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“Select all squares with appalachian guerillas. hint: all of them”
and the squares behind you too.
The little old man or woman who keeps a .22 in the corner of the kitchen to shoot varmints in the backyard can easily put one of your eyes out.
“all of them”
nothing a drone with ir can’t spot.
Maybe, maybe not…..for every tactic and capability there is a countermeasure.
https://military-suits.com/offer/novelties/anti-ir
might want to read up on how ir actually works ….
The largest size is roughly good for a 6’2 185 lb man with a 17” neck and 41” waist. Maybe invest in 3 of these and the average keyboard warrior and sew them together and squeeze into it……
I love ya buddy…you are a bright guy, but…you are only really defeated when you think you can never win.
Piss and shit on TLPTB…come and get some spawn of hell.
No joke.
“you are only really defeated when you think you can never win.”
I really do prefer realistic assessment to emotional defiance. “a nation of 3 millions” and “to the last man” and “WOLVERINES!” and all that has its place, but if you’re relying on it before the conflict even starts then things don’t look so good.
I know you are a military guy and you have seen the awesome firepower and technical capabilities possessed by the US Military. OK, but I think you are making some questionable assumptions:
Why wouldn’t the US military fracture so both sides will have advanced weaponry and capabilities?
Insurgents routinely obtained sophisticated weapons and capabilities from third parties..a significant chunk of our military budget and the activity of personnel is supporting the combatants we like vs. the ones we don”t…..America being a bigger prize is going to see lots of interested third parties.
Who says the US Military will support a rogue government hunting their own citizens….maybe some units will while others stay on base and the “Government” doesn’t have unlimited access to those resources.
Who says that the “Right” is required to play insurgent….I guess your embedded assumption is that a revolt by the Left is easily quashed.
As to the Wolverine factor….the untrained but motivated will not likely move the needle and will be mostly cannon fodder, I agree on that. The trained and motivated will perform a Green Beret mission training cadre and the first rule of every successful insurgency including the American Revolution Continental Army…..just don’t suffer a war-ending defeat….
So no I don’t agree that it is as simplistic as Army has Apache’s and Hellfire missiles….”Game Over Man”….how has that worked out in Afgh? Vietnam? Iraq? and most insurgencies….Malaysia is considered a successful defeat of an insurgency as is the defeat of the Tamil Tigers and the IRA….all took 20+ years and the IRA was truly weak/pathetic but still held the Brits off for several decades.
One point that is valid is that the level of casualties amongst the insurgents is likely to be catastrophic compared to what Americans are accustomed to…..with limited medical support etc….but you know what….that tends to just harden the will of the survivors…just ask the Viet Cong….
I really hope this never ever happens, that the Left can be defeated in court or in the arena of ideas…..but it does not seem likely….
A relative is a recently retired F-15 driver and he assures me most of the AF pilots will stand with the people. I have a feeling that is true for most of the troops, as well, or maybe they will just sit it out.
If he is a military guy he needs to explain why the goat humpers are still there. How the Iraqis are still there. How the Viets are still there, the Norks are still there etc. Except for the Viets who are doing huge business with us and allied with us against China, all the others are still there and have a very large middle finger aimed right in our faces.
Because the ROG were hampering our military. If it was an all out war like WW2 the goathumpers would have all stopped humping in the first 75 hours. Seriously.
Do you think all the other countries will sit back and watch the US fight a civil war and not jump in.
Also remember the wives and children of these soldiers live out amoungst us.
People here grew up on Donkey Kong. And nobody in a uniform came to literally drag them out of the basement to play any real game. Sure, I know, they would be pissed if the the controller was taken out of their hand. But they have been yelled at before, and think that they will get it back in couple of days if they just wait.
I now hear whistling over the “kill, kill, kill” thumbs down hand. Yeah, that works too.
If these people you see aren’t closing in on the capitol now, then like when? I guess they don’t know there is war on. Maybe after they get drafted huh?
I know too, this isn’t the best way to amuse yourself. But from my forward position here I’m only telling you what I see. lol
I see No marches, nothing within earshot of citizens, patriots on the right other than keyboard warriors and a faith their “vote” will be enough. If you have been watching p, since Clinton, obummer and shrub and how they have stolen your country while we sat around doing nothing, saying nothing. What makes you think anyone is up for marching through the woods avoiding drones and then fighting for freedom?
We wont give up our tv remotes, xboxes and porn but somehow we have a belief we will start a shooting revolution? Seriously….Wow talk about cognitive dissonance. This is the final stages. The next dems in power will come full forward with 100% gun bans. That is their last step. And you can bet while people are searching for their remotes, or channel surfing they will wave off the feds and point them to their basement to get their guns because “aint nobody gots time fo dat, help yourself”.
We really are in a mess and the few that will stand up and fight will be made examples of. We all talk about how the jews waited too long and did nothing but we are doing the same. We still have a Constitution, Bill of Rights and time and ability to march and make our own voices heard, but instead we get drowned out and shouted down by a few faggots in dresses at the library. We are ants against elephants but think we are T-Rex. Our own misguided over confidence in ourselves and the system are historical. The right has done nothing for themselves other than play keyboard warrior and tolerate the insanity. We are more interested in watching the left go crazy than taking their threat seriously. This battle is over, already won, and we losers do not even see it for we think the battle has not even started. That is why it will be shock and awe when the left gains power again and the change seems so rapid. The system is set up for them to take power and move very quickly.
I am 80 years old and I just volunteered to join a local county militia. Put your principles where your mouth is.
Gooh for you Sionnach!
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/national-guardsman-we-will-not-comply-if-ordered-by-virginia-governor-to-arrest-police-confiscate-guns/ You might want to rethink that.
Martel…just scanned the article…why do you think Sionnach Liath should rethink making a defiant stand with likeminded Americans?
No matter what happens currently, those could be valuable connections once TSHTF. One day it is going to get real tribal real fast, and being part of a local county militia could be critical in surviving and being among neighbors who band together, for many reasons.
Timing, that was for Prof. Mandelbrot, TBP sticks in the comments in sequence.
Remember the French resistance was only about 3.5% of the population and they did a reasonable job against the Germans.
gman,
“you are only really defeated when you think you can never win.”
I stand by that simple statement. That is not emotional…I’ll agree, “Piss and shit on TLPTB…come and get some spawn of hell.” is…but to me you often seem to take the gold is useless, Mad Max is coming, we will all be slaughtered by technology in our front yards…all is lost view…could be…but I don’t think it is going to be that one sided by any means at all.
I consider myself not only realistic but also a student of history, and especially of military history. That is one of the reasons I believe the outcome of what is coming is nowhere near pre-determined.
On the other side of the coin, I was in over 30 fire fights as a Grunt before I was 20, and I just turned 70. I can still do the recon shuffle up and back down my farm road, with a MIA with a night scope and bipods, at port arms…with hidden fighting positions all along both sides. Just got me some body armor and will try it soon wearing it…to get use to it.
Let me say it one more time.
“Piss and shit on TLPTB…come and get some spawn of hell.”
“emotional defiance”
Hell yea!
Gen.McAuliffe’s “emotional defiance”,
“Nuts!”
Yea some “emotional defiance” like…”Give me liberty or give me death!” seems to be out of style.
Too many today say: “Give me Free Shit or I’ll send the Cops or the National Guard or the MIC to take it!”
How about instead of just 3% 33% of U.S. rise up and say “COME AND TAKE IT?”
Mean it, form together by Gun Sanctuary Counties, and start getting ready…NOW!
The TLPTB (L for Luciferian) want a Civil War, order out of chaos and all that, obviously they are not going to stop until they start one, and if they can’t push us too far they will probably create enough mass shooting FFs to start kicking down doors at 4 am.
I think we have no choice but mass 2nd amendment ‘organization’ through exactly what the 2nd amendment says we can do and those of us (like 80 year old Sionnach Liath) form together, train, and get ready for the possible fight of your life.
Getting ready for the fight of your life, and standing boldly together armed to the teeth, MAY BE THE ONLY WAY TO AVOID IT.
“I don’t think it is going to be that one sided by any means at all.”
actually, you do. you all do. you seem to think acknowledging the other side is being defeatist – probably because you do indeed feel something of what you’re up against – so you act blind to it in order not to face up to it.
that’s how you lose.
Spot on gman. I agree with you.
If remember history correctly, the Colonials did not take on the entire British army because we had better firepower. Sam Adams said at the time – and I have to paraphrase- sometimes the principle becomes the more important consideration. Or as I read in another quote, it is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Ir is one of easiest systems to fool. A larger or hotter heat source will cover a smaller, lasers are deadly against ir and there are many different shields that will mask human thermal signatures. Plus its almost impossible to find thermal through a heavy canopy. Nothing is fool-proof, including ir. Yes, I am experienced with it. I worked with the prototype FLIR on the A-6E TRAM and the subsequent systems. I was the one that actually repaired the system at the next level.
Why have the drones not spotted all of the insurgents in Afghanistan? We are still losing people over there and we will until we finally pack up and leave.
TN,
The war is part of Operation Gladio…a 17 year drug deal run by the CIA. Gladio started in 46 and is running today. It was never fought to be won, just like Nam.
It is sickening.
Poppy Bush (former head of the CIA) was called Poppy because of the CIA milking of the poppy fields.
Little Georgie W was his and the CIA’s puppet.
911 was a FF excuse to get complete physical control of the poppy fields (among other crimes and cover up’s)…Vietnam had long dried up as a source.
War is a Racket.
…but there’s someone close nearby, and anyone who helps them will be a target. Anyone want to help?
I keep reading reading things like this. Then I remember that Eric Rudolf hid out in the Carolina Mountains for 5 years while Uncle did everything in his power to capture him.
His memoir is a good example of how low tech can render Uncle quite impotent. This happened in Uncle’s back yard not halfway around the world.
Excellent example.
Excellent example of what? Maybe he should have taken a hundred people with him into the woods to prove how well this works. Cool Hand Luke only had one person following him in his escape and how did that work out for him? I know it’s only a movie, but an excellent example too.
Hiding isn’t fighting. And he didn’t end up being the leader of the New Republic after eluding the authorities for 5yrs. So Appalachia is going to be the new DC? I don’t think so. So they have a Wall Street or anything else that they could build on. Even in 1861 they weren’t building any industry.
Anyone that has already been marked as a domestic terrorist will be the governments first targets. Especially near the cities. The rest of genocide will be carried out by the organized gangs or lone gorillas. Yes I spelled that right. Then after the hard work is done by the useful idiots, the useful idiots will be dispensed of. Wash, rinse, repeat.
Eric Rudolph was a domestic terrorist and while sympathizing with his anti-abortion views he simply broke the law. He did however successfully evade capture for many years showing the government is neither omnipotent or all-powerful.
Nobody gives a shit about Appalachia but mountain terrain is insurgent terrain.
Great Red Lists, Blue lists…..it is all BS…works the first couple of times and then at least Americans, Chechens, etc. start shooting back…..Grozny baby!
The Turner Diaries were fantasy not historical or even good future fiction.
There are many sunshine patriots never enough winter soldiers.
Eric Rudolph was used as an ongoing narrative and media campaign to indoctrinate kids for years about radical right leaning pro lifers. Used to trick kids into not taking religion or their parents seriously, only the State (schools). We was holed up in peoples houses not the mountains. Only once they got serious and went after him did those people finally have something to lose and kicked him out. He did not last a few weeks in the rough mountains and got busted eating out of a dumpster. Reality people. There are few if any real Rambos out there. Seriously.
Which is, of course, one of the hallmarks of insurgency the ability to blend in and be supported by the population. The Counter-Insurgent can either raise the costs of supporting insurgency (Russians kill everybody in Chechnya or Afgh) or the Government wins the “hearts and minds” and there is no longer a reason to support the insurgency….
Rudolph was never a political figure, just a fanatic on a team of one but as you point out he had a lot of support.
It should be pretty easy to extrapolate his success to a larger scale when the population is actually motivated by government tyranny etc.
His writing I linked to above makes clear he had almost zero support. Only one person and they offered 48hr until they notified the authorities. The book talks little about the bombings or his motivations and instead focuses on eluding the army of FBI, National Guard, and freelancers looking for him.
With support, a domestic terrorist or small group could fade in and out of the populace and not spend winters in the mountains. That is why the cartels in Mexico will never be defeated by military means. Which brown person is the enemy? They have the support of the locals because they provide a functioning government.
Support was claimed as one, but given the timeline and the area Rudolph roamed around in, I strongly suspect there were multiple supporters. Remember people and especially governments are trying to tell you “a story” or a narrative not “the story” a recitation of the facts.
A poncho or similar cover made from a space blanket renders IR useless. I learned this about ten years ago when some college students got lost in the Appalachians. Choppers with IR scoured the area for days and found nothing. They were ultimately found and it was learned that the students had all been wrapped up in space blankets. I’m sure this was a big disappointment to the Gestapo for that info to get out.
Guess the color, again. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7744311/Tennessee-police-4-teens-escape-juvenile-detention-center.html
Answer to your query: Negroes, feral.
This is what the story should be for any murderer trying to escape:
Q: how many squares contain an FBI or ATF informant?
A: when involved with any clandestine orgaization just work off the assumption you will be infiltrated. and don’t assume the guy who brought you into the group, or even the leader, can’t be that informant. also be aware there are likely multiple informants who are unaware of each other’s presense.
“Since 2009, paid FBI informants have played a central role in nearly 50% of all domestic terrorism cases.”
Most of north Idaho is about the same. Except the native guerrillas are packing a .270 win with a nylon sling, if it even has one, with maybe 10-20 rounds and are decked out in leather logger boots, cotton thermals and Cabella’s camo. My guess is the bulk of them will be thinned out quickly as they appear to be unable to think and work effectively in a team environment. The non natives-who will actually be the ones to defend the state in the event of wrol-are the ones with tactical knowledge and skills and appropriate equipment. Blew my mind what I learned when I got here as I expected a little different, seeing how it is north Idaho. Ten years later it still blows my mind. Not that I’m bitter about it. No, not at all.
“they appear to be unable to think and work effectively in a team environment”
always the right’s biggest failure – too many loners.
And who wants to control the Appalachians and why?
Anyone have an opinion on the value of owning night vision monoculars and bullet proof vests/body armor? I’ve been thinking about whether or not to purchase those kind of items but I’m not sure if they’re worth the money, and even if they are, what particular specs/brands would be recommended?
I recently got a thermal vision scope but I’ll be damned if I didn’t have a boating accident again and that sucker sunk to the bottom of the 800 ft local lake. Damn…
MTD,
Body Armor:
http://www.defensearmortech.com
I bought one hard and one soft. The woman that owns the company was great, met her at a gun show, and tried everything on, good fits. Got decent discounts at the gun show…we ‘bargained’.
Call her and ask questions she was a great lady to deal with, super knowledgeable on her products.
Check out the ‘Shield’ video, thinking about one of them as well. I have never seen that before, intriguing.
If you’re not prepared to fight at night you are not prepared to fight. I have two night vision monoculars and a night vision sight on my MIA. Thinking of putting another one on my Mini 14.
Hopes this helps.
Thanks for the info. I’ll definitely give those suggestions a look.
I have a small inexpensive pocket monocular, it’s in my barn right now, effective, low dollar, check back here after dark I’ll retrieve it and post it.
Very handy dandy, and could come in extremely handy outside your home at night. I need to get two more.
One is none…three you’re done.
MTD,
This is the inexpensive pocket night vision monocular I was talking about. Have another, more expensive larger stronger one, but this is the handy dandy one I was referencing.
I live rural and can sweep the woods around my home with it effectively.
My 8 year old grandson loves it!
Would make a cool Christmas present for the right person.
They will send drones in. The pea shooters have no chance for a fight against thermal imaging drones. There is not enough tech on the civilian market to counter the drone threat. This will be played out in a civil manner or its a lose lose situation.
just a thought, might those emergency fire shelters used by backcountry firefighters conceal enough of the heat signature to impede FLIR technology?
Now paint it green. Not that I’ve tried…. just an idea.
Francis…I like the way you think.
MarshRabbit- interesting thought!
They will send in the drones…
Well Professor…I guess the divorce between some of us…and the Luciferian Government is not going to be ahhhhhh…amicable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWshC8PaL1o