Thinking About The Unthinkable

Guest Post by The Zman

Last summer, cable personality Tucker Carlson started doing a bit where he claimed to believe in things like extra-terrestrials, or at least believe they are possible. He would go through a list of things that he used to think were impossible, then finish with how in a world where Donald Trump is president, anything is possible. The point was not to talk about little green men, but to highlight how our old assumptions have to be abandoned, because many of them have been proven false by events.

It is a good thing to keep in mind when evaluating predictions about what comes after the great lock down. Trump is no longer talking about Easter as the back to normal date and has extended the lock down through April. Governors are now in a race to see who can come up with the bleakest prediction for when things get back to normal. The Brits now lead the race with six months as their estimate. This is an unprecedented time, which means what was considered unthinkable is very thinkable.

For example, ten years ago most Americans assumed the political classes had learned a hard lesson from Watergate. They had let the security services run wild for too long and suddenly they were a threat to the politicians. The days of a J. Edgar Hoover spying on people were over. Not only was that false, but there was a plot among FBI officials to interfere in the presidential election. They went so far as to concoct an impeachment trap in order to remove Donald Trump.

Six months ago is was unthinkable that these same security agencies would have the president removed by some other means. Six months ago we did not have a third of the country hiding under their beds. We did not have major cities turned into ghost towns by quarantine orders. How unreasonable is it to think that the same people who launched the seditious plot in 2015 would find themselves a Lee Harvey Oswald? It sounds crazy, but we live in an age where the crazy quickly becomes the norm.

What about something less cloak and dagger like martial law? State governors are getting pretty close to the line between state of emergency and assuming dictatorial powers over their states. New Jersey is supposedly issuing travel passes to citizens and arresting people for gathering in their own homes. Los Angeles has suspended the second amendment. Trump has contemplated a Federal quarantine of New York City, which would probably mean troops on the streets to enforce it.

On April 27, 1861, Lincoln suspended the writ of habeas corpus between Washington, D.C., and Philadelphia so military authorities could silence rebel dissenters. In a world where governors are calling up the National Guard in order to enforce a lock down, is martial law really unthinkable? Sure, some nutty judge would no doubt challenge Trump on something like this, but what about governors? Would a corrupt judge like Amy Berman Jackson challenge a fellow party member like Cuomo on this?

What about the upcoming election? The Democrats have already suspended many of their state primaries for this virus. Given that Joe Biden is in such poor health now, they may force the suspension of the remaining primaries in order to have an easier time finding a replacement for him at the convention. That’s a precedent that could easily be used to delay the general election in November. What if New York and California have a second wave of the flu in the fall? Unthinkable?

How about something way out there with Tucker Carlson’s space aliens, like a military coup to topple Trump? The military is riddled with multicultural lunatics these days, so you know many are fanatical Trump haters. You can be sure there are a few generals who think they are Napoleon trapped in the body of a mediocrity. Given what we saw with the FBI, it is not unreasonable to think that the same “us versus them” mentality has crept into the officer ranks of the military.

Of course, for a military coup to work, it needs at least some support down the line, but mostly it needs civilian support. An ambitious general would need someone that really hates Trump to be the fig leaf for the coup. Would a vindictive old bat like Nancy Pelosi entertain such an idea? Would a group of Senators from the neoconservative cult consider such a thing? It seems unthinkable, but again, we live in an age when the unthinkable is not just thinkable, but happening in real life.

Of course, military coups and revolutions at the top have the habit of setting off civil unrest, as some portion of the public protests what’s happening. Locking people in their homes and communities will have unanticipated consequences. Lots of things that were out of the question now start entering people’s minds. The riots in Wuhan after they lifted the lock down is a good reminder that forcing people to do something does not change their unhappiness with the policy. It just intensifies it.

If this does go on for months and the cracks in the ruling class begin to show, is civil unrest really unthinkable? Is civil war unthinkable? Rhode Island now considers New Yorkers persona non grata. Pennsylvania is doing the same. Mainers are now going vigilante on suspected New Jerseyites. Sure, concern for the virus is the stated reason, but a general dislike for New Yorkers is the real reason. There are lots of such divisions in this country. Is civil war really so unthinkable?

Just because something is possible, does not mean it is likely. It is possible to hit the lottery for a billion dollars, but the odds are very small. What we’re talking about here though are the things that were thought impossible or close to impossible just six months ago that are now suddenly possible. Maybe they are still unthinkable within the ruling classes, but we thought the FBI and CIA spying on presidential candidates was unthinkable until not so long ago.

We live in an age where the unthinkable, like the fog, quietly creeps up on us until suddenly the unthinkable is the new normal. Just as “shelter in place” is the new normal whenever it snows, mandatory lock downs will be the new normal whenever too many people get the sniffles. The unthinkable not only becomes thinkable, it becomes impossible to think otherwise. It also means that everything unthinkable today is suddenly on the table, maybe even the menu, for tomorrow.

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28 Comments
Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
March 31, 2020 10:37 am

The words ‘martial law’ have no special significance. Yes, they have legal significance but the law is anything the asshats say it is, so that doesn’t really change anything.

Gov’ts have effectively initiated martial law but have simply avoided using the term. We are in a martial law clamp down but as long as no one utters those words, it’s all just peachy.

Dirtperson Steve
Dirtperson Steve
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 31, 2020 11:52 am

We? You remind TBP in almost every thread you live in a Carribean Paradise not under the thumb of Uncle.

“You are in a martial law clamp down but as long as no one utters those words, it’s all just peachy.”

I fixed it for you.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  Dirtperson Steve
March 31, 2020 11:59 am

I do not remind people of where I live, people keep asking and I reply. There’s a difference that someone with intelligence would recognize.

Almost the entire world is doing the same shit, including where I am. You assumed that the US is the center of the universe and you’re wrong. I’m involved in this martial law event and you’re involved. Therefore WE are involved.

There – taught you something.

gman
gman
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 31, 2020 12:49 pm

“Therefore WE are involved.”

and your goal is to escape the “we”.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  gman
March 31, 2020 1:03 pm

There’s no way to escape short of disappearing into the wilderness and living like a caveman.

There are ways to limit exposure, however.

I lived thru the NY riots. I attended HS in an almost entirely ghetto neighborhood and have scars for my encounters with the savages.

I knew this was coming shortly after 911 and decided to put some distance between me and the heavy concentrations of capable gov’t goons with fabulous weaponry along with the ghetto dwellers that are inevitably going to start trying to burn cities down.

I would have never guessed it would take this long to materialize, but I do believe the shit has now hit the fan.

oldtimer505
oldtimer505
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 31, 2020 12:29 pm

Amen, SaO Now all we have to do is get the message out to the sheeple in some way.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  oldtimer505
March 31, 2020 12:48 pm

The sheeple are unreachable by any means at our disposal. In fact, they prefer not knowing or even thinking about what we recognize as inevitable.

The sheeple will wake up when their bellies start aching for food or when some other real pain smacks them in the face and the cause is readily identifiable to them. But even then, the media will place the cause as some unforeseeable event and our dedicated representatives are to be thanked profusely for saving the little ass we have left.

The sheeple will get on their knees and bow down in front or their TV sets or fondle slabs.

gman
gman
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 31, 2020 12:58 pm

“fondle slabs”?

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  gman
March 31, 2020 1:06 pm

I guess you don’t watch the Corbett Report.

Fondle Slab = Smartphone

oldtimer505
oldtimer505
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 31, 2020 2:01 pm

Thats a good one! I like that. Now I will have to pay closer attention to see if their eyes roll back in their heads.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  oldtimer505
March 31, 2020 12:52 pm

The old guard that lives to ‘get the message out’ will die off, thank God, and this nightmare will start to die from starvation. I have to get the message out that there is no magical message to get out that is not the kiss of death. Not really. Nature and nature’s God does not give a crap. There will be winners, and they will inherit the earth as masters of the next order. I can tell you only who it won’t be.

Montefrío
Montefrío
March 31, 2020 12:06 pm

Before taking up arms, a mass campaign of civil disobedience needs to gather momentum. Starve the beast comes to mind. Those who work in critical industries and public utilities are in very good positions to offer resistance to the “establishment” and making demands for a political/financial/economic housecleaning. A taste of this can be found in the delightful novel The Monkey Wrench Gang, even if it does lionize envirowackos.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Montefrío
March 31, 2020 12:17 pm

They will do nothing until they lose all.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Anonymous
March 31, 2020 1:53 pm

They will be dead when they loose all. Just look at the convictions here at the vanguard.

gman
gman
  Montefrío
March 31, 2020 12:46 pm

“a mass campaign of civil disobedience needs to gather momentum”

more relevantly its participants need to have a common shared goal. which is exactly precisely what the loner right will not achieve or accept.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Montefrío
March 31, 2020 12:58 pm

What a stupidly naive comment. Always containment of the enemy because Jesus saves all comers. What government do you expect to create after a successful overthrow with the likes of these dumbasses? You lack the cultural purity and excellence to do better. This government is too good for you. Take it up the ass and love it as you love your neighbor without qualification or qualm. If you morons don’t like my comments, don’t read them.

DurangoDan
DurangoDan
March 31, 2020 12:10 pm

It’s a good time to rewatch the Tiny Dot. Citizen enforcement is the worst aspect of this global lockdown.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  DurangoDan
March 31, 2020 1:44 pm

Great comment, I think or I thought. The video is tedious and does not fit the truth of citizen preference and deference because it toes the Christcuck narrative of togetherness. You have any idea how many Leftist Americans and new Americans would slit your throat for the yucks? Oh, but people are basically good. Big (((lie))). Diversity + Proximity = War

oldtimer505
oldtimer505
March 31, 2020 12:34 pm

Virginia citizens; Is it true your progressive governor has just declared a lock-down and stay in place order until June 30. Is it true that you will be fined 2500 bucks and it could include a 1 yr jail term if you are arrested for not following it? Help us out here and keep us informed.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  oldtimer505
March 31, 2020 12:54 pm

June 10th. Not sure about the fine and criminal penalty.

oldtimer505
oldtimer505
  Articles of Confederation
March 31, 2020 3:00 pm

Thank you for the update. It is always nice to have boots on the ground in the area.

gman
gman
  oldtimer505
March 31, 2020 1:00 pm

and whether they are implementing gun confiscations by emergency means now.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
March 31, 2020 12:49 pm

Sure, concern for the virus is the stated reason, but a general dislike for New Yorkers is the real reason.

Well no shit, Sherlock, I’ve been saying it since 2008. As you sow, so shall you reap. If I was anywhere within 250 miles of either Washington or NYC, I’d be feeling a tad uncomfortable. I still have family in the DC metro area that won’t listen to me. Maybe the virus will wake them up, but I’m not holding my breath. People know subconsciously that the woes of America are centered on those future steaming ash piles.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Articles of Confederation
March 31, 2020 1:50 pm

A painful realization is accepting cultural capacity runs unrestrained across blood lines without handicap. The logic consequences are worse than anything I’ve asserted in this place thus far.

gman
gman
March 31, 2020 12:57 pm

speaking of unthinkable, here’s a plague haiku.

plague reigns in spring
bullets reign in summer
autumn closes in

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
March 31, 2020 1:58 pm

I love the current predicament. I am no longer the isolated failure. Welcome to my world, dumbasses who did this first to me and all those who would have stopped this. What you got coming is coming. Is it too late to buy a fiddle on Amazon?

Like every rotten ex-civilization before, let it burn. For example:
“Idaho has become the first U.S. state to ban transgender girls and women from competing in female sports leagues, enacting new laws that also prevent trans people from changing their birth certificates.” I don’t give a fuck that muh law is prohibiting it. We are nothing without government telling us who we are. We are politically debating diversity to the point of glorified perversion of sexualization. This is who we are collectively. The collective is rotten to the core. Duh. Go on, faithful dumbasses. You be tired of my tedious commentary. Suffer more. There is no bottom to this until enough of you hit bottom and realize what your fucking balls are for!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  'Reality' Doug
March 31, 2020 5:23 pm

Dude, you got anger issues that go should be graphed. Try flattening that curve or risk popping those blood vessels behind your eyes.

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 1, 2020 3:48 pm

The fact that any state or local government can suspend any constitutional right flies in the face of everything we as free Americans should should find incomprehensible . Remember what John Kennedy said those that make free peaceful speech or change impossible make violent and deadly force for change inevitable ! I know not a direct quote but damn close .
I can and will cooperate by keeping my distance and shelter in place as much as possible by my own will and accord . I understand why this is necessary
However if some badge wearing minion thinks he or she can start interfering with my reasonable attempts to travel to obtain necessary goods or services we are going to have a problem .
I will not be intimidated by some badge wearing minion questioning my motives and lecturing me what I should or should not be doing .
I am an American Citizen Free Born and of good report and will not be intimidated