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Saxons Wrath
Saxons Wrath
  Administrator
March 20, 2020 4:19 pm

These are JLTV’s, Joint Level Tactical Vehicles, the military’s replacement for the HUMV.

They are basically Tactical 4X4 Pick-up’s, with more emphasis on protecting the troops inside than previous types of vehicles.

Not much to get excited about, as someone already says, these are brand new from the factory, so our tax dollars at work.

The real issue is how much do the damn things cost? With what kinds of up-armor and other packages that cost extra?

That is something to get fired up about.

Ginger
Ginger
  Saxons Wrath
March 20, 2020 5:54 pm

If the occupants jump out wearing sweat suits and white new balance tennis shoes, a hooting and a hollaring something about allahu akbar, now that is the time to worry.
Of course there is the opportunity of upgrading one’s weapons as time goes on. Remember: Don’t let a crisis go to waste.

Eyes Wide Shut
Eyes Wide Shut
  Administrator
March 20, 2020 8:10 pm

At least there wasn’t any Tanks.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Administrator
March 20, 2020 12:42 pm

have you actually read the bill in question???

the EFF page doesn’t even include a link, because they just want to scaremonger you.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Anonymous
March 20, 2020 3:01 pm

What does what the bill literally says have to do with what it actually means? It is superficial permission to extend control. Nothing else matters after 50 years of this deception. You think we don’t catch on? The article says the word encryption is not used, but we can read between the lines. I think the EFF has done more for me than you have or Congress, who does things against me, troll.

Anymouse
Anymouse
  Administrator
March 20, 2020 2:17 pm

those are brand new, shipment from a factory. When they deploy, they do not use trains, they actually drive those things into your town. and that will not be happening,
except in the following locations:
Detroit
Baltimore
Chicago
New Orleans
plus any other shit hole town that goes native after a few days “no business” on street corners.

Dirtperson Steve
Dirtperson Steve
  Administrator
March 20, 2020 6:08 pm

I was watching a show about quantum computing because with no sportsball all there is to watch is KungFlu and educational shows. Per the documentary, quantum computing is so fast that it will be able to break any encryption almost instantly. The ChiComs have a quantum computing center opening in 202 that they spent $20B to create.

(EC)
(EC)
  Dirtperson Steve
March 20, 2020 6:41 pm

202, does that come after the year 201?

Dirtperson Steve
Dirtperson Steve
  (EC)
March 20, 2020 6:54 pm

Lol, 2020.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Dirtperson Steve
March 20, 2020 7:31 pm

Read about elliptic curve encryption.

MTD
MTD
March 20, 2020 9:41 am

Anyone already seeing signs saying “no cash accepted” at stores in their area? I noticed a few of those at convenience stores this morning. No doubt a lot more of that is coming real soon.

Hank
Hank
  MTD
March 20, 2020 11:02 am

answer to that is simple. No sale. I would think retailers at this point would accept livestock in exchange for a sale

(EC)
(EC)
  Hank
March 20, 2020 6:42 pm

Hmm. No cash.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
March 20, 2020 9:41 am

Who on this platform is in agreement with gov’t reaction to this manufactured panic? Who agrees that gov’t has the right to effectively terminate the economy on their say so?

Then I ask all of you why many of you insist that gov’t is necessary when they have no special knowledge concerning any topic and make decisions to enhance their prestige and wealth. They surround themselves with yes men and faux experts. No one KNOWS what should be done in this situation, so why are we allowing some asshat to dictate to us?

Without some gov’t ogre demanding this or that, individuals would decide how to react to events. There would be no one size fits all fatwa emanating from on high as on high wouldn’t exist.

It is the gov’t that makes decisions that we as individuals should be making. If they make the wrong call, it’s a 100% wrong call. If we each make our own decision, then we are using the intelligence (or lack there of) of millions of people to assess the situation appropriate to their situation, not some clown ensconced in a secure facility surrounded by guards and hasn’t been in the real world probably in decades.

Reassess you commitment to the bogus concept of a centralized gov’t. It is a giant fraud if you allow your mind to honestly examine its actions.

brewer55
brewer55
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 20, 2020 9:45 am

I’ve got a serious question for you. Do you believe in no government?

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  brewer55
March 20, 2020 9:55 am

In the extreme, yes. In the present, not yet.

The population couldn’t handle the responsibility of being a sovereign individual. They are accustomed to being herded like sheep. The propaganda passed off as education needs to be reversed and the population needs to be given the other side of the story concerning how things could and should work where there are no masters.

I, long ago, concluded I want no ‘leader’ as they’re full of shit and have no special skill or knowledge. All they do is parasitize the population and provide absolutely no benefit that couldn’t be acquired without them.

Gov’t is responsible for all the criminal activity past the first offense as without gov’t, the perp wouldn’t get the chance at a second offense. Gov’t is responsible for all the wars and senseless killings because without them their terrible weaponry wouldn’t exist and any conflicts between people would be resolved at a much lower level.

I could go on, but others have blazed that trail already. Try listening to Larken Rose, for example.

brewer55
brewer55
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 20, 2020 10:05 am

Leaders are a natural output of society. In any given situation, whether it be your local club, a military, or on a grander scale, a country, people want someone to look to for guidance and making decisions. Good, bad or otherwise, the majority of the people are not willing or want to make decisions that affect groups of people. No large, or even relatively small, organizations of people could exist without leadership. However, I am of the same belief as what our founders envisioned. Small government, both at the local level and the federal level. Sized big enough to handle public utilities, law enforcement, etc. At the federal level, large enough to protect our borders from invasion. I will not get into all the details but, I think you get my drift. Anarchy with no central leadership at all does not work, IMHO. There is a segment of any population that is, to put it plainly, evil, and would use the opportunity to take control or at minimum, take advantage of a situation of anarchy.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  brewer55
March 20, 2020 10:11 am

If itsy bitsy gov’t were available for testing and it yielded reasonable results, I might be convinced to allow it in my thinking. Till then, all evidence says that gov’t is the worst thing that man has ever invented behind religion and god at the apex of stupidity.

There is a segment of any population that is, to put it plainly, evil, and would use the opportunity to take control or at minimum, take advantage of a situation of anarchy and it is called gov’t.

Government – ideas so good they have to be mandatory and enforced by threat of violence.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  brewer55
March 20, 2020 10:54 am

“Leaders”

Today there are only sociopaths.

Rise Up
Rise Up
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 20, 2020 11:40 am

Ah Larken Rose…what a blast from the past. Met him a couple of times during the “Tax Freedom” movement led by Robert Schulz. What a mistake to get involved in that! How many years did Larken serve in prison?

To your topic, the USa needed a total reset, but not in this way. Maybe we’ll get it, and rid ourselves of the Fed (which really should be the first order of business).

In the meantime, SOA, perhaps you should self-quarantine in a mountain cabin for a few years, given your paranoia.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  Rise Up
March 20, 2020 11:47 am

Thank you for your concern, but as I live on an island in the Caribbean with no mountains to speak of, I can’t comply.

What you call paranoia is simply being honest about what reality presents to anyone willing to not delude themselves.

Lots of people have been incarcerated for telling the truth. Have you heard of a fellow named Julian Assange or Bradley Manning, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn?

Pretty shallow thinking on your part.

StackingStock
StackingStock
  Rise Up
March 20, 2020 2:59 pm

How many years did Larken serve in prison? For a crime he didn’t commit and the judge wouldn’t allow evidence to be heard.

Rise Up, he’s the way he is now because that BS they did to him. Maybe you should keep sucking Gov.scum.cock.

Donkey
Donkey
  brewer55
March 20, 2020 9:56 am

Brewer, all government eventually goes rogue against the sheep. If we KNOW that to be true, what should we do?

brewer55
brewer55
  Donkey
March 20, 2020 10:09 am

I don’t disagree with what you said. It would require all of us, the “sheep dogs” and the “sheeple” to keep them in line. Unfortunately, for the same reason that leadership is needed, many will abdicate their responsibility with keeping the established government answerable to the people. This was done in small measure for the last 150+ years and look at what we have now.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  brewer55
March 20, 2020 10:23 am

Leadership can be a useful tool on occasion. Leadership that emanates from the barrel of a gun isn’t leadership, it is the definition of lawlessness.

A true leader can convince people that he has the right idea and they will listen to him and his suggestions. A fake leader surrounds himself with a security detail and barks orders where people have no choice but to follow those orders or suffer consequences.

I have no problem with voluntary leadership and am a proponent of testing options. With gov’t, all testing is impossible because they don’t want your or my peon opinion. They will do what’s best for themselves and don’t give a shit about you or me. This has been proven so often that I can’t understand why people don’t see the blatant evil that compulsory gov’t represents.

Donkey
Donkey
  brewer55
March 20, 2020 11:03 am

The tree of liberty is parched.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 20, 2020 11:08 am
Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  Mygirl...maybe
March 20, 2020 11:18 am

Pray tell, what message am I supposed to glean from this video of sick people being treated in a hospital. I already know what hospitals do. I expect to see ill people being treated.

I especially like the part at 3:35 where one person not wearing a mask or goggles is talking to another dressed up in a space suit. I guess the virus can’t jump from the contaminated suit on to the guys exposed body.

The virus is real enough. It’s the reaction to it that is insane, fostered by cranks in gov’t and the media to enhance their standing as ‘leaders’ when they truly don’t know their ass from a hole in the ground.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 20, 2020 11:59 am

Ah Yes, it is real, but somehow not real. It’s happening in Italy so of course it isn’t real and won’t happen here because it’s fake or a government take over or some other shit. You didn’t grasp the import of what was happening in that hospital because essentially, you aren’t capable of thinking beyond your biases.

As to guy in hazmat, they are in a corridor and it takes quite a bit to undo hazmat. The reporter has better gear than most everyone in that hospital. The virus doesn’t leap BTW.

You are the kind of person who wouldn’t believe anything because everything is one big conspiracy and unless your face is rubbed in it you wouldn’t acknowledge it because your confirmation bias is off the charts. Endeavoring to get you to see beyond your entrenched belief system is impossible and a waste of time. Keep posting the same shit over and over and over….that’ll fix it and make it go away….

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  Mygirl...maybe
March 20, 2020 12:16 pm

Please help me get past my biases. Please explain to me the import of what was happening beyond what always happens in a hospital.

And you KNOW that the virus can’t do this or that precisely how? Because you have faith in what someone else says? If all these medical people are wearing masks and gowns, how come they are getting infected? Doesn’t the virus know that it’s not allowed past those bogus protective measures where the distance between molecules looks like the Grand Canyon to the virus?

You trying to put words in my mouth doesn’t bolster your case. Quite to the contrary, it shows that your mind is so made up you can fantasize what no one said while simultaneously dismissing an actual statement. Your second sentence is complete bullshit.

If you’d stop trying to psychoanalyze me, you might get down to provable facts of which you have almost none. You are a hysterical woman.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 20, 2020 1:12 pm

You are an idiot living in denial.

“Please explain to me the import of what was happening beyond what always happens in a hospital.”

What always happens in a hospital?
Where?
I’ve NEVER seen anything like that in any hospital, ever. That wasn’t an emergency room or ICU, those were already filled. That was a ward that had been converted to contain the overflow.
You obviously didn’t watch the video or you wouldn’t make such a stupid statement.

Did you miss the people being treated in hallways ?

Did you miss how many medical workers have been infected and have died or is that an inconvenient truth that upsets your narrative?

Are you secure in your island? From your perch you pontificate, is your perch free of virus?

There isn’t much to psychoanalyze with you, your repertoire is built on a small loop.

brewer55
brewer55
  Mygirl...maybe
March 20, 2020 1:50 pm

You already said it in your previous response to this guy. He is obsessed with his view and nothing you, nor I, will change it. (I’ve already gone round and round with him). The best we can do is at first try to appeal with common sense and facts, to the degree that we can. When the response is just more angry babble on everything is a conspiracy, it’s time to let it go.

It’s a shame because I believe Solutions are Obvious seems like an intelligent person and he writes well — he is just jaded beyond measure and like the progressive/liberal left, there is no reasoning with him/her.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  brewer55
March 20, 2020 2:04 pm

Brewer: There is denial because of fear; it is too terrible to contemplate so it can’t be happening, then there is denial because one believes they have a superior mind and finally there is denial because one has been told about the wolf one too many times.
No matter, while the keyboarding continues, the situation becomes a tad more dire. Seems the Italians added another six hundred to the dead toll and now hospital in London has run out of beds.
This is what the government is scared of, the system being overwhelmed and unable to take care of the masses.
Epidemics follow a progression, first small pockets, sporadic infections and then, seemingly all at once, there is a massive surge of infected and those infected overwhelm hospitals and the community at large.
The CDC screwed the pooch BIG TIME here. They were too busy being diverse while stating that gun violence and obesity were issues instead of doing what they were supposed to do which is to prevent epidemics from happening.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  brewer55
March 20, 2020 2:05 pm

While I generally find the manner in which SAO presents his case as unpalatable, I don’t see where he’s wrong here, in the abstract. I keep coming back around to the same belief set.

If you’re an atheist, why worry so much? In the end, we’re all shadows and dust and it behooves us to live our lives.

If you’re a Believer, why worry so much? In the end, He will take care of you and yours according to His will, and it behooves us to live outside of blindfolded fear.

To argue that we should force historic unemployment, foreclosure, and potential starvation on the poor and working class is going to result in millions more deaths than any virus would levy. Likely starting with the individuals who put them out of work, out of their homes, and out of foodstuffs.

Pretty difficult to argue with this line of reasoning unless one’s emotions rule the day. And what a miserable existence that is, with or without a virus. Otherwise, give me hard and fast data in the form of a database, spreadsheets, medical records, etc. I believe the least the fearmongers could do is to jerk me off before I get bent over.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Articles of Confederation
March 20, 2020 2:21 pm

Well, how conversant are you with epidemiology and the science of pandemics? What does an epidemiologist do?

“Discover the causes of diseases in order to advance prevention, treatment, and control.

Determine the burden or amount of different diseases in a community, state, or larger population.
Study the natural history and prognosis of disease.
Evaluate and compare treatment and prevention efforts to identify which are the safest and most effective.
Provide evidence to policy makers and regulators about how aspects of the environment, technology, clinical medical practices, or social processes affect population health.”

Now, what are epidemiologists saying about this virus?

What does an unchecked epidemic do? Why it puts people out of work and houses and so on while costing upwards of billions if not trillions of dollars. It also shuts down schools and businesses and pretty much grinds things to a halt.

Is this virus going to do that? It did in China. Remember China? Remember what happened in China?
Is this virus going to shut down countries? It has in Italy, Iran and China.
Is this virus going to cost billions? Yup.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Mygirl...maybe
March 20, 2020 2:23 pm

I consider myself to be able to grasp very complex subjects. I want all of the data and I will do the xref myself. It’s a small ask given the alternative.

I’m not afraid. I trust God, and I trust my cognitive abilities. Put it all out there in the public domain so We the People can sift through it.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Articles of Confederation
March 20, 2020 3:34 pm

Most of it is already in the public domain, you have to dig though. Look for medical publications like Lancet and papers from the NIH. Also, there are foreign studies from Japan and India to examine.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Mygirl...maybe
March 20, 2020 4:28 pm

I haven’t seen anything in the public domain other than speculation, conspiracy theories, FUD, and academic studies.

Pequiste
Pequiste
  Mygirl...maybe
March 20, 2020 5:32 pm

CoVid-19 will cost the world, in fact, tens of trillions.

And Epstein didn’t kill himself.

Dirtperson Steve
Dirtperson Steve
  Mygirl...maybe
March 20, 2020 6:20 pm

From easily located statistics but if you want I can source them again… 6 of every 7 people with this affliction show symptoms so minor they ignore them or think they have a cold or minor flu. They don’t show up in the total cases number.

Using the grossly exaggerated number of 3.4% death rate, applied to the remaining 1 in 7 that will have a significant illness, .48% will die. Lets round it up to .5% that means 5 out of every 1000 that get the illness will die.

Or, we are wrecking the world to quarantine 99.5% of the population to save .5%. The mean age of death in Italy is 81 years. Even without this their remaining years are measured in months.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Dirtperson Steve
March 20, 2020 9:07 pm

We already know they want to depopulate the globe. So clearly they won’t pull out all the stops to save folks on palliative care.

Ergo, we need to peel the onion.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Articles of Confederation
March 20, 2020 5:03 pm

A Christian that can separate style from substance. I just saw a unicorn. The bottom line is we can’t be sure of information about happenings afar. A few alterations of facts and the conclusion is completely different. There are those that want government safety and those that want individual freedom. We are foreigners to each other. I want secession. I share power, you take it. I order, you disorder. Done with that shit. One thing is fur shur: the government cure will be worse than the disease. The disease is not a systemic threat. The captain will accepts a few dead crew members or passengers to keep the ship and a crew functional. Low life wants daddy government, on abortion, on marriage, on imperial defense, always something. There’s only one way to settle this. The colorful array of incompatibilities will be a long war of many twists and turns. Carry on.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  Mygirl...maybe
March 20, 2020 2:02 pm

What monumental significance do you place on where a person gets treated? Is the hallway leading to rooms that much different from a medical perspective than the room itself? Aren’t they just a few feet from one another? Aren’t they both in the same air environment? Don’t they both get treated by the same medical staff?

During an airline crash, massive fire with burn victims or any event that presents an overflow crowd of people needing assistance, hallways are always used as their preferable to treating in the parking lot even with a tent. What the hell is your point?

Obviously, I did watch the video or else I wouldn’t have commented about the two people with and without a space suit. You better start paying attention and start using logic if you possess any such skill.

No, I didn’t miss how many medical workers have been infected and commented on it in our last exchange. Consider a course in reading comprehension.

Now it’s your turn to explain how them being dressed in protective gear is failing. Go ahead, I’d really like to hear your explanation.

I have no narrative, just cold observations devoid of fear mongering and hysterical reaction. I want proof, not conjecture or outright bullshit even if provided by someone in a particular profession when what they are saying is known to me to be false. The laws of physics are not repealed under any and all circumstances.

You may call my writing pontification if you like, as it’s certainly of a higher caliber than your drivel. As to the virus being on the island, I really don’t care if it is or isn’t at the moment as it will in all likelihood show up sooner or later.

If there isn’t that much to psychoanalyze, then why do you insist on doing it?

Please answer my questions with the seriousness with which I’ve approached answering yours, and if at all possible using logic and reason as opposed to propaganda hearsay.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 20, 2020 3:21 pm

1.People dressing in protective gear have to take that gear off at some time. Removal of said gear presents challenges when attempting to avoid infection and many are infected while taking said gear off.
2. People involved in accidents such as plane crashes aren’t carrying a highly infectious disease so disease mitigation protocol is not an issue.
3. There are isolation areas in hospitals where strict anti-infection protocols are created and maintained. Then there are those areas where such protocols aren’t deemed necessary, maybe because there aren’t any infected people in the vicinity?
4. The virus causes pneumonia, pneumonia can result in ARDS, it requires ventilators, oxygen, oxygen panels, , often intubation, along with all the IV’s and other assorted equipment. Equipment not found in hallways.
You were the one who brought up psychoanalysis.
I could go on but to what purpose?

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  Mygirl...maybe
March 20, 2020 4:13 pm

As for your #1, that simply proves that the protective gear is insufficient for the task. Something I’ve said all along.

Your other points could all have been handled in an efficacious manner if TPTsB build shipping container hospitals the way the Chinese did when they saw the Chinese start building them. You were championing tents with positive internal pressure which is required to not collapse the walls of rudimentary tents and that would blow virus laden air into the public space. Remember?

No one is denying the virus is an issue. It is the immense overreaction to it that is going to produce more damage to more people than the virus itself.

The virus will incorrectly be blamed for the eventual failure of the US economy as it’s in the process of keeling over now strictly as a result of manufactured panic. The political class has the plausible deniability it has searched for for quite some time.

When the economy hits near bottom, violence and martial law will overshadow the virus threat.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Mygirl...maybe
March 20, 2020 1:06 pm

Girl
You’re parroting info produced by entities whose only product is gross dishonesty 24/7 and want us to be as hysterical as you.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Fleabaggs
March 20, 2020 1:36 pm

Flea
Put your money where your mouth is. You harp incessantly on the evil whatever, but you have yet to PROVE it. You can make assertions but you have no proof. Is that video fake?

The virus is the catalyst. The virus is real. The panic is real and is PRIMARILY about the ongoing market crash that has been triggered by the virus. The crash is and was caused by decades of money printing and it was all going to happen, it just happened now and the virus makes for a great cover, but, that doesn’t make the virus fake.

Therefore it is not correct to compare the level of panic to the severity of the pandemic, rather one should examine who benefits from all of this.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Mygirl...maybe
March 20, 2020 2:26 pm

Therefore it is not correct to compare the level of panic to the severity of the pandemic, rather one should examine who benefits from all of this.

And this is the part that concerns me. Cui bono? Bankers, Boomers, and Barons.

It’s easy to ask me to sacrifice when I am a healthy individual able to protect my family pretty well. I WFH 100%. Are you willing to pay my mortgage if I lose my job? I’ll certainly consider that offer. Both of us would have to give a little to get a little.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Articles of Confederation
March 20, 2020 3:45 pm

Boomers? Please, you know that’s bullshit just like blaming all the ills of the world on the ‘jews’ is bullshit.

The point is moot now. I have been in communication with a friend who works for the largest grocery chain in the area. They are taking this virus VERY seriously, they have to. Seems getting resupplied is presenting major headaches. They have asked vendors to help with bringing in the supplies from different areas.
The shelves are going empty and it will take quite awhile to get them stocked back. My friend insisted, made me promise to stay out of the store and away from people. I asked them why so adamant, well, seems the virus is spreading in the area, quelle suprise, quel dommage.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Mygirl...maybe
March 20, 2020 4:29 pm

I didn’t say all or even most Boomers, Bankers, or Barons. But it is incumbent upon Nomads to ensure Prophets don’t destroy the entire world in their ideologies. The reaction to this virus, 9/11, TARP, etc. went too far and Nomads didn’t do our jobs. It’s well past time for us to commandeer the ship before we’re dashed upon the jetty.

And no. The reason the friend insisted is because they put their faith in government and what they’ve been told. They don’t have faith in God and they don’t have faith in themselves.

I have a difficult time respecting anyone afraid of death. What a miserable existence. One does what they reasonably can to mitigate adverse consequences and moves on. Or not. C.S. Lewis said it better than I ever could.

“In one way we think a great deal too much of the atomic bomb. ‘How are we to live in an atomic age?’ I am tempted to reply: ‘Why, as you would have lived in the sixteenth century when the plague visited London almost every year, or as you would have lived in a Viking age when raiders from Scandinavia might land and cut your throat any night; or indeed, as you are already living in an age of cancer, an age of syphilis, an age of paralysis, an age of air raids, an age of railway accidents, an age of motor accidents.’

In other words, do not let us begin by exaggerating the novelty of our situation. Believe me, dear sir or madam, you and all whom you love were already sentenced to death before the atomic bomb was invented: and quite a high percentage of us were going to die in unpleasant ways. We had, indeed, one very great advantage over our ancestors—anesthetics; but we have that still. It is perfectly ridiculous to go about whimpering and drawing long faces because the scientists have added one more chance of painful and premature death to a world which already bristled with such chances and in which death itself was not a chance at all, but a certainty.

This is the first point to be made: and the first action to be taken is to pull ourselves together. If we are all going to be destroyed by an atomic bomb, let that bomb when it comes find us doing sensible and human things—praying, working, teaching, reading, listening to music, bathing the children, playing tennis, chatting to our friends over a pint and a game of darts—not huddled together like frightened sheep and thinking about bombs. They may break our bodies (a microbe can do that) but they need not dominate our minds.”

— “On Living in an Atomic Age” (1948)

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Articles of Confederation
March 20, 2020 5:40 pm

Not sure how one could downvote that comment.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Articles of Confederation
March 20, 2020 9:47 pm

Fear of Death? Nope. If you are confronted with a danger that can kill you do you rush in or do you pause and go around? Death is not noble. I’ve seen death and the aftermath. Anyone who wants to make it noble generally is the same person pushing for a war or two

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Mygirl...maybe
March 20, 2020 10:50 pm

Death is not noble nor evil. It just *is*. Life is one gigantic, beautiful risk. I’ve watched my wife nearly die in front of me. Once you’ve seen that, you have no fear of the inevitable. And this coronavirus hysteria is hardly “inevitable”.

You’re absolutely scared and that is OK, given it’s one of the core emotions (Anger, Hurt, Sadness, Loneliness, Fear, Shame, Guilt, and Gladness). But it’s what you all (and the Boomer leadership) are doing with it that’s problematic. Sentencing everyone else, including and especially children, to a world of terror is just unbelievably horrific.

I am at the point where I am ashamed that my children are being raised in this country. Unsatisfied with turning men into little girls, America is now turning all children into future PTSD patients. Was it not enough to terrify Gen X during 9/11? Or the Millennials during the Great Recession? Good Lord. At what point do we wrest control of our government from these firebrand radicals?

There is going to be a price to pay for this and it will be far greater than job loss and a permanently altered economic landscape. I can’t say I’d honestly shed a tear if, in a new, more benevolently despotic government, these politicians and their supporters were charged with terrorism. It’d be an open and shut guilty conviction if I were on the jury. The whipsaw/rubber band effect when men are alpha males again is going to be cruel and vicious if people aren’t careful here. Be wary of creating the very beast you’re running from.

History is not going to be kind to the Boomer Prophets. And if the Gen X Nomads don’t step up soon, it won’t be to us, either.

brewer55
brewer55
  Fleabaggs
March 20, 2020 1:53 pm

Flea, you may indeed be right about how the PTB want to ramp up the panic but, how do you disregard so many sources pointing out and/or showing the effects of this disease in real time? Is the whole world on the same page with the conspiracy? Come on, I like a good conspiracy theory as much as the next person but, sometimes things are just as they are. But, once again, I understand that they will not let a good crisis go to waste.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Mygirl...maybe
March 20, 2020 1:47 pm

Those patients need Losartan ASAP.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Iska Waran
March 20, 2020 2:11 pm

Well hell, I have a boat load. I finally got the BP to where it didn’t need meds, that happened after I filled out a script for three months worth. Damn.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Mygirl...maybe
March 20, 2020 2:15 pm

Golly, don’t want to see how the virus is affecting a hospital in Italy? Why not? Guess facts don’t fit the government conspiracy narrative, too much invested in believing the virus is fake, right?

Pequiste
Pequiste
March 20, 2020 10:02 am

At least those are not Bradleys, Strikers and Abrams tanks.

BL
BL
  Pequiste
March 20, 2020 10:53 am

In the past three weeks I have seen small convoys of assorted military vehicles, sometimes daily on the interstate in KY. I have seen a lot of generators in the last few years being transported, that bothers me.

Brewer, this whole mess is manufactured by the government you think is helpful. I would rather have very limited government myself.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Pequiste
March 20, 2020 1:48 pm

They looked like PT Cruisers to me, but I’m no military guy.

Cricket
Cricket
March 20, 2020 10:45 am

I am troubled by how quickly the population has just accepted the government effectively declaring martial law by ordering private businesses to close, telling everyone to stay home, closing borders and cutting off travel. Granted, Canadians tend to be docile, obedient and compliant, but doesn’t anyone see that Trudeau is effectively implementing the Chinese communist controls he so admires in Canada? People are willingly ceding their freedoms to the state without question or protest.

Donkey
Donkey
  Cricket
March 20, 2020 11:08 am

Until the riots start.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  Cricket
March 20, 2020 11:35 am

People willingly ceded their freedoms to the state without question or protest long ago. This is just a continuation of an established trend.

I object to what’s going on as you outlined. I have no choice but to go along because I depend on others in the business environment and they are complying so what I want doesn’t matter.

One should consider what portion of the population objects and is in my frame of mind but is forced to comply by circumstances dictated by asshats and followed willingly by sheep. No one knows because no one is gathering the statistics to find out.

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 20, 2020 10:56 am

They won’t call it martial law, but it’s coming Sunday.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  Anonymous
March 20, 2020 11:28 am

Italy just declared martial law.

BL
BL
  Anonymous
March 20, 2020 1:27 pm

Anon- Where did you get that info? I have reason to believe Monday may bring Martial Law Lite, are you sure?

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Anonymous
March 20, 2020 1:50 pm

Need more toilet paper!

Fedup
Fedup
  Anonymous
March 20, 2020 2:21 pm

States are calling in the national guard, martial law is on the way.

Fuh-Q
Fuh-Q
March 20, 2020 11:19 am

In NJ, doctors are telling their hospital staff that the national guard is being deployed next week.

Dan
Dan
March 20, 2020 1:23 pm

Those vehicles are a symptom of a far bigger danger than this virus.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
March 20, 2020 2:15 pm

When you are a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

What else would these clowns be doing? They declare an emergency and so these folks spring into action. I mean its not as though anyone has ever attempted to attack this country in 79 years (and even that was massively provoked) so there is nothing defense-related they could be doing.

BL
BL
  MrLiberty
March 20, 2020 2:31 pm

Liberty- Not defense but maybe an indicator of a 5000-6000 point drop in the rigged casino in one day?
Peeps might get nervous/shitty.

Anymouse
Anymouse
  Administrator
March 20, 2020 2:48 pm

those are just mobile charging stations for the elites Tesla’s, nothing to see here.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Administrator
March 20, 2020 2:58 pm

There are military ships in NY Harbor. More to fear from them.

Saxons Wrath
Saxons Wrath
  Administrator
March 20, 2020 4:33 pm

Different States have decided to, or not, mobilize various National Guard units.

It is up to STATE level authorities, the Governor basically, as to whether or not who to mobilize and how many. The Fed will basically pay

Last the news said was about 10,000 Guard Soldiers had been activated in various States and locations for support duties.

Until you see military vehicles with crew served weapons, WITH LIVE AMMUNITION LOCKED and LOADED and troops in body armor rolling around, carrying individual weapons, LOCKED AND COCKED, even in convoys on highways, I would not get real excited.

YMMV

Diogenes
Diogenes
March 20, 2020 3:29 pm

Projec POGO. Project ZYPHER.

(EC)
(EC)
March 20, 2020 6:39 pm

They published similar scenes back in 2001 and 2008. It’s a tactic like the one described about a bunch of rubes who wanted to make a show of force by announcing they were going hunting and paraded through the town with their weapons.

What other stuff have we seen like this? Oh yeah, those videos about military choppers landing in downtown LA or scenes of military joes carrying out maneuvers in urban areas. It isn’t training. Shit, they could conduct that training on base. No, the intent is to scandalize and intimidate the masses.

As the old saying goes: He who threatens one, threatens all.

TLate
TLate
March 20, 2020 9:24 pm

Further East? I doubt it the great state of Illinois has been ordered to “shelter in place” by the governor. Next announcement will be people are not complying so call up the National guard and set up checkpoints, show me your papers etc. etc. Chicago will be locked down by martial law. Shelter in place is de facto martial law get a clue sheeple! They will need a lot of vehicles like the ones in the video to set up check points. I hope I am wrong and get a gazillion down votes that would make me very happy!!! Stand by for heavy rolls in the next few weeks as we used to say in the surface Navy.

TLate
TLate
March 20, 2020 9:32 pm

Italy Calls in Military to Enforce Lockdown as Coronavirus Death Toll Skyrockets source Breitbart
Like I said…..again hope I am wrong.