The Awful Truth: Cognitive Dissonance Will Be Our Destruction

Guest Post by Mary Christine

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge;
    because you have rejected knowledge,
    I reject you from being a priest to me.
And since you have forgotten the law of your God,
    I also will forget your children. Hosea 4:6

We tend to believe what we want to believe, at least to some degree. I can’t say that I am any different. I wanted to believe that President Trump was who he said he was on the campaign trail. For a few months early last year, I wanted to believe the Q conspiracy. We all want things to get better without going through hell fighting for it. Some think that Putin really is the savior of the Russian people; and China, well China is not exactly what you might think it is either.

When I first heard that Israel was not the friend in the Middle East that I had been taught by my evangelical pastors, I wanted to believe that they were wrong. They were anti-Semitic. We need to bless Israel or we will be cursed. That is what I was taught by my pastor at the Community Bible Church where I was baptized in 2002. That was what all of the evangelical pastors were teaching.  I wanted to believe they were right.

I came across some things in the past couple weeks or so that have caused me to conclude that we are witnessing the most amazing deception I have ever seen or read about, at least to date.

We need to identify the Enemy because, if we do not know who our Enemy is, we lose. Sitting still and waiting is not an option. Doing that will only increase the chances the Enemy wins, and maybe in the short run, it does anyway. But maybe it is not supposed to win, yet. Maybe we still have a chance to put things off, at least for a few more years.  If we miss that chance, our children and grandchildren can point the finger at us and ask us why, if we knew this was happening, we did nothing.

We have been very well conditioned to keep our mouths shut about one of our enemies. Even so, this enemy still feels the need to push legislation that flies in the face of our 1st amendment right of free speech.

SB1 Strengthening America’s Security in the Middle East Act of 2019 was the very first bipartisan bill introduced in the Senate after the government shutdown was temporarily stayed for 3 weeks, not only that, it passed 77-23 with only Senator Rand Paul to slow it down with his dissent. Apparently, nothing else was as important as this bill, which makes it illegal to criticize Israel. If you want to do business with the US government you must sign a loyalty oath in all 50 states. Did anyone hear about this? No? I thought so.

Why, if the State of Israel is doing nothing wrong is this even necessary? We can criticize our own government or any other nation in the world except this one? Just what are they up to that they need to clamp down so tightly on our right of free speech? While I am not big on boycotts I respect the right of others to do so if they wish. But this is about more than boycotts. This is about keeping anyone from saying anything bad about this country. This is not about being anti-Jewish.

The term anti-Semite is an epithet that is tossed about when someone is getting too close to the truth. It does not even apply because other Middle Eastern people are also Semites. It will lose its sting just as the word “racist” has lost its sting for many of us. A couple of my sources are Jewish followers of Yeshua, Jesus. They, along with any other Jewish follower of Jesus would be persecuted in Israel. There is still a remnant of Jews whose eyes the scales will fall off and they will also become followers. Many people involved in this deception are not Jewish.

The state of Israel is not the true Israel of the Bible. If it were it would not violate all of the Mosaic Laws and all twelve tribes would be living there. This is not about who is Jewish and who is not. I am fine with a country that calls itself Israel. I am not interested in seeing it go away. Israel is God’s problem and if it were not supposed to exist, it wouldn’t. If it is supposed to exist it will continue to go on without aid money and without suppressing our right to criticize it.

In the past few weeks a few different alternative media sites have been showcasing not just Israel, but China, Russia and the U.S. and how this tiny little state seems to be intricately involved in all of their nefarious deeds. Some specifically name Israel and some do not. We also need to realize how many of our own patriot minded people are deluded and are aiding and abetting the enemy without even realizing it (or even worse, some do realize it). I am going to link those sources, most of which are YouTube presentations (which I hope won’t disappear) I will highlight what I believe are the most important points but I urge you to at least listen to them if you do not have time to watch. There is far too much information contained in them for me to do more than then that.

This is so much bigger than I am and I think I needed to organize it so not only could I share it with the readers of The Burning Platform, but also have this information available to share with bewildered friends and family who are wondering why the “Swamp” isn’t being drained. Maybe it will convince them to stop looking for a human savior, because virtually all of the people in the political arena, regardless of which side of the fence they are on, are corrupt and on the take.

I will start with Catherine Austin Fitts who in a recent interview, went into detail about FASB56.

“The Federal Accounting Standards Advisory Board (FASAB) which has released a Statement of Federal Financing Accounting Standards 56 (Standard 56); taking government accounting practices from laxly enforced reporting standards to a new benchmark entirely–expressly approved obfuscation of reporting and, in some cases, outright concealing financials.”

Basically, they are funding private mercenary armies and laundering money with this accounting loophole. Recently Blackwater took out a full page ad after General Mattis resigned as Defense Chief. The Military Times opined :

In the January/February print issue of the gun and hunting magazine “Recoil,” the former contractor security firm Blackwater USA published a full-page ad, in all black with a simple message: ‘We are coming.’

Is the war in Afghanistan — and possibly elsewhere ― about to be privatized?”

Fitts went on to say:

“What they did was instead of doing a bailout, they created a structure where you can do a bailout everyday 24/7. They created an open pipeline back door to the treasury. One of the things they are going to say is “Oh no, no. It’s subject to aggregate totals.” No it’s not! First of all if you wanted to do secret things, you already have black budget laws in place. So you don’t need this. If you look at how they are doing this, there is lots of indication that they are laundering money in and spending it out. So let’s say in the middle east you are selling oil through the back door, you’re laundering those revenues through the DOD or other agencies. It’s a pattern I saw at HUD. I think they were laundering some of the drug profits through HUD. So this is basically an open running bailout. Under this structure you can transfer assets out of the federal government into private ownership and nobody will know and nobody can stop it. There is no oversight whatsoever! You can’t even know who is doing it!

I am telling you, they just took the United States governance model by accounting policy to a fascist government. And if you are an investor you don’t know who owns those assets and there’s no evidence to suggest that you do.  If the law says you have to produce audited financial statements and you refuse to do so for twenty years and then when somebody calls you on it you proceed to change the accounting laws on the theory that you can just now run secret books for all the agencies and over a hundred entities……If you are taking the US government books dark and the offshore havens are dark, what in the world is going on? It’s time for an audit. If healthcare, infrastructure, etcetera is going to be unfunded, I want to know what was that 21 trillion, where did it go?

 What happens to the dollar is irrelevant.  If you are in a system where a secret group of people can do whatever they want whenever they want including burn you out of your home or take your assets there are no property rights and you are in a slavery system. This is far bigger than ‘will there be a dollar or will gold go up in price because we’re creating a government structure that says we can steal your assets whenever we want. When I was focused on the gold markets, the GATA group wrote a letter to the treasury asking ‘do you reserve the right to seize gold?’  They came back with a reply on stationary saying “We reserve the right to seize all of your assets.”  This is about whether you will be allowed the right to own private assets. So my question is will you be allowed to have assets when this is all over?…They are changing the government structure to say that it reserves the right to not only debase and siphon off our assets but to take them outright.”

 “We have to stop passively sitting around waiting for someone to save us. The president cannot fix this, we need to fix this. Forget the fight between Republican and Democrat, if we all would just collaborate on running the money clean we could hate each other rich instead of hating each other poor!” If we want the U.S. to look anything like it did even twenty years ago, we have to do it ourselves.”

She begins explaining this new “accounting” trick at about 8:50 where she states that FASB56 was “The decision was to produce a statement from the Federal Accounting Standards Advisory board to come up with a policy that authorizes the government to, in complete defiance of the constitution and financial management laws to basically move certain things behind secret books, all the covered agencies, 156 related agencies are now permitted to keep secret books and we are not allowed to know who or by what process, all we know is that they can have secret books and the books we see are totally meaningless.

She goes into more detail later on in the video where I started quoting at about 28:00, if you do not want to listen to the entire 45 minutes. See the link to her website above where it will show you that not only are we putting money into the system but it is disappearing out the back door and we are on the hook for it.

There is so much more to this 45 minute interview that you should listen to. I have only quoted a good part of about 10 minutes and it is not word for word.

I have always had a problem with “black budgets”, and this is far worse. What are they doing with all of this money? Why are we sending billions and maybe trillions of dollars in aid to other countries at all? Personally, I think it is a type of extortion, or bribery to allow us to not only have military bases abroad, but to commit who knows what kind of nefarious activities that will benefit who? Not the general population of the U.S, that’s for sure, unless you work for the MIC.

So what does all this have to do with the U.S., Russia, China, Israel link I mentioned above? I’m getting to that.

Did you know that China has a fascination with the Babylonian Talmud and has been using it as a business model tool? While Christians and people of other religions are persecuted, Jews are admired and even celebrated.

“Greek clerics may blame us for wrecking their country’s economy, as the Forward reported last week. But in China, Jews are hailed as “very smart, very clever, and very good at business,” according to Newsweek.

“The apparent affection for Jewishness has led to a surprising trend in publishing over the last few years: books purporting to reveal the business secrets of the Talmud that capitalize on the widespread impression among Chinese that attributes of Judaism lead to success in the financial arts,” the magazine reports. Business-book shelves are dominated by titles like “Crack the Talmud: 101 Jewish Business Rules”, “The Illustrated Jewish Wisdom Book”, and “Know All of the Money-Making Stories of the Talmud”; a Talmud hotel in Taiwan even implies guests can absorb the holy book’s wisdom through osmosis. “Inspired by the Talmud theory, the owner uses red interior to add a splash of fashion and professionalism,” exclaims the hotel’s web site. “In each room, there’s also a copy of Talmud-Business Success Bible for anyone who would like to experience the Talmud way of becoming successful.”

Read more here

Israel and China have a close relationship that goes back quite a ways.

 “In fact, the Rothschild family came to China as long ago as the 1830s, when it set up a small gold and silver trading business in Shanghai. In 1953, four years after the founding of New China, Rothschild was one of the first major Western banks to establish relations with the country.”

Recently, Trunews spent an hour exploring the relationship between China, Israel and how it affects the United States.

In their research they found that the relationship with the Jews went back as far as 600 years when they began migrating to China. The population is small but their influence has been far reaching.

The communist revolution did not necessarily spring up wholly on its own. Mao Tse Tung was surrounded by what has been called an Elite Inner Guard of a half dozen Jews, including the following people:

Israel Eptstien, who became a propaganda chief and was editor of the China Daily, a dominant state newspaper.

Sidney Shapiro, Mao’s personal interpreter.

Ruth Wiess, who set up Jewish schools and communities and translated Jewish texts into Chinese.

Sidney Rittenberg , Mao’s personal English translator who has also advised Bill Gates, The Billy Graham Foundation and Levi Strauss and has been estimated to be worth 5 billion dollars.

Rick Wiles goes on to state that between 1962 and 2014, the United States has given 100 billion in aid to Israel which they then have been turning around and selling our tech secrets to China.

A 1996 The GAO concluded that Israel “conducts the most aggressive espionage operation against the United States of any US ally.”

“Several analysts and anonymous officials have in recent weeks expressed great concern over a deal that will put the Shanghai International Port Group in charge of the port’s container terminal starting in 2021.”

“Netanyahu announced that the two countries will complete a free trade agreement next year, and that China plans to invest heavily in Israeli infrastructure, including new ports and a light rail.”

 The Chinese are now in charge of the Port of Haifa container terminal. Israel is downplaying this saying:

“Regarding concerns over the 6th Fleet abandoning Israel, Maor explained that unlike Naples, Haifa is neither a base, nor a repair station for the U.S Navy, and American ships only visit the facilities a couple times a year for shore leave”

But Edward Szal of Trunews puts it this way, “Israel found a way to monetize the “Goodwill” relationship of the United States to the point where they made millions..billions of dollars!”

It was also noted how closely they are working with China on Artificial Intelligence and security. China owns 25% of the intelligence firms in Israel.

Indeed

“China has become Israel’s second largest trading partner, trailing only the US. Israel exported $2.8 billion to China in the first half of 2018, an 80 percent jump from the previous year. In the last two years, Israel and China have signed a breakthrough visa agreement, opened direct flights, and conducted hundreds of joint research projects.

Our bilateral relations are at a new height,” Wang said in a speech at the summit’s gala. “Our arms are wide open, for countries to innovate, to start businesses in China. Netanyahu announced that the two countries will complete a free trade agreement next year, and that China plans to invest heavily in Israeli infrastructure, including new ports and a light rail.”

Rick Wiles wonders if Israel, seeing that the US is continuing to deteriorate financially and politically, is turning away from the US and towards China, “dropping us like a hot potato”, or as Doc Burkhart put it “chuck the US like an old rag”.

As they collaborate together to work for a New World Order, or whatever you want to call it, is this how they plan to have our streets to look?

The Chinese government has begun using facial scans to identify pedestrians and jaywalkers.  REX FEATURES VIA AP IMAGES

“Just as oil fueled the industrial age, data are fueling advances of the AI age. Many practical AI advances are “more about having a large amount of continually refreshed data and good-enough AI researchers who can make use of that data, rather than some brilliant AI theoretician who doesn’t have as much data,” says computer scientist Kai-Fu Lee, founder of Sinovation Ventures, a venture capital firm here. And China, as The Economist recently put it, is “the Saudi Arabia of data.”

The Chinese, through the sale of technology from Israel, and from the Clinton and Greenspan theft have benefitted greatly from the relocation of our industrial and technological base. Greenspan moonlighted as an overseer of China’s transition.

Doc Burkhart of Trunews stated “During the late nineties and around 2000, when Bill Clinton was President and Alan Greenspan was the Federal Reserve Chairman, Chinese technology exploded while at the same time Alan Greenspan was running the Chinese economy!”

I urge you to watch the entire Trunews broadcast: The Art of Talmud: Chinese Commies Seek Israel’s Babylonian Secret Knowledge

I think it is worth it.

Moving on to Russia and the odd Chabad connection between Putin and Trump.

But first, did you know that there are Chabad-Luvabitch centers in 12 different cities in China? That there are more than I care to count in Russia? As a matter of fact, they are worldwide. If you are like me, you might be asking “What is Chabad-Luvabitch ?”

The Hasidic group known both as Lubavitch, after a town in Russia, and as Chabad, an acronym for the three elements of human and divine intelligence, Chochma (wisdom), Bina(understanding), and Da’at(knowledge), is not just the most successful contemporary Hasidic sect. It might be the most successful Jewish religious movement of the second half of the twentieth century…The Conservative movement historically caters to moderate suburban traditionalists. But many suburbanites now find themselves more comfortable at Chabad’s user-friendly services. Once the source of a distinctive middle-class Jewish nightmare—that one’s child might come home with tzitzis, a fedora, and extraordinary dietary demands (an “invasion of the Chabody snatchers,” as a joke of my childhood had it)—Lubavitch is now a familiar part of the suburban landscape…For decades, the Reform movement has defined its mission as tikkun olam, “repair of the world,” understood not as metaphysical doctrine but as social justice. And yet it is the unabashedly metaphysical Chabad that opens drug rehabilitation centers, establishes programs for children with special needs, and caters to Jewish immigrants, to name just three of a seemingly endless list of charitable activities.”

That doesn’t seem bad at all. In fact, they seem to be doing plenty of good works. They also support each other economically, loaning money at no interest. We Christians could learn from them.

 “It also has enviable brand recognition. This extends from the distinctive black suits, untrimmed beards, and genuine warmth…But most of all, Chabad is recognized in the saintly and ubiquitous visage of the late seventh Lubavitcher Rebbe, Menachem Mendel Schneerson, which has become, almost literally, a kind of icon.”

By almost any conceivable standard, then, Chabad-Lubavitch has been an extraordinary success, except by the one standard that it has set itself: It has not ushered in the Messiah. It has, however, been the source of the greatest surge of Jewish messianic fervor (“We want Moshiach now and we don’t want to wait!”) 

Some believe that Menachem Mendel Schneersen (the founder) who died in 1994 was the Messiah (they believe he did not really die).

“The Mishneh Torah, Maimonides lays out the criteria for the true Messiah:

If a king arises from the House of David who delves deeply into the study of the Torah . . . if he compels all Israel to walk in [its ways] . . . and fights the wars of God, he is presumed to be the Messiah. If he succeeds and builds the Holy Temple on its site and gathers the scattered remnants of Israel, then he is certainly the Messiah.”

The Mishneh Torah is an extensive commentary on the Talmud. Keep the part that I bolded in your mental parking lot.

Before we move on, for those not familiar with the Babylonian Talmud, it is a 6000 page commentary on the Torah or TaNaK. A very nice Jewish lady, Jana DeNoon, who is a follower of Jesus, recently gave a bare bones explanation of the Talumud. She also went a bit into Noahide laws which comes from the Talmud and how successful the Zionist lobby has been at convincing other countries, including the US to incorporate Noahide law into policy. As I was writing this essay, the DeNoons posted a new video

to bring awareness to the Christian Body about Pharisaic laws and Noahide laws that we will have to face in the near future. “

Noahide law, which passed in the House and Senate and was signed into law by President George H. W. Bush in March of 1991, forbids idolatry. On the surface these seven laws seem innocuous. However, since Jesus is not considered to be God by Jews, Christians are believed to be worshiping an idol. If these laws were actually enforced, it would allow Christians to be decapitated as punishment for idolatry. U.S. Congressman Bill Dannemeyer was a witness and has provided an in-depth look into what the laws are and how this joint resolution came to pass so quickly that month nearly 30 years ago .There is also a United Nations Declaration on Noahide law dated June 2013.

Now some of you might begin to think this essay is becoming a Trump hit piece and as we already know, the Clintons had their own deals going with the Russians. We have been over and over that aspect and it’s become a dead horse. Even the Washington post covered the non-coverage of the Clinton connection to Russia back in February 2018.

What I am trying to show here is that there are strong links between oligarchs in different countries and the end game is some kind worldwide totalitarian system. What I believe we might be seeing right now is a war between fascism and communism. So please bear with me, don’t quit because you don’t like what you are seeing. I seriously doubt that Mueller will ever bring any kind of charges against Trump because Trump is holding a bunch of..ahem.. trump cards. He knows they are guilty of treason and probably has all he needs to expose them. It’s a Mexican standoff and we are the losers in this game.

In November of 2017, Washington Monthly published an article that linked four men to both Trump and Putin.  All of them are firmly linked to the Chabod organization.

Lev Leviev: known in Israel as the “king of diamonds” and currently suspected of diamond smuggling.

Roman Abramovich: owner of the Chelsea Football Club of the English Premier League. Ivanka Trump is reported to be close friends with his wife and attended the inauguration as her guest.

Tamir Sapir: immigrated to New York from Soviet Georgia in 1976 where he opened an electronics store that was reported by the New York Times to be frequented by KGB agents.

“Trump has called Sapir “a great friend.” In December 2007, he hosted the wedding of Sapir’s daughter, Zina, at Mar-a-Lago. The event featured performances by Lionel Ritchie and the Pussycat Dolls. The groom, Rotem Rosen.

Rotem Rosen: Reported to be the CEO of Leviev’s American holding company and his “right hand man.”

Even though it is not a long article, about a 5 minute read, it’s fairly complicated, so much so, I would rather you read it yourself.

In the beginning I mentioned that this is not just about who is Jewish and who is not. The Vatican is thoroughly ensconced in this mess as well as Evangelical Christians.

 Pope Francis Sent His Priests to Chabad Rabbi Riskin’s ‘Noahide’ Center

Last year we noted that, “priests were selected in cooperation with the Archbishops of São Paulo, Buenos Aires, and Bogota” to attend Chabad Rabbi Shlomo Riskin’s ‘Noahide’ Center in counterfeit Israel. The Archbishop of Buenos Aires at that time is now Pope Francis.

See also:‘Noahide Law’ Proselytizing Rabbi Riskin Trains South American Priests in Counterfeit Israel

Steven DeNoon of Israeli News Live has reported that the Vatican is in control of Jerusalem all the while saying it supports the Palestinians.

“The end goal of the Vatican is to seize control of the Old City of Jerusalem out of the clutches of the State of Israel. To that end, they have a secret agreement with Israel which obliges Israel to respect the ‘extraterritorial’ claim to their physical presence in the city. In short, we have accepted the Vatican’s rights to have little Vatican sovereign embassies throughout our eternal capital of Jerusalem. That same Vatican has committed itself, in public and in a written agreement, to ensure that the Palestinians have sovereignty in the Old City of Jerusalem.”

Meanwhile the Sanhedrin has asked Nikki Haley, who was the keynote speaker at the last Christians United for Israel conference, to serve as their “Honorary President to the 70 nations” and has also issued a Nikki Haley commemorative coin. The Sanhedrin has finished building the alter for the next Temple. It is the evangelicals who belong to Christians United for Israel, a 5 million strong organization headed by John Hagee, who are behind the effort to help the Sanhedrin fund and build the new Temple of Solomon. For the love of all that is holy, why do Christians want to help build a temple that the Bible says the Anti-Christ will desecrate? While CUFI is far from alone in its partnership with worldwide Zionism, it seems to be the most well-known and well financed here in the US.

To keep the tired old epithet “anti-Semite” at bay, I keep these scriptures in mind remembering that The Apostle Paul quoted from the Book of Isaiah,

 ” Though the people of Israel are as numerous as the sand of the seashore, only a remnant will be saved.” Romans 10:27 NLT

And

25 I do not want you, believers, to be unaware of this mystery [God’s previously hidden plan]—so that you will not be wise in your own opinion—that a partial hardening has [temporarily] happened to Israel [to last] until the full number of the Gentiles has come in; 26 and so [at that time] all Israel [that is, all Jews who have a personal faith in Jesus as Messiah] will be saved; just as it is written [in Scripture],

The Deliverer (Messiah) will come from Zion,
He will remove ungodliness from Jacob
.” Romans 11:25-26 (AMP)

Do you find it difficult to accept the statement that all the major powers might be coordinating all of today’s wars and conflicts against each other to achieve a greater goal? President Trump keeps saying all the right things to keep his base fired up. But what are his actions telling us?

This essay is not about “evil Jews” it is about a worldwide effort between people, Christians, Jews, Muslims, Atheists, Russians, Chinese, and Pagans (the New Age Movement). Are they coordinating together with each other? Yes, in some ways, I think they are. Is there a division amongst them? Yes, I believe that is also true.

I surely can’t predict the future. It’s a big tapestry that is being woven and we are seeing it from the back, trying to connect the threads as best as we can.

After all the research and the effort to tie some of those threads together, I keep going back to the interview with Catherine Austin Fitts and wondering how much of the money in those back door bailouts is being used to fund nefarious activities related to the endless wars that Israel keeps wanting us to fight for them? When she told us to stop sitting around, she didn’t just leave it at that. At her website as well as in her interviews, she has related numerous things we could do that would begin to fix our problems.

“If we would collaborate together on running the money clean, we could hate each other rich instead of hating each other poor.”

It’s only too late if there is no breath left in your body. But it will take creativity and a willingness to believe in our hearts that things are changing faster than we ever imagined. What is keeping us in our chairs?

Cognitive dissonance is a hard thing to get past, even with something as small as a creative cover of a familiar song.

So,
So you think you can tell
Heaven from Hell?
Blue skies from pain?

Can you tell a green field
From a cold steel rail?
A smile from a veil?
Do you think you can tell?

Did they get you to trade
Your heroes for ghosts?

Hot ashes for trees?
Hot air for a cool breeze?

Cold comfort for change?
Did you exchange
A walk on part in the war
For a lead role in a cage?

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538 Comments
White Rationalist
White Rationalist
February 9, 2019 6:48 pm

MC, welcome to the blue/white pill.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  White Rationalist
February 9, 2019 7:59 pm

Have you ever taken a handful of pills and one gets stuck, White?

This one got stuck and it took me a very long time to get it down.

DD NM
DD NM
  Mary Christine
February 10, 2019 3:35 am

I awoke and thought…”oooh… I could go down and read some more of that fascinating essay/rant/diatribe/soliloquy all in one. So, since having a schedule is something the working schmucks do, I made coffee and lit a few aromatic candles, made the giant polar bear rugs rearrange themselves, tossed another log on the embers of the fire in the wood stove, and am just thrilled you live close enough to visit on the way to see my stepson in March… or the way back.

DD NM
DD NM
  DD NM
February 10, 2019 7:15 am

Okie dokey abra cadabra hocus pocus.
I’ve read the whole thing and at least jumped to several of the links. I need to have coffee, feed animals, thaw water pails and tubs and thank God I’m a country gal.

Let’s see what I copied to paste here for an addendum…

“S. 1

AN ACT
To make improvements to certain defense and security assistance provisions and to authorize the appropriation of funds to Israel, to reauthorize the United States-Jordan Defense Cooperation Act of 2015, and to halt the wholesale slaughter of the Syrian people, and for other purposes.”

Do ALL Acts of Congress seem vague and yet graphic? “Certain defense and security assistance provisions” requiring funds to Israel, of course, who apparently will stop “Wholesale Slaughter”, which sounds terribly unprofitable for all.

Gayle
Gayle
February 9, 2019 7:11 pm

Thanks for the work and research you put into your piece, M. C. It is a good read.

Israel, like every other nation, is full of corruption. No better, no worse, and certainly not deserving of special treatment. The worldwide web of deceit and destruction is unnnerving but entirely predictable if I read my Scriptures right. We know how this ends up, and watching all the pieces beginning to fall in place is fascinating in a macabre kind of way. I feel like I just need to keep my head down and keep on keepin’ on and keep saying my prayers.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Gayle
February 9, 2019 10:35 pm

Gayle – research my ass. If the rest of the article is as inaccurate as the stuff she said about the act, then she did not do any research whatsoever.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Llpoh
February 9, 2019 11:27 pm

The Crypto Jew has spoken.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Llpoh
February 10, 2019 12:04 am

Voting a comment down does not make the comment any less true. I notice no one has refuted my statement. Imagine that.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Llpoh
February 10, 2019 12:30 am

They know it’s a waste of time.

Uncola
Uncola
  Fleabaggs
February 10, 2019 1:09 am

Llpoh,

I guess we are supposed to trust them. You know. Like a cult.

DD NM
DD NM
  Uncola
February 10, 2019 4:56 am

Didn’t you get the TBP guide? Oh, that’s right. It fell by the wayside. There’s a big pile of shit there by the wayside.

DD NM
DD NM
  DD NM
February 10, 2019 7:17 am

Or is it the weigh side? Is it a nautical/fishing term?

WestcoastDeplorable
WestcoastDeplorable
  DD NM
February 10, 2019 9:31 pm

No, what you saw by the wayside was the last shoot-em-up about 9/11.

BL
BL
  Uncola
February 10, 2019 9:45 am

Kind of like we were supposed to trust you and the Kingmaker regarding El Trump?? These people fell for the kabuki/lie. Getting your panties in a wad is a tell to those who can see. Loopenstein is certainly running interference.

Can’t let the goy wake up to who crafts the screenplay.

Uncola
Uncola
  BL
February 10, 2019 2:50 pm

I’ve always been skeptical of Trump and you know it. Show me the screenplay, please. Sell me something or get the fuck off my porch.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Uncola
February 10, 2019 3:43 pm

Get off my lawn, get off my stage but get off my porch? I guess you were tailoring it for Fleabo the Southerner. You are getting a bit wild, Unc. Put down the truck antenna. Little biddy MC has pulled a Harriet Beecher Stowe act here. Good.

BL
BL
  EL Coyote
February 10, 2019 4:38 pm

EC- Is it a full moon? Bitching about joos on TBP is a everyday occurrence.
What is different about MC’s article? Chabad……why all the butthurt ……..I wonder? UN is going to pop a cork, me thinks. IDK why….

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Fleabaggs
February 10, 2019 6:42 am

Flea – what I have said is 100% true. It is irrefutable. You do not like it, whatever. Objecting to the truth makes it no less true. That is, or has been, a common trait on TBP – truth wins out and trumps all else. I guess you missed that memo.

AC
AC
  Llpoh
February 11, 2019 6:35 pm

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Your debate tactics seem familiar, somehow.

StackingStock
StackingStock
  Llpoh
February 10, 2019 3:06 pm

What’s your take on the act?

llpoh
llpoh
  StackingStock
February 10, 2019 6:45 pm

Stack – If you are talking to me my thoughts are these, some of which are contradictory:

1) the US should provide no financial support whatsoever to Israel, or any other nation, for that matter
2) the act seemingly supports the right of individuals and companies to boycott, which I agree with
3) the act extrapolates that right to states, giving them the right to boycott those that boycott, based on the government supposedly enacting the will of the people. That on face value seems to be reasonable.

However, and this is where it becomes contradictory: I believe that to allow states to boycott companies that are exercising their right to boycott is not a power I would like to see states possess. Seems to me that awarding of contracts by govt entities should be politics neutral, as where does that end? What happens when governing parties flip, for instance? These type of acts/laws have a way of expanding far beyond the limits of their original purpose. And expand they will, to the detriment of those with opposing political views.

StackingStock
StackingStock
  llpoh
February 10, 2019 8:28 pm

I was and thank you for the articulate response.

Carry on my friend.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Gayle
February 10, 2019 8:54 pm

Gayle! Where ya been? Haven’t seen you much lately. I get it. You have to withdraw to re-center yourself.

Gayle
Gayle
  Mary Christine
February 10, 2019 10:18 pm

Naw, just busier than heck lately. Will be that way for another three months or so. I still read every day, just can’t get many comments together. Congrats on 277 comments (so far).

DD NM
DD NM
February 9, 2019 7:19 pm

I am so impressed. I am only a third through and think you have managed to start it well… I’ll be back, if I can.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
February 9, 2019 7:35 pm

We are being played in a 4 way Kabuki of China, Russia, and us with Israel directing the show from backstage.
How many know that Mao was a Yaley or that we threw Chiang Kai-shek under the bus in favor of Mao?

22winmag - Unreconstructedsouthernerbygraceofgod
22winmag - Unreconstructedsouthernerbygraceofgod
  Fleabaggs
February 9, 2019 10:56 pm

I’ll take 4-way Kabuki Theater for $1,000 please!

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
  Fleabaggs
February 9, 2019 11:00 pm

Flea et al,

You mention Mao being a Yaley, now we are getting somewhere… The “Brotherhood of Death” ..

Referencing Mao made me think of North Korea and Kim Jong Un’s Swiss schooling…

http://www.sundaytimes.lk/111225/Timestwo/int10.html

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Platoplubius
February 9, 2019 11:33 pm

Plato..
Yes on Kim. The MSM plays him off like a Korean Jethro Bodine.
James Corbett had an excellent video about Yale in China and the Rockefellers. Where have I seen that name before? Also one about Mao’s inner circle Being Jewish.

Carl
Carl
  Fleabaggs
February 10, 2019 8:32 am

Once you build castles in the air, you can live in them too.

DD NM
DD NM
  Carl
February 11, 2019 6:25 am

With no reason to rush into action… such a great line from Jonathan Swift’s floating kingdom Laputa. Not that I know anything.

No wonder this was a best-selling page turner back in Georgian times.

Why are England’s monarchs able to serve absolutely no purpose in the world at such high salaries?

How many georges did the foreman have because England had four.

https://www.britainexpress.com/History/monarchs.htm

http://www.mygullivertravels.com/laputa.html

https://www.britainexpress.com/History/monarchs.htm

MC, you said it a long time ago here at TBP: The cross chatter and conversations between and across threads is sometimes informative and sometimes banal. However, as wise old broads we know that one often turns into the other.

Uncola
Uncola
February 9, 2019 7:44 pm

Definitely a lot to unpack there, Mary, and will take some time to explore your linked sources.

In the meantime, I’ll just say it really does distill down to liberty versus tyranny. Whether by fascism, or communism, Islam, talmudists, statism, globalism, secularism, or by any other name – it’s the pursuit power and control by empty souls.

I sometimes wonder if we’re all like the proverbial blind men circling the elephant and identifying differing and various indentifers; and other times like a circular firing squad with guns and fingers pointed around in perfect 360 degrees.

In the end however, in three dimensions, and given the trinity of Man’s body, mind, and spirit – the new Phoenix that will arise from the ashes will very likely take the form of a totalitarian economic, political, and religious technocracy. Of course the economy would be cashless, the laws unjust, and all wrapped with a new religion (or an old one by another name).

In other words: The more things stay the same, the more they change.

Nothing new under the sun. Seriously.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Uncola
February 9, 2019 9:52 pm

It’s the JEWS PERIOD.
It’s not the Islamists or Secularists or any one other than Israeli Jews.
They have so thoroughly and deeply cowed the intire country it’s pathetic. It’s worked so well that TBP’RS presently online won’t even be caught reading this for fear of being put on Google’s anti Semite list.

Uncola
Uncola
  Fleabaggs
February 9, 2019 10:48 pm

Here’s the deal Flea. I think I’m going to have to write a stand-alone piece on this – so every time (((THEY))) are brought up I can refer all of you astute Jew-sighters back to it.

In so many ways the Jew-sighters are like those who see climate change and when anyone questions their orthodoxy they are labeled as “deniers”.

So when I ask you to prove this statement:

“It’s the JEWS PERIOD”

In so asking, it doesn’t make me a jew-lover, got it?

As far as I know, (((THEY))) are a bunch of tricky bastards whose ancestors were in the Bible or some shit like that. But none of that matters now, does it?

So prove your statement please, but without any links to obscure websites and books of dubious scholarship.

Do you think you can do it?

Can you prove that correlation equals causation and without conflating ideology to genetics?

Just curious

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Uncola
February 9, 2019 11:46 pm

You can find links for anything you want to justify but you are the one stealing the topic away from the Jews so the proof is on you. Nobody called you a Jew lover.
Obscure websites and books of dubious scholarship. To you that is your Proof against all arguments and a bar against all information you don’t approve of. Did Alinskyite teach you that?
You’re too in love with your intellect and imagined writing skills.

Uncola
Uncola
  Fleabaggs
February 10, 2019 12:42 am

Yeah. That’s what I thought. You WANT to believe the Jews control the Matrix, don’t you Flea. Have you ever asked yourself why? Because it just FEELS RIGHT, doesn’t it? Be honest.

# 13 of Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals says to do this:

Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.

Is that what you’re doing, Flea, and then projecting it on ME now?

Are you playing Alinsky’s game?

Why else would you be making accusations against me? YOU responded to my comment. I, in turn, simply asked you for proof.

And then you said this about me:

You’re too in love with your intellect and imagined writing skills.

Why would you say that? What do you mean exactly?

WTF?

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Uncola
February 10, 2019 3:40 am

I said that because you qualified what kind of proof You would or wouldn’t accept as if you would know. Have you stood back and read your very lengthy articles lately. Then you ended with a snarky comment about correlation.
Asking for proof when you darned well nobody else goes to such great lengths to stifle any public discussion of who the culprit is. Go ahead and write your article. Did you read that before you hit the post icon. It reeked of conceit as in “I the great Uncola shall now write a proper response”.
Here’s my unwashed response.
Pound Sand.

Uncola
Uncola
  Fleabaggs
February 10, 2019 8:49 am

because you qualified what kind of proof You would or wouldn’t accept as if you would know.

But you think do know, don’t you flea. And you don’t qualify your proof do you?

You’re quite the ad hominem guy because you can’t back your arguments for shit. It’s all voodoo and emotions. No different than any libtard I ever debated.

But you’re all fired up and ready to go paint the world with swastikas and usher in a New World Order of your own based on what you think you see; along with weak-willed women and other gullible, intellectually lazy dupes.

People like you are killing the free internet. Left unchecked, you dummies will smother this blog and think you did the world a favor. Then you’ll think it was because you were being persecuted when all along, it was because you were wrong.

In the meantime, I still anxiously await any documentation and undeniable proof you might provide regarding your contention that: “It’s the JEWS PERIOD”.

Until then, and in the absence of solid proof, my mind stays open and focused on ideology over emotion.

In other words: Let’s agree to disagree, shall we?

Carl
Carl
  Uncola
February 10, 2019 9:13 am

It’s like when a bunch of low IQ drunks show up at a party. All of the smart and classy people leave. Pretty soon this website could become just another fascist echo chamber.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Carl
February 11, 2019 12:14 am

You don’t have to pretend to be other people, Llpoh.

BL
BL
  Uncola
February 10, 2019 9:21 am

I’m not saying Flea is right….. but he’s right.

Uncola
Uncola
  BL
February 10, 2019 1:30 pm

It really is a cult.. You guys are just another collective awaiting a strong man. Good luck with that.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Uncola
February 10, 2019 11:23 am

Uncola..
You’re the one all fired up using yet more Alinskyite tactics. You’ve got me suited up in dreaded Nazi symbolism. Accusing Mary C of being a weak willed gullible woman who is intellectually lazy.
I’m killing the free internet and you are here to save it for the Jews. Left unchecked us dummies will smother this site.
Says the intellectual giant.
No more proof is needed when people like you and Llpoh have been so badly cowed that get hysterical over a nobody saying the J word.
Proof enough that neither of you would accept “undeniable documented proof” even if it came from God.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Fleabaggs
February 10, 2019 11:44 am

Doug…
About those Swastikas!
My nine very Jewish Neices and Nephews will find that amusing. Until very recently I was very careful to make a distinction between Jews and Zionist or Israeli Jews. Then Ron Unz (a very Jewish guy) posted “Time to drop the Jew Taboo” and I realized I too had been reluctant to say the J word. I never used any racial slurs except in satire. As in my description of the farmers market at Englishtown N.J. as a kid. Recent events have changed all that.

Uncola
Uncola
  Fleabaggs
February 10, 2019 1:33 pm

Oh yeah, about that. Tell me more about those Chinese Jews will ya?

DD NM
DD NM
  Uncola
February 12, 2019 6:51 am

My Christian Zionist “friend” really chomped on that. I’ve been afraid to open another of her emails for fear it will yell at me for talking to Mary Christine.

Seriously, why the seemingly irrational reaction by my friend over what is, at least, a well-written tirade with some valid links to valid opinion pieces, if not the masterpiece I believe it to be? Why would a woman I believe to be educated and Christian, though of a sect of which I am not familiar… Christian Zionist doesn’t sound all that different from Christian Methodist or Christian Orthodontist, does it? Well, why would she suddenly go frigid and cold over my emailing her a bit of Mary Christine’s little declaration that could? Why did my otherwise rational friend reply “Stay away from this… whether she knows it or not, she is an anti-Semite” ?????

It really is conditioned responses to certain words or phrases. We all do it to some degree, but how many of us can block out entire LINES OF DISCUSSION.

Why, we all can, can’t we Yo?

Uncola
Uncola
  Fleabaggs
February 10, 2019 1:36 pm

What makes you think I was talking about Mary? If you read her piece she’s a lot more open-minded than you.

Truth is, you’re cowed to your collective in ways that would make Jim Jones proud. I asked you for proof of your statement and all I got was more Kool-Aid.

You’re killing me over here. Killing me with boredom that is. It’s always the same old shit isn’t it?

Proof enough that neither of you would accept “undeniable documented proof” even if it came from God.

Try me. If you have any balls at all, I fucking dare you.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Uncola
February 10, 2019 2:18 pm

Pound some more sand Soros boy.

Uncola
Uncola
  Fleabaggs
February 10, 2019 3:09 pm

Keep coming back and I’ll keep fucking you up all day. That’s the beauty of collectives. They show the contagiousness of ignorance. You’re just another Snowflake, Flea, with nothing real in your arsenal to defend your beliefs; except the rote memorization of what other retards have told you about an enemy you can’t even fucking define.

Before you fuck off with your tail between your legs, could you at least tell me what Jew even is?

Was Muhammad a Jew? Because you said it was the ‘JEWS PERIOD!” Did the Jews start Islam as part of the conspiracy to take over the world?

But I will give you a some credit. It takes much faith to believe one tiny democratic nation occupying less than 1% of the middle-eastern desert can rule planet earth. They must be some magic motherfuckers, huh?

And, by the way, Soros was a Nazi sympathizer, and Hitler was financed by the same Jewish bankers you claim to despise), dumbfuck.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Uncola
February 10, 2019 3:51 pm

Only in your imagination have you fukked me up pussy. You’ve come completely unhinged because an unwashed hillbilly challenged your imaginary intellectual superiority.

Uncola
Uncola
  Fleabaggs
February 10, 2019 5:05 pm

Tell me how you’ve challenged my intellectual superiority, dumbass. I cannot find one fucking idea of yours that has remotely proven or challenged squat shit.

And that’s why you’re a Snowflake, Flea.

When contributors on this blog try to discern and debate real ideas, you, and other members of your cult, show up on every fucking thread and shit your finger-pointing insults against an enemy you never define while thinking you’re all geniuses.

In the meantime, the adults in the room shake their heads silently in embarrassment like when children say stupid things in public.

You think you’re going to win with your fascist bullshit, but tell me one time it’s ever worked for long. You’re no different than politically correct liberals crying about “privilege” as you call Llpoh a “crypto Jew” and me a “Soros-boy”.

But that’s how it works in your collective isn’t it. You fuckers are the Borg just like the Marxists. As the loony-toons Left saves spotted owls while advocating for infantcide and battle against White Oppression – your collective bitches about being called anti-semites and white supremacists as you condemn the filthy Jew.

Just as the left conflates colors and genitalia, your ilk sublimates ideas to DNA and kippahs. In so doing, you’re not only wasting time, but you’re dividing your own ranks and strengthening the enemy.

Do you know what fascism and Marxism have in common? They’re both forms of statism that mandate thought control.

We can identify our enemies by their actions and their ideas.

I’ve been snow-plowing all day. I haven’t seen one Jew. But I did see my neighbor who’s about 50% awake.

I’d like to have them read this blog, but not until your cult starts providing proof of your claims. At least then your name-calling, an Yo’s silly videos, and cartoons, wouldn’t be so embarrassing.

In fact, I might as well send my neighbor to the Huffington Post because the commenters there back-up their claims just as well as you’ve done here on this thread, Flea.

So I’ll say it to you like I said to Bea. Sell me something or stay the fuck off my porch. I got other shit to do than to shake my head and be silently embarrassed for stupid fucks like you

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Uncola
February 10, 2019 9:00 pm

I guess I need to separate the two of you, for cryin out loud.

DD NM
DD NM
  Mary Christine
February 12, 2019 7:20 am

A word from the wise little bird on the wire. Don’t start mothering the monkeys unless you want to kiss boo boos soon.

DD NM
DD NM
  Uncola
February 12, 2019 7:01 am

We have had a couple of people show up on this enormous line of comments claiming to be of jewish persuasion. I tried to encourage one or two to stick around for the encore, but I haven’t the hostess ability I had when I was still in Mayberry. It was more like… “uh, glad to have your opinion… see ya around I hope” when Aunt Bea might have baked a platter of cookies and served them with fresh unpasteurized milk.

That was before Bea became BL.

So, a reasoned debate between the pro-Israel monkeys and the anti-Israel monkeys. How? If my rational friend won’t even discuss it with me privately, how does someone get it going?

Well, exactly like Mary has done and a few others here, there and everywhere, but slapped down and silenced because “did she actually bring that up and ask about that issue here? In polite discussion?”

Do you hear the Sound of Silence?

Okay, here is a brief summary of the next terse message from my friend headed to the Holy Land soon. And I paraphrase: [[[The woman (MC) is obviously speaking of issues of which she has no real knowledge. I’ve spoken with Rabbi (I don’t know which one I will look later) and can tell you he supports no such thing. My own granddaughter attends Chabad in New York and loves it. Some mention of Replacement Theory and other terms which suggest Mary hit a real nerve, but I won’t go into detail.]]]

So, I’d hoped she would actually give me a reasoned response I could send Mary to help her “Quest for Truth” and what I got was an angry slap on my hand for talking to the wrong people. I’ve not sent it to Mary because it is mean.

BL
BL
  DD NM
February 12, 2019 8:09 am

Double D- I have always asked people to join in, with or without refreshments/cookies. My knowledge of Chabad is firsthand , something like you with a friend. OTOH, I have jooish friends who hate that cult.

Mags, I really don’t know how humanity will deal with this. Still wondering why Doug is off the chain toward me. Makes me go Hhhmmm.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  DD NM
February 12, 2019 10:32 am

The problem with your friend is stated in the title of the article: cognitive dissonance. I’m a Messianic believer in Yahshua/Jesus, and believe me it’s like those I worship with are totally brainwashed. They do not understand that there are two types of Zionism. They do not understand that the establishment of Israel in 1948 was NOT the Scriptural regathering. They have this infatuation with Israel that blinds them to the truth – cognitive dissonance. It hurts the ego to be wrong. I love the true Israel of the Bible and the Jewish people who worship Yahuah with a pure heart. Unfortunately, people don’t realize that those “Jews” in places of financial and political power are actually Kazhars. I’ve tried to gently share these truths, but cognitive dissonance blocks it. It’s too scary. Yes, they will then run to their Rabbi in order to feel good about their belief-system again.

DD NM
DD NM
  Vigilant
February 12, 2019 3:25 pm

Thank you for that… I haven’t replied. I think I’ll put some time and distance behind me.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Uncola
February 11, 2019 9:19 am

“It takes much faith to believe one tiny democratic nation occupying less than 1% of the middle-eastern desert can rule planet earth. They must be some magic motherfuckers, huh?“
That what it all comes down to, but it isn’t magic,the Bible foretold of it all, the nations are in an uproar but God said He would defend this scrap of land Himself when everything comes to a head. As I understand it, we have to separate the corrupt power brokers from the land itself.Unfortunately Israel has been polluted to a degree that is shameful and unimaginable with every perversion on full display, as is our own USA. But here we are ,living in the muck , and still hoping and praying that we can salvage something for our children and grandchildren, right? I can’t grasp the intricacies like most of you all here ,but I can pray, and prayer can change things, I’m certain of that.

Ginger
Ginger
  Anonymous
February 11, 2019 10:38 am

A great point!
“As I understand it, we have to separate the corrupt power brokers from the land itself. Unfortunately Israel has been polluted to a degree that is shameful and unimaginable with every perversion on full display, as is our own USA.”
https://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/travel/2016/03/17/welcome-tel-aviv-gayest-city-earth/y9V15VazXhtSjXVSo9gT9K/story.html
King Ahaz of Israel was one of the most wicked of the Old Testament Jewish Kings, 2 Chronicles 28:2-3, even sacrificing his sons to Baal, yet Almighty God offered him any sign that King Ahaz desired no matter what, Isaiah 7:10-11. When Ahaz declined, what did God do but give the sign of Jesus Christ himself being born of a Virgin. Isaiah 7:14, which hangs the whole truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
God loves the Jews just like the rest of us, but many a Jew has gone to Hell, and will later be thrown into the Lake of Fire, just as anyone else that does not accept Jesus as Lord, and experiences the Second Birth.
“Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.” John 3:7
And Jesus was talking to a Jew.

flash
flash
  Uncola
February 13, 2019 9:51 am

Since you mentioned it.

The Jewish Origins of Islam

http://www.culturewars.com/2018/Gardinerreview.htm

Worth a read.

The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit and its Impact on World History (Selections from CW)
by E. Michael Jones, PH.D.

https://archive.org/details/TheJewishRevolutionarySpiritAndItsImpactOnWorldHistoryselections_20?q=Jewish+Revolutionary+Spirit

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Fleabaggs
February 10, 2019 9:13 pm

“Accusing Mary C of being a weak willed gullible woman who is intellectually lazy.”

Maybe I missed something but I didn’t get that at all from what Doug said.

Uncola
Uncola
  Mary Christine
February 10, 2019 9:28 pm

That wasn’t directed at you, MC. Even in my haste, I should have clarified that. Like I said I was plowing snow most of the day and was, therefore, somewhat haphazardical.

DD NM
DD NM
  Uncola
February 12, 2019 7:21 am

See. I KNEW it was about me.

Uncontrovertible
Uncontrovertible
  DD NM
February 12, 2019 12:58 pm

If you’re weak-willed then Trump is an introvert. 500 bitches!! If only old Andy had that kinda momentum. The more hands, the lighter the work. The more the Mary-er

BL
BL
  Mary Christine
February 10, 2019 9:35 pm

MC- I would just be proud that you struck a nerve to the point that some exposed their underbelly. On any given day, joo banker insults fly around here with gusto. Why did your article raise this level of rage?

Uncola
Uncola
  BL
February 11, 2019 1:32 am

Bea asks MC:

Why did your article raise this level of rage?

As far as I was concerned, in part, because you cult worshippers were shitting on her thread. You know with innuendo, and conflating the 27 types of Jews with Zionists, communists, Bolsheviks, Ashkenazis, globalists, dead Chinese tyrants, etc, etc, hell, even you geniuses can’t keep your stories straight; at least not articulately.

“It’s the Jews, but not all Jews, and including some who are not Jews.”

It gets old after a while.

Anyway, MC wrote an adequately-sourced and thoughtful piece complete with link-attribution. More than anyone has ever seen from you or the other fruitcakes.

Flea responded to my comment “it’s the JEWS PERIOD” thus, revealing the typical underbelly of frustratingly and endlessly repeating stupidity (and in a way I believed diminished MC’s earnest attempt here to advance the discussion). So I cleared the air in a manner by which I found worthwhile. Plus, I was already pissed cuz I had to plow today when I had other shit I wanted to do

That’s all that was, Bea. At least for me

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  Uncola
February 11, 2019 2:38 am

Uncola- I’ve been there many times myself. If you can physically land blows with the speed and accuracy you land them in a verbal assault…..well, I’ll just say that’s why Samuel Colt and I have become close friends.

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum- as far as ‘proof’ of the masonic conspiracy? It’s on the money !

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  ordo ab chao
February 11, 2019 11:25 am

Ordo..
You call all that Alinskyite ranting landing blows. I hardly said anything and the oversensitive pussy came unhinged. Even his friends told him to get a grip. He writes fluffy meaningless articles and idiots tell him he’s fabulous and he believed it. All I did was challenge his fantasy and announce what he really believes.

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  Fleabaggs
February 11, 2019 5:26 pm

I lean a little bit your way on the ‘hardly said anything’ part, but I once chased a guy clear INTO the chief of police’s office because I didn’t like how he waved at me…didn’t work out well for me, but that fella knew to just look the other way next time.

My thinkin is that it’s good to let a little steam blow off, but (and I’m guilty of similar offenses,) when generalizations are made like “It’s the jews period”, it just isn’t right no matter who is it’s directed at.

The subject is one of the most contentious on earth, and complicated, kabbala, ? Talmud? Torah, Noahide law, Ashkenazi…..and so on and on…

You can read my posts, compare them to Uncola’s abilities, (yours too), and understand from my position, YES, I call that “landing blows”. Based on my skill, he would shred me; hence my little ‘funny’.

I’ve come to respect a hell of a lot of folks that gather here, and I’m pained to see the turmoil….

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum-the devil’s delight !

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  ordo ab chao
February 11, 2019 6:36 pm

Ordo..
The fights are part of the furniture here. We are passionate about our beliefs but we are a lot like siblings quarreling. Tomorrow we hardly remember. Me and EL C are two of the biggest offenders but next day it’s over.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Uncola
February 11, 2019 12:32 pm

Uncola.
Glad you liked Mary’s article.
Adequately sourced, well arranged etc.
Over 2 weeks ago she asked someone if she should even write it. She was told, yes absolutely. She wasn’t sure what to say or insert as links and so on.
8 days of sore eyes from watching countless hours of video and text and advise and presto. Like magic 377 replies in 1.5 days.
But not so much as a hint of a hat tip to IDIOT with an 8th grade education. Women are usually quick to give credit for help.
Now about the Jew thing. I was just naming and shaming.
The comment about weak willed women was to show you what you were doing by putting me in a Nazi uniform.
You’re head is so far up your ass you need a window in your stomach to see where you are going.

Uncola
Uncola
  Fleabaggs
February 11, 2019 3:29 pm

Here’s the deal, Flea. I just wrote another 200+ word burner to mess you up even more. It was really bad. Worst one so far. And I just shit-canned it while remembering all the things I like about ‘ya.

You’re not my enemy. On the contrary.

So, without any further attacks on you, I will just say that I, personally, would have LOVED not to engage in the profanity on this thread using my Uncola moniker – but I did it for the first time and for one primary reason and one primary reason only. It was for Mary.

Had I not said anything, I thought the commentary might turn into what I, personally, thought would be a feelings-over-facts, Jew-fest echo chamber (like all of them before). If anything, my profanity showed how strongly I felt about that.

In so doing, the debate also helped to consolidate some of my own perspectives.

Moreover, since the internet is forever, anyone coming back to reference this piece will now have two sides of the equation within this commentary to compare; which I believed passionately honored Mary’s contribution in my own way.

Honestly, my weak-willed women comment was directed at one female gunslinger in particular as well as others (of both sexes) who (I believe) sometimes shoot themselves in the foot when they type. But, of course, that’s my own opinion; because free speech or die, motherfucker, dude.

Peace for now; until next time – which could, in fact, be my own stand-alone post on this topic.

In the meantime, the comments on this one will likely surpass 400; and, for the record, it more than outperformed my personal maximum of 380 as the most comments I’ve ever had on any single one of my 120+ essays posted here since August of 2016.

There’s definitely something about Mary.

And I do appreciate your contributions on her behalf, as well.

Onward…

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
  Uncola
February 11, 2019 5:21 pm

Much love!

Onward and forward we go!

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  Uncola
February 11, 2019 5:30 pm

That’s the man I’ve come to know on here !

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum- “blessed are the peacemakers” !!!

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Fleabaggs
February 11, 2019 5:35 pm

So sorry about that, Frankie. I should have put you as co-author. I could not have done it without you.

If you are willing to help me with anything else, assuming I even write anything else, I would be happy to list you as co-author.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Mary Christine
February 11, 2019 6:10 pm

Mary C..
I’m not the co author and didn’t want to be or you know I would have said so. I was glad to do it but my oversensitive pussy alter ego was a little miffed by that “they failed me comment so I got even. My alter ego must be a fag, he just can’t stand being slighted. At least you could have told the ladies how handsome I am.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Fleabaggs
February 11, 2019 6:28 pm

Nope. Not sharing you with the other ladies but yeah you are a handsome devil. I was teasing about the failure but that kind of nuance doesn’t travel well over the internet

DD NM
DD NM
  Mary Christine
February 11, 2019 7:00 pm

I once extended an invite to fleabaggs and he honestly let me know he could not really be trusted. I laughed and laughed.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  DD NM
February 11, 2019 7:49 pm

Trust no one except God. Even your kith and kin.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Mary Christine
February 11, 2019 8:22 pm

I forgot to add trust no one 100% and I can’t edit this. I assume because I keep going back and forth between devices or maybe because I am a stubborn bitch and I refuse to login to wordpress.

BL
BL
  Fleabaggs
February 11, 2019 5:49 pm

UNc- If you asked ANYONE on this sites who is the biggest opponent of the Nazi crap, that would be ME. Ask Yobert, if anyone knows it would be him.

I don’t know why you are so riled up Doug. You want to thrash some Nazis, go for the real Nazis in the community, it’s almost laughable to try to include me.

DD NM
DD NM
  Fleabaggs
February 11, 2019 6:56 pm

If it makes you feel any better, she told me you were reading and helping. I think the response was a bit of a shock and when and if the dust settles without the entire site being closed by complaining eyes, perhaps the conversation might continue in a civilized and low key tone. Perhaps we need to get past a lot of stuff.

You’re okay. Your invite for teotwawki was rescinded but you are still an okay sort of fleabag.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  DD NM
February 11, 2019 7:49 pm

Maggie..
“They” don’t worry about this kind of thing. They don’t want anything that disturbs their narrative like the Fred Reed article.
I can’t breathe in the humidity where you are. Otherwise I would be better than a pack of dogs around your perimeter. I wake up to an ant farting and move through the woods at night like a ghost and I’m sick in the head. A homeless guy took a pistol out of my truck and laughed when I said I want it back. So I went into their camp on the river at night with a pistol and magnum can of bear spray. I ran his friends out then blasted him with spray. Tied his arms to a tree made him cry till daylight.

DD NM
DD NM
  Fleabaggs
February 12, 2019 7:27 am

Thanks for that picture I can take with me to feed goats and give the poor kids some dry hay. I imagine the levees in the bottom lands will overflow soon, feeding the mosquito beds.

I get it. This recent challenge has taught me a great deal about limitations. Goals must always be kept within range of the limitations. I think that is what I mean, but again, thanks.

DD NM
DD NM
  Mary Christine
February 12, 2019 7:21 am

I saw it and got highly offended because I assumed he was talking about me.

Mind Blown
Mind Blown
  Uncola
February 11, 2019 8:41 am

http://whale.to/c/SolvingMysteryofBabylontheGreatChaptersHDRHL.pdf

Edward Hendrie’s proof- free book pdf or you can buy it.

Tommy
Tommy
  Uncola
February 12, 2019 3:36 pm

Uncola’s winning, don’t stop. You’ve Flea down to a tee.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Tommy
February 12, 2019 3:48 pm

Sure, and trumps going to drain the swamp.

BL
BL
  Fleabaggs
February 10, 2019 1:36 am

UnD- If you keep snarling, they will begin to question things better left unquestioned.

Uncola
Uncola
  BL
February 10, 2019 1:55 am

Snarling? Really, Bea?

Hey, while you’re here, though, I asked some questions below that no one has answered yet.

So, would you mind?

Are all Jews Illuminati?

If not, why not just call the bad ones Illuminati? Or Luciferian? Or Satanists? Or elite bankers? Or communists?

Why do many of you here want me to agree with your erroneous conflation of the above groups to all Jews?

Could you (or someone) please answer these questions for me?

Thanks in advance

BL
BL
  Uncola
February 10, 2019 2:01 am

I answered already. (below)

Uncola
Uncola
  BL
February 10, 2019 2:09 am

I saw. Thanks man

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Uncola
February 10, 2019 7:26 pm

An attempt to shed some scriptural light on the matter since you asked. Uncola, please read both articles contained within this link (JP’s first to frame the argument) and then my response. The Jews are a unique people in the world.

I emailed him personally and he responded that he had no time to read what I wrote… a lesson there. It is what it is.

People believe what they want to believe. I want to believe the Bible. Nothing else I have ever encountered begins to approach the natural truths it expounds when one (finally) learns how to read it.

Christian Zionism, a response to James Perloff

TampaRed
TampaRed
  grace country pastor
February 10, 2019 8:09 pm

gcp,
do we get unlimited ice cream while we’re reading it?

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  TampaRed
February 10, 2019 9:51 pm

I sure learned a lot about ice cream in Tampa, Tampa!

Someday, hopefully in the not too distant future, you bet!

Uncola
Uncola
  grace country pastor
February 10, 2019 9:33 pm

I’ve bookmarked the link, GCP and will read both soon. If I ever did write on the Jews I may want to delineate both sides of the zionist coin. So thank you

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Uncola
February 10, 2019 9:58 pm

Absolutely… and I hope you do eventually put your thoughts to paper.

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  grace country pastor
February 11, 2019 2:49 am

I’ve got a question for you Pastor:

Once saved always saved ??

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum-

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  ordo ab chao
February 11, 2019 12:24 pm

We are saved by what Christ did not by anything we might do. Yes, once Gods gift is received (salvation) it can never be rescinded. If we are not saved by our works, how can our works deny salvation?

Sin is no longer mans problem; sin was paid for at the cross.

2 Corinthians 5:21 KJB… “For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.”

Diogenes
Diogenes
  Uncola
February 10, 2019 8:23 pm

The “bad ones” have made a pact with the Lord Archon, as did their ancestors long ago. Not all new world order psychopaths are Jewish, but let the record show they are well represented in that group of humanity hating scum. Bunch of fucking Darwinist survival of the fittest egomaniacs.

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
  Diogenes
February 10, 2019 8:27 pm

Dio,

Nice contribution! Good reminder. Thank you.

Stucky
Stucky
  Uncola
February 10, 2019 4:46 pm

“Here’s the deal Flea. I think I’m going to have to write a stand-alone piece on this – so every time (((THEY))) are brought up I can refer all of you astute Jew-sighters back to it.”

I think writing a pro Joo article is EXACTLY what this joint needs.

I’m not kidding. First, there are way to many anti Joo articles. We need balance. Second, you can and will do a helluva job. Really, truly. Third, I can look forward to GCP writing 6k word rebuttals to everything you say. Fourth, I think it could break the 500 comment barrier. Fifth, and best of all, when it’s all said and done HALF of everyone here will hate the other half!

So, really, please go for it!!!

Uncola
Uncola
  Stucky
February 10, 2019 6:26 pm

Actually, Stuck, it wouldn’t be much of a pro-Jew article, per se. I don’t care much one way or the other, actually. But I’d like to think it would be a fair assessment; and one I could use as a “disclaimer” of sorts.

Because when I write my articles, and the Jew-Spotting Collective (JSC) puts a comment on my thread, I want them to know that my silence, or lack of response, does not mean consent to their particular claim(s).

Honestly, I don’t want to be associated with that whatsoever (for reasons as stated in my above comments)

However, that said, I do believe MC has put together a fine exposition here. As I have time, I’m going through her source documentation; for which I’m grateful for her to have provided.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Stucky
February 10, 2019 7:27 pm

?

Aodh Macraynall
Aodh Macraynall
  Stucky
February 10, 2019 8:27 pm

Are you kidding me? Balance? This is the greatest piece of mastery that has ever been on The Burning Platform. And someone’s going to try to “balance” it. That’s like trying to write a piece of shit to “balance” Bach’s Brandenburg Concertos..

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Aodh Macraynall
February 10, 2019 9:19 pm

“greatest piece of mastery that has ever been on The Burning Platform”

Hardly. If I titled it honestly the title would have been something like “Junk That Is Floating Around My Head: Please Help Me Clarify It So I Can Sleep” but that’s too long for a title.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Mary Christine
February 10, 2019 9:45 pm

Yeah, best to take Macranial’s comments with a grain of salt, he is mental.

Aodh Macraynall
Aodh Macraynall
  Mary Christine
February 10, 2019 10:14 pm

nothing like writing down your thoughts to clear the mind.

Panzerlied
Panzerlied
  Uncola
February 10, 2019 6:53 pm

Those that control our Congress, media, financial system, etc. have no relationship to the Israelites of the Christian Bible. The impostors are Khazarians, which were originally from the ancient land of Khazaria where the present nation of Georgia is located. Yes, I can prove all that I say, but it may profit it more to do a little research on your own.

Uncola
Uncola
  Panzerlied
February 10, 2019 7:45 pm

I believe Peter Schweizer, who wrote the book “Clinton Cash” (that exposed the financial shenanigans of Hill & Bill’s foundation) is of Khazarian Jewish descent. Could he part of the conspiracy, I wonder?

Because Clarence Thomas descends from people who, I’ve heard, like fried chicken.

Jim Quinn descended from a nation whose inhabitants would likely rule the world if it wasn’t for beer and whiskey.

And my ancestors wore kilts.

I keep tripping up over that correlation equaling causation, but I’ll look into it.

If I find anything, I’ll report back right away. Thanks Panzer

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Uncola
February 10, 2019 9:21 pm

My ancestors, the French, like to have others bail them out of bad situations.

DD NM
DD NM
  Mary Christine
February 12, 2019 8:53 am

My husband’s ancestors, the Italians, are always on the winning team, eventually.

mark
mark
  Panzerlied
February 10, 2019 10:45 pm

Panzerlied…that was my point in another post.

22winmag - Unreconstructedsouthernerbygraceofgod
22winmag - Unreconstructedsouthernerbygraceofgod
  Fleabaggs
February 9, 2019 11:12 pm

Shitty Israeli-Chinese voice recognition strikes again- intire??

Uncircumcised
Uncircumcised

And in the last days, a Puerto Rican prophetess from the Bronx shall arise unto Zion bearing Bar Mitzvah gifts for all of the preteen children
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roberto
roberto
  Uncircumcised
February 10, 2019 9:31 am

I think thats the first picture i’ve seen of her with her mouth shut.

Miles Long
Miles Long
  roberto
February 10, 2019 1:24 pm

Looks like she has a mouthful of intelligent DNA & is wondering what to do with it… Spit or swallow?

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Miles Long
February 10, 2019 9:47 pm

Careful, Miley, this is not the time to go in for a frenchie (sorry, MC).

Fornigator
Fornigator
  Miles Long
February 14, 2019 12:41 am

Is that Bill Clinton’s office in the background?

Stucky
Stucky
  roberto
February 10, 2019 4:49 pm

.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  Fleabaggs
February 10, 2019 4:00 pm

So do you have a final solution for the Jewish problem?

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Martel's Hammer
February 10, 2019 9:21 pm

No, they are Gods problem. Not mine.

TheBurningTruth-get rite or get left. Behind.....
TheBurningTruth-get rite or get left. Behind.....
  Martel's Hammer
February 11, 2019 7:13 am

Yes its called Israel. (((They))) have their own country. Let them all move there and have to deal with each other’s craziness the way the rest of the world has had to do so for 2000 years or so. Doesn’t matter if they are Ashkenazi, or whatever. Go. To. Israel.

DD NM
DD NM
  Uncola
February 10, 2019 4:21 am

Musings after midnight: chillbumps again. Last night, I cobbled together a few words with a writing tool we used to call a pen on a medium we used to call paper.

One of them was a whimsical little ditty in search of something that rhymes…

Because I am a Poet and I do know it.

That “nothing new under the sun” thing was unnerving. I’ve been trying to track down the first guy that said that to someone else. I have a good idea it was what’s his name back in you know where.

Also, what I scribbled down was this… Change is the boogeyman that comes after you when you get everything settled into place.

It is almost like a line from a Stephen King novel (80s era, before he got really, uh, you know).

“Hello, you peace-loving people of the world, CHANGE is coming to town and it is building steam, coming around the mountain like a runaway train. And it has big, sharp teeth to chew your carefully constructed life into shreds.” Change is a Villain worthy of Pennywise; when either shows up, panic and mayhem often ensue.

Then, cue Eric Clapton’s Runaway Train. I’ll try to find it and end with it because I don’t want to ramble. Really, I don’t. As you know from your muse, the time to focus is upon us. I think Mary has opened up an important line of conversation here and I applaud her for doing so. I think it brave along epic lines for many reasons, some I might share sometime and others I never will.

I just realized someone longagofaraway mentioned something of note. I saw HSF’s comment about Washington’s Farewell Address, realized I have a link to it open already. It is all very interesting, this turning business.

Washington’s Farewell Address: avoiding foreign entanglements

By the way, I am thinking about growing myrhh. Anyone ever grow myrhh?

https://www.webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingredientmono-570/myrrh

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  DD NM
February 10, 2019 8:45 am

King David’s son, Solomon, the wisest man, said, “There’s nothing new under the sun.”

DD NM
DD NM
  Uncola
February 10, 2019 6:41 am

From LLPOH’s link, which is helpful, thanks.

S. 1

AN ACT
To make improvements to certain defense and security assistance provisions and to authorize the appropriation of funds to Israel, to reauthorize the United States-Jordan Defense Cooperation Act of 2015, and to halt the wholesale slaughter of the Syrian people, and for other purposes.

Sometimes, the very placement and order of the words convey meaning. When I studied words, I was told to take sentences apart word by word, sometimes separating them from companions. Wholesale slaughter just sounds like an awful thing to do, doesn’t it. Good for Israel. Give them more money.

But, that is just the intro…

Llpoh
Llpoh
  DD NM
February 10, 2019 6:48 am

DD – we should not give them or anyone else one thin dime. If they can hold it, the land is theirs. Same as it ever was. What you can keep,is yours, what you cannot is not. Nothing to do with me. And for sure nothing I want to pay for, not in money nor with blood of the young.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Llpoh
February 10, 2019 10:52 am

That is one of the points of my essay, Llpoh. Seems like Rand Paul is the only one who agrees with us.

BL
BL
  Mary Christine
February 10, 2019 11:40 am

MC- That’s because Randall is controlled op.

Uncola
Uncola
  Llpoh
February 10, 2019 6:36 pm

we should not give them or anyone else one thin dime. If they can hold it, the land is theirs. Same as it ever was. What you can keep,is yours, what you cannot is not.

Here, here. And I would be on board with that absolutely, as well.

And I would like for us to get our troops out of Syria immediately. It’s a good chance World War III could start there any day now. If it does, in spite of Mary’s observations in her piece above, I don’t believe Israel and Russia will stay friendly for long; that is if they ever were.

As I stated before, for those looking for the canary in the economic coal mine, watch Japan. And for geopolitical warfare, watch Israel. It will likely be the proxy nations surrounding Israel first. After that very possibly Russia and Iran.

Like Mary sort of says in her article: If they’re God’s chosen people, they’ll just have to prove it.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Uncola
February 10, 2019 9:11 pm

Doug, I wrote this for myself as a way to clear out all the junk that has been floating around in my head for several months. It is just one thread in the tapestry I mentioned and we can only see the back of it. Llpoh doesn’t like my slant on SB1. But later he take it apart piece by piece so I don’t have to. He tied a thread for me. You can already see it’s wrong for the government to pass this kind of legislation.

The tapestry is an old Christian analogy about the bible and how we will never be able to see it clearly on this side of the dirt.

If you haven’t heard it before, just think about what a tapestry looks like from the back. It’s looks like a mess.

“I sometimes wonder if we’re all like the proverbial blind men circling the elephant and identifying differing and various indentifers; and other times like a circular firing squad with guns and fingers pointed around in perfect 360 degrees”

Both and, Doug. Both, and.

Uncola
Uncola
  Mary Christine
February 10, 2019 9:37 pm

In spite of me being an asshole to Flea, this has been a great thread. I could have made my points more delicately, but I just didn’t want to today. Thanks again for the piece

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Uncola
February 10, 2019 9:49 pm

That’ what JWB said about the play after he shot Lincoln.

TheBurningTruth-get rite or get left. Behind.....
TheBurningTruth-get rite or get left. Behind.....
  EL Coyote
February 11, 2019 7:21 am

Should have eliminated Lincoln four or five years before. Could’ve saved at 700,000 lives then and untold millions of descendants.

I am with YO
I am with YO
  Uncola
February 10, 2019 11:54 pm

Too late, Itzik. 🙂

And b),
You seem to have many email addresses… 🙂 🙂
BTW, how many are… you? 🙂 🙂 🙂

Sic transit gloria mundi.
Next!

Yo: have a look at this:
https://www.rt.com/uk/451123-holocaust-london-park-protest/

Culpeper
Culpeper
  Mary Christine
February 11, 2019 10:21 am

Mary, I truly enjoyed your article. A lot of food for thought. I hope you continue with your research and more contributions.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  Uncola
February 12, 2019 9:54 am

” I’ll just say it really does distill down to liberty versus tyranny. ”
That’s exactly what it boils down to. People who love freedom vs. people who want to take freedom away. People who support the right to life, liberty, and property vs. those who want to steal, kill, and destroy. People who value individual free will so much that they defend others’ rights to exercise their own free will, whether or not they agree with the choice being made, vs. those who want to manipulate and coerce others out of their right to choose what’s in their generous andown best interests. People who are generous givers vs. greedy takers.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  Vigilant
February 12, 2019 10:03 am

Sorry, but trying to read this article was quite difficult because the article would disappear on the screen or else the screen would go totally black, etc. It blacked out during typing and I thought that everything got edited correctly but evidently not. Fortunately, you can figure out what I’m trying to say.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Vigilant
February 12, 2019 10:44 am

Vigilant..
That’s been happening on my cellphone for a week or two but not my laptop and only on TBP.

Aodh Macraynall
Aodh Macraynall
February 9, 2019 7:49 pm

Well, Mary Christine, you’ve done it now. You’ve taken the red pill and once you take you can’t cough it up. It will continue to do what the red pill does until it’s finished with you.

Mornings are such great times for clarity. If I ponder a problem and perhaps pray over it before I go to bed, most mornings I awaken with a solution or an answer. The other morning I awoke and another narrative became immediately clear to me. If we use the analogy of programming, well, we have been programmed to fail. If we continue to run the programs we have been handed we are going to be destroyed; every single one of us. This is what our enemy wants. Some of our programming, fairness, generosity, tolerance and like algorithms are probably genetic and these genetic programs function well when run on a platform of Cosmic order and the natural law. When the platform, or culture, has been totally destroyed, when it no longer runs according to the protocols of natural law, but, rather on the protocols of degeneracy, the programs we try to run that work in a decent society only serve to destroy us.

We are induced to run some programs written by our enemies. These are the ones which are going to do us in. Like viruses or malware, they simply hinder our purpose and, indeed, multiply until there is no room for useful work and growth. These programs, such as “liberty, equality and brotherhood” have been sent to us by people who take nothing seriously but their crotches and their guts. They introduce other programs into economic thinking; programs such as “th free market”, “soshalism iz jest a step t’ords commanism”, “libertairnism”, “th invizabul han’ ” and other such like ‘Murkan old-people algorithms.

If we do not eliminate these programs from our own minds and our society and write our own programs for success we are going to die as a people. The JOO will do everything he can to get what he wants; the complete destruction of European men and women. What form must these new programs take? I confess that I do not at this time know. I am working on that. I do know that they will be completely different from what we have been used to.

So, we will be different people? Yes, I think so. We have discussed this around our table. This is a frightening thing. If we change in ways that make us different people, well then, we won’t be the same people will we? It’s frightening to change because every change is a little death. “…Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.” This is the way of the world. Actually, this is evolution. We must change to meet the demands in front of us. If we do not rewrite our programs so that we win, Europeans will simply become an evolutionary dead-end. Great thought huh? Let’s get busy and learn to program.

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
  Aodh Macraynall
February 9, 2019 11:05 pm

Aodh et al,

I gave you a thumbs up! Great points. What you describe about the danger of the “Ism”s programming

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz9fX_HfsXA

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Aodh Macraynall
February 10, 2019 9:24 pm

“This is what our enemy wants. ” Is that Enemy or enemy? The Enemy wants us to die a second death. the enemy wants us to die the first death.

TheBurningTruth-get rite or get left. Behind.....
TheBurningTruth-get rite or get left. Behind.....
  Mary Christine
February 11, 2019 7:26 am

Our enemy wants not only you to die, (((they))) want your children, grandchildren, and your entire lineage wiped from existence and memory. And to take what is yours for them and theirs. Never forget that.

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
February 9, 2019 8:02 pm

Excellent article ! Oddly enough, I have seen nearly all of the information you’ve covered, and found myself wondering if the road you’re on is the same one Uncola took, because I feel like I’ve already worn out a pair of boots on that same road.

I just posted this on another thread this morning:

What Ned Said= TRUTH
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum-the depth of deception, and decades-long maneuvering brings on cognitive dissonance to most; so the false republicant/demonrat Hegelian directive rolls on
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Reply
February 9, 2019 12:00 pm

Yesterday, or day before, “Steve and Jana talk 1-8-19” on utube was an hour long where they discussed the Noahide law/ Talmudic law, freemason Zionists, the pope’s maneuvering and some more……

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum – I’ve been on this road for over 20 years, and I don’t feel like any discussion of current state of affairs can fail to mention the masonic/luciferian control. On the surface, when I say “it’s the freemasons” is really not much different than those who say “it’s the Jews”…….”it’s the mooslimbs”…..”it’s the Chinese”……or “it’s the Russians”: but one possible cable tow that binds them all together would be membership in an ancient, and secret society sworn to with horrific blood oaths

“Every knee shall bow……” Jesus Christ IS King

DD NM
DD NM
  ordo ab chao
February 10, 2019 4:29 am

A concise and profound saga of your twenty-plus year pathway to the truth.

DD NM
DD NM
  ordo ab chao
February 10, 2019 7:31 am

I was wondering, ordo, when and if we could get the club handbook to help us in the fight against THEM.

A close friend of mine is a Christian Zionist who travels to Israel almost annually. She is going there in April. If I asked her to do so, she would probably read and comment on this article, blogging it toward her own very “pro-Israel” following in her region of influence.

I would not want to bring undeserved scrutiny on Mary, especially first time out. Should I share it privately without the link, read her reaction to Mary’s “subject” and “Subject Matter”, which are two different things? Then, see if her reaction is one of interest? Doesn’t that make me a sort of filter/gatekeeper? Either we want other opinions of relevance or not.

Well? Mary? Shall I ask my Christian Zionist remnant protecting friend to read and comment on your article? She’s written some books, which I own but have never read. I’ve not been a disciple of saving the remnant of Israel, though I respect her right to do so.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  DD NM
February 10, 2019 10:56 am

I did not write this just to have it buried. I didn’t write it alone and I did quite a bit of praying along the way. Whenever Trunews goes into this subject they get tons of hate emails, so much so, they joke about it.

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  DD NM
February 10, 2019 1:40 pm

I’m outta my league trying to follow most of these threads that can develop on this little oasis of free thought, but I’ll give it shot. All I can do is answer from my perspective, and the “proofs” that I have are from a near lifetime of random experiences/encounters/losses…..continuing as I live and breath!

You mention the club handbook, so the one I rely on applies to both US and THEM…a King James Version of the Holy Bible:

“For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. ” Heb. 4:12

The Pharisees and Sadduccees-jews-were certainly involved in the persecution of Jesus, but there were many others that were not ! The very word ‘jew’ will conjure up a host of emotions/beliefs/definitions/historical discrepencies at the very mention of it, but from my understanding it is just a shortened term for those who were of the tribe of Judah…..so:
“The preacher sought to find out acceptable words: and that which was written was upright, even words of truth

The words of the wise are as goads, and as nails fastened by the masters of assemblies, which are given from one shepherd.

And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh.

Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.” Ecc. 12: 10-14

I am one of multitudes of people looking for the Truth ! My search began with reading a KJV, that, after twice through, I was ‘stuck on’ many aspects that seemed to make no sense. Utilizing a search engine (which is the full extent of my computer sklls), most always in the middle of a sleepless night, I came across some excellent sites that helped bring some clarity for me, and it reads more like a science fiction with fallen angels, hybrid creatures, and evil humans battling in multiple realms….and as I type this, my wife gets yet another call about yet another death…..so I’ll just stop my babblin’ here.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  ordo ab chao
February 10, 2019 8:14 pm

Read and understand Paul brother. Solomon was not aware of a fraction of that which God gave to Paul.

Follow the commandments, eh?

Romans 3:20 KJB… “Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.”

Romans 6:14-15 KJB… “For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.”

Gen – Acts… past.
Romans – Philemon… present.
Hebrews – Rev… future.

grace and peace!

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  grace country pastor
February 11, 2019 7:02 am

Gen – Acts… past.
Romans – Philemon… present.
Hebrews – Rev… future.

????

“I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me”….

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum-‘from the sweet grass to the slaughter house, we’re all just travelers here’ Open Range

DD NM
DD NM
  ordo ab chao
February 11, 2019 7:30 am

I just purchased one half of a grass fed Angus steer. He is consuming a bit of grain and taking a well-deserved break from the pasture where he has lived all his short happy life. For a week, he will eat some grain, then he will hang for a couple weeks in cold storage, having traveled from my neighbor’s barnlot to the slaughter house.

Even the steer I jokingly named Yum is just a traveler here.

https://www.britainexpress.com/History/monarchs.htm

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  DD NM
February 11, 2019 9:24 am

Yum, Yum…..my wife’s son, with just a little help from his mom, grabbed a well built rural home with 5 acres yrs. ago. He has always raised two calves on primarily grain. You can distinctly smell the sweet grain in the hamburger as it cooks, and cut a ribeye with a fork…..

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum- sticking my nose in, upon some reflection, I would suggest that your friend be approached in person first, the subject matter is of great contention, incredibly complex (IMO), and in today’s satanically charged world people can get all bent out of shape even discussing gender. My two cents

DD NM
DD NM
  ordo ab chao
February 11, 2019 7:18 pm

Worth at least a 1961 dime.

By the way, Mary Christine, if you are reading here… my Christian Zionist zealot friend did a blind read of your piece and told me I should distance myself because whether you know it or not, you are anti-Semitic.

Seriously, I’ll email you her response if you want to see it. Her granddaughter belongs to Chabad in NYC, she says. Really. She doesn’t like you now and quite possibly may be cursing you in Yiddish.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  ordo ab chao
February 11, 2019 12:31 pm

Great question marks!

2 Timothy 2:15 KJB… “Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.”

You have not yet been exposed to the mystery revealed to Paul. If interested I’d encourage you to visit my own website and begin reading here…

What mystery?

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  grace country pastor
February 11, 2019 5:41 pm

I went there, read through up to ‘saved, now what’ (I think). I will be back, and will most likely leave comments as I go through (I didn’t even notice the comment section till I was down into it a ways).

We are in agreement in the efficacious sacrifice of Christ, and with Paul being sent to the Gentiles, but as you interpret the ‘mystery’, you seem to limit the power of Almighty God: “and I will put enmity between thy seed, and the seed of the woman”.

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum- I’ll post more at your site and maybe that will easier to visit bout it…..

Thanks for answering my question, and for the link

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  ordo ab chao
February 11, 2019 5:50 pm

I’ll look forward to it!

DD NM
DD NM
  ordo ab chao
February 10, 2019 8:22 pm

thanks for the great comment

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  ordo ab chao
February 10, 2019 10:27 pm

Ordo says “I’m outta my league”

No, Ordo, that would be me. I waded in too deep and now it looks like I’m drowning.

DD NM
DD NM
  Mary Christine
February 11, 2019 7:21 am

We will not let you go quietly into that good night, Mary. We will rage against the dying of the light.

I don’t know if you remember the farmer’s comment about your first time out, but you reminded him you’d posted before.

But, those weren’t exactly the same, were they?

It really is something people want to talk about. Maybe it is time. You will be honored in legendary history, like Joan of Arc and Winefride. Perhaps you will become mythical, like Deborah.

Or, perhaps we will finally get some sunshine out here in rainy-state and get our herb beds mulched and ready for spring.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  DD NM
February 11, 2019 9:46 am

“Or, perhaps we will finally get some sunshine out here in rainy-state and get our herb beds mulched and ready for spring.”

Sunshine? What the hell is that? I’m living for Wednesday when we might get a warm sunny day, then back to more crappy weather.

Culpeper
Culpeper
  Mary Christine
February 11, 2019 10:33 am

Hopefully they are still calling for a halfway descent Wed. I had total hip replacement 2 Jan and glad I did because winter would be a good time to stay in and not miss anything…but damn!!!! It is even difficult to get out for Drs appointments and therapy. Have not seen ice like this for a LONG time. Wish I owned a body shop and a tow truck. Would have made a killing so far. I am probably about 15 miles from you, Mary.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Culpeper
February 11, 2019 2:34 pm

15 miles is nothing, Culpeper. I’m regularly doing 50 each way into the city at least every other week. If you want to get together, email Admin, and we can arrange something.

Hope you are doing well with your recovery.

DD NM
DD NM
  Mary Christine
February 11, 2019 7:27 pm

We are planning a trip your way in March.

Panzerlied
Panzerlied
  Mary Christine
February 11, 2019 10:26 am

Never fear, truth dispels the lies and deception, just as light dispels the darkness. Your article is to be commended and may it be only the beginning of your illumination, as more is revealed to you through the Holy Spirit. Above all, in your journey, you are admonished to pray without ceasing and pray for the gift of discernment, that you can discern the truth from a lie and recognize those deceivers who look like sheep but are actually ravenous wolves seeking to devour.

Panzerlied
Panzerlied
  DD NM
February 11, 2019 10:19 am

DD NM
Unfortunately, your friend has been drinking the cyanide spiked Kool-aid that is offered to all of the unsuspecting goyim that believes the codswallop disseminated by the Zionist Christian group that somehow Turko-Mongol, Ashkenazi Khazarians are magically inserted into our Christian Bible and even somehow chosen as part of the “remnant” that will remain after the SHTF. I’d suggest having her research this subject thoroughly before exposing her to the educated here on TBP. Begin by finding out how much that fat tub of lard Hagee gets paid by Israhell to lead the sheep astray. That’d be a good start.

DD NM
DD NM
  Panzerlied
February 12, 2019 8:57 am

I am still reeling from her reaction. It is a side of her I’d not seen.

Steve C
Steve C
February 9, 2019 8:26 pm

Mary Christine – This is an excellent article and well written.

I think that most everyone on TBP realizes that something is wrong in America-Land. That something is happening not for us, but to us. Something doesn’t resonate, but what? And how?

I have long been of the mind that it is what I call the changing of the guard. It has all been planned and we are just acting out our parts. I wrote an essay about it a year and a half ago and Jim was kind enough to post it on TBP a year ago last November.

There is a fundamental shift in power at the root of this.

We have had our turn as the world’s most powerful nation both militarily and economically just as Great Britain did before us. I expect that it is about to be China and Russia’s turn. A changing of the guard.

Your essay has me thinking a lot about the two and adds the element of Israel’s part in it. Our thoughts seem to end up in the same place, but how do they tell us what we can do if anything about what has been done to us, is continuing to be done to us, and most importantly what is about to be done to us?

Anticipating is always better than reacting.

As you said, we can’t wait for our elected leaders to come to our rescue. The cavalry isn’t coming. We will have to do it ourselves.

Most of the electorate is likely compromised (blackmailed) and those at the top (the Clintons, Obama’s, Trumps, Bush’s, etc.) probably think that they will be among the chosen few. I disagree. When everything goes to hell the people are going to be genuinely pissed off that we were sold out and those assholes will not only be expendable to the real powers, they’ll be downright disposable. They will be fed to the masses and torn to shreds.

It will be hard to shed a tear for any of them, but the distraction will allow the real enemy to escape.

I like that you gave reference to Catherine Austin Fitts. I agree that her work is excellent. James Corbett is also a great source for information.

If you get a chance, I would appreciate your thoughts (and other TBP folks) on what I wrote in that essay. Some things might seem a bit dated, but I wrote it in August of 2017. You can find it here:

The Changing Of The Guard – Are We Headed Towards War With Korea Or Iran?

I am still in the process of watching and reading all of your links.

Thanks so much for writing this.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Steve C
February 10, 2019 9:30 pm

Are we headed for war with Iran? I don’t know, looks like maybe we are. I will read your piece, Steve.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Mary Christine
February 10, 2019 9:56 pm

Considering the confluence of the military exercises in LA and the looming government shutdown, we can anticipate a ‘surgical strike’ in Venezuela which will serve as a warning to Iran as well as Russia and China. NK will fold like a cheap Uncola.

TheBurningTruth-get rite or get left. Behind.....
TheBurningTruth-get rite or get left. Behind.....
  EL Coyote
February 11, 2019 7:36 am

NK is no more a threat to the US than Canada. NK is played as a boogeyman because they do not kowtow to the international (((banking))) system. Both Russia and China are playing the long game for keeps. USA is going to collapse economically during this 4th turning like the USSR did in the 80’s/90’s. It will be ugly for us. Prepare accordingly.

Steve
Steve
February 9, 2019 8:41 pm

The collection of jews related to 9/11 is staggering. It virtually all points to their involvement and coordination.

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
February 9, 2019 9:35 pm

I am about half way through this amazing, highly informative piece.

Whenever you quote Catherine Austin-Fitts, you have my attention.

I had to post this video I watched today,
When you experience a “synchronicity” you must respond accordingly.

A MUST WATCH

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Platoplubius
February 9, 2019 10:42 pm

Plato..
Good video.
Israel and China through joint projects are the world leaders in Facial Recognition and AI technology aided and abetted by us willingly transferring secrets.
Huwei is the only company in the world with a complete array of 5G technology including cell towers.

22winmag - Unreconstructedsouthernerbygraceofgod
22winmag - Unreconstructedsouthernerbygraceofgod
  Fleabaggs
February 9, 2019 11:10 pm

Thankfully facial recognition is still in it’s infancy. Hopefully it dies there!

Thankfully AI is a joke and will remain a joke for a long time.

However, phone, voice, text, and cell phone hacking is no joke and Israel has been at that for decades with a little help from the RED COMMIE CHINKS.

Platoplubius
Platoplubius

22 wingman,

Underestimate the power and significance of quantum computing and artificial intelligence at your own peril.

Give it a decade and we will see Pre-Crime where people who meet a specific criteria associated to an established profile of someone who commits a crime,will be arrested before any possible crime has been committed….they received enough “red ” flags or dislikes and are arrested…

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Platoplubius
February 10, 2019 12:43 am

Plato..
Yup. They are defining the wider parameters now. We are in the middle of the circle. People who knew us in passing are at the outer edge. At some point, barring divine intervention they will be at the center. I try to meet as many progs as possible now so when I pass into the after life I can enjoy watching the shocked expression when they are hauled in.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Fleabaggs
February 10, 2019 2:09 am

Fleabo, passing into the afterlife, you will not enjoy watching anything here. Dead is dead.

Death Comes to Good and Bad
…5For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing. They have no further reward, because the memory of them is forgotten. 6Their love, their hate, and their envy have already vanished, and they will never again have a portion in all that is done under the sun.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  EL Coyote
February 10, 2019 3:07 am

That was a pun.

22winmag - Unreconstructedsouthernerbygraceofgod
22winmag - Unreconstructedsouthernerbygraceofgod
  Platoplubius
February 10, 2019 5:25 pm

I watched the video and was not impressed, genuinely informed, or made to feel overly concerned.

I view it as just a self-justifying, self-aggrandizing puff piece.

The way I see it, the only things expanding at an exponential rate are the screeching sounds coming from academic circlejerk echo chambers AND the breadth and depth of UTTER BULLSHIT coming out of mainstream science.

Just like hoaxed atomic bombs, the value in AI and scary Black Mirror tech lies more or less completely in the propaganda and intimidation it creates.

It’s still motivated boots on the ground and rusty, 50 year old rifles that win insurgencies and hold ground in guerilla warfare. The equivalent holds true with science and knowledge. Let’s get back to intellectual boots on the ground and intellectual 50 year old rifles before what’s left of science goes over the edge- and we are left with the intellectual equivalent of the US Military- a grossly inflated and overweight dangerous joke, off the rails, and in serious decline.

Call me an intellectual Luddite and get back to me when mankind touches something that doesn’t end up Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition. AI and Black Mirror tech is not immune to the human FUBAR touch, it’s actually much more PRONE to it.

GOOD GRIEF! Listen to the speaker’s MASSIVE CONTRADICTION at the 21:00 minute mark!

“Most men will not swim before they are able to.” Is that not witty? Naturally, they won’t swim! They are born for the solid earth, not for the water. And naturally they wont think. They are made for life, not for thought. Yes, and he who thinks, what’s more, he who makes thought his business, he may go far in it, but he has bartered the solid earth for the water all the same, and one day he will drown.” -Hermann Hesse

Platoplubius
Platoplubius

@ 22 wingman

Not sure what you’re referring to at the 21 minute mark…

What contradiction?

22winmag - Unreconstructedsouthernerbygraceofgod
22winmag - Unreconstructedsouthernerbygraceofgod
  Platoplubius
February 10, 2019 8:09 pm

The part about having [hoaxed] atomic bombs without a delivery system- and how it’s pretty much only good for blowing yourself up.

Just like…

The part about having a [hoaxed] information tsunami doubling every 12 hours (are we really expected to believe this crockpot of shit?)- and how it’s pretty much only good for blowing yourself up.

Everything that makes the mainstream news is from TOP to BOTTOM, from LEFT to RIGHT, either hoaxed, grossly misrepresented, spun senseless, or all three. AI and Black Mirror tech is no different. I don’t believe a fucking word of it. Literally zero hard science in the video- and certainly nothing that would stand up to a genuine application of the scientific method, which itself is DEAD as a STONE, along with MATH and CRITICAL THINKING.

Platoplubius
Platoplubius

22 wingman,

Take a deep breath, it’s okay.

I’m not quite sure your assessment of the video is remotely close to accurate.

There is plenty of HARD SCIENCE in the video!

I bet you didn’t watch it and listen, just thumbed through it and found someone’s words and used them out of context.
Shameful and lame.

Artificial intelligence is already here so your incessant denial of its future potential considering the exponential nature of quantum mechanics and computing is rooted in either fear, denial or ignorance… just look at how technology has exploded in the past decade alone,
nano technology and micronization techniques, 3d printers , being able to stack “atoms”…crisper gene editing tech and on and on and on.

Watson, Alexa, Siri, Sophia, c’mon man. The mainstreaming is used to sell the products, and establish trust with the Public….

Quantum entanglement is a very real force of the underlying “field” within our universe. These breakthroughs are providing the HARD SCIENCE that many of the topics discussed in the video above are rooted in.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Platoplubius
February 10, 2019 9:13 pm

Plato..
Right. IBM has a functional Quantum supercomputer. Who knows what Israel and China Or Russia have. The Beast Monetary system is in the pipeline, even if it goes by another name the time is near for the world wide money system. When 5G infastructure is far enough along look for it.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Platoplubius
February 10, 2019 9:31 pm

That was a really interesting video, Plato. It just adds to what I have already learned, so far.

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
  Mary Christine
February 10, 2019 10:40 pm

M.C.,

That’s why I referred to viewing it less than 24 hours before reading your article as a “synchronicity”

syn·chro·nic·i·ty
/ˌsiNGkrəˈnisədē/Submit
noun
1.
the simultaneous occurrence of events which appear significantly related but have no discernible causal connection.

Thank you for your time and thoughts. Much love in your life journey, from a fellow life traveler.

Brewer55
Brewer55
February 9, 2019 10:23 pm

Wow, after reading your essay and, most of the well-written posts regarding it my head hurts! Whenever I believe that I am starting to get a handle of what lies at the core of the onion, having peeled back so many layers over the last several years, I find that the onion is still much larger than I originally thought. As a Christian, like you MC, I get a twitch when I hear what at first appears to be plain old antisemitism. When you mentioned TruNews and Rick Wiles, I almost ended reading the article right there. I used to listen to him but, IMHO, he is an anti-Semite and a part of a growing segment of the Christian population that believes we are to straighten things out before our Savior returns. I believe this is false teaching but, I’m not going to go down that rabbit hole here.

On another note, regarding the country I thought I knew and that I grew up with (I’m a “young” senior!) I find that I am continually taken to new lows. Lost “trillions” are now thrown around the way millions were not too many years ago. 1 trillion; 21 trillion — what difference does it make with numbers that huge! Either the former or latter will fund whatever for whatever length of time is needed. I do know that it sickens me to the core on what nefarious actions are being committed around the world with that money. And, all the blood and treasure that has been lost because of it.

I’ve made alternative news, like TBP, and many other YouTube subscriptions, blogs, newsletters, etc., my source for news for many years now. A few along the way have been scrapped; a few have been picked up. One thing that is for certain, it is getting more and more difficult to keep ones head up and much prayer to discern the truth in what is being written. I’m not confident any of us have a complete handle on it but, I will endeavor to continue to seek the truth, wherever it leads me.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Brewer55
February 9, 2019 10:50 pm

Brewery..
You are still badly blue balled. Israeli Jews are not Semites. Hagee Zionists may believe they have to make the world safe for Jesus but Denoon and Wiles are Anti-Zionists not anti Semites. I have never heard them say will you claim although I don’t watch them often because they are lagging indicators.

Charles
Charles
  Fleabaggs
February 10, 2019 1:18 am

Hagee Zionists believe Jehovah and Yeshua installed the modern state of Israel. Can you prove otherwise?

Isaiah 66:8
Who has ever heard of such things? Who has ever seen things like this? Can a country be born in a day or a nation be brought forth in a moment? Yet no sooner is Zion in labor than she gives birth to her children.

May 14, 1948

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Charles
February 10, 2019 3:12 am

I said they may, as in maybe and maybe not I don’t listen to their sermons.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Fleabaggs
February 10, 2019 5:31 pm

flea,
w/o taking a position on either side of your argument,israeli jews are semitic,according to wiki–

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_ethnic_divisions

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  TampaRed
February 10, 2019 5:46 pm

Tampa…
John’s Hopkins did a study of DNA samples from Jews and Palistinians and others in Israel. Turns out Palistinians have more Jewish DNA than Jews.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Fleabaggs
February 10, 2019 8:00 pm

i’ve no reason to dispute that flea,it makes sense since only a small % of palestinians have left the middle east but large %s of jews left the mideast,for various reasons–
i tossed that up there because the majority of european jews do have semitic dna,no matter how much it’s been diluted,which means that they can claim to be blood jews,as opposed to being the descendants of converted jews–

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  TampaRed
February 10, 2019 9:21 pm

Tampa..
Hopkins didn’t set out to look for that in particular. The study concerned something else but I don’t recall what. One of the Ivy League Colleges also did a similar one at about the same time. The amount of DNA was barely more than the Cherokee Princess from New England. Maybe a Nineteenth Century Milkman.

Unreconstructed
Unreconstructed
  Brewer55
February 10, 2019 10:58 am

I remember years ago Senator Everett Dirksen’s (sp) tongue-in-cheek comment on the federal budget , ” …a million here, a million there and pretty soon you’re talking big bucks. If he could only see today.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Brewer55
February 10, 2019 10:23 pm

“a part of a growing segment of the Christian population that believes we are to straighten things out before our Savior returns”

Wiles is a bit of a charismatic but he is NOT a dominionist. I guess if I want to say I think Israel is wrong about something it makes me an anti-semite. I’m yawning now. I need to go to bed.

DD NM
DD NM
  Mary Christine
February 11, 2019 7:36 pm

Mary Christine, I just opened the first of what may end up being several emails from my friend from the Family of Families group in OKC who is the Christian Zionist travelling to Israel, again. So, she don’t like your points much. She declared that the author (uh, that’s you M.C.) “was anti-Semitic whether she knows it or not.”

I replied that I would ask if I can share her thoughts publicly here. It might be very interesting to see what she takes offense to, would it not?

And, uh, she accused you of Replacement Theology.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  DD NM
February 11, 2019 8:16 pm

I would direct her to a couple of scriptures if I wasn’t cooking dinner while my husband finishes up an extra long work day. Let me get back to you on that by email. I can post the scripture later if GCP doesn’t beat me to it.

M G
M G
  Mary Christine
November 24, 2019 9:38 am

Dear Mary Christine, I was scrolling through the ocean of comments on your Awful Truth essay and was reminded you never got back to answer this question and Grace County Pastor didn’t show either.

So, Replacement Theology discussion from 10 months ago…

Llpoh
Llpoh
February 9, 2019 10:25 pm

The author says above “Apparently, nothing else was as important as this bill, which makes it illegal to criticize Israel.”

That is an outright lie. Here is the link to the Act: https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/1/text. Please point out the part where that is made law.

Please point out the bit about the loyalty oath. Not there either. What bullshit is the author trying to feed her readers?

The author clearly did not read the Act, as that shit she attributes is not in there. At. All. There is no act or law in the US making it illegal to criticise Israel.

I stopped reading at that point. The author clearly is parrotting false information gleaned somewhere or another.

To save you readers time, this is the section that grants states the right to not use contractors that boycott Israel, and the requirements that have to be met. Note there are no clauses about criticizing Israel, nor are there any clauses about a loyalty oath. That is a bunch of shit. Part B describes what is prohibited, and it sure as hell is not speach, nor is any loyatoath required. That is some fucked up shit the author has posted as though it is true.

SEC. 402. NONPREEMPTION OF MEASURES BY STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO DIVEST FROM ENTITIES THAT ENGAGE IN CERTAIN BOYCOTT, DIVESTMENT, OR SANCTIONS ACTIVITIES TARGETING ISRAEL OR PERSONS DOING BUSINESS IN ISRAEL OR ISRAELI-CONTROLLED TERRITORIES.
(a) State And Local Measures.—Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a State or local government may adopt and enforce measures that meet the requirements of subsection (c) to divest the assets of the State or local government from, prohibit investment of the assets of the State or local government in, or restrict contracting by the State or local government for goods and services with—

(1) an entity that the State or local government determines, using credible information available to the public, knowingly engages in an activity described in subsection (b);

(2) a successor entity or subunit of an entity described in paragraph (1); or

(3) an entity that owns or controls or is owned or controlled by an entity described in paragraph (1).

(b) Activities Described.—An activity described in this subsection is a commerce-related or investment-related boycott, divestment, or sanctions activity in the course of interstate or international commerce that is intended to penalize, inflict economic harm on, or otherwise limit commercial relations with Israel or persons doing business in Israel or Israeli-controlled territories for purposes of coercing political action by, or imposing policy positions on, the Government of Israel.

(c) Requirements.—A State or local government that seeks to adopt or enforce a measure under subsection (a) shall meet the following requirements:

(1) NOTICE.—The State or local government shall provide written notice—

(A) in the case of a measure relating to divestment or investment, to each entity to which the measure is to be applied; and

(B) in the case of a measure relating to contracting, of the restrictions imposed by the measure to each prospective contractor before entering into a contract.

(2) TIMING.—A measure relating to divestment or investment shall apply to an entity not earlier than the date that is 90 days after the date on which written notice is provided to the entity under paragraph (1).

(3) OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMENT.—In the case of a measure relating to divestment or investment, the State or local government shall provide an opportunity to comment in writing to each entity to which the measure is to be applied. If the entity demonstrates to the State or local government that neither the entity nor any entity related to the entity as described in paragraph (2) or (3) of subsection (a) has knowingly engaged in an activity described in subsection (b), the measure shall not apply to the entity.

(4) DISCLOSURE IN CONTRACTING MEASURES.—The State or local government may require, in a measure relating to contracting, that a prospective contractor disclose whether the prospective contractor or any entity related to the prospective contractor as described in paragraph (2) or (3) of subsection (a) knowingly engages in any activity described in subsection (b) before entering into a contract.

(5) SENSE OF CONGRESS ON AVOIDING ERRONEOUS TARGETING.—It is the sense of Congress that a State or local government should not adopt a measure under subsection (a) with respect to an entity unless the State or local government has made every effort to avoid erroneously targeting the entity and has verified that the entity engages in an activity described in subsection (b).

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
  Llpoh
February 9, 2019 11:39 pm

LLPOH,

How’s one of those 5 eyes in Australia?

You argue semantics, no it doesn’t make it illegal, yet interestingly enough it does outline consequences for …

(b) Activities Described.—An activity described in this subsection is a commerce-related or investment-related boycott, divestment, or sanctions activity in the course of interstate or international commerce that is intended to penalize, inflict economic harm on, or otherwise limit commercial relations with Israel or persons doing business in Israel or Israeli-controlled territories for purposes of coercing political action by, or imposing policy positions on, the Government of Israel.

Nothing to see here folks, it’s just for states and entities

(1) an entity that the State or local government determines, using credible information available to the public, knowingly engages in an activity described in subsection (b);

Nothing to see here folks as LLPOH suggests.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Platoplubius
February 10, 2019 1:11 am

Plato – I suggest no such thing.

What I object to is that she outright lies when she says 1) it is illegal to criticise Israel, and 2) they have to sign an oath of loyalty. Fuck me dead, that is not semantics. Those are blatant lies. If she wanted to comment on how that legislation is bullshit, and use what is actually in the legislation to make a case, fine by me.

But what she did is intellectually, and scholarly, dishonest. She states absolute, unequivocal lies, then makes a case presumptively based on those lies. It really does not get more dishonest than that.

And the activites in subsection B have zero to do with criticising Israel, which you of course omit to detail:
“An activity described in this subsection is a commerce-related or investment-related boycott, divestment, or sanctions activity in the course of interstate or international commerce that is intended to penalize, inflict economic harm on, or otherwise limit commercial relations with Israel or persons doing business in Israel or Israeli-controlled territories for purposes of coercing political action by, or imposing policy positions on, the Government of Israel.” Clearly, contractors can criticise Israel to their heart’s content, with no repercussion whatsoever.

There may be something to see here, but it sure as hell has zero to do with free speech or having to sign loyalty oaths. Hell, it does not even mean a contractor cannot boycott Israel, if your position is not to try to coerce or impose policy positions. Not sure how they would determine that, though.

For me there are two issues demonstrated by the Act: 1) the act de facto acknowledges the right to boycott, etc., and 2) they are granting the right to states to not do business with those that do, if such action is meant to coerce or impose policy decisions.

I am happy excercising both of those rights when running my business, though I do not care what politics my customers or suppliers have. However granting states the right to refuse to do business with you because of your political views seems like a road to hell.

That is a discussion worth having.

But starting out by blatantly falsifying what is in the Act is bullshit.

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
  Llpoh
February 10, 2019 1:27 am

LLPOH ,

A bit sensationalistic, with her description of the act, I cannot argue with your assessment of this.

Carry on…

LLPOH said,

However granting states the right to refuse to do business with you because of your political views seems like a road to hell.

That is a discussion worth having.

Within the greater context mentioned, like U.S. foreign aid to Israel and issues like dual citizens working in halls of governments where many contracts are bid upon and divied out, i don’t think we should lose sight of this aspect of the narrative she attempts to convey.

October Sky
October Sky
  Llpoh
February 10, 2019 2:12 am

What I object to is that she outright lies when she says 1) it is illegal to criticise Israel, and 2) they have to sign an oath of loyalty.

Mary Christine did not lie.

Senator Van Hollen made a statement objecting Rubio’s push for government to punish those who express their 1st Amendment rights and oppose oaths of loyalty to Israel.

The senator from Florida wants to use the power of the state to punish American citizens who disagree with him on this issue. It’s right here in the bill. Let me read some of the relevant parts.

A state may adopt and enforce measures… to restrict contracting by the state for goods and services with — any entity that… knowingly engages in…boycott activity… intended to limit commercial relations with Israel or persons doing business in Israel or Israeli-controlled territories for purposes of imposing policy positions on, the Government of Israel.

So how does this new provision encourage states to retaliate against American citizens? It encourages states to pass laws to deny their citizens the right to bid on any state contracts unless, unless those citizens sign an oath stating that they do not or will not engage in any boycott of Israel — including any boycott relating the sale or purchase of goods or services from Israeli settlements in the West Bank.

Rubio’s further push:

“Opposition to our bill isn’t about free speech. Companies are FREE to boycott Israel. But state and local governments should be FREE to end contracts with companies that do.”

Van Hollen’s objection:

This reflects a profound misunderstanding of the First Amendment. It turns the First Amendment on its head. It’s is like saying to our fellow Americans, you are free to peacefully express yourselves however want, but the government is then free to use the power of the state to punish you for doing so.

https://www.vanhollen.senate.gov/news/press-releases/van-hollen-statement-on-s1-strengthening-americas-security-in-the-middle-east-act-of-2019-

Llpoh
Llpoh
  October Sky
February 10, 2019 6:36 am

1) the act applies to businesses only. People here generally do not want to include businesses as people.

2) i have the right to boycott, as well as to reject business from organizations that I do not want to do business with, save for a few exceptions. The case can be argued that as govt is elected by the people, then the govt has also the right to reject business. I diasagree with that. But it can be argued.

The author categorically said 1) the act made criticism of Isreal illegal, and 2) that an oath of loyalty had to be sworn. Both those statements are categorically untrue, and were made under the umbrella that she knew what was in the Act, and were made to support her position. It is a disgraceful and dishonest way to argue a position, in my opinion.

Rubio and Van Hollen were having a debate. That is one thing, and both positions can be argued, with some substance. The author did not do that – she falsely stated what is in the act to support her narrative. That is a horse of a different color indeed.

splurge
splurge
  Llpoh
February 11, 2019 5:27 pm

“Corporations are people too”
Mitt Romney

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Llpoh
February 10, 2019 12:02 am

I understand that my comments do not suit the narrative being promoted. But if anyone can substantiate the comments the author made about it is now illegal to criticise Israel, or that oaths of loyalty must be sworn, please do,so, and I will retract. But fact is, both of those claims are false, and the author would have known that had she done even the most cursory of research. I can only assume she believe the propaganda that someone fed her.

There is truly plenty wrong with the world. But to try to justify a position or conclusion via the use of outright lies is dishonest in the extreme.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Llpoh
February 10, 2019 9:35 pm

You can call me Mary if you want to. But “the author” works, too.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Mary Christine
February 10, 2019 9:52 pm

I am trying not to make it too personal. I appreciate that you made the effort.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Llpoh
February 10, 2019 10:20 pm

Oh, thanks, dear. You’re so kind.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Mary Christine
February 10, 2019 9:59 pm
DD NM
DD NM
  Llpoh
February 10, 2019 4:48 am

LLPOH, at one time I was the files manager for a huge pile of data. I had all sorts of policy guidelines on what sort of action certain words implied I could, should or would do.

You cited the text and I agree there appears to be a lot of room for disregarding all of the above if you so choose, as a contractor or by any other type of “actor” in the drama. However, I think the very title probably has some of those words that signal to an office administrator somewhere whether or not it is actually “law.”

You would need to track down that person at the contractor and ask them how they interpret its meaning and how the company will interpret its meaning.

Since most of us are reluctant to even say the term “Jewish Question” in polite, Christian company, I am betting an act or regulation (is what it becomes down the line) with the Sacred Name of the Holy Land in the block title suggests something special about ISRAEL, don’t you think?

NONPREEMPTION OF MEASURES BY STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO DIVEST FROM ENTITIES THAT ENGAGE IN CERTAIN BOYCOTT, DIVESTMENT, OR SANCTIONS ACTIVITIES TARGETING ISRAEL OR PERSONS DOING BUSINESS IN ISRAEL OR ISRAELI-CONTROLLED TERRITORIES

I will go back and actually read the text and then decide if MC made a mistake based on flawed evidence or whether it is a point of view disconnect. A different kind of cognitive disconnect.

DD NM
DD NM
  DD NM
February 10, 2019 6:13 am

Sometimes those corporate policies perceived any threat to divest them of the milk and honey flowing from Mordor. If the threat could be avoided completed by not mentioning the Sauron in the room, no one mentioned him. The next thing we all knew, the issue itself became a sacred cow.

DD NM
DD NM
  Llpoh
February 10, 2019 1:41 pm

I believe “HYPERBOLE” is more than defensible regarding speech of both political and religious nature and think most people would agree that some business owners might view the wording as threatening should they be anti-Israel in their advertising behavior.

Because it is what it is all about to the people interpreting the law for the mass man. Advertising dollars and tax revenue. MC has good reason to think the potential for violating the act is enough to alter (not altar) corporate behavior.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
February 9, 2019 10:49 pm

This was quite the topic selection for your first stand alone, sorta like running through a mine field with a lawn mower. You could here my jaw drop from low Earth orbit. And you closed with Pink Floyd’s existential takedown of the post modern world? To like, what’s not?

I throw my lot in with George Washington when it comes to foreign entanglements, but nobody asks me.

I am really looking forward to more.

22winmag - Unreconstructedsouthernerbygraceofgod
22winmag - Unreconstructedsouthernerbygraceofgod
  Hardscrabble Farmer
February 9, 2019 11:04 pm

I’ve been dropping a few major typographical and usage brainfarts lately.

Were you another victim of faulty voice recognition on the “You could here my jaw drop…” passage?

DD NM
DD NM
  Hardscrabble Farmer
February 10, 2019 5:26 am

Washington’s Farewell Address: avoiding foreign entanglements

This was/is open in my tabs when I read this… is one of the first things I thought of and read.

Washington’s Farewell Address: avoiding foreign entanglements

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Hardscrabble Farmer
February 10, 2019 11:09 am

It’s not my first. It’s my third and not the one I am the most proud of. I put this out here specifically to start a discussion and I am open to admitting I or people in my links may be wrong about something.

22winmag - The South was Right!
22winmag - The South was Right!
February 9, 2019 10:50 pm

Fantastic piece.

Far more worthy than the endless softball-PSYOP pieces that clog the interwebs and end up infiltrating this much-esteemed blog.

Thank you for reminding me how much influence DAJ00Z had, and still have over the GODLESS RED COMMIE CHINKS. Intentionally or not, you raise the alarm that team USSA is in clear and present danger of getting dumped by Israel in favor of a new whore, China. Lastly, Noahide laws- WTF?

Below are a few proofreading markups which are in no way critical of the content or message.

I’m talking really minor shit. The overall usage and structure is rock solid, even eloquent at times.

Use single quotation marks inside double quotation marks and vice versa.

Commas fall within quotation marks except when separating quotes.

We need to identify the Enemy because, if we do not know who our Enemy is, we lose.
We need to identify our Enemy, because if we do not know who the Enemy is, we lose.

If it were it would not violate all of the Mosaic Laws and all twelve tribes would be living there.
If it were, it would not violate all of the Mosaic Laws, and all twelve tribes would be living there.

If we miss that chance, our children and grandchildren can point the finger at us and ask us why, if we knew this was happening, we did nothing.
[Suggested]
If we miss that chance, our children and grandchildren may point the finger at us and ask “Why, if you knew this was happening, did you do nothing?”

Why, if the State of Israel is doing nothing wrong is this even necessary? We can criticize our own government or any other nation in the world except this one?
[Suggested]
Why, if the State of Israel is doing nothing wrong, is this even necessary? Why can we not criticize the Israeli government, just as we criticize our own government and the governments of other nations?

Personally, I think it is a type of extortion, or bribery to allow us to not only have military bases abroad, but to commit who knows what kind of nefarious activities that will benefit who?
[Suggested]
Personally, I think it is a type of extortion or bribery to allow us not only to have military bases abroad, but to commit who knows what kind of nefarious activities. This is to the benefit who[m]?

anarchyst
anarchyst
  22winmag - The South was Right!
February 10, 2019 5:19 am

It’s the same thing as certain countries do, elevating the jewish “holohoax” (oops, I mean “holocaust”) to the status of a “religion” in which no honest investigation is permitted. Look up Ursula Haverbeck, Monika Schaefer, and Sylvia Stolz. All three women are serving “hard time” in German maximum-security prisons for daring to question questionable and outlandish aspects of the so-called jewish “holocaust”. In their trials, evidence and PROOF of inconsistencies in the jewish “holocaust” story by the defense was not permitted to be entered into evidence as a court-imposed doctrine of “judicial notice” was invoked. “Judicial notice” is used to outlaw the introduction of evidence (TRUTH) if it runs counter to “commonly accepted beliefs”, EVEN IF SUCH “BELIEFS” CAN BE PROVEN FALSE. This is “holocaustianity” at its finest…the TRUTH be damned.
The jewish “holocaust” is in dire need of being investigated without regard to where “the chips may fall”…
“jewish lampshades, jewish soap and jewish shrunken heads, oh my”…lol

TheBurningTruth-get rite or get left. Behind.....
TheBurningTruth-get rite or get left. Behind.....
  anarchyst
February 11, 2019 7:47 am

You mean the holohoax…better and more “truthfully accurate”.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  22winmag - The South was Right!
February 10, 2019 9:38 pm

22, Can I hire you to edit my next piece, should I dare to write another?

I had two editors, and no matter how much affection I have for both of them, they failed me. But that’s ok, the affection is still there.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Mary Christine
February 10, 2019 10:45 pm

Mary C..
Did you ask them to look it over and give some feedback on content or did you ask them to edit for punctuation and sentence structure. It’s important to ask because you may be asking a 9th grade dropout.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Fleabaggs
February 11, 2019 12:37 am

One was a content editor and the other was punctuation and spelling.
Lol.. and both were free so I’m not complaining.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Mary Christine
February 11, 2019 1:02 am

The content got you 310 comments in 31 hours, pretty good freebie.

22winmag - Unreconstructedsouthernerbygraceofgod
22winmag - Unreconstructedsouthernerbygraceofgod
  Mary Christine
February 11, 2019 2:03 am

Mary, I was once a proofreader back when good English mattered. A proofreader’s goal is to correct things so they conform to the rules of English. A proofreader may also suggest the revamping of passages and sentences with difficult or incorrect structure. That’s it. We never seek to modify an author’s content or meaning.

Editors are a whole different animal. They add, subtract, and modify content and meaning- often without the authors knowledge or consent before something goes to print.

mark
mark
February 9, 2019 10:57 pm

Mary,
Just finished a quick once over, no time today/tonight for the links, company just left, but the depth and breadth is fascinating and I will dig in tomorrow afternoon.

I have various files where I stash links of interest and contribution to that subject: 9/11, FED, DEW, Prep, gardening, etc., this is going in the file labeled, The Jewish Question.

Looking forward to putting on my helmet light and mine your efforts.

DD NM
DD NM
  mark
February 10, 2019 5:28 am

you seemed a good spelunker from the moment I saw you climb aboard

anarchyst
anarchyst
February 9, 2019 11:24 pm

It’s time to dissect “holocaustianity” and set the record straight on this massive “fraud of the 20th century”…

There is NOT ONE DOCUMENT outlining any extermination plan for jews or others. In fact, prominent Zionists collaborated with the German government and formulated plans at the highest level of the German government for the transfer of jews to what was then known as Palestine. Absolutely nothing was noted about extermination.

Official International Red Cross figures for all camp deaths total around 731,000-NOT 6,000,000. In fact, population totals pre-WW2 and post-WW2 show an INCREASE in the jewish population in post-WW2 Europe immediately after the cessation of the war.

If a country were hell-bent on genocide, WHY WOULD IT KEEP RECORDS?? WHY would it build camps hundreds (if not thousands) of miles away with sanitary facilities, housing, medical, recreational and other ancillary facilities? Would it not have been easier to just eliminate them without going through all of this trouble? Why would they expend massive effort on logistical movement utilizing their limited energy resources if the goal was extermination? Things do not add up.

Something BIG stinks in this whole jewish holocaust deal. It is no secret that jewish Zionists made deals with the German government in order to make life uncomfortable for jewish Germans. In fact, it was jewish Zionist leaders who first proposed that all jews wear the yellow Star of David armband so that they could be easily identified. German jews considered themselves Germans first and had no desire to emigrate.

The camps were internally run by the residents themselves who were called “sonderkommandos”. They were primarily jewish Zionist criminals who were responsible for day-to-day operations within the camps, such as doling out job assignments, and even food rations. They ate well, while those who were not “connected” merely subsisted It is interesting to note, that in the jewish Warsaw “ghetto”, the jewish “leaders” lived quite well, while much of the ordinary population subsisted on meager rations. The jewish Zionist intelligentia made sure that they lived quite well, even in the Warsaw ghetto.

Punishment for infractions against the residents of the camps was swift and sure as abuse of residents was not permitted. Unlike the fabrications in “Schindler’s List” showing German camp commander Amon Goethe utilizing jews as “target practice” (never happened), abuse of inmates was swiftly dealt with, as healthy workers were needed for the war effort.
The establishment of a homeland along with the 6,000,000 figure was a Zionist dream since the 1800s. Many periodicals of the day starting with the early 1800s touted the “six-million” figure.

What better way to encourage emigration to a foreign land than to make things difficult for the cream of German society (jews)?? The TRUTH about the so-called jewish holocaust is out . . .

As cremation of ONE human body takes hours, the amount of time claimed by holocaust promoters is a physical, scientific and statistical impossibility. Their claims also do not account for the “downtime” that crematoria require for maintenance, etc. In addition, there are no mass burial sites that are commensurate with the claims of “six-million” or even “one-million”. There is also a jewish prohibition on excavation of claimed possible burial sites. WHY? Because THEY DO NOT EXIST. There is even a prohibition on the use of ground penetrating radar to search for burial sites. WHY?? If millions were gassed and cremated, the activities would have lasted well into the 1950s.

The so-called jewish holocaust has been turned into a de-facto religion (“holocaustianity”)in which no deviation from orthodoxy is permitted. In fact, in most European countries, independent investigation into jewish holocaust truths is strictly forbidden under pain of fines and imprisonment. In the USA, things are not quite as bad, only job loss and personal and professional destruction at the hands of those of the tribe that FEAR the real truth of the jewish holocaust being exposed is evident. A questionable and totally dishonest judicial “trick” used in holocaust trials is that of “judicial notice” in which TRUTH CANNOT BE USED AS A DEFENSE OR ENTERED INTO EVIDENCE IN THE KANGAROO COURTS THAT PROSECUTE THOSE WHO DARE TO INVESTIGATE THIS HISTORICAL EVENT. “Judicial notice”, once invoked against a defendant, disallows the introduction of evidence that does not conform to “commonly accepted beliefs” about the “holocaust”, EVEN IF THE EVIDENCE PROVES THAT THE “HOLOCAUST” CLAIMS ARE LIES AND FABRICATIONS. A question for you holocaust promoters-why are there laws that criminalize the search for truth?? What are you afraid of??

When the truth about this minor historical event comes out, it will change much of the world’s perception about those that are using this event as a cash cow that keeps on giving. . . there’s NO business like SHOAH business. To this day, Zionist complicity in this event is carefully covered up.

It is said that it takes approximately 100 years for historical truth to be finally accepted, free from the taint and biases of the “victors” (who are quite often successful in their attempts to downplay and dismiss historical facts. World War 2 will be seen as an attack on Germany, which was coming into its own on the world stage as a technological superpower, posing a threat to then British and American hegemony, as well as being a threat to the Rothschild banking cartel.

A good example of present-day censorship is the fate that awaits those that dare question official jewish holocaust orthodoxy. Most European countries have criminalized ANY line of thought that deviates from the official jewish holocaust story. WHY?? In fact, TRUTH is no defense when it comes to all things holocaust. Ask noted WW2 researcher David Irving, who was forced to recant TRUTH in order to avoid punishment.

The latest “victims” of “holocaustianity” are Ursula Haverbeck, Sylvia Stolz and Monika Schaefer, women who have been prosecuted and sentenced to maximum-security prisons in Germany for “incorrect thoughts”.

If people only knew of the planning that took place (among those of the chosen) to engineer the jewish holocaust, there would be a pogrom of massive size. You see, the jewish holocaust was necessary in order to force the establishment of a jewish state. In this case, the ENDS justified the MEANS. There have been many holocausts of much greater misery throughout human history, yet the jewish holocaust is the only one that counts . . . It is interesting to note that the term “holocaust ” to mean “mass extermination” was never used during or immediately after WW2, only coming to vogue in the 1960s, when it was noted that “guilt” could be assigned and reparations could be procured.

Look at the deification and commercialization of the so-called jewish holocaust while the much larger communist (true) holocaust is conveniently forgotten. To assure a continuing supply of jewish holocaust survivors, jews are tattooing their ATM (oops, I mean camp numbers) on their children and grandchildren. In addition, jewish psychologists have come up with a new concept, and disease-holocaust transference syndrome”. You see, only jewish children and grandchildren of jewish holocaust survivors are infected with this disease and should also be considered holocaust survivors, eligible for holocaust reparations. According to these jewish psychiatrists, even unrelated individuals can be “infected” with this “malady”.

Since the Zionist jews declared war on Germany in 1933 (yes, 1933), the Germans had no choice but to complete the Zionist plan of marginalizing German jews (to say the least).. This fulfilled the Zionist plan of forcing German jews to emigrate to Palestine while making the world grant jews a homeland-Israel. It is interesting to note that the German boycott of jewish businesses lasted for one day, while the jewish boycott (actually the jews’ declaration of war on Germany) started in 1933 and lasted until the summation of WW2.

Zionists have been predicting a jewish “homeland” for the last two-hundred years while predicting a holocaust of 6 million for the same amount of time. The ACTUAL number of non-combatant deaths in the European theater of operations is approximately 731,000, NOT 6 million (official International Red Cross figures). The International Red Cross had full access to all of the camps for the duration of the war, yet reported NOT ONE INSTANCE of extermination or mass murder.

Regarding that holocaust showplace, Auschwitz, there are engineering inconsistencies in the design of the so-called gas chambers. The doors are not of a gas-tight design; it would have been impossible to retrieve the bodies, and there is no means to ventilate the rooms after the so-called gassing took place. There is a gas chamber chimney that is not connected to anything. From an engineering standpoint, these are very serious errors that would have caused the deaths of the operators of these supposed gas chambers. As Germans were excellent engineers, it is difficult to observe the glaring engineering errors that presently exist in these camps.

American execution expert, Fred Leuchter travelled to Auschwitz, surreptitiously obtained samples from the purported gas chambers, had them tested and published his results. The absence of Prussian blue (ferricyanide) in ALL of the samples, save one, was PROOF that the gas chambers did not exist. The one positive sample was taken from a room used to disinfect clothing. In fact, the chimney for the supposed gas chamber does not connect to anything.

Mr. Leuchter was rewarded for his search for TRUTH by his professional and personal character assassination by those of the tribe. He lost all of his federal and state contracts, and was prosecuted under an obscure Massachusetts law for practicing engineering without a license-a law which had never been used vindictively before or since. . .After his report was published, he was harassed by Israeli “deep state” types (mossad) who he successfully “outed”.

It is no secret that after WW2, the Soviets attempted to create the death camps for propaganda purposes. Yes, there was extreme deprivation and suffering, many people perished. The prime cause of death was typhus. As allied bombings destroyed most of the infrastructure, typhus was at epidemic levels. THIS is what caused the massive amounts of human deaths . . .NOT gassing.

It is interesting to note that, before the camps were liberated by the allies, the camp occupants chose to flee with the German troops, rather than be “liberated” by the Russian allies.

It is said that “the light of day is the best disinfectant in the search for truth” Unfortunately this quote does not apply to “all things holocaust”. It appears that there are those “holocaust” promoters who are afraid of the TRUTH. Hence the prosecution and incarceration of those who dare question aspects of this historical event.

I urge all holocaust believers to check these things out for yourselves IF YOU DARE. You will not like what you find.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  anarchyst
February 9, 2019 11:43 pm

“There is NOT ONE DOCUMENT outlining any extermination plan for jews or others.” You are right, not one, but many, including:

https://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/resource/document/DocWanns.htm

“Official International Red Cross figures for all camp deaths total around 731,000-NOT 6,000,000. “

This is an outright lie. The Red Cross never published the figures. What they did do was report on what the German records said, which is a different matter entirely. Here, the Red Cross – the Red Cross itself – categorically states that that lie is indeed a lie and is pure propaganda:

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0031322X.1978.9969431?journalCode=rpop20

Your comments about the Red Cross having access to the camps are also lies. They were allowed a visit to a “show camp” in 1944, which was choreographed for them, and beyond that did not get access to camps until the final days of the war.

So, your entire argument from the first two paragraphs , the only ones I read, are easily established as outright lies. I know it suits your agenda, but lying about things so easily refuted seems moronic.

How is it you cannot do even the most cursory of investigations. The facts are easily available. You keep posting the same lies, when the truth easy to obtain.

anarchyst
anarchyst
  Llpoh
February 10, 2019 5:05 am

I see our resident IDF Unit 8200 hasbara Llpoh is up to his old tricks. Prove me wrong…problem is YOU CAN’T…lol

22winmag - Unreconstructedsouthernerbygraceofgod
22winmag - Unreconstructedsouthernerbygraceofgod
  anarchyst
February 10, 2019 12:03 am

Indeed the “6 million” figure had been batted around and ‘trial ballooned’ for many decades IN BOOKS AND PERIODICALS prior to World War One Part Two.

I don’t care to dig up and revisit sources I once researched and took as very credible, but to make a long story short- the census data of multiple governments and whatever major Jewish authority/organization clearly showed a significant INCREASE in European and eastern Jewish populations during the 1940’s, without even a hint of a decrease.

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Llpoh
Llpoh

22 – folks tend to seize any numbers that suit their narative, as you have done.

The numbers you are referring to most likely came from those published in the World Almanac of 1948, which showed no reduction in number of Jews world-wide. Well, what happened was that the Almanac was not updated until 1949, when it showed the many millions of Jews that died. You and your ilk of course ignore the 1949 numbers, but steadfastly hold onto the 1948 numbers. Amazing that.

This is the same as the fallacy of the Red Cross numbers that are tossed around, which I highlighted before. The Red Cross published no such numbers, but did once collate German records and publish the numbers that the German records reported. Holocaust deniers then grabbed those and said, aha!, the Red Cross says it never happened. The Red Cross has formally rejected that, as they never said any such thing, and have never reported the numbers.

22winmag - Unreconstructedsouthernerbygraceofgod
22winmag - Unreconstructedsouthernerbygraceofgod
  Llpoh
February 10, 2019 7:20 am

Funny thing is, the CIA was founded in 1947 and the State of Israel in 1948.

MOTHERFUCK 1949.

llpoh
llpoh

Let me get this straight.
First, 22 talks about something he might have read where maybe there was data somewhere showing Jews were not killed by the millions.
Then, I kick him in the nuts with facts that can be easily verifiable.
Then, surprise surprise, he comes back screeching that those easily verifiable facts are in fact a CIA plot and that somehow Israel, in the midst of fighting for its survival in 1948 had the time and inclination to subvert the World Almanac.

You cannot make this shit up. Facts make no difference to a moron who has decided to invent facts or accept invented facts that support his agenda and narrative. Just like anarchyst tossing out page after page of unattributed, and easily debunked, lies, these assholes have zero inclination to look at actual facts, and instead are only interested in spreading propaganda and outright lies that any small bit of research can debunk.

Where have the monkeys gone that believe that facts rule over narrative?

Rdawg
Rdawg
  llpoh
February 10, 2019 6:53 pm

pi=4

starfcker
starfcker
  llpoh
February 10, 2019 8:23 pm

Right here, Boss. Just shaking my head, and sitting this one out

Llpoh
Llpoh
  anarchyst
February 10, 2019 8:18 pm

I just love beating anarchyst with the truth. Above, he says “Since the Zionist jews declared war on Germany in 1933”. Once again, this is a lie. Jews worldwide organized a boycott of German product owing to Hitler’s persecution of Jews in Germany, in 1933.

The Daily Express in London printed the headline “Judea Declares War on Germany” when reporting on the boycott. There was no declaration of war, at all, but dickheads like anarchyst persist on using that one headline as a basis for the claim that the Jews declared war on Germany. It is like using a National Enquirer headline as factual historical reference.

So far, there is not a single factual claim that anarchyst has made. Amazing that.

anarchyst
anarchyst
  Llpoh
February 10, 2019 8:23 pm

When you jews get governments to lock up grandmothers for daring to question the holohoax, you are losing the battle. The TRUTH will prevail…holocaustianity is dying…the sooner the better.
If you are indeed a “seeker of truth”, refute my statements–directly, point-by-point…problem is, you can’t. You are using the old jewish canard of misdirection. Go back to your unit 8200 IDF sh!thole…and stew some more while the rest of your holohoax goes up in flames…ha ha ha

Llpoh
Llpoh
  anarchyst
February 10, 2019 9:28 pm

Anarchyst – I have been posting facts that are easily verifiable that are destroying your narrative. How many more do you want me to post. Everything you say is a lie. Those lies can be easily established by anyone wanting to do even a modicum of research.

Jews declared war on Germany? No documents exist? Red Cross claims the millions did not die? I posted the facts that establish all those are lies. You on the other hand make statements that are never substantiated. Because it is impossible to substantiate those lies. And if you try, it will be via a debunked and discredited source. Me, I point you to the actual source documents that prove the truth.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  anarchyst
February 10, 2019 9:33 pm

Anarchist..
They conveniently forget that Admin had “Demonitization up for 4 days. Fred Reed of all people questioned a Jewish Myth. When Admin posted an ant Semites article “when truth is true Loophole didn’t trash his character.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Fleabaggs
February 10, 2019 9:55 pm

Flea – Admin does not involve himself in the anti-Jew narrative you guys spin. Never has. You are making shit up. Again.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Llpoh
February 10, 2019 10:23 pm

Llpoh..
I didn’t post the article, he did. What is there to make up?

Llpoh
Llpoh
  anarchyst
February 10, 2019 9:58 pm

Here is the Anarchyst way of peesenting an argument.

1) Jews suck. They did such and such. Provides zero evidence of the claim.
2) Jews conspired to do such and such. Provides zero evidence of the claim.
3) when faced with absolute evidence that Jews did not do such and such, responds with:
4) oh yeah, well you cannot prove my idiotic conspiracy theories are not true, al the while ignoring all the proof provided that the idiotic conspiracy theories are in fact not true.

You cannot make this shit up.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Llpoh
February 10, 2019 11:10 pm

llpoh,
the man is correct about putting people in prison for holocaust denial,it’s complete bs–

i have a question for you about the #s killed–until a few years ago,the # killed in the camps was always 13 million,6m jews & 7m others–i read somewhere that the 7m was substantially lowered but the 6m was left intact–have you heard that & if so how could they have reliable info to change one group’s death totals but not the other groups ?

Llpoh
Llpoh
  TampaRed
February 11, 2019 1:14 am

The 6 million is thought to be more accurately 5.4 to 5.7 million by memory. Scholars do not believe generally the number was 6 million. There were around 3 million Soviet POWs killed in German camps, (and likewise Germans fared very poorly in Russian hands, and around 2 million Poles killed, estimates vary around that range. Then there were assorted Roma, Freemasons, Catholics, mentally retarded and ill, etc. So I suppose a around 7 million of non-Jews is a reasonable estimate. I believe that generally the Jewish figures are more or less unchanged since I studied this stuff in depth in the 1970s. I suspect the scholarship was more concentrated on the Jews as opposed to the other groups. Russian scholars probably would have good estimates on their losses, and maybe the same for Polish scholars. The Poles were very agrarian, as were the Russians, which would not have helped the scholarship efforts.

anarchyst
anarchyst
  Llpoh
February 11, 2019 10:33 am

Talk about a scam of epic proportions, here is the latest scam thought up by the “holohoax” crowd…
Follow the shekels…the jewish “holohoax” crowd fears that their “cash cow” is coming to and end that they have come up with another discredited concept to “keep the dream alive” and to “keep the shekels flowing”.
“Holocaust transference syndrome” is their latest scam-a crackpot idea thought up by two jewish psychologists.
These jewish psychologists claim that holocaust “memories” are transferred from “holocaust survivors” to children, grandchildren, great grandchildren, other relatives, and even unrelated jewish individuals (but only jewish individuals-not “goyim”)…and that they should be eligible to receive “holocaust” reparations.
You see, the idea is to have an unlimited, continuing stream of jewish “holocaust survivors” to “keep the dream alive” (and the shekels flowing).
It is interesting to note that the jewish organizations that handle “holohoax” reparations claims are themselve part of an international jewish criminal cabal that is raking in billions of shekels above and beyond what they are paying out in “claims”.
The jewish holohoax is on its last breath…rightly so. It is time to put this “hoax of the twentieth century” to death…along with closing the publicly-funded “holocaustianity” museums.

MadJack
MadJack
  anarchyst
February 12, 2019 11:16 pm

Holocaustianity is dying. Hear, hear!

MadJack
MadJack
  Llpoh
February 12, 2019 11:25 pm

The worst was not the gas chambers but the pedal powered skull crushers and the homicidal masturbation machines. The horror!

anarchyst
anarchyst
  MadJack
February 13, 2019 8:17 am

jewish lampshades, jewish soap, and jewish shrunken heads, oh my! lol

RiNS
RiNS
  anarchyst
February 10, 2019 10:24 pm

They kept records because they thought they would win the war.

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
February 10, 2019 1:12 am

Mary Christine,

Thank you for taking the time to put your thoughts and research together. I learned a lot about China and Israel I had not known. I particularly enjoyed your use of Catherine Austin-Fitts expertise!

She knows her shit!

Again, thank you for sharing and taking the time to put this together.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Platoplubius
February 10, 2019 10:15 pm

Catherine and FASB56 got lost in all the other stuff. But I think it ties in, even if that is not what she intended and I did not mean to imply that she did. I was reading between the lines, so to speak.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
February 10, 2019 2:28 am

I don’t have anything to add except my opinion. I will rely more on LLPOH’s guidance (I will call that the brown pill) and less on inflammatory videos. While I believe things are not what they seem on the surface and I can anticipate the government’s war on the populace, this may be more due to some real morons in DC trying or not trying to solve an impending economic avalanche than a concerted effort by individuals in high places around the world. To buy into that conspiracy theory is to buy into the idea that DC bombed NYC and managed to keep a lid on the thousands of witnesses and participants.

Simon Weaselstein
Simon Weaselstein
February 10, 2019 4:39 am

Yep. It was them, all along…

Spoiler alert: tgsnt.tv

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
February 10, 2019 8:47 am

A very interesting read, Mary Christine.

Just a thought
Just a thought
February 10, 2019 9:16 am

Why are they so afraid of Trump and Putin getting along ?

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Just a thought
February 10, 2019 1:36 pm

Just..
Because peace is the NWO’s greatest fear.

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
  Fleabaggs
February 10, 2019 1:52 pm

Peace is also in the cards! A faux peace so that anyone who objects or isn’t on board will be demonized as the enemy.

The Denver Airport Conspiracy aka NWO airport and the artwork that used to Grace its hallways depicts this use of Peace as a weapon
comment image

BL
BL
  Platoplubius
February 10, 2019 2:28 pm

Plato- all those dead babies/children along with the sword up the ass of the dove /peace DID NOT give me the warm fuzzies. That mural was painted by a masonic connected Mayan and yes, there is a occult connection of the Mayans

Rdawg
Rdawg
  Platoplubius
February 10, 2019 6:57 pm

I saw that artwork before having visited the Denver airport and found it to be very creepy.

I have since flown through Denver a half dozen times in the last year. There is another panel subsequent to the one shown above which shows the jack-booted murderous thug having been defeated, and the innocents prevailing.

Interesting that this panel is never shown…

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
  Rdawg
February 10, 2019 7:53 pm

R dawg,

Here ya go..comment image

Look it, everyone is singing koombaya and holding hands now that the fascist looking boogeyman has been defeated, even the word “Peace” above the lil childrens

BL
BL
  Platoplubius
February 10, 2019 9:40 pm

I have seen that mural many times Dawg.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
February 10, 2019 9:50 am

Wow ! Look at the squabbling on here today. If American simply traded with countries and didn’t enter into alliances with them we wouldn’t have most of the troubles we have today. Now, if you want to watch cat fights here are some that are more entertaining, and at least the cats are fighting for their territory or the right to have sex.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_bQwBWqKjo

Miles Long
Miles Long
  Coalclinker
February 10, 2019 2:06 pm

Clinker…

https://phys.org/news/2011-11-poop-throwing-chimps-intelligence.html

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Coalclinker
February 10, 2019 9:48 pm

“If American simply traded with countries and didn’t enter into alliances with them we wouldn’t have most of the troubles we have today. ”

Bingo. Too late now.

You should have seen my dog when I played this video.

RE
RE
February 10, 2019 10:19 am

Thanks once again to the TBPers who responded to the 2019 Collapse Survey! We have currently 648 Respondents, 99 of which come from TBP. The Survey is still OPEN, so you can still get your opinion counted.

We have begun the parsing of the data and analysis, and one of the first things I pulled out was the free answer question on what the Kollapsniks themselves think about collapse. On a qualitative level, it’s quite interesting.

http://www.doomsteaddiner.net/blog/2019/02/10/collapse-2019-survey-in-the-words-of-the-kollapsniks/

RE

DD NM
DD NM
  RE
February 10, 2019 1:59 pm

Interesting.

Drud
Drud
February 10, 2019 10:22 am

Just a few questions to throw out there:
8
People mention”winning.” What exactly does a “win” look like? This is ALWAYS a vital question that never seems to get asked. Do you suppose that we can get rid of tyrant and corruption for good?

Who are “the Jews” that are perpetuating these things? Every Jewish person by heredity or faith acting in perfect concert? The Israeli government? Also acting in perfect concert, miraculously unlike every other government that has existed anywhere ever?
Or is it, perhaps, a loose collection of truly evil induvuduals possessed of insane power that are putting the strings with, of course, the blessings of many weak and greedy individuals that make up many of our institutions including govt? And if this last, what does the ethnicity of these truly evil, powerful individuals make?

I’ll paraphrase Frankl again: there are only two races, the decent and the indecent. They can be found in every ground, every family, every ethnicity.

We do have massive structural problems in our society, government and institutions, with banks/financial institutions leading the way in both power and degree of corruption. I’ll even give you that there is a high percentage of bankers that are Jews? And? It is there character that is too be impugned and there indecency to be ameliorated regardless of their race.

There is some amount of wisdom in “knowing who the enemy is” but there is also the great danger of beginning to see enemies everywhere. Then one is fully justified in committing any atrocity against these ubiquitous “enemies.” A very shallow perusal of 20 th century history should make that very clear… especially if you read it as a perpetrator and not as a victim.

Malevolence, corruption, abuse of power, etc.. these things are as old as history itself. We will never be rid of them. Better to spend one’s effort working on yourself than to fight these grand wars. May as well try to fight the tide or the wind.

To my way of thinking there are better ways to spend our limited time…regardless of the circumstances that are beyond our control.

BL
BL
  Drud
February 10, 2019 4:08 pm

Lordy Mercy DUD, to answer your question of who…. it is the Zionist joos. If you fail to notice we are redlining the tach, speeding toward the end and headed over the cliff then maybe you are the lucky one. True that there have been tyrants since time began, does that mean we just sit around with our finger up our nose and wait?

BL
BL
February 10, 2019 10:29 am

MC- Gutsy article and well done. Have any idea how many units in Trump’s Sunny Isle/Miami property were bought by Chabad members in the last few years? My dead cat who died of old age could connect the Russians and DT a thousand ways come Sunday, yet you say we all know that is a dead horse. Take a further look at some of the Chabad’s activities, hardly the pillars of the community.

Everything must be divided to equal 18 MC, the member payment is $1800 collected by the rabbi, why 18? 6+6+6
Why do Chabad members buy into DT properties? To get their laundry cleaned. You have a way to go MC, but you are doing a fine job.

What would happen if a mafia hid behind a religion? And what if it were against the law to criticize that religion’s members? http://www.chabad-mafia.com

Anonymous
Anonymous
February 10, 2019 10:30 am

Yes, The Chinese and Jews are all-in on the NWO(5G, Crypto, surveillance, AI controlled by satan/antichrist, transhumanism), the Chinese are building a port in Israel which tells us alot(who’s spying on who?) The Jews are doubly cursed by God and their culture is parasitic and sickens and destroys all cultures they are allowed to sway/stay in. Since they are doubly cursed by God the evangelicals who feel they must bless them are deceived. But we must remember they are God’s chosen tribe so God will uphold His covenant with a remnant who must turn to Jesus Christ and then will be doubly blessed but only during the tribulation after most of them and us are dead. History shows all Kingdoms rise and fall, it will soon be time for Israel to rule the world as prophecy has foretold. Why else will all the nations gather to battle in the Holy Land.

RickHapp
RickHapp
February 10, 2019 11:37 am

As a Jew and I want to complain that somehow, somebody forgot to send me the world domination plan. What I really want to know is when do I get my cut???

BL
BL
  RickHapp
February 10, 2019 11:45 am

Happ- You iz just a regulah joo. You have to be in the club and we/you aren’t in it. But thanks for playing the game of life.

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
  RickHapp
February 10, 2019 12:11 pm

I’m sure this is what the typical low level freemason would say as well.

It’s just an all-boys club who does good works….sure…i think of the old cliche, keep your friends close but your enemies closer…crazy thing is the lower initiates naivety is always used against them.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Platoplubius
February 10, 2019 9:52 pm

My cousin was in the Masons for a while. That is pretty much what he said. Sorta..if I paraphrased it.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  RickHapp
February 10, 2019 1:50 pm

Happ..
If you go to Synagogue you are getting your cut.
My many Jewish relatives are pretty Secular but they go to Synagogue and are very conscious of being Jewish. Synagogue is what holds worldwide Jewruselem together. You make friends and contacts, find careers and spouses etc. They will not do anything that harms International Jewry so they are complicit even if brainwashed. You can’t rape the willing.

Ottomatik
Ottomatik
February 10, 2019 12:32 pm

Mary- I feel the FASB56 and the JQ should have been separate articles, because…well look at the responces. Zero discussion of 56, which is perhaps unfortunate, as we need more transparency and less centralization, in both finance and government. Further, on the JQ you could have isolated Chabbad and done a deep dive there. I failed to find any nefarious actions or plans in your research and quotes to support the potentially negative light you cast.

LLOPH- I felt your points to be cogent and well supported, good work.

Yo- Perhaps it is time you move to the solution phase of your constant JC diatribe. Otherwise it is starting to seem like a sales pitch without a product.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Ottomatik
February 10, 2019 9:55 pm

“I feel the FASB56 and the JQ should have been separate articles”

That happens with every essay. I tried to bring it back to CAF’s video and quotes but alas… You are probably right. Why don’t you write a separate one, Otto?

Ottomatik
Ottomatik
  Mary Christine
February 11, 2019 10:04 am

Lack of skills and inclination. Thanks for the response and the nudge.

R Daneel
R Daneel
February 10, 2019 1:00 pm

They, along with any other Jewish follower of Jesus would be persecuted in Israel.

That is a lie of the worst sort. If TBP is going full anti-semite I am gone.

BL
BL
  R Daneel
February 10, 2019 1:05 pm

Daneel- Don’t just leave, bring your proof that it is a lie. Your ire is lost on us if you don’t back it up.

R Daneel
R Daneel
  BL
February 10, 2019 4:38 pm

I am a Christian and have lived in Israel twice. My proof is my experience. Knowing the Armenians, Muslims, Jews and Christians that live in the Old City, side by side, in peace with the exception of radical Muslims who make LOTS of trouble.

Going to Nazareth (a Muslim/Arab town) and encountering no issues to visit the Christian church.

Seeing the attacks from Gaza on Sderot personally. On people who have no problems with the Arabs.

I bet you doubters know nothing of the true history of “Palestine” nor who the “Palestinians” really are.

But I bet I waste my breath like on Fleabaggs below. Cowed? And you know nothing of me at all.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  R Daneel
February 10, 2019 7:45 pm

mr daneel,
i have not researched the issue so i will not dispute you but i do remember an american christian who was a stewardess who was arrested & was facing serious prison time for proselytizing jews.
this would have been at least 20 years ago,possibly as early as the late 70 s.
stick around & comment more often.

DD NM
DD NM
  R Daneel
February 11, 2019 7:55 pm

Please stick around… I’m getting my Christian Zionist friends to read this (as much as they will) and comment. So far, I’ve learned MC may be something called a Replacement Theologist. And, something said about Chabad rubbed the wrong way.

So, I do believe we need more eyes, ears and voices like yours to help us understand the language and terms.

MadJack
MadJack
  R Daneel
February 12, 2019 11:00 pm

Yeah, we’ll ignore centuries of history in favor of your subjective, anecdotal experiences. Boomer?

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  R Daneel
February 10, 2019 1:11 pm

R D
That you even use that term shows you’ve been played. You’re well cowed.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  R Daneel
February 10, 2019 9:57 pm

Jana and Steven DeNoon are Messianic Jews who spend much of their time in Israel. They are who I took that information from. Your argument is with them and others who have similar testimony. Please tell me how they are lying..oh but I guess you will not since you are gone.

Jack
Jack
February 10, 2019 1:54 pm

The telos of Judaism is that all the nations (the Goyim) will worship their tribal deity Yahweh/Jehovah as the one true God. Christians worship the god of the Old Testament as do Muslems. One of the OT names for God is El which means god. HaEl means the god. HaEl in Arabic is Allah.
There is no way to effectively deal with the JQ until we deal with the Christian question. Christianity is a Jewish creation. We will never be free as long as we worship a Jew god (and his fictitious son.)
I recommend Richard Carrier’s On The Historicity of Jesus: Why We Might Have Reason to Doubt
– Christ in Egypt: The Horus-Jesus Connection, by Acharya S. (penname for D.M. Murdock)
among many, many others. Jesus is Jew-created Fiction, like Superman.

BL
BL
  Jack
February 10, 2019 2:19 pm

Jack – The Catholic Church was originally formed by two joos, that boosted Christianity into the high gear cash cow for the hydra. Ya just cant go to heaven without giving your 10% tribute. Guess who came up with that BS?

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
  BL
February 10, 2019 2:39 pm

BL et al,

I like this PBS episode (52 minutes) entitled The Medici: Godfathers of the Renaissance , that provides some interesting background info to what you refer.

https://youtu.be/9FFDJK8jmms?list=PL21A9B25366B67ADB

BL
BL
  Platoplubius
February 10, 2019 2:55 pm

Plato-I have written in the past about the selection of pope which in that day was the pirate class criminal who offered the biggest tribute to buy the position. Basically as if the mafia Dons all competed to buy the US POTUS…..oh wait…..

Charles
Charles
  Jack
February 10, 2019 6:58 pm

‘There is no way to effectively deal with the JQ until we deal with the Christian question. Christianity is a Jewish creation. We will never be free as long as we worship a Jew god (and his fictitious son.’

That is what the anti-semites on this blog want. They are of the devil! That’s why they hate!

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Jack
February 10, 2019 10:00 pm

Sooo, you are an atheist? Or if not, who do you worship..oh we all worship someone or something, it’s how we are made.

MadJack
MadJack
  Mary Christine
February 10, 2019 11:54 pm

No, not an atheist. But Yahweh/Jehovah is not God. He/It is merely the tribal deity of the Hebrews. Why accept another’s god as your own? And why Yahweh? What about Quezalcoatl? Or Shiva?
The most pernicious part of accepting Christianity is not the suicidal masochism of the Sermon on the Mount or the Beatitudes but accepting Yahweh as the One True God. Christians and Moslems alike worship the god of the Jews, whom we are told are our elder brothers (recently upgraded to fathers) in the faith.

DD NM
DD NM
February 10, 2019 2:12 pm

Whoah… talk about a runaway train. Good job, MC. In spite of a few stumbles it appears your little idea that could, would and should is gathering steam. I hope some other input will make it take on runaway train status.

We need to identify the Enemy because, if we do not know who our Enemy is, we lose. Sitting still and waiting is not an option.

Even if you are on the right track you will get run over if you are just sitting there. Leslie Rust.

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
  DD NM
February 10, 2019 2:54 pm

DD NM said,

We need to identify the Enemy because, if we do not know who our Enemy is, we lose.

At some basic fundamental level the ENEMY can be seen by looking down comment image

October Sky
October Sky
  Platoplubius
February 10, 2019 3:43 pm

Yes. Capital E for Enemy. A Bold capital E for Enemy is the Synarchy.

October Sky
October Sky
  October Sky
February 10, 2019 3:51 pm

“Synarchy…is ‘government by secret societies’, or by a group of initiates who operate from behind the scenes. It is an analogue of ‘theocracy’, or rule by a priesthood.”

~ Marquis Alexandre Saint-Yves d’Alveydre

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
  October Sky
February 10, 2019 7:24 pm

October Sky,

Wow! I’ve never heard of that term before, “Synarchy” , a hidden oligarchy, interesting.

Thank you for the quote .

BL
BL
  Platoplubius
February 10, 2019 3:47 pm

Plato- And proud of all of them we are! When I grow up I want TO BE the DUDE…..

mark
mark
  DD NM
February 10, 2019 4:50 pm

Mary,

I defiantly picked up information on the Chinese that was eye opening. Also on the Lubavitch…and many, many other details.

One of the links had this comment:

“You guys Zionism IS Judaism IS Communism…..”

I have wondered if that should be

“You guys Luciferianism IS Zionism IS Ashkenazi, Edomites, Sephardi, Yiddish (Israelite true Jews impostors) IS Communism…..”

I have harbored that thought for a while…I have posted about it before but besides a few down votes no one has come back with an opinion.

As best as I can figure there are 5 classifications of Jews, but only the Israelites are true Jews from the bloodline of Jesus.

1. Israelite
2. Ashkenazi
3. Edomites
4. Sephardi
5. Yiddish

Some sources:
1. Who are the Ashkenazi Jews? http://lasttrumpet.org/ashkenazi.htm

• From the link: “Why this question? Because:
– 90% of the worlds Jewry is of European Ashkenazi Jews
– 95% of North American Jewry consists of, came from European Ashkenazi Jews
– So all the Ashkenazi Jews are not even of the Semitic blood line, of Shem, but of Japheth.
– Gen 9:27 May God enlarge Japheth, and may he dwell in the tents of Shem; And may Canaan be his
servant.” Gen 10:1 Now this is the genealogy of the sons of Noah: Shem, Ham, and Japheth. And
sons were born to them after the flood. Gen 10:2 The sons of Japheth were Gomer, Magog, Madai,
Javan, Tubal, Meshech, and Tiras.
– Is there is an agenda at play of some kind? Who’s behind that agenda?
– Also all the top Zionists over the many years claim to be of the Ashkenazi Jewry too.
• So again it begs the question, who truly are the Ashkenazi Jews? And what is their real pursuits and agenda? Sense they are not descendants of Abraham. Also I like to share “follow the money” to see whom the string pullers really are over Israel. The Rothschild family of central banking fame claim too, to be of Ashkenazi descent.”

2. WHO ARE THE EDOMITES?
https://www.gotquestions.org/Edomites.html

3. WHAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ISRAELI, YIDDISH, SEPHARDI AND ASHKENAZI JEWS?
https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-difference-between-Israeli-Yiddish-Sephardi-and-Ashkenazi-Jews

4. JESUS WAS AN ISRAELITE: WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ISRAELITE & A JEW?
https://rense.com/general96/JesusIsraelite.html

I found these links interesting and I believe I have seen some if not all of them on TBP in different posts that also weighs in on the ‘Jewish’ Question.

HOW BABYLONIAN KHAZARIAN FAKE JEWS INFILTRATED EVERY KINGDOM
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-babylonian-khazarian-fake-jews-infiltrated-every-kingdom-lamotta/

THE JEWISH ROLE IN THE BOLSHEVIK REVOLUTION AND RUSSIA’S EARLY SOVIET UNION – ASSESSING THE GRIM LEGACY OF SOVIET COMMUNISM

http://www.unz.com/pub/jhr__the-jewish-role-in-the-bolshevik-revolution-and-russias-early-soviet-regime/

HOW THE ASHKENAZI JEWS CONQUERED THE WEST AND BECAME THE HIDDEN HAND

How The Ashkenazi Jews Conquered The West

I agree with DD NM,

“We need to identify the Enemy because, if we do not know who our Enemy is, we lose. Sitting still and waiting is not an option.”

DD NM
DD NM
  mark
February 10, 2019 6:02 pm

Actually, I copied that from MC’s original piece, bolded it and did not bother with quote marks. I’ve been known to steal a few words, but I usually wordsmith them before I reuse them.

mark
mark
  DD NM
February 10, 2019 7:23 pm

Thanks, I read the piece yesterday and went through the links this afternoon, then wrote my comment, I missed that.

I defiantly will keep Mary’s research with all the links I posted above in my ‘The Jewish Question’ file.

This is a robust debate I have picked much up from…much to contemplate.

I’m not worried about the average Jew…but the average Luciferian and all the Banksters (no matter their linage) plus their host of minions…the way it looks…probably gonna have to fight them sooner rather than later.

mark
mark
  mark
February 11, 2019 9:44 pm

I’ll add one last comment in line with the one point I made about:

1. Israelite (Judahite)
2. Ashkenazi
3. Edomites
4. Sephardi
5. Yiddish

I brought this up above in this ‘thought provoking donnybrook’ surrounding who I consider Satan’s spawn (now there is a no nonsense label) the INTERNATIONAL INTERCONNECTED LUCIFERIANS.

They are the true ENEMY.

But they also are shape shifters and have so many other labels:

Jewish and non-Jewish Banksters (Jewish being to me a controversial word I am still investigating) Secret Societies, the Deep State, Commies, and all their minions and ilk and masses of useful idiot sheeple and too many spoiled, soft American lemmings.

I have been trying to separate the wheat from the chaff when it comes to the Jews/Israel since 1948 and its prophetic one day fulfillment as well as all the prophetic events I feel we are hurtling towards during this Beginning of Sorrows and about to be popped open seals…that also seems to be in line with past 4th Turning crescendos.

I don’t pretend to have a lock on it, but this article below intrigued me for obvious reasons stated above.

JESUS WAS NOT A JEW

Jesus Was Not A Jew

Paragraph Headings:
WHO IS A JEW?

WHAT IS THE WORD IN THE NON-TRANSLATED BIBLE?

OLD TESTAMENT PROSELYTIZERS

JESUS AND THE HOUSE OF JUDAH

CONCLUSION: The word “Jew” as we understand it today is NOT in the bible. It has been completely hollowed out of its “Judean” or “Judahite” meaning, because the proselytized Rabbinists who hijacked it are not of the tribe of Judah. See How the Ashkenazi Jews Conquered the West. All it does is create confusion in the Christian mind, which is exactly what the demonic forces want in order to unseat Christians as the new Chosen People – chosen to love and to do good – and to calumniate Christ as a Pharisee.

“God is not the author of confusion…” 1 Corinthians 14:33

No matter what these principalities of hell do, Jesus remains who He is and who He always was, a true Judahite, the awaited King and Messiah, the Salvation that was to come from Judah.

However, we Christians must do our part: remove the word “Jew” from the translated bible and replace it with Judahite, so the whole world may know that Jesus was NOT a Jew.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  mark
February 11, 2019 10:43 pm

Mark..
Good points. However, some Lucifarians are more equal than others. Following the money always leads back to the Zionist Bankers and Israel.
The a average Jew who is pretty Secular but goes to Synagogue is still complicit in crimes of the Israeli Zionist Jews. Synagogue is what holds worldwide Jewry together. It’s where they make contacts, get spouses and careers etc. They
defer to what Israel says is best.
I used to make a distinction between Jews And Zionist Jews and non Jew Zionists until The Unz Review ran an article by a Jew “it time to break the Jew Taboo”. I realized I had been cowed into never saying the J word without apologizing.
Hence my It’s the Jews thing.

mark
mark
  Fleabaggs
February 11, 2019 11:56 pm

Flea,

I agree the tip of the pyramid, where that big burning eye is searching for the hobbit with the ring, seems to have a seemingly Ashkenazi Bankster’s eye lid blinking.

For me it’s only been a short time since I started researching the 5 different labels of ‘Jew’ in depth and once I got into it I became fascinated.

I have brought it up before in other posts but it was either ignored or just managed a couple of down votes and no follow up. I thought this brawl was the perfect thread to run it up the flag pole and see if anyone salutes it or shoots at it.

Haven’t read everything on the Biblicism Institute website, its massive but I will eventually.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  mark
February 12, 2019 1:28 am

Mark..
Well it sure helped me when you posted it. I wouldn’t have even known where to start looking for that info. It just never added up. You say you are Jews but you are not etc.
BTW, did you see the thing with me and Tampa about the DNA test by John’s Hopkins? Turns out Israeli Jews have less Jewish DNA than Palistinians.
Also on here someone made a good argument that Christ was the 3rd temple. I’m going to have to follow that one up. Makes sense now.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  DD NM
February 10, 2019 10:01 pm

Enemy. ENEMY.

mark
mark
  Mary Christine
February 10, 2019 11:50 pm

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Pure White
Pure White
February 10, 2019 3:32 pm

Capitalism is a Jewish conspiracy. If only the Fuhrer had succeeded:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-09/progressive-attacks-capitalism-were-key-hitlers-success

KeyserSusie
KeyserSusie
February 10, 2019 4:50 pm

I will hang a tzitzit on your masterful piece Mary. I should read this everyday for a week and maybe I would become conversant in suspicions that abound. Thank you for your effort. And all the opinions and references rebounding off our crew.

In my bathroom hangs three signed serigraphs, one large that lists the Noahide Laws written two ways. One way, each one printed in a rainbow color, standard roy g biv, with the laws written in Hebrew in each arched hue. And also printed in English, over the (top of the) rainbow.
Prohibiting Idolatry-Bloodshed-Incest-Theft-Cruelty To Animals-Blasphemy.

This all over REQUIRING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A LEGAL SYSTEM as title.

The two smaller prints depict a Hebrew letter.

Tzadik is one, that somehow morphs into “Man of Honor,
Thought, Ninety and Fish-hook” printed around the letter.

The other depicts the modern Hebrew letter Zayin. Around the image sides are printed “Woman of Honor, Ownership, Seven and Sword”.

Evidently the orientation of letter changes context. And meanings have morphed over the centuries and cultures. Early, Middle and Late Semitic scripts and now modern Hebrew usage.

Kabbalah krap for polyglottal autists and aspies’ spectrum disorders to twist words and truth for narcissistic semi species domination and subjewgation of the goyim, Kaffirs and Arabs, or is that being redundant?

All I know is if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is mostly likely a duck.

And like unkola, I am with those from Missouri.

Show me the Moahide Laws More without the hiding.

I been on this all day. And likely will still be going down trails of it tomorrow.

DD NM
DD NM
  KeyserSusie
February 10, 2019 6:04 pm

Some really klever krap in there whosie Susie. Really clever.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  DD NM
February 10, 2019 10:07 pm

I bow to you two wordsmiths. I will never live up to that level of word craftery..never. I’m jealous.

DD NM
DD NM
  Mary Christine
February 11, 2019 8:02 pm

Oh, dear Mary Christine, you have launched a discussion that has been waiting to happen. It hasn’t quite gotten there, but it is gathering steam.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
February 10, 2019 7:43 pm

MC writes… “For the love of all that is holy, why do Christians want to help build a temple that the Bible says the Anti-Christ will desecrate?”

We don’t. Perhaps it’s time to redefine what it means to be Christian?

“…we are witnessing the most amazing deception I have ever seen or read about…”

2 Corinthians 11:14 KJB… “And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.”

“In fact, they seem to be doing plenty of good works.”

2 Corinthians 11:15 KJB… “Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.”

anarchyst
anarchyst
  grace country pastor
February 11, 2019 10:01 am

Tying Judaism to Christianity was a clever trick used by the jews to “cement” their claim to the “land of Israel” and of the covenant, to which I reply, “God is not a real estate agent”.
Jews rejected the covenant when they murdered Jesus Christ. Their covenant with God was then “null and void”.
It is the flawed Schofield translation of the Bible that elevated jews to the status of Christianity’s “elder brothers”, which was then reinforced by the Catholic (flawed) “Vatican II Ecumenical Council” in the 1960s.
I cringe when I hear well-meaning people talk about out judeo-Christian heritage.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
The only common thread between Christianity and judaism is the Ten Commandments, nothing more.
The god of judaism is a vengeful god, totally unlike the merciful and welcoming God of Christianity.
Christianity welcomes ALL, regardless of nationality or social status, not true of judaism.
Judaism is an insular belief system that shuns outsiders, prohibits proselytization, and promotes a form of supremacy, relegating all gentiles (non-jews) to the status of livestock-subhumans with souls, only to be used for the advancement and benefit of jews.
Jews DID murder Jesus Christ. Sad to say, even the present-day (post-Vatican II ecumenical council) Catholic church has bought into absolving the jews for Jesus Christ’s murder. As always is the case, the jews got others, the Romans to do their dirty work for them, the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. How can Christians have the same values as the Jews; the very people who denounced and betrayed the founder of Christianity, Jesus Christ, and call for his execution (by others, of course, that is the Jewish way). It makes absolutely no sense at all. Jews have no respect for Christianity, for Jesus Christ or Mary, his mother, who are both honored as Prophets in Islam, but instead, Jews spit on hearing their names and do the same while passing a Christian of any kind or a Christian Church in Israel. They have no respect for Christians or any other religion.
It is time the Jewish lobbies and the American Government leaders as well as the evangelical Christian leaders who mislead the poor American young into joining the military and believing that they are doing something for God and Christianity by fighting Israel’s wars were named, shamed and arrested and tried for treason.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  anarchyst
February 11, 2019 10:41 am

Anarchist..
Thank you. That’s all I was doing. Naming and shaming.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  anarchyst
February 11, 2019 1:09 pm

I am in agreement with many of the sentiments you share here. Judaism is not Christianity. To be clear, I am NOT a Zionist. I’ve read the “protocols”…

You are however wrong in regards to land deals.

Genesis 35:12 KJB… “And the land which I gave Abraham and Isaac, to thee I will give it, and to thy seed after thee will I give the land.”

C.I. Schofield had some compelling thoughts on scripture; he also made some rather large mistakes. We learn from both.

The Jews rejected God the Father, they rejected God the Son and they rejected (blasphemed) God the Holy Spirit when they stoned Stephen in Acts 7. Christ Himself told them that would be the last straw.

Luke 12:10 KJB… “And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.”

Thy Kingdom come on earth (the land) was no longer “at hand” from that moment on.

God then calls Paul and reveals the mystery kept secret since the world began; the opposite of prophecy which was spoken since the world began. That mystery… the gospel of grace. A gospel that has nothing to do with “thy Kingdom come”. For 2,000 years God has offered man grace and peace, not a kingdom. That offer will not stand indefinitely.

Still, God made promises to people He will not/can not break. That earthly Kingdom will someday come and it does not belong to Christians.

Colossians 3:1-3 KJB… “If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.”

Ours is a heavenly inheritance.

You write… “The god of judaism is a vengeful god, totally unlike the merciful and welcoming God of Christianity.”

Jesus Christ is God.

Hebrews 13:8 KJB… “Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.”

John 1:1-3, 14 KJB… “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”

He has not changed. The ways in which He deals with mankind over time does. Understanding this most basic fact is the key to understanding scripture. We must rightly divide the word of truth between prophesy and mystery information.

The believing Jews of yesteryear will inherit exactly what God promised them. They will someday be the channel of blessings from God to the nations as was Gods intent for them from the beginning. It’s called resurrection from the dead. And it goes all the way back to…

Genesis 12:1-3 KJB… “Now the Lord had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father’s house, unto a land that I will shew thee: And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.”

anarchyst
anarchyst
  grace country pastor
February 11, 2019 1:30 pm

Thank you for your concise assertions. I respect your points-of-view, but must dissent from your assertion that the “land” of the jews is physical “real estate”. In my humble opinion, to be an Israeli is a “state of mind” and not physical property. If one subscribes to the “land of Israel” concept, it could be safely argued that the “good ol’ USA”is actually the “land of Israel”…
Best regards,

MadJack
MadJack
  grace country pastor
February 11, 2019 11:07 pm

Deeply Flawed Theology. The NT makes it clear, over and over again, that the Jews are out of the picture after their rejection of Jesus. God gave them a generation to repent, after which he destroyed their temple, destroyed their genealogical records so the priesthood could never be reestablished, then slaughtered and enslaved millions of them. Revealtion is an account of the events of AD 70. If you doubt this, read it alongside Josephus’ Jewish War.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  MadJack
February 11, 2019 11:31 pm

madjack,
start believing again —

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  MadJack
February 12, 2019 12:14 am

MadJack, were you a Preterist at one time? You and I seem to have the same interpretation of scripture. I even went as far as to suggest people read Josephus’ “Jewish Wars” and compare it to Revelations and got told off, but Stucky came to my defense.

MadJack
MadJack
  Vixen Vic
February 12, 2019 10:50 pm

VV,

Though I am no longer a Christian, I am still a Preterist. Christians are foolish not to at least look into it. It would help us greatly.
For anyone interested I strongly recommend Behind The Veil of Moses by Brian L. Martin. It is the best single volume work I am aware of. Also Don K. Preston’s works are excellent. I doubt inbredcountrypastor has read any Preterist works.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  MadJack
February 13, 2019 12:23 am

Thank you for those references. I’ll check into them.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  MadJack
February 12, 2019 12:55 pm

Define the NT MadJack. What is it? Where does it begin? Where does it end? To whom was it given? And, why?

Are Believers Today New Testament Christians?

I’ll admit to being unusual, uncommon, unpopular… but deeply flawed, not at all.

You write… “Revealtion is an account of the events of AD 70. If you doubt this, read it alongside Josephus’ Jewish War.”

I do not doubt it, I know it to be false. You want me to read what an unsaved Jewish historian wrote when I have Gods word? I’ll pass thank you, even though I do possess his book and find it interesting. The Hebrew epistles, of which the Revelation of Jesus Christ is one, are books of future Biblical truth. They have nothing to do with anything the God of the Bible is currently doing in the world today. Today and for the past 2,000 years, He freely offers grace and peace to this fallen world. If you don’t know this deep in your soul, you need to reevaluate things.

Rom 5:17-18… “For if by one man’s offense death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) Therefore as by the offense of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the FREE GIFT came upon all men unto justification of life.”

The preterist position is easily refuted with rightly divided scripture. If you believe we are living in “thy Kingdom come” at the present time, you are in for some serious disappointment.

Paul writes, for very good reason…

2 Tim 2:7… “Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things.”
2 Tim 2:15… “Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.”

…you should find out why. Paul does not beseech us to study Josephus, but the scriptures which are able to make one wise unto salvation.

2 Tim 3:15… “And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.”

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  grace country pastor
February 13, 2019 12:35 am

During the Olivet discourse, Jesus himself said, “this generation” will not pass before what he said would be carried out was carried out. He also said the stones of the temple would be torn apart with no stone left standing upon another. Which is exactly what happened when the Romans destroyed the temple so they could get to all the jewels, gold and silver adorning it. What does “this generation” say to you? Is it not the generation of people he was directly talking to? Those are Jesus’ own words according to the bible.

My own believe is Jesus returned just as he said he would to destroy Jerusalem, that den of vipers. And he used the Roman army to do it in 70 A.D.

And the suggestion to read the “Jewish Wars” is only a comparison to show that what Revelations said would happen happened in 70 A.D. It is just further proof of the Bible but from a secular source. Just as Titus’ mention of the persecution of Christians is another proof of the Bible from a secular source.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Vixen Vic
February 13, 2019 1:08 pm

Good day Double V…! Your points are sound. I appreciate your comments and am glad you consider such things. One of three verses on the subject reads:

Mat 24:34… “Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

Stucky, you can stop reading here. This will be a lengthy screed. I apologize but these good thoughts can’t be summed up in a little tidbit of a comment.

The context of “all these things being fulfilled” are the signs of Christs return in vengeance to take His earthly throne. A few verses previous He states:

Mat 24:29-30… “Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

The preterist position believes this to have happened in 70 AD, BECAUSE the generation of men Christ was speaking to was still alive, but perished shortly thereafter.

You write… “He also said the stones of the temple would be torn apart with no stone left standing upon another. Which is exactly what happened when the Romans destroyed the temple so they could get to all the jewels, gold and silver adorning it.”

And the temple was destroyed and sacked at about the same time. I’m not arguing human history here. (As always) what I am arguing is prophesy versus mystery and its importance to understanding our reality. When Jesus was speaking the words we both quote, was Paul yet on the scene? No. He does not show up till mid-Acts. (This is critical to remember.)

I take it you do understand Daniel’s 70 weeks. The 69’th week was upon them in Matthew, with the 70’th set to begin. At Stephens murder after Christ ascended to Gods right hand, what does He see?

Acts 7:55-56… “But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

He see’s his murdered King standing, not seated, but standing in preparation for His return to earth in judgement and war against those who did not believe; against the unrighteous. Again, the preterist position must hold that Christ actually returned as He said he would and brought in God’s Kingdom; which it then must spiritualize as NOT a physical earthly Kingdom which it happens to be (see Daniel 2:44 and read about a Kingdom that breaks all physical worldly kingdoms to pieces) but as a spiritual (not literal) kingdom “within the hearts of men” as per:

Luke 17:21… “Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Do I have that about right? Thus the Kingdom promised since the world began is here and we believers are living it currently. As with all denominational belief systems (rather then straight up Bible belief) verses are selected and chosen based upon what the denomination and its adherents want to believe. How does the Bible describe the actual Kingdom?

Isaiah 35… “The wilderness and the solitary place shall be glad for them; and the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose. It shall blossom abundantly, and rejoice even with joy and singing: the glory of Lebanon shall be given unto it, the excellency of Carmel and Sharon, they shall see the glory of the Lord, and the excellency of our God. Strengthen ye the weak hands, and confirm the feeble knees. Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you. Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped. Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert. And the parched ground shall become a pool, and the thirsty land springs of water: in the habitation of dragons, where each lay, shall be grass with reeds and rushes. And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men, though fools, shall not err therein. No lion shall be there, nor any ravenous beast shall go up thereon, it shall not be found there; but the redeemed shall walk there: And the ransomed of the Lord shall return, and come to Zion with songs and everlasting joy upon their heads: they shall obtain joy and gladness, and sorrow and sighing shall flee away.

Israel is saved! She is the “way of holiness” where the redeemed walk. The blind were given sight, the deaf hearing. The lame man lept as an hart! What did Peter say to a lame man?

Acts 3:6-8… “Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk. And he took him by the right hand, and lifted him up: and immediately his feet and ankle bones received strength. And he leaping up stood, and walked, and entered with them into the temple, walking, and leaping, and praising God.

All these miracles were signs to Israel that their Messiah had come just as God promised them. They were proof that Christ was who He said He was. The signs were done according to prophesy; they were not haphazard or random “acts of kindness”. They served a deliberate purpose. (satan counterfeits the same to deceive and destroy men – 2 Thes:2)

1 Cor 1:22… “For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:

Compare to doctrine for you and me…

Rom 2 Cor 5:7… “(For we walk by faith, not by sight:)” (this is good so as not to be deceived by satan’s trickery)

This is what this post is about. Is Zion, Zion? Does Jerusalem resemble that which is described above? Because that is what God has promised believing Israel; the believing generation that shall not pass. Let’s examine one more verse to put a fine point on things.

Zechariah 12:10… “And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Is this the attitude of those who inhabit Jerusalem? Clearly, no.

SO WHAT HAPPENED?

Christ did not return by way of the Roman army even though the Roman army has its way with Jerusalem. The world will KNOW when Christ returns. Christ called Paul in Acts chapter 9, right after Stephen was murdered and began a “program” which had been kept secret since before the beginning of the world. The “mystery”. The prophetic time clock stopped and the mystery was revealed to Paul who writes:

1 Cor 2:7-8… “But we speak the wisdom of God in a MYSTERY, even the HIDDEN WISDOM, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

Mystery therefore = hidden wisdom. God revealed something to Paul, something that was heretofore HIDDEN, that, had the princes of this world known, Christ would never had been crucified; and salvation would not have been possible for any of us. That’s big, no? And people ignore it!!! satan has obscured it in “new perversions” like the NIV, etc…

What is the core of that mystery? The new creature… the church which is His body. Not the Jerusalem church whose leaders will someday sit upon 12 thrones judging the 12 tribes of Israel. An unprophesied NEW creation! Us! We are a new creature… old things are passed away (2 Cor 5 – read it). Peter makes an inquiry of the Lord after they left their jobs and families, sold all their possessions and followed Him; and the Lord answers:

Mat 19:27-29… “Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore? And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name’s sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.

If the preterist position is accurate, where are Peter and the 11? Why are they not seated upon thrones in Israel? Why is Israel not Christ centered? The generation passed away…! A question however; will they not be resurrected? Of course they will be. Again, and to my continued point, the prophetic time clock stopped. This is the key to understanding ALL of the Bible. Paul.

I understand that this is foreign to most, and difficult to believe because it is absolutely NOT what is taught in the vast majority of the worlds churches. The churches put the King James Bible away a century ago and what we all see as “Christianity” today is the result. Sorry to be so blunt, and I hope I’m not further confusing the issue, but the Bible is not a book of bumper sticker slogans one can pick and choose from. It is the story of human history; past, present and future.

I’m saying that the Bible (the KING JAMES BIBLE) can be trusted absolutely if one decides to believe it literally. I know most will choose to believe otherwise. Anyway…

The prophetic clock stopped with one week (7 years) to go. God revealed the mystery dispensation of grace to Paul because He KNOWS human beings cannot save themselves from themselves. We are corrupt. He KNEW Israel would fail to keep the covenant (as any of us would have) from before He created the world. For the past 2,000 years He has offered grace and peace freely to any and all who would trust in Christ’s shed blood WITHOUT the nation Israel as mediator; which was what the nation was created for in the first place. Israel was to be / will someday be… the channel of blessing from God to the nations as per the Abrahamic covenant in Genesis 12 which Paul references in:

Gal 3:8… “And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

Look… the gospel of Abraham! NOT “Christ died for your sins” BUT “in thee shall all nations be blessed“. The Bible contains many gospels. To understand the Bible one MUST understand the separation, the DIVISION between prophesy and mystery. Look at what Peter says to the gathered Jews in:

Acts 3:19-21… “Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord. And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath SPOKEN by the mouth of all his holy prophets SINCE THE WORLD BEGAN.

He says “repent (of what? killing their King…) and He (God the Father) shall send (future tense) Christ back (Christ is seated at the Fathers right hand… he stands in Acts 7) to fix things”. Here is the key… until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath SPOKEN by the mouth of all his holy prophets SINCE THE WORLD BEGAN. Prophesy in a nutshell. That which was SPOKEN since the world began. The restitution of all things. Sin wiped from the earth. I ask sincerely, is sin wiped clean from off the face of the earth? No. Sin abounds! It’s all we seem to discuss here. However, God is so very good, so very patient with us, for:

Rom 5:20… “Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:

This is the very essence of the world we live in, in relation to God. Man’s inability to keep the law proves his sin nature. Israel and the covenantal (law) program set aside… sin abounds and God’s grace that much more abounds, in that, He does not utterly destroy this world as I write these words because that’s what the world deserves. Yet… GRACE ABOUNDS!!! Celebrate it! Shout it from the rooftops! God’s not mad, He wants PEACE (Rom 5 – read it)! (For now.) Look back at the verses in 1 Corinthians above to find that which was KEPT SECRET since the world began. And here too:

Romans 16:25-27… “Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to MY GOSPEL, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the MYSTERY, which was KEPT SECRET since the world began, BUT NOW is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to ALL NATIONS for the obedience of faith: To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen.

Christ did not return in judgement and war in 70 AD, even though Jerusalem was sacked. We wouldn’t be here if He had. He sent Paul to declare the mystery of grace and peace to all of mankind, sans Israel, in order that humanity had one more opportunity, a 2,000 year opportunity, to come to Him freely. How much more patient will God be? I have no idea (and it’s not knowable anyway).

2 Cor 6:2… “(For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.)

This “dispensation of grace” will end when it does (any minute now?) with God’s calling His ambassadors (saved people) home. Grace and peace will give way to judgement and war. Daniel’s 70’th week will commence. Christ will return with a mighty band of angels and He is going to wreck this place in order that sin itself be destroyed… sin abounds. The mystery will end and all prophesy will be fulfilled. “That generation” will rise from the dead (it has not yet passed even though the men themselves died – the clock just stopped) and Christ will claim His rightful deed to the ownership of earth given away to lucifer by Adam some 6,000 years ago. Christ will be revealed as the Creator God He truly is and the world will never be the same.

If the preterist view were correct Zion would be the Zion of the Bible and clearly it’s not. If Zion isn’t Zion, what then is it?

John 8:44… “Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.”

What has changed since Christ spoke those words? Nothing. The mystery will come and go. They remain in unbelief, the synagogue of satan… he who deceives the whole world. Counterfeit Israel. And “Christianity” falls for it.

Rev 12:9… “And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.” (future – as satan and his minions are still in business)

You write… “It is just further proof of the Bible but from a secular source.”

The Bible needs no secular proof. When understood from the mid-Acts dispensational position, it demonstrates itself to be the worlds only source of truth.

MC begins this remarkable piece with these words:

Hosea 4:6… “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

I ain’t no priest (the only priests God ever ordained were Levites) and I’m not under the law; but I have not rejected knowledge as found in God’s word. I trust it with my eternal soul.

grace and peace to you and yours…

White Rationalist
White Rationalist
  grace country pastor
February 13, 2019 6:53 pm

If anyone would like to hear more about rightly dividing the Bible, there is a Bible conference in Central Texas April 12-14. Among many things, it answers any questions about contemporary Israel and Christianity.

https://gracecountrybiblechurch.com/2019/02/12/round-rock-texas-bible-conference-2019/

Taras 77
Taras 77
February 10, 2019 7:47 pm

Thanks Mary Christine:

This is provided for FWIW:

Probably not news to a lot of people who read the alternative news web sites, obviously not MSM, but there is profound disillusionment and despair at the present situation in this country. It is a disaster and everyone seems to be waiting for the next shoe to fall. It probably is not necessary to go into all of the hardships and absurdities people experience but people are waiting for someone to take charge and provide a plan. The Q “trust the plan” just does not cut it anymore if it ever was legitimate. At the moment, it does not look like anyone is doing anything, promises of investigations, FISA files disclosed, etc have not been fulfilled.

I do peruse youtubes for information, not excessively, but do monitor. There is one commentator, Seething Frog, who now has proposed that we “do something.” He believes that we do not have much choice and not that much time to turn this disaster around.

Immediately, everyone’s antenna go up as to how much money does he want, what does he propose, as there are grifters galore that plead for support, money, to keep in the business of keeping us informed. I do not believe that he is the grifter type.

His idea is to try to organize to create in your face ruckuses or wherever, somewhat vague about that, but he says that 3% of the population, approximately 10 million organized around the country, could make a difference. Immediate goal is substantially less than that number.

He does not need nor want direct money contributions except to fund the creation of a domain through a fund (details to come later). He may have the domain name, Neon Vests. That is not clear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzycFl8Jt5I
(important explanation-start here, a couple are earlier but this one is a good place to start)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86aGHWbq3XY
(latest explanation)

This is all I have at the moment-I tend to believe the guy is legitimate. Take a look. I have no direct skin in this game but I am interested and watching as it develops. My overall skin in the game is watching this country self-destruct at the hands of some very evil people.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Taras 77
February 10, 2019 10:09 pm

“My overall skin in the game is watching this country self-destruct at the hands of some very evil people.”

We have the ENEMY and then we have the enemy, you know, the one that Pogo always talked about?

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Mary Christine
February 10, 2019 11:16 pm

amen,mc,the enemy is us for not getting off our duffs & voting people out of office–
pogo was correct–

mark
mark
  Taras 77
February 10, 2019 11:20 pm

I would love to see this seed grow some serious grass roots!

I sent him my Congressional district and e-mail.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
February 10, 2019 8:35 pm

Last time I checked (this morning) this was at around 100. I guess I started a shitfest, huh? It wasn’t my intention, to just start a shitfest, but that is what makes TBP amazing, to get a discussion going, whatever you call it!

I made it into the city and back with a stop. You don’t drive into the city and waste it without at least making one stop while you are there. We are under another weather advisory for more ice and sleet. I think it’s February 110th, isn’t it?

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Mary Christine
February 10, 2019 9:48 pm

Mary C…
You got high praise from some serious thinkers. Adoah Mac even said it’s the best thing ever posted on here.
Hope I didn’t Taint it with my It’s the Jews thing.
Like BL and some others said. It was a gutsy move.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Fleabaggs
February 10, 2019 10:36 pm

Gutsy unless I end up like HollyO.

DD NM
DD NM
  Mary Christine
February 11, 2019 8:22 am
Mary Christine
Mary Christine
February 10, 2019 10:35 pm

I think maybe we should chill. I was hoping someone would look deeper into FASB56. It’s confusing and there are many who can understand that type of mumbo jumbo better than I can. Anyway, chill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT-SFgkVlno

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
February 10, 2019 10:43 pm

When I was growing up, I never heard anyone talk about Jews except at church, and that was basically teaching what was happening in the Bible. It wasn’t until I met my ex-husband, a Connecticut Yankee, that I first heard someone talk about how bad the Jews were. He and his mother would both talk about it, especially when watching the news. It wasn’t until I hit the Internet that I ran into a lot of stuff about Jews.

I wonder if that difference was between the northern and southern cultures until the Internet came along. What do you guys think?

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Vixen Vic
February 11, 2019 12:16 am

V V..
It was the New York Jews who were universally despised where I grew up in central N.J. We had every nationality and race under the sun there due to proximity to the ports in North Jersey and N.Y. and we made a distinction between Jews who lived among us and N.Y. Jews.
They were not all from n.y. some were in North Jersey but they were as a group quite unlikable. Cheap, greedy, pushy, always screaming about you trying to cheat them or how they will sue you etc.
The local J ews avoided them as well. They were no different than us. Make no mistake, were all very clanish according to nationality and we called each other all kinds of names but that was just survival. We didn’t really despise anyone except n.y. Jews and of course Gypsies. Their summer headquarters were nearby.that was in the 50’s.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Fleabaggs
February 11, 2019 1:17 am

Simple – hardly any Jews in the south. NY is around 7% by memory.,

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Llpoh
February 11, 2019 2:21 am

Well, that makes perfect sense. More geographical. Thanks, Llpoh.
And thank you, Fleabaggs, as well.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Fleabaggs
February 11, 2019 2:23 am

Fleabaggs, my ex grew up in Greenwich, CT, very, very close to NY. city, so that makes sense.

TampaRed
TampaRed
February 10, 2019 10:54 pm

as i write this at a little after 10 pm,the comment count is at 277,not bad mary christine,not bad at all–
i have a few questions and comments-
mention was made regarding israel & china becoming allies–israel is going to do what they believe is in their own self interest,and if they believe that china can do more for them then the us,china is who they will favor–didn’t a british statesman once say that nations have no permanent friends,just permanent interests?many of you might remember that until the 1960s israel was as much a client state of the soviets as they were of the us–we need to find a country w/a mediterranean port who will allow us to use it in case israel boots us out of there–
this is also a good example of why we should never give 1st generation weapons or technology to any ally,not even israel,england,or even canuckistan–

as to the boycott law,why is israel the only country that this law applies to?
the bds movement that is the cause of this law,which originally was used against s.africa, is pushed by the left,the same people who are pushing the phony russian collusion garbage,what if they start a boycott of russia,are state/local govts able to not do biz w/them because of their stance,and if not why can they enforce it on israel?does that show that israel has an outsized influence on us lawmakers?if that is the case,how do we stop it?

as to jews themselves & not israel,many people have pointed out that jews comprise the decision making leadership or dominate the leadership of many american businesses or institutions that are considered part of the reasons for america’s decline–is that coincidence or by design?how do we change the situation?
most of the jews i’ve known in my life are fine,decent people who attained their positions in life by hard,smart work but for those of you who blame our problems on jews,what are your solutions?

BL
BL
  TampaRed
February 10, 2019 11:46 pm

Congrats Mary!! You have crossed the 300 mark and are still traveling at light speed toward 400.

DD NM
DD NM
  BL
February 11, 2019 7:39 am

Bea, I’m sure you know a couple of pranksters who might write the Legend of Mary Christine, the brave soldier of our Lord who went forth boldly and shouted out the question which all the blind men in the room have refused to hear, though the elephant smells bad too and they call it aromatic herb. Woe to them. Woe, I say.

There are some interesting people showing up for this one. I just hope they don’t call the thought police right away.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  DD NM
February 11, 2019 9:38 am

You and me both.

BL
BL
  Mary Christine
February 11, 2019 11:14 am

Mary- Unc says that I have shit on your thread, please let me know if you feel that way. Not sure how he feels I did something to ruin a thread that is heading toward 400. I would be proud to shit up your thread to 500. 🙂

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  BL
February 11, 2019 11:31 am

People got distracted from my overall point, Bea. That would have happened regardless of who it was. I don’t get to direct who comments or what they say. I really did write it to help clear my head. If I write again, it will be completely different from this essay, as they have all been. I don’t like to write and I don’t have a natural gift for it as some here do. For me, it’s a huge chore and takes entirely too much of my time.

Feel free to comment as you wish.

BL
BL
  Mary Christine
February 11, 2019 11:44 am

I guess I’ll ignore questions in the future that come my way, I have no control over their asking. You, after all put the live hand grenades in the article. You have been rewarded with much deserved praise and comment count.

Could you restate what you wanted us to debate and we’ll try again?

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  BL
February 11, 2019 12:03 pm

“I keep going back to the interview with Catherine Austin Fitts and wondering how much of the money in those back door bailouts is being used to fund nefarious activities related to the endless wars that Israel keeps wanting us to fight for them?”

FASB56. What are they doing with all that money, not just Israel but Venezuela, etc. and black budgets that are blacker than than black. Is CAF right to be concerned about FASB56. I’m no economic scholar but plenty of people here including Admin, are.

BL
BL
  Mary Christine
February 11, 2019 1:18 pm

MC- If the weight of the world, to feed, house, entertain, (include shock and awe) were on your shoulders as a group of wizards, how much would it cost? BUT, is it right that these wizards live a very high life while the people they are charged with entertaining in this hotel are living in cars and on the streets? Is it right that some wizards have many castles when children go hungry?

BL
BL
  BL
February 11, 2019 1:24 pm

Mary- A NEW AGE full of wonder and new scenery ain’t cheap, are we to be robbed of our life’s labor/money and left on the sidewalk while they change the scenery in the back of the theater? Sure looks like it.

DD NM
DD NM
  Mary Christine
February 12, 2019 5:36 am

I think you are onto something Mary. The reaction I got from my Christian Zionist contact tells me you hit a nerve somewhere.

SouthAfrican
SouthAfrican
  Mary Christine
February 15, 2019 2:50 am

Please add South Africa to that FASB56. Something fishy is going on down here and the Chinese and Jews are behind it all. We have proof that a Jewish man Nathan Kirsch Paid Malema R9 million. Malema wants all whites dead. Eskom our electricity government run and owned is bankrupt. We have load shedding like Venezuela. Lights out for SA Literally. Many of our Christians are in love with the Jews. I have been woken up to their lies.

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
February 11, 2019 12:30 am

2 questions…

1) why is the holocaust such a huge remembrance in the west?

2) why are governments enacting laws concerning it/Israel?

These 2 things will naturally cause endless division.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Donkey Balls
February 11, 2019 1:23 am

1) Jews are a successful and powerful minority, and Israel was created by the west.
2) see above, plus the alliance the west has with Israel, the oil in the middle east, the nukes that Israel has and might well use if push comes to shove, did I mention the oil? Those are my best guesses. I think there would be a general concern that Israel might flatten the Middle East if they feel under terminal threat. But is confuses hell out of me why the west would bother.m

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Llpoh
February 11, 2019 9:33 am

Llpoh, this is a reply to your comment early in the thread.

“The author says above “Apparently, nothing else was as important as this bill, which makes it illegal to criticize Israel.”
That is an outright lie”

Being called a liar is a serious charge. I could not let that go by without commenting.
Did I sensationalize somewhat, as Maggie says. Maybe so. Maybe if people had sensationalized their protests against legalized abortion back in the early 70’s we would now not have to fight against legalized infanticide. I was a kid so I don’t remember any arguments for or against abortion. But I can assume people used the slippery slope argument and it’s a good one because that is almost always what happens.
The ACLU has sued Texas and Kansas, taking on similar laws. In Texas a teacher was fired. In Kansas:
“The law led the state Department of Education to send to Esther Koontz, who had completed a course on training math teachers, a form titled “Certification Individual or Company Not Currently Engaged in a Boycott of Israel.” Koontz, inspired by her Mennonite church, was boycotting Israel and would not sign the document. The ACLU filed a lawsuit on her behalf in a federal court…Laws have unintended consequences and even when misapplied can backfire on their drafters’ intent, said Rachel Lerner, the senior vice president for community relations at J Street. The liberal Jewish Mideast lobby opposes BDS, but sees the anti-BDS laws as infringing on free speech. Pro-Israel groups should stick to advocacy to counter BDS and avoid legislative bids to stop the boycotts, says J Street.
“You’re pursuing a strategy that’s out of your control how it’s implemented,” Lerner said. “It’s like using a cudgel for an issue; it’s the wrong tool. It’s not good for the Jews or Israel that people think that they can’t have a roof over their head if they boycott Israel.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/state-anti-bds-laws-are-hitting-unintended-targets-and-nobodys-happy/

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Mary Christine
February 11, 2019 9:38 am

The “roof over their head” is in regards to how the law was used in Texas to keep people from getting aid to help clean up after a hurricane if they did not sign the “promise not to boycott”

llpoh
llpoh
  Mary Christine
February 11, 2019 6:04 pm

I did not look into it in detail, but that clearly seems to be a mis-application of the law. And in my comments above, it is one of the reasons why I object to this law, as it will be mis-used and will grow beyond what it states in the Act.

With respect to getting aid, aid/charity is not a right. Seems to me govts, charities, individuals all have a right to put whatever conditions they want on the giving of charitable donations. Don’t like the conditions? Don’t take the money. If I will only give charity to those that paint their faces purple and do a rain-dance, so be it. Charity is not a right. At least not in my opinion.

llpoh
llpoh
  Mary Christine
February 11, 2019 5:57 pm

Mary – serious charge but accurate. You have not retracted, so you seem to be doubling down on the lies. Hell, the above does not even admit to sensationalizing, as you only say “maybe so”. The rest of your comments in the above post are worthy of debate and discussion. And they reflect what I have said above as issues that are worthy of debate and consideration, but the debate is not entirely black and white, and both sides can make good arguments.

But still you have not addressed what you wrote in that article and portrayed as outright fact.

Did you even read the act? Or did you accept and regurgitate what someone else said as fact? Either way, what you posted as fact were absolutely untrue, whether you did so intentionally or as a result of slipshod research.

When you build a case for your position off of lies, and make no mistake, those are lies, your positions become nothing more than propaganda, and it establishes that you are not interested in the truth, but rather are determined to promote an agenda or position that cannot be supported on its own merits. I think that is beneath you.

You cannot, and have not, defended what you have said as truth, as it is impossible to do so honestly. The Act does not make it illegal to criticize Israel, and there is no loyalty oath required. I collected thumbs down for pointing out those facts. But the truth is what it is.

You are dancing around the subject. You know those statements are unequivocally false, and you have not addressed that. Time to woman up and retract.

Ottomatik
Ottomatik
  llpoh
February 11, 2019 7:17 pm

She titled the article “The Awful Truth” no less, and further shamed those with cogdis for not surrendering to the ultimate truth of it.

DD NM
DD NM
  Mary Christine
February 11, 2019 8:38 pm

Ahem, I think you refer to a comment I made about HYPERBOLE being a valid technique used in journalism, when used for good reason. If used sparingly, hyperbole can be a useful tool to draw attention to a “likely” outcome.

Anyway, my friend (who once had dual citizenship there) may be calling her friends in Chabad organizations right now. Seriously, Mary, when the laptop announces it is time to self-destruct, save yourself and let it burn. This really was Mission Impossible, but I was very impressed that you did wade right in and start hollering “I’m Mad as Hell and I’m Not Gonna Take It Anymore!”

Now, have a much deserved glass of wine.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  DD NM
February 11, 2019 11:37 pm

Saw that video on Lew Rockwell’s site.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  DD NM
November 24, 2019 10:20 am

One of the best Beatles songs ever written.

October Sky
October Sky
  Donkey Balls
February 11, 2019 11:29 am

2) why are governments enacting laws concerning it/Israel?

In a Know the News approach, Adam Green explores this question with material that ties into Mary Christine’s essay. The noahide laws, China’s partnerships, the interest in replacing the UN and more are covered.

https://youtu.be/syUSQEUpTTQ

DD NM
DD NM
February 11, 2019 6:17 am

Well, Mary Christine, I see 300 plus comments which suggests this was a conversation waiting to happen.

BL
BL
  DD NM
February 11, 2019 6:30 pm

Maggie DD- I think you are exactly right. I hope this thing goes to 1000.

M G
M G
  DD NM
November 24, 2019 11:12 am

See? SAO? I was DDNM for a while. Was the only way out…

Not Sure
Not Sure
February 11, 2019 7:58 am

I’m 333 congrats! Does that make me a mini evil one?
Don’t know if I’ll keep that.
Anyway, I to am a Christian who has been schooled in the part Israel plays in the plan of God restoring all things to Himself.
And I to have had my views tossed about by the many truths of Israel being involved with most things heinous.
I came to my own conclusion that was able to accept the evil that Israel is, with the truth that God will still come for her, mainly because of Gods promise to Abraham and not because they are the salt of the earth; that is the church’s responsibility.
Think about it, was there any reform that took place in Israel after they cried out crucify him. Crucify him? No.
And so it was for the rest of the New Testament world that I’m sure after rejecting Jesus, they would only have gotten worse.
But God used their rejection to bring salvation to the world because of His promise to them and also will return for Hos church and a remnant of Jews who will look upon him whom they have pierced.
I don’t have any links because this is my own conclusion and I do not know if anyone else has considered this.
Anyway great well researched and eye opening article. Continue to use your gift to enlighten others.
Sorry I’m late to the party (again). I wonder if anyone will read this?

DD NM
DD NM
  Not Sure
February 11, 2019 8:16 am

Believe it or not, the 333 caught my eye. Halfway to the mark of the beastie, eh?

Anonymous
Anonymous
February 11, 2019 8:17 am

To claim the Third Temple is yet to be built is to Deny Jesus Christ.
Jesus “The LAMB of GOD” was the FINAL sacrifice (accepted by God) by the Temple Priests.
Jesus “REARED UP” the Third Temple, HIMSELF, in three days, on Easter morning. JOHN 2:20 King James Bible “Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?”
No matter how you look at it …. The THIRD Temple has already BEEN “built”
Mathew 27:51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
The Second (third?)Temple veil was DESTROYED as Jesus died, the LAMB of GOD sacrificed on the Cross, and the THIRD TEMPLE was “reared up” on the THIRD DAY, Easter Sunday. JESUS is the THIRD TEMPLE if you are a CHRISTian.
and also …..
Per Peloubet’s Bible Dictionary 1925 there (ALREADY) were THREE physical Temples in Jewish history:
FIRST Temple built by Solomon, for a little more then 400 years, from @ B.C. 1000 to B.C. 588. From Solomon to the Babylonian exile.
SECOND Temple Zereubbabel’s or the Temple of the Return, built with the aid of the Prophets Zechariah and Haggai, lasted nearly 500 years years, from it’s completion B.C. 515 to B.C. 20. We see by the description of Ezra 6:3 that this Temple was about one third larger then Solomon’s.
THIRD Temple Herod’s Temple lasting only @ 90 years from B.C. 20 to it’s destruction by Titus, August A.D. 70. “JOHN 2:20 King James Bible “Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?””
The whole area or platform was called the Temple. Solomon made it about 600 feet square, containing 12 acres. This area ,according to Josephus, was nearly doubled when Herod built the THIRD temple.
King Herod the Great spent 30 years refurbishing Zorobabel’s temple (the second temple) just in time for the coming of Christ, who not only prophesied that the temple would be destroyed — which is was in 70 A.D. by the 21-year-old Roman general Titus (son of Vespasian), but Christ also condemned all further Hebrew temple worship forever.
————-
The problem is that there has already been a third temple.

The first Temple is the Temple built by David and Solomon, which is presumed to have existed even though there is no archaeological evidence to prove it. (The Pomegranate Staff ornament and the Jehoash Tablet once cited as physical proof of the First Temple have both been exposed as hoaxes). That temple is supposedly destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar.

The Second Temple was the one built by Zerubbabel following the Babylonian Captivity. That temple is eventually converted to the Roman Akva Fortress. When Pompey invades Judea, he finds the remains of the Second Temple to be empty.

The Third Temple was built by Herod the Great in an attempt to ingratiate himself with his Jewish subjects. The Temple Mount is enlarged, leveled, and a completely new Temple constructed on the foundation of the old Roman Fortress.

This Temple of Herod is declared the Third Temple at the time, but is destroyed by Hadrian in 136 who then builds a Temple of Jupiter and statue of himself on the spot.

Because none of the religious prophecies connected to the creation of the Third Temple actually materialized before its destruction (and a revolt to try to retake the mount and start a third temple failed), the Jewish priests simply declared Herod’s Temple had only been a “rebuild” of the Second Temple, even though the construction, lasting over 40 years, was a complete replacement from the ground up.

By this swindle the priests were able to keep leading their flocks with wonderful prophecies about what the erecting of the Third Temple would bring, not unlike the various religious groups that predict the end of the world, then when the prediction fails, simply change the numbers and go back to business as usual.

But the fact is that, if you stipulate that David and Solomon’s Temple really did exist, then Israel has already had their three temples.

MadJack
MadJack
  Anonymous
February 11, 2019 10:47 pm

I’m not a Christian but you are absolutely right. Christians cannot be in favor of rebuilding the Temple. This becomes clear if you read the Revelation from a Preterist point of view (which seems to be the plain sense of the text.)

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  MadJack
February 12, 2019 12:08 am

MadJack, I’m a Preterist and that’s how I read it.

James Borowy
James Borowy
February 11, 2019 8:30 am

Thank you for your courage in stating this very politically incorrect piece. You are absolutely correct and I Also voted for this deceptive president. The great deception is upon us

JDrew
JDrew
February 11, 2019 8:39 am

Too much to unpack…servitude beckons.

Todd
Todd
February 11, 2019 8:39 am

We can know the future as the past not simply with pure speculation or educated guesses but by trusting in the word of the LORD of Hosts.

This world is in great turmoil because of sin.

For it is written that within the next 8 years Jesus will come and Rapture His bride, the true church, great war will occur and out of it will arise a NWO, a false messiah and his false prophet to rule the world and bring a 7 year false covenant of peace with Israel and the world.
When peace and safety is declared sudden destruction will occur and then great Judgement from God above on a rebellious and unbelieving world.
Then the return of Jesus at Armageddon in great fury and redemption to destroy the armies of the Antichrist and to take back the earth that is rightfully His.
He will then rule the earth as the Lion of Judah with a rod of iron from the throne of David in Jerusalem for 1000 years.
For it is written.
Regard or disregard by faith or unbelief at your own redemption or peril.
For it is written.

The bible is clear on these immediate matters and has proven foreknowledge with 100% accuracy to date.

Just begin with Revelation chapter 13.

The key to its timing is the end of the 2000 year spiritual diaspora in Hosea 6:1&2 of the Jewish people beginning with their rejection as messiah and crucifixion of Jesus will conclude in 2032 or 2033 and minus the 7 year 70th week of Daniel all these really bad things will begin between now and 2025 or 2026.

What we personally believe is of no consequence if it differs from the Word of God.

In God’s world either we believe or we don’t. We are either with Jesus or against Him.

For it is written.

MadJack
MadJack
  Todd
February 11, 2019 10:41 pm

I have no interest in anything found in the Big Book of Jewish Fairytales. Much prefer Grimm. And your demon lord Yahweh has no power over me, nor his fictiitious son.

Rumplestiltskin
Rumplestiltskin
February 11, 2019 8:43 am

It is interesting that three of the worst religions on this planet came out of the same area….. What is it about the middle east that creates such aggressive peoples who could give a “S” less about those they exploit to their advantage, and all three back their claims through their religious beliefs because no would dare take them to task because it would be viewed at Sacrilege.

The Talmud, the Koran and the Bible are all books written and then compiled by man NOT YOUR GODS my friends. I am now informing all of you that your Gods, (yes plural) are not at all what you have been led to believe).

All three books were constructed as control mechanisms used to ham-string their people with rules and laws to serve the ruling class of Sociopaths. Their common theme was that God gave them the right to rule, but after two thousand years, we are finally investigating the righteousness of their claims. Sadly all three are being proven to be the worst expression of human endeavor that was ever created, and their claims of righteousness are now falling on deaf ears as we dissect their belief systems and expose them for what they are.

If you have been naive enough to have bought into these phony adaptations of Alien law, rather than human law, you may find it hard to step outside that box and look at them realistically. Ask yourselves this; Why is it OK to be able to question everything in life, but our supposed religious beliefs. Why would humans place their beliefs above all else regardless of where those beliefs are based on falsehoods or reality.

WE MUST QUESTION EVERYTHING AND FOR THOSE THINGS TO BE CONSIDERED SACROSANCT THEY MUST BENEFIT HUMANITY ON ALL LEVELS, NOT JUST THOSE THINGS THAT APPEAR QUESTIONABLE, BUT ALL THINGS. iF A BELIEF SYSTEM HAS HAM-STRUNG HUMANITY FOR OVER TWO THOUSAND YEARS IT IS TIME TO QUESTION ITS APPLICABILITY TO OUR GROWTH AS HUMAN ENTITIES.

RiNS
RiNS
  Rumplestiltskin
February 11, 2019 8:51 am

Great post rumple, it should be good for another 100 or so comments.

BL
BL
  RiNS
February 11, 2019 11:16 am

Ditto Rumple.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Rumplestiltskin
February 11, 2019 9:16 am

“rather than human law,”

Because humans never screw anything up.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Mary Christine
February 11, 2019 4:39 pm

+1,000 MC

🙂

Todd
Todd
  Rumplestiltskin
February 11, 2019 9:27 am

What part is difficult to believe regarding the God of the bible foretelling the future hundreds and hundreds of times over thousands of years by over 40 different authors in writing.
You and those like you wouldn’t believe if God showed up in person and raised people from the dead because you prefer to live and one day die in your sin rather than be honest and true.
Claiming ignorance before God’s throne of judgment won’t keep you from eternal hellfire only honesty with yourself, repentance and true saving faith in Jesus will.

RiNS
RiNS
  Todd
February 11, 2019 10:15 am

Thats just stupid Todd..

old white guy
old white guy
February 11, 2019 8:51 am

Knowing the truth and being unable to take physical action against what is happening alters nothing. Words are not adequate. Votes have become meaningless. A complete reset as revealed in revelation seems to be the only, if not final answer.

Tim Cummings
Tim Cummings
February 11, 2019 10:22 am

Great story!!! Glad to see a breaking out of biased journalism that even alt media was getting trapped into to the real war we need to be fighting!!! May God’s wisdom and Mercy continue to unfold the enemies plans and may a humble church (remnant) fight in the prayer room and yield to the Holy Spirit to an assembling for a last days move of God!!! In Yeshuah’s Name!!!

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
February 11, 2019 11:27 am

They say history doesn’t repeat but it does rhyme. Though in the case of Jew-hatred it seems like it does often repeat. Mary’s amateurish screed is a direct rip-off of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and Paris/Europe is starting to look a lot like 1939. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8402409/france-nazi-past-juden-graffiti-jewish-bakery-paris/