Impure Thoughts

Guest Post by Jim Kunstler

What if the Corona virus turns out to be a genuine pandemic with legs, not some punk-ass, flash-in-the-pan bug like SARS… and infects hundreds of millions around the world…? And what if it happens to go logarithmic in the USA, as in China now…? And what if takes a few months, or half a year, to do that…? And what if Americans will not get on airplanes when that happens…? Or gather together in large numbers…? Or if government imposes quarantines …? Will the parties hold their nominating conventions? Might the November election have to be postponed?

Just sayin’… since nobody else seems to be talking about it. A few months ago, nobody was thinking about a disease that would virtually lock-down China’s economy, either… and now here we are. Speaking of which, that lock-down of China’s economy is already generating serious damage to global GDP, after only a few weeks. But nothing shows our detachment from reality like the recent surge in financial market indexes while the Chinese economy was busy shutting down. In particular, one must wonder: What supports the global daisy-chain of debt obligations while all this is going on.

After all, companies doing business need a revenue stream to service their revolving debts. They have to make stuff, and move stuff, and get paid for it. What happens when there is no revenue stream? The workings of this hyper-complex financial system depend utterly on the velocity of these revenue streams. They can’t just… stop! Everybody who follows these things understands that China’s banking system is 1) a hot mess of confabulated public and private lending relationships, 2) completely opaque as regards the true workings of its operations, and 3) shot through with fraud, swindling, and Ponzis. Did China’s ruling party just put its banking system in an induced coma while Corona virus plays out? How can that possibly not affect the rest of global finance, which is plenty janky, too?

The USA gets everything from car parts to pharmaceuticals from China. How long will it take for the manufacturing lock-down to show up in American daily life? What if it continues for some months going forward? You can easily draw your own conclusions.

Here’s another interesting angle on that: Corona virus might give President Donald Trump an easy out from being the bag-holder for a stock market crash and banking train wreck. The signal weakness of Mr. Trump’s term-in-office was his taking ownership of a magical mystery stock market that climbs ever-higher day after day, defying all known rules of physics as applied to money. This longest “expansion” in US history (if that’s what it was, and I’m not so sure about it) seems to have hit a speed bump last September when something broke in the short-term “re-po” lending markets, at which time (and ever since), Jay Powell’s Federal Reserve began jamming hundreds of billions of dollars into them to smash down zooming interest rates and prevent a heart attack in the system. That creation of “liquidity” — money from thin air — appears to have stabilized the situation. But then, it is a peculiar feature of our times that a lot of things have an appearance that doesn’t sync with reality.

In short, if Corona virus and its side-effects do substantially knock down the stock markets, Mr. Trump gets off scott-free on the one thing that has been really propping him up. Not only can he blame a looming market calamity on this black swan pandemic, he can then turn around and play the Franklin Roosevelt role in attempting to rescue the nation from a depression. And then, if the election has to be postponed, we will see a for-sure discontinuity in US political history, consequences as yet unknown.

Meanwhile, schemes continue a’pace to overthrow Mr. Trump by hook-or-by-crook before the election, with Sedition Release 4.0 just breaking in the Roger Stone sentencing affair and four prosecutors (three of them Mueller alumni, imagine that!) staging a phony-baloney resignation huff to stir up useful idiots like Rep. Eric Swalwell on the House Intel Committee for the next go at impeachment. Understand, this wicked business is just another ploy engineered by the same combined Deep State / Lawfare scoundrels that ran RussiaGate, MuellerGate, and UkraineGate, and the real purpose of it is to stave off efforts to prosecute a pretty broad network of those same former and current officials in the FBI, DOJ, CIA, State Department, Pentagon, Obama White House, and the Clinton Foundation for seditious conspiracy and, yes, possibly even treason. Personally, I believe that the Attorney General is honestly trying to smoke out the truth in this morass of nefarious intrigues, and that neither attempts to block him by the perps and their allies, or a visitation of Corona virus across the land, will thwart him.

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gman
gman
February 14, 2020 12:00 pm

“What if ….?”

you know doom porn has fallen on hard times when people have to resort to fantasy to get their doom porn fix.

“Might the November election have to be postponed?”

suits me. since neither side will accept a contrary result this november that might be a better option anyway.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  gman
February 14, 2020 12:10 pm

What’s your definition of fantasy? One man’s fantasy is another man’s narrative. The best doom porn ever was written 2k years ago. Muhahha.

gman
gman
  'Reality' Doug
February 14, 2020 1:37 pm

“What’s your definition of fantasy?”

what is desired in disregard of facts.

Wuhan Wang (EC)
Wuhan Wang (EC)
  gman
February 14, 2020 12:12 pm

gman, have you ever heard the proposition that the deep state actually announces their plan ahead of time? We heard back then that Trump would be the last president. How can they accomplish that, it sounds so far fetched. Yet here we are with a pandemic that could be used to impose martial law and suspend any election indefinitely or until the economic (banking) crisis is resolved – around the 12th of never.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Wuhan Wang (EC)
February 14, 2020 12:33 pm

Convenient, isn’t it, EC? You know Trump keeps tweeting that he’s going to be President forever. I don’t have a twatter account or I would go find them. Yeah, his base keeps saying he’s trolling. Maybe it’s twofold. Troll the Democrats, and tell us what he really wants to do while making everyone think he’s just trolling.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Mary Christine
February 14, 2020 4:21 pm

Well, ol’ Barr just gave McCabe a clean bill of health so forget Barr as anything other than another in a long list of deep staters.

gman
gman
  Wuhan Wang (EC)
February 14, 2020 12:35 pm

“We heard back then that Trump would be the last president”

(shrug) I was saying that years ago. I still say it. neither side is going to accept the outcome of the 2020 elections. in fact the right would not have accepted hillary in 2016, while the left was too shocked and disoriented to effectively resist trump in 2016 which is the only reason trump has bought us some time. but everyone’s lined up for 2020, and I think that will be the break point.

“How can they accomplish that, it sounds so far fetched”

like speaker gingrich said, a nation’s culture is never more than one generation deep.

Wuhan Wang (EC)
Wuhan Wang (EC)
  gman
February 14, 2020 12:47 pm

That generation providing most of the depth is the boomer generation. While there are more millenials, they are spread thin. They know little about history beyond the fact the market has always gone up and Bill Clinton was the first black president. Oh, and slavery which only ended recently in 1968 when MLK led the freedom movement and later declared – free at last, free at last…

gman
gman
  Wuhan Wang (EC)
February 14, 2020 1:40 pm

“generation providing most of the depth is the boomer generation”

which is being drained by age and by a hezekiah attitude of “peace in my time”.

“millennials … know little about history”

more devastatingly they’ve been taught not to care.

Mushroom Cloud
Mushroom Cloud
  Wuhan Wang (EC)
February 14, 2020 11:04 pm

Yawn. Another poke at “ignorant” millennials, most likely from someone who hid under their school desk to save them from Big Bad Ivan’s nukes. Maybe millennials don’t follow YOUR version of history because it’s so ridiculously obvious to anyone without their head crammed up their own ass that the overwhelming majority of major events in the last century (likely much longer) have been false, phony, or significantly altered. Just because you “watched the moon landing on your black and white family TV” doesn’t make that concrete proof that it happened ya know? ???

1/20 is the new 9/11 (EC)
1/20 is the new 9/11 (EC)
  Mushroom Cloud
February 15, 2020 1:08 am

Hey asshole, we didn’t have a tv but my old man came home from the bar that night and he gave me a summary of the commentary by scientific minded thinkers there. He said they concluded if there was little to no gravity on the moon, the flag should have floated away. At any rate, he was of the opinion that it was faked. We boomers cut our teeth on conspiracy theories starting with the Kennedy assassination. You millenials believe there are hundreds of genders out there. Who’s the bitch now?

Eyes Wide Shut
Eyes Wide Shut
  gman
February 14, 2020 3:09 pm

The Bible actually may predict that Trump is the last president before the Rapture of the church and arrival of the NWO Antichrist.
It predicts the Rapture occuring At the last trump and at the trump of God in the King James Bible.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Eyes Wide Shut
February 14, 2020 3:43 pm

Eyes
You’re not getting out of this early so you can watch the unwashed suffer from on high.
You’re the victim of another Jewish heresy introduced in the late 1800’s. by Schofield, Darby and their American Jewish Zionist bank rollers.

When Pack Rats Attack (EC)
When Pack Rats Attack (EC)
  Fleabaggs
February 14, 2020 3:58 pm

You are referring to the rapture? Paul says the body is like a seed and it must be planted (I’m summarizing) so how does that mesh with the rapture of people who haven’t died or been buried?

Eyes Wide Shut
Eyes Wide Shut
  Fleabaggs
February 14, 2020 4:10 pm

If so the last trump could be anytime between now and January 2025.
I’d much prefer to watch the chaos from the upper deck God willing.

The Cold Backhand of God
The Cold Backhand of God
  Eyes Wide Shut
February 14, 2020 7:43 pm

Keep hoping for a lucky reprieve in the Nosebleed Seats, but plan on getting cheap, front-row admission no one wants just in case a Post-Trib scenario happens.

mark
mark
  Eyes Wide Shut
February 15, 2020 12:59 am

Eyes, My Brother…I agree on the Rapture timing with Flea and Cold,

I know from your posts you have a great and tender heart for God.

Check this out, start it at 3 minutes & 12 seconds.

I estimate the snatch will be sometime during the 6th Seal…the 7th Seal is the Wrath of God.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfFywSDJd_I

The Cold Backhand of God
The Cold Backhand of God
  Fleabaggs
February 14, 2020 7:38 pm

Quite likely EWS may be trapped in a temporal hell, wishing for a deliverance after the fact. The only ones getting away easily when the Time comes will be the dead.
The Muslims will get their Mahdi and the Pharisee Jews will get the Messiah they deserve, but denied. The Luciferians may be likewise disappointed, finding out their god is an equal opportunity trickster offering manacles as a reward.

Brian Reilly
Brian Reilly
  gman
February 14, 2020 3:23 pm

gman, You write that “in fact the right would not have accepted hillary in 2016…”. What do you mean? What “right”? You think that Ryan and McConnell would have ginned up impeachment? They would have needed the help of the FBI, DoJ, NSA for that, and it would never have been provided. Nope, the political Right (really just Deep State scoundrels indistinguishable from the Dems, at the end of the day) would not have done shit about an HRC administration. Oh bitched and moaned sure, but not actually DONE anything.

If Mr. Trump (whom I find to be a clown, and far superior to all the other clowns, but not a serious man) wins in 2020, he will be sworn in to another term on 20 January 2021 just as will a Dem if they win. The sun will rise, the Senators will bugger pages, and the FBI will roust the unloved, the NSA will record it all. There will be a lot of bitching and moaning either way, but no one is going to come into DC at the head of a column of troops. That is what “not recognizing the government” really means.

When Pack Rats Attack (EC)
When Pack Rats Attack (EC)
  Brian Reilly
February 14, 2020 4:10 pm

“If Mr. Trump (whom I find to be a clown, and far superior to all the other clowns, but not a serious man) ..”

Heresy! I demand you be whipped for an hour or two within an inch of your life with a wet noodle!

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  When Pack Rats Attack (EC)
February 14, 2020 6:40 pm

For many of us, we are already within an inch.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Brian Reilly
February 14, 2020 6:39 pm

Well said. Eventually the column of troops will come. Just not any time soon. Politically speaker, there is no right. Cuck men are irrelevant. I am irrelevant.

Hyperborean
Hyperborean
February 14, 2020 12:02 pm

Here’s my contrarian theory –

The entire AGW push and de-carbonization nonsense is not about preventing global warming from accelerating, it is about removing CO2 from the atmosphere to accelerate global cooling.

Why would TPTB want to do that? Because AGW is a global depopulation tool wrapped in a pseudo-environmental religion timed to coincide with the coming Mini Ice Age. The release of the Corona virus is timed as well to crash the global supply chain (of food) at its point of maximum interdependence and together with declining agricultural production, initiate mass starvation and cull the earth of its useless eaters. The coming mandatory vaccinations will also include compounds that sterilize the inoculated, ensuring population declines in areas that are still food self sufficient. Wars will mop up the young, fit males that could be organized into resistance, and global government by central banks will gain supremacy by using credit required to buy food with digital money as its primary weapon. Thus the End of History descends upon man, and the new age of the Philosopher Kings is born.

And remember, it’s only conspiracy theory until its is obvious it is conspiracy fact.

James
James
  Hyperborean
February 14, 2020 2:23 pm

Dammit Hyper,now I have to get even more cases,this is starting to get silly(till it’s not).

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Hyperborean
February 14, 2020 6:44 pm

CO2 is the byproduct of burning fuel for energy. It is a ubiquitous marker of basic power. It is an exceptional marker of blanket coverage over our lives. It’s not complicated. It’s relative power.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
February 14, 2020 12:46 pm

Kunstler is just repeating things he read right here for the last 3 years.

James
James
February 14, 2020 12:53 pm

Fine,will buy a few more cases of canned goods and a few cases (more)of food for tools of freedom.

Brian Reilly
Brian Reilly
February 14, 2020 3:13 pm

Money quote: “Personally, I believe that the Attorney General is honestly trying to smoke out the truth in this morass of nefarious intrigues, and that neither attempts to block him by the perps and their allies, or a visitation of Corona virus across the land, will thwart him.” Ha ha ha ha ha. No serious and cognizant observer of Mr. Barr (or Sessions, or Ms. Whtshername, or Mr. Holder, etc, etc) could possibly believe that there has been an AG that is not primarily in charge of protecting the deep state types by any means necessary. Mr. Barr has no intention of investigating or prosecuting any of this seditious activity. If you are in the Club, you are safe. Safe under Obama, safe under Trump. The worse you do, the safer you are. Remember this is the Barr that found Epstein killed himself.

What have they done to the Jim Kunstler we used to know and love?? This new one is just another trash talker. Somebody must have gotten to him. I hope it was a bribe rather than a threat. Sad.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Brian Reilly
February 14, 2020 3:47 pm

Rielly.
Right. Barr was born in the swamp and goes way way back.

overthecliff
overthecliff
  Fleabaggs
February 14, 2020 6:06 pm

He’s a Bushie.

mark
mark
  overthecliff
February 15, 2020 1:04 am

He was and remains the Bush family consigliere in the truce little Georgie W sought.

Jaz
Jaz
February 14, 2020 5:38 pm

What does the Jewish cabal want ?

gman
gman
  Jaz
February 14, 2020 6:11 pm

everything. “us. just us. only us.” “the silver is mine and the gold is mine.” “the nation that will not serve you shall be destroyed.”

gman
gman
February 14, 2020 6:21 pm

http://www.chinafile.com/reporting-opinion/viewpoint/viral-alarm-when-fury-overcomes-fear

“It is a system that turns every natural disaster into an even greater man-made catastrophe.”

Steve
Steve
February 14, 2020 7:43 pm

It’s a small comment among the big thoughts presented by others here but think about this for a minute.
Eric Swalwell is on the Intelligence Committee. The guy who wants to use nukes on those who prefer to keep their ARs. Intelligence committee, Friggin hilarious…

Gotta know
Gotta know
February 15, 2020 1:41 pm

Good news is – politics are stable in our country.
Bad news is – deaths from a new virus will be ignored.