed fiat currency. The debt and unfunded liabilities are problems I admit. What do you see as the trigger for dollar collapse in our current world?

Q has essentially pointed us to a method by which Trump might address it. All you can do is poo poo that. Go read that EO from december 20th. It gives the President the power to seize the assets of individuals and *entities* who are convicted of human trafficking in any form or if those individuals are guilty of conspiring to harm our economy.

Think about the deeper meaning of that. Think of the all rats and all the shell companies and trusts and foundations and think tanks plus all of the billionaires that are involved in exactly those activities. All of it is money that was essentially stolen from future generations.

How is it inconceivable to address the potential of using those assets to at least BEGIN to fix the problem? Do you not see ANY potential here? Why would he even sign and EO like that?

I’ve offered a potential way to address the situation as Q has alluded to. Why won’t it work? Are there not enough rich people and rich entities involved in such things to make a dent in it? The Rothschild family alone probably has enough change in their fucking couch cushions to erase the debt. What if the FED itself is found complicit in harming our economy? There’s enough money there to put one hell of a dent in it. Bill gates, Suckerturd, Musk, Bezos are all uber rich globalist fucks who seek to undermine our economy and it’s a pretty good bet that one or all are involved in pedo activities as well.

Big banks like Golman Sachs and JPMC have enormous holdings and are corrupt as fuck.

Seriously, read that EO top to bottom if you haven’t already. There is enormous potential there. Why would Trump bother writing it if there isn’t now or about to be teeth behind it. I don’t think I’m the only one being obtuse here.

Administrator
Administrator
  IndenturedServant
May 13, 2018 8:41 pm

If Trump uses government power to seize the assets of all the evil Deep State fucks, they would crash the financial markets in response. The Wall Street banks have committed hundreds of blatant crimes. They pay fines totaling in the billions. It does nothing to cure our debt problem. I do not believe this EO will result in anything but nominal fines which will not do anything to help our financial situation. If we followed the law, the government would have made the Wall Street banks declare bankruptcy in 2009. Trump has proven to be a negotiator. He blusters and bluffs his opponents into a compromise. The language in that EO would mean he goes into an all-out open warfare with billionaires and mega-corporations. I don’t see it happening.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
  Administrator
May 13, 2018 8:56 pm

“If Trump uses government power to seize the assets of all the evil Deep State fucks, they would crash the financial markets in response. ”

Perhaps, just perhaps part of the reason this is taking so long AND part of the reason why it is so invisible is the fact that Trump already knows this and is working behind the scenes to remove the bad actors from power or to remove the kill switches from their hands to prevent this. That it was Q seems to be telling us.

We all expected Trump to just roll into town, start kicking asses and taking names. I think he’s smart enough to know that would be the worst thing he could do as it would result in exactly what you said above.

That’s why I asked you the other day in all seriousness, how would you dismantle the deep state if you were Trump? Would just go Terminator on the whole mess or be surgical about it?

It seems to me the only smart thing to do would be to use uncompromised departments of MI and NSA to quietly and systematically shut it down. That appears to be EXACTLY what is happening.

EDITED to add: Trump need not enter into an all out war with billionaires and megacorporations. All he has to do is let Sessions and friends quietly build cases against them, seal the indicments and wait for the right time to use Rule of Law to roll them up. All he has to do is wait for a conviction, seize the assets and let it play out 28,000+ times. It’s fucking brilliant in it’s simplicity. And everybody thinks Sessions is some do nothing puppy dog.

Administrator
Administrator
  IndenturedServant
May 13, 2018 9:08 pm

We both agree there is a battle going on between the Deep State and Trump. There are a lot more of them than him. JFK tried to fight the Deep State.

Assassination has at least as high a probability as Trump defeating the Deep State.

Conflict is inevitable. This process can’t be done without some sort of violent response.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
  Administrator
May 13, 2018 9:19 pm

I agree with everything you just said @9:08pm. Q told us quite some time ago that Kennedy and Reagan both tried to deep six the deep state. He also said that MI/NSA have learned a few tricks in the ensuing 35-56 years. They’ve been patiently watching and documenting their methods.

Trump assassination is about the only thing that does worry me. Perhaps that’s why he has his own private security, Marine Corp special operators and SS protecting him instead of just SS?

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
  Administrator
May 14, 2018 2:59 am

FM, I’m confident that spending will be reigned in. In addition to the end of the yearly outflow for the two deals Trump just removed us from, business is coming back the the US. Jobs are coming back. Trump don’t strike me as a welfare for the masses kind of a guy and the red-wave that’s coming in November will give way to big reduction in welfare spending. I believe he’ll help introduce realistic ways to pare down unfunded liabilities. Once the military is re-built I think military spending will plummet. Remember that we’ll no longer be financing the deep state.

I think a controlled demolition of our dollar will take place before being replaced by a valued based system.

Ultimately it will be up to us. I don’t think Trump is trying to remake America in his image. The goal is to give America back to it’s rightful owners as free men, not slaves to the deep state. That’s wear my confidence breaks down but I sure as hell want the chance.

Am I the only one who thinks it’s odd that no one is beating Trump up over his spending? I don’t even hear it in the MSM. Rational people like admin and others bring it up but his enemies are rather quiet on the subject.

Martin brundlefly
Martin brundlefly
May 13, 2018 1:33 pm

Show us the list of bribe takers!

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
May 13, 2018 8:04 pm

“Perhaps the rest of the world holds so much debt that it’s simply not practical or even possible to burn it to the ground anymore? ”

I said the above earlier in this thread and while rebuilding a section of fence I thought about it some more.

We all know that fiat currencies ALWAYS return to their intrinsic value of zero. That fact has held true on this rock more than 2000 times if history books are to be believed. However, in a world so financially interconnected, nearly the entire world holds massive amounts of dollars. I have to imagine that NONE of those nations has any desire to see their holdings, which they are REQUIRED to have in order to do business, revert to their intrinsic value. It seems to me that the entire world has a massive incentive to prevent that from happening. Is this why this interminable wait just keeps getting longer? No one can ever break away and decide to trade oil, wheat or rice for Euros, gold or sea shells because we will bomb them back to the stone age or impose such severe sanctions that it will ruin them.

So, what circumstances will bring about the end of our dollar. It’s near impossible to divest yourself of dollars or switch to something else instead how does it end? It seems to me that as long as the world community of importers and exporters are required to do business in dollars it’s going to take more than just printing more of them to kill the dollar.

Just going by math alone the dollar should have died long ago. Obviously other forces are at work here besides a printing press. Perhaps mandatory usage of the world reserve fiat currency is what gives it it’s longevity?

Back to rebuilding my fence now….

Administrator
Administrator
  IndenturedServant
May 13, 2018 8:27 pm

We had the worst financial collapse since the Great Depression in 2008/2009 when the dollar was the dominant world currency. Financial collapses will happen because of greed and human beings always going too far. China and Russia are actively working to make themselves less dependent upon the USD.

You make it sound like there is worldwide coordination of debt issuance. What you have described as a positive is a huge negative. Debt must be serviced. Interest and principle must be paid. If not, it results in a default. The game of extend and pretend can only work for so long. It’s exactly what happened in 2008. The realization that the holders of the debt could never pay it off led to panic selling. Once panic sets in, the house of cards crumbles rapidly.

Trust in the USD has nothing to do with debt going bad.

Go back to building your fence.

By the way – debating with you all day stopped me from writing my latest 30 Blocks article. Thanks.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
  Administrator
May 13, 2018 8:44 pm

I don’t think anyone has trust in the dollar. If trust was the only thing keeping it afloat it would have sank years ago. Something bigger is going on here.

There IS a defacto worldwide coordination of debt issuance. The Fed issues it and the rest of the fucking world is required to use it to such an extent that not doing so results in their own destruction. Look at Libya. Look at Iraq. They tried to leave the plantation and were left in ruins. China and Russia have been actively trying to divest themselves of dollars but if they do they’ll be cut off from world trade. Do you think flooding of US oil on world markets is helping or hurting Russia’s efforts to get away from the dollar? Destroy the dollar and China will lose it’s biggest economic driver…..the ‘Murican Consumer. Neither Russia or China can leave the plantation without destroying themselves in the process. We don’t even have to bomb them.

Seems like a big fiat stalemate to me.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
  Administrator
May 13, 2018 9:08 pm

“By the way – debating with you all day stopped me from writing my latest 30 Blocks article. Thanks.”

Well thanks for telling the monkeys that! Despite your best intentions, 30 Blocks articles are why most monkey’s tune in here! Now they’ll be calling for my head!

YourFutureCellmate
YourFutureCellmate
  IndenturedServant
May 13, 2018 10:41 pm

“My mind is closed to nothing except butt sex or anything that involves a penis other than my own. I have to draw the line somewhere!”
don’t be close minded indecent,i won’t thrust as hard as obama did–

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
  YourFutureCellmate
May 13, 2018 11:53 pm

Well during foreplay I’ll relieve you of your little thruster then.

Mark
Mark
May 13, 2018 10:25 pm

IndenturedServant – Administrator

Wow, just ran across this outstanding tennis match!

Will have to slow down and re-read this sharp-edged Musketeer sword fight!

One comment on something IS said. I am working my land hard…beautiful blue skies week after week lately…I have not seen a single Chemtrail in a while???

No more constant tic tack toe boards in the shy…is this noticed by others?

bigfoot
bigfoot
May 13, 2018 11:47 pm

I declare IS the winner by virtue of him delineating the “plan” while Admin only gave up his conclusion that nothing was being done to address the debt that increases whoever is in office.

In reality both are wrong. There’s no way to reduce the debt by taking possession of pedophile/corrupt money. A jillion lawyers will tie it all up and crooks have ways of hiding money anyway. If all the money were confiscated the markets/banks would collapse anyway as Admin said.

But to think Trump is going to try to right the debt ship is ludicrous! For one thing the debt is everywhere across the world and its all interconnected. It’s not tenable that one country, even the U.S., could over some years reduce its own debt to any degree that would compel other countries to do the same. Way, way too many unfunded obligations and budgets that in any current year scream out to be funded fully. So debt rises inexorably. It’s the political way. People get dependent on gov’t and gov’t grows and grows until it goes broke and the currency goes to zero.

So what is Trump doing? I think he is trying to get re-elected before things collapse. If he does not get re-elected he won’t have time to tank the deep state. If the world’s economy collapses, and it surely will as god made little green apples, before he gets re-elected the deep state will return with a vengeance. Totalitarianism will be upon us. If he does get re-elected and takes down the deep state before the economy collapses as it surely will, the reset will be sans deep state players and the world has a chance of regaining some liberty, maybe a lot of it.

I know lots of people think Trump is stupid, ignorant of whatever, narcissistic, looking for glory, and all that. Yet he wins time and again. Or have you not noticed? If not you have likely been blinded by your prejudices and the way you believe the world should be rather than simply seeing what is.

And a few more observations offered to those who think Israel has bought Trump. His banks thought they owned him. The mafia probably did. Epstein gave it a shot. He ran as a republican and owes them nothing. The Chinese blustered about a trade war and gave up in a week. NK got its ass kicked when a hundred of its nuclear engineers died in that mountain along with their test tubes. The libs in Paris are now scattered to the winds. NAFTA is not going to be what it was. The illegal immigrants are now called illegal immigrants and things are being done that were not done before. Gov. Moonbeam gave in for one. Trump reamed out his cabinet the other day about not enough is being done. What’s not to like? Oh and it would be so sweet to see Iran sweat the extortionists. The mullahs probably made a deal with Trump, the guy who makes deals all over the place

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
May 14, 2018 2:24 am

Admin, at the end of the day we want the same things. Neither of us is stupid.

Your interpretation that I view reality and facts as doom isn’t strictly correct. The facts themselves aren’t doom, I just think that the reality and facts lead directly to doom without passing GO and collecting $200.

Our big difference is that I’ve NEVER felt that total economic, political and social collapse is the only possible outcome for our situation. If it were that would represent a complete and utter failure of human imagination. I’ve been 99% in lockstep with your missives since first landing here on TBP 10+ years ago. I don’t believe your assessments are wrong, I’ve just always kept an eye out for plausible alternatives to that.

I’ll admit the chances are unbelievably slim of an alternative outcome but I’ve never let that hold me back in any other aspect of life. That an uneducated idiot like me can get ahead in this world proves that there is ALWAYS a chance. You’ve never known me to be an optimist because I’m not but sites like Philosophy Of Metrics and the phenomena of Q show some plausible alternative to the collapse and doom.

I saw plausible potential in what Q (group of people, not a single individual) had to say because he wasn’t promising anybody a thing. Q was also clearly red-pilled to level of every STM here. Q is one of us. I, and many others fucked up by getting too excited at the prospect of what was being discussed. I think Q was meant initially for the anons only probably thinking the anons were more clannish/secretive. I think Q drew too much attention too soon and morans like myself are to blame for that.

Far too many proofs have come to pass to deny that Q is legit. The frequency of proofs is increasing weekly. I wish more people were aware just so they could see the awesomeness headed our way. At the same time, Q was not meant for everybody or even me as I’m not an anon.

I do have concerns such as the debt and massive military buildup but to accomplish what is going on Trump has to play both the bumbling idiot and imminent failure the left believes he is and the America First/Damn the Consequences leader the left hates. He’s playing the deep states “distract and redirect” game against them and they scarcely see it but his distractions conceal the utter dismemberment of the deep state. It’s a true thing of beauty to watch. Watching it play out now, I’m sorry that I did not vote for him.

I don’t KNOW how the economy is going to shake out but I don’t expect total collapse. I don’t really expect it to be as bad as 2008 but I could be wrong. History says I will be but I think the world is about to be amazed at the outcome. Believing in that possibility isn’t a bad thing.