The IRS is sending $1,200 stimulus checks to dead people

Via Marketwatch

More than 80 million Americans are expected to get their stimulus money this week, according to the Treasury Department

Many Americans are eagerly anticipating stimulus checks of up to $1,200 starting this week, but in a few cases the recipients won’t be celebrating — because they’re dead.

The IRS began distributing $290 billion in direct cash payments within the past week as part of a $2 trillion CARES Act stimulus bill, and anecdotes are already surfacing about the IRS issuing money to the deceased.

Rep. Thomas Massie, a Republican from Kentucky, said Wednesday a friend texted him to say his father, dead since 2018, had just received his $1,200 in stimulus money.

“Ok this is insane, but just the tip of the iceberg. This is a direct text to me from a friend. I called to confirm this actually just happened,” Massie wrote on Twitter TWTR, -1.53%. The legislator became the target of bipartisan scorn late last month when he unsuccessfully asked for a roll-call vote on the stimulus bill.

In Florida, tax preparer Adam Markowitz has also seen examples among his clientele of the IRS sending stimulus money to dead people this week. (He declined to go into more specifics to protect his clients’ privacy.) What’s more, it appears the survivors can keep the money, he told MarketWatch.

“There is nothing that the IRS has that is preventing someone who is deceased from receiving this money,” said Markowitz, an enrolled agent and vice president of Howard L Markowitz PA, CPA, based in Leesburg, Fla.

It’s important to remember some of the stimulus check guidelines to understand how such a twist of events can occur.

When the IRS determines eligibility and check amounts, it’s looking at the adjusted gross income on a household’s 2019 tax return. (Those are the returns being filed in the current tax season that ends July 15.)

If the IRS doesn’t yet have the 2019 return, it looks at the adjusted gross income on the 2018 tax return to determine the size of a household’s stimulus check.

Single filers with adjusted gross incomes below $75,000 will receive a $1,200 payment and married couples making under $150,000 will receive a $2,400 check. The government will also pay $500 per qualifying child under age 17.

“The IRS claims it is going to take the data from your most recent tax return that is available,” Markowitz said. “If a taxpayer filed jointly with a deceased spouse in 2018 and has not filed a 2019 tax return yet, the IRS likely has no safeguard in place to ensure that it won’t make that payment to someone who is no longer with us.”

Massie noted his friend filed the father’s taxes for 2018. His office didn not immediately respond to a request for comment beyond his tweets.

The stimulus bill’s top goal was to provide quick cash to consumers and businesses, not complete precision, according to Nicole Kaeding, an economist and vice president of policy promotion at the National Taxpayers Union Foundation, a right-leaning tax think tank.

“An important provision of the [Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security] act, as it relates to these checks, is that if the IRS sends you too much money, you do not need to pay it back,” Kaeding said. “It is considered a clerical or math error on behalf of the IRS. And that’s important because they were trying to issue these checks quickly.”

The IRS knows “some people will receive money even when they didn’t qualify, but expedited processing was their No. 1 concern.”

The IRS and the Treasury Department did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

The real open question was “the opposite situation, where someone didn’t get enough,” Kaeding noted. That might happen, for example, if a woman had a child after she filed a 2018 tax return but hasn’t yet filed a 2019 return, and potentially missed out on $500 for the newborn.

“The IRS would not include the child in their check, however the child would qualify,” she said. Tax experts are waiting for Treasury Department guidance on what will happen in that type of scenario, Kaeding said.

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16 Comments
gman
gman
  Administrator
April 16, 2020 12:04 pm

“good”

that’s exactly what some people are thinking … not realizing that it might be them ….

Pequiste
Pequiste
April 16, 2020 11:00 am

Over in N.J. as long as his company is collecting the “stimulus” checks from customers staying at his Subacute and Rehabilitation Centers I and II via direct deposits, Chaim Sheinbaum thinks this is quite good for his business:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/after-anonymous-tip-17-bodies-are-found-at-nursing-home-hit-by-virus/ar-BB12GNxV?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout

Revenues are piling up there (along with the corpses.)

Cow Doctor
Cow Doctor
April 16, 2020 11:30 am

And the DNC is including a mail in ballot.

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 16, 2020 11:45 am

This is how to stimulate the economy . It won’t be pumped back into a the stock market or paid out in corporate bonuses. To bad Bojo didn’t get keep it. A loss for a local community, no doubt.

“A volunteer firefighter in New Chicago, Indiana was awaiting a $1700 stimulus payment but upon withdrawing a mere $200 from his dwindling available balance at an ATM last Friday was shocked to find his remaining balance $8.2 million.”

https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/indiana-man-waiting-1700-stimulus-finds-82-million-bank-account-instead

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Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
April 16, 2020 11:57 am

Just so I understand this properly, 80 million people are going to get their checks this week, but it will take until September to get the rest of the money to the remainder?

Anyone have any idea how that makes sense?

FWIW we filed out income tax return in January and still have not received our return.

gman
gman
  Hardscrabble Farmer
April 16, 2020 12:08 pm

“Anyone have any idea how that makes sense?”

sure. the “.01” get the newly printed dollars first, and buy up everything at present prices. then the rest of us get to tread water in the now elevated price environment with the proto-ubi $1200 for which we will be grateful. wealth-transfer, AND corralling the herd.

makes perfect sense for the “.01”.

gman
gman
April 16, 2020 12:04 pm

heard of “dead man walking”? dead man spending.

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 16, 2020 12:38 pm

Recently dead could still have income now paid to their estate also following the last verified tax return this could still be sent to an active account as the deceased affairs are settled ! Probably not a huge number .
The big number of fraud in this area the illegals using bogus social-security numbers and the people allegedly still kicking at 110 years old . The family dealing with one or more deaths screw it the deceased was mostly fucked by our tax system their entire working life let it go

Gloriously Deplorable Paul
Gloriously Deplorable Paul
  Anonymous
April 16, 2020 1:14 pm

Fuggin Newsom in California is giving $500 each to illegals!

Trapped in Portlandia
Trapped in Portlandia
April 16, 2020 12:42 pm

Hell, dead people can vote in Chicago, why shouldn’t they get a stimulus check.

gman
gman
  Trapped in Portlandia
April 16, 2020 1:16 pm

“why shouldn’t they get a stimulus check”

because it’s not stimulus, it’s proto-ubi bait, and there’s no point in baiting a dead person.

BL
BL
  Administrator
April 16, 2020 12:57 pm

Why not Admin, they have been voting in elections for a hundred years, dead peoples need to be rewarded for thier service to the club.

EDIT: Sorry Trapped missed your post above, but I agree that we’re all in this together, dead or alive. (cough)

BL
BL
  BL
April 16, 2020 1:08 pm

Definition of a Death Wish;

Eating a bacon, egg and cheese on toast sammich cooked by a Cambodian National with NO GLOVES/ NO MASK on, which I did this morning (true). Bet I still get stimulus checks after the COVID gets me.

TC
TC
April 16, 2020 3:05 pm

A high school kid with no programming experience could whip up a python script in a couple hours to filter out database entries of the deceased. There’s no way incompetence explains this.