A decade ago Peter Turchin predicted that 2020 would be “mayhem”, including “widespread civil unrest”.
Turchin teaches cultural evolution at the University of Connecticut and, in 2010, predicted in the scholarly journal Nature that America would “suffer a period of major social upheaval” starting around the year 2020.
“They had no reason to believe I wasn’t crazy,” back in 2010, he told Time. “People did not understand that I was making scientific predictions, not prophecies.”
And from the current vantage point, he looks to be exactly right. 2020 started with a global pandemic and has torpedoed into further chaos with the killing of George Floyd and the ensuing riots and protests.
Turchin isn’t especially excited about being right: “As a scientist, I feel vindicated. But on the other hand, I am an American and have to live through these hard times.”
Turchin has spent decades studying crises in America and the structural defects that helped created them. He said there were “many signs” that there would be upheaval starting in this decade.
Citing stretches of turmoil that occur about every 50 years, he looked at data that analyzed peaceful and violent anti-government demonstrations involving at least 100 people over the 230 years preceding 2010.
And to no Zero Hedge reader’s surprise, he looked at “declining wages, wealth inequality and exploding national debt” as social pressures that affected national stability. His model showed that the U.S. would reach a “boiling point” in 2020.
Recall, money manager and Central Bank critic Bill Fleckenstein commented on a recent podcast that the Fed’s actions over the last several decades also helped contribute to this boiling point.
Turchin says that worse conditions could be on their way, as societal crises often last 5 to 15 years. He believes that the underlying roots of the unrest need to be addressed to prevent situations like those playing out in South Africa, where protests about inequality have been taking place for 26 years.
“President Donald Trump’s administration has denied that systemic racism exists in the U.S. law enforcement system, which could delay change longer,” Turchin says.
With the coronavirus still worsening the wellbeing of the country and millions out of work, he now believes that the unrest “may escalate all the way to a civil war.”
“Things are not as bad as they can be,” Turchin concluded.
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“Things aren’t bad as they could be”
Sounds like a recipe for disaster in hindsight.
“The Man Who Predicted “Mayhem” In 2020 Ten Years Ago Says A Civil War Could Be Next”
lots of people have been saying that for the last ten years. for the last fifty even.
get w/the program,anon–he has credentials,you & i are just ignoranuses–
Well the feces is going to hit the rotating blade in Minneapolis. Just published in the Red Star:
Nationwide, people expressed outrage when prosecutors released the preliminary findings of George Floyd’s autopsy, highlighting cardiovascular heart disease and “potential intoxicants” in his system, as if those factors might explain his death as police officers pinned him to the ground.
Those findings contained just one mention of physical trauma, noting that Floyd’s body showed no signs of asphyxia or strangulation. The public and some medical professionals cried foul, putting Dr. Andrew Baker, Hennepin County’s medical examiner, squarely in the hot seat.
https://www.startribune.com/george-floyd-s-autopsy-puts-hennepin-county-medical-examiner-andrew-baker-in-the-hot-seat/571343522/
The death of this ne’er-do-well isn’t the issue. The issue is that we have, though acknowledging cultural disparities casuing policing problems, not stopped and taken steps to eliminate the use of apparent inequities as reason for rage. This will likely happen now. A side benefit to the country as a whole will be the exposure of the nexis of the “founders” of BLM and the DNC. If the last three years weren’t enough to expose their rank nakedness, this probably will do them in.
“Things are not as bad as they WILL be” seems to me just a little more possible? Psst, remaining productive/sane “citYzens/urbies” – best be a “‘get’n country-side” SOOOON. Tick-tock. Let multi-billionare-subsidized progressives/woke/DemonRATS and their doofus DummyBRATS “do unto each other”. Yo, fellow [still] PRODUCTIVE “country-Folk” – GROUPed/GUNned/GARDENed and . . . System-D SIMPLIFIED on a portion of arable, UNencumbered GROUND . . . “carry on”! Lock[ed] and load[ed] – NO FEAR/HATE. “JC always before me”! Hoo-rah.
BTW, VDH just posted his latest piece of literary acumen relevant to this posting: How Cultural Revolutions Die – or Not
Eureka : This man is a genius let’s get Obama to give him his worthless Nobel Prize he was awarded for being half black and all socialist leader of the free world for 8 years of failure ! YA!
Anyone with a dollar store solar calculator and some updated true economic figures could have predicted this mess including the ultimate civil war !
Declining incomes destroying middle class economic security , destruction of the family unit socially and morally especially in black communities . Add a series of decades transferring wealth from the majority to a minute minority of extremely wealthy connected individuals and their bought and paid for political class and ? the stage is set . Add a complacent media pumping one party lie while another party plays victim or go along to get along because they too are profiting from the mess . Also add the race baiting white against black , black against white and the FAT RATS ON TOP CANNOT LOSE and wake up black and white we are all niggers now to those powers that be Dream Boy Obama included in the top !
Are we sure he just didn’t read the Fourth Turning?
So he got a few heads up from a Fed Reserve Bankster, a Bilderberger, the Council of Foreign Relations, National Security Council, United Nations, US State Dept planners etc a couple decades ago and things are going according to The Plan…Anyone who lives near a Black area and watches commercial TV or PBS and understands Cultural Communism could see a Race War coming almost any day; anyone who had Economics 101 could see a hyperinflation crash within a couple years; anyone who understands solar and history cycles can see famine coming esp with the US Government chem-spraying us and doing everything it can to destroy farmers, ranchers and small companies. He’s a New England Commie professor; give him a Red Star.
Stop slobbering over the precepts of man and seek the Kingdom of God first and always.
Back in 1981, my Mormon ancestors informed me in no uncertain terms that 2020 was going to be “the year.”
God grants inside info to those who are truly faithful, obedient, and repentant.
Spare me this 4th Turning crap too. It’s just another lame attempt at placing the wisdom of men over and above the wisdom of the holy scriptures.
No you spare us the Mormon lectures.
https://listverse.com/2012/10/05/top-10-embarrassments-of-the-mormon-religion/
I down voted you due to the article afixed to your comment. Try reading the book of Mormon and give us an opinion then.
All religions have had one Hell of a time glossing over their buffoonery.
Baptismal orgies called love festivals by the deep Southern Baptists springs to mind.
The Book Of Mormon was supposedly given to Joseph Smith by an angel, The Angel Moroni just as Mohammed was given the Quran by the angel Jibrīl, with all this hundreds of years AFTER Paul recorded this:
“For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their actions.…”
2 Corinthians 11:13-15
Believe what you want.
I know many fine Mormans, and a few Muslims, both groups believe in Jesus, but both groups are the same as the Jews, one works their way to Heaven.
How about this Two?
CONTRADICATIONS BETWEEN THE BOOK OF MORMON AND THE BIBLE
Luke P. Wilson
Post date:
July 6, 2011
Copyright © 1999 Institute for Religious Research. All rights reserved.
There are many serious objections to the claim of Joseph Smith and the LDS church that the Book of Mormon is divinely inspired latter-day scripture supplemental to the Bible. However, none are more significant than the numerous contradictions between Book of Mormon teaching and the Bible. This list is illustrative only, not exhaustive.
“The contradictions between the Book of Mormon and the Bible constitute a most serious obstacle to accepting the Book of Mormon as Latter-day scripture supplemental to the Bible.”
1. The Book of Mormon teaches that little children are not capable of sin because they do not have a sinful nature (Moroni 8:8). In contrast, the Bible in Psalm 51:5 clearly teaches that we have sinful nature from birth: “Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me” (NIV). (This does not mean that those who die in infancy are lost.*)
2. The Book of Mormon teaches that the disobedience of Adam and Eve in eating the forbidden fruit was necessary so that they could have children and bring joy to mankind (2 Nephi 2:23-25).
In contrast, the Bible specifically declares that Adam’s transgression was a sinful act of rebellion that unleashed the power of sin and death in the human heart and throughout God’s perfect world (Genesis 3:16-19; Romans 5:12; 8:20-21). There is no Biblical support for the view that Adam and Eve could only fulfill the command to “be fruitful and multiply” (Genesis 1:28) by disobeying God’s command regarding the forbidden fruit (Genesis 2:17). The Book of Mormon teaching that these divine commands are contradictory, and that God expected Adam and Eve to figure out that in reality He wanted them to break the latter command (“of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it”) in order to keep the former (“be fruitful and multiply”), has no basis in logic or the Biblical text, and attributes equivocation to God.
3. The Book of Mormon teaches that black skin is a sign of God’s curse, so that white-skinned people are considered morally and spiritually superior to black skinned people (2 Nephi 5:21). In contrast, the Bible teaches that God “made of one blood all nations of men” (Acts 17:26, KJV), that in Christ distinctions of ethnicity, gender and social class are erased (Galatians 3:28), and that God condemns favoritism (James 2:1).
4. The Book of Mormon teaches that, “it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do” (2 Nephi 25:23; see also Moroni 10:32). In contrast, the Bible teaches that apart from Christ we are dead in sin (Ephesians 2:1,5) and unable to do anything to merit forgiveness and eternal life. Salvation is wholly of grace (Ephesians 2:8-9; Romans 11:6; Titus 3:5-6), not by grace plus works. Good works are a result, not the basis, of a right relationship with God (Ephesians 2:10).
5. According to the Book of Mormon, about 600 years before Christ, a Nephite prophet predicted that “many plain and precious parts” (1 Nephi 13:26-28) would be removed from the Bible. In contrast, from the Bible it is clear that during His earthly ministry, Jesus himself constantly quoted from the Old Testament Scriptures, and showed full confidence in their completeness and accurate transmission as they had survived down to His time. Jesus declared that “heaven and earth shall pass away, but my word shall not pass away” (Mark 13:31; see also Matthew 5:18), and promised His disciples who were to pen the New Testament that the Holy Ghost “shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you” (John 14:26); Jesus further promised the apostles that they would “bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain” (John 15:16). These promises clearly imply that the fruit of the apostles — the New Testament Scriptures and the Christian church — would endure.
6. According to a Book of Mormon prophecy (Helaman 14:27), at the time of Christ’s crucifixion “darkness should cover the face of the whole earth for the space of three days.” In contrast, the New Testament gospel accounts declare repeatedly that there was darkness for only three hours while Jesus was on the cross (Matthew 27:45; Mark 15:33; Luke 23:44).
An earlier prophecy in 1 Nephi 19:10 implies the three days of darkness will be more than regional in scope for it says this sign will be “unto those who inhabit the isles of the sea, more especially given unto those who are of the house of Israel.” The darkness then would extend over the ocean to the islands and reach as far as Israel in the Middle East.
Book of Mormon references to the fulfillment of this prophecy, however, use wording that could be understood to mean the three days of darkness was only in the Americas, stating that the three days of darkness would be “over the face of the land.” (3 Nephi 8:3ff; 10:9). This appears to be the position of the late Mormon General Authority B. H. Roberts in his book Studies of the Book of Mormon, p. 292). If this is the case, then this would resolve the apparent contradiction between the Bible and the Book of Mormon regarding what happened at the time of Christ’s death, for we would have 3 hours of darkness in Israel and 3 days of darkness on the American continents. However, this would make the earlier prophecies of 1 Nephi and Helaman internally contradictory with later BOM references, since their phrasing of “the isles of the sea … those who are of the house of Israel” and “the whole face of the whole earth” is difficult to understand as merely a localized time of darkness.
7. The Book of Mormon people are said to have observed “all things according to the law of Moses (2 Nephi 5:10; 25:24). However, although they are supposed to have been Hebrews, they were descendents of the tribe of Joseph (1 Nephi 5:17) or Manasseh (Alma 10:3), not the tribe of Levi and family line of Aaron, as the Law of Moses dictates (Numbers 3:10; Exodus 29:9; Numbers 18:1-7), so they would not have had a legitimate priesthood.
8. According to the Book of Mormon, there were many high priests serving at the same time (Mosiah 11:11; Alma 13:9-10; 46:6,38; Helaman 3:25) in the New World, among those it describes as Jewish immigrants from ancient Israel who “kept the law of Moses” (e.g., 2 Nephi 25:10; Jacob 4:5; Jarom 1:5). In contrast, it is clear from the Bible that only one individual at a time occupied the office of high priest under the Old Testament dispensation (see, for example Leviticus 21:10; Matthew 26:3; Hebrews 8:6-7). (The mention in Luke 3:2 of “Annas and Caiaphas being the high priests” is not a real exception — in Christ’s time Israel was under the domination of the Romans, who intervened to change the high priest at will. That is, this office became a kind of “political football,” rather than following the appointment process dictated in the Law of Moses. See John 18:13, which describes Annas as “father-in-law to Caiaphas, which was the high priest that same year.”)
9. The people described in the Book of Mormon operated multiple temples (Alma 16:13; 23:2; 26:29). This violates the dictates of the Old Testament Scriptures on two counts: First, God commanded Israel to build only one temple to reflect that fact that there is only one true God (Deuteronomy 12:5,13-14; 16:5-6). Second, the one legitimate temple was to be built in Jerusalem (Zion), the location designated by God (The Old Testament is filled with explicit references to God choosing Jerusalem [Zion] as the place where “His name would dwell” in the temple: for example, 1 Kings 8:44,48; 11:13,32,36; 14:21; 2 Kings 21:7; 23:27; 1 Chronicles 28:4; 2 Chronicles 6:6; 7:12,16; Psalm 78:68-69; Isaiah 18:7.
10. The most common biblical terms used to describe the Old Testament priesthood, temple and appointed feasts, are entirely missing from the Book of Mormon. Here are 10 examples of such biblical terms with their frequencies, that never appear once in the Book of Mormon:
“laver” (13 times in Bible)
“incense” (121 times in Bible)
“ark of the covenant” (48 times in Bible)
“sons of Aaron” (97 times in Bible)
“mercy seat” (23 in Bible)
“day of atonement” (21 times in Bible)
“feast of tabernacles” (17 times in Bible)
“passover” (59 times in Bible)
“house of the LORD” (627 in Bible)
“Aaron” – this name appears 48 times in the Book of Mormon, but never in reference to the biblical Aaron or the Aaronic priesthood
Conclusion: The contradictions between the Book of Mormon and the Bible constitute a most serious obstacle to accepting the Book of Mormon as Latter-day scripture that is supplemental to the Bible. The Bible came first, not the Book of Mormon. And whereas the Bible is organically linked to the earthly ministry of Jesus Christ by extensive surviving manuscript evidence going back as far as A.D. 125-30, the Book of Mormon is wholly lacking in any such evidences of ancient origin. Is it not reasonable, therefore, to make the Bible the standard for judging the Book of Mormon, and not the other way around? If we accept the Bible as our “measuring stick” for spiritual truth, the Book of Mormon must be rejected.
JOSEPH SMITH AND MOHAMMED…THE SIMILARITIES
http://www.inplainsite.org/html/smith_and_muhammed.html
I knew a fourth generation Mormon who became a Born Again Christian, and led me to many studies on what should be called the ‘MOREMAN’ cult. He was a bold witness to Mormons, developed quite a ministry.
Did some deep dives on Mormonism many years ago. Usually, fine, clean living, but LOST and DECEIVED people. Much like the family who indoctrinated me into Mary and Saint worshiping – works based Catholicism as a boy.
Don’t belong to any religion, denomination, or cult, just worship the Triune God and study His word.
LOL #6 just cracks me up every time. I can’t believe dipshit Republicans actually nominated a dude wearing long johns in the middle of every summer! Romney and Reid’s fermunda must be hideous.
#2 is whacked. That’s some weird shit for sure.
Jesus is the ultimate insider and he does not know, but some false prophets have been told????
Mark 13:32 “But as for that day or hour, no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. “
Slow your roll. I didn’t suggest that the timing of the second coming would be made known to anyone, just that God reveals certain inside information to those he deems worthy.
I can’t believe you want me to donate to this supposedly independant site, and then it turns out that I have to do it by going through PAYPAL!!??
You can write a check.
Yeah, that’s what I do, once a month, easy
TBP, better then the MSM.
I think a cleansing is necessary.
The D’s may hope to recreate the paradise they know as South Africa but there are too many armed Heritage Americans to allow that happen.
Change will come but not in the Black Community any time soon. With an inner-city education system churning out sub 85 IQ graduates, an out of wedlock rate of 73% and an inner belief that “Whitey” is the cause of all of their problems there isn’t a base to start from.
Perhaps one day a “Grey Champion” will emerge for them;hopefully one that says learn,learn,so you can earn. I afraid that the one that will emerge will shout “Burn,Baby,Burn .
To all arguing theology : There are many paths to God and enlightenment ! May your path not be to difficult !
It is enough to walk among fellow humans with honesty and respect and to defend infancy and innocence with all your strength . Treat others as you wish to be treated and use your faith tempered with intellect to protect yourself and those in your charge !
FORGET ME NOT