The Conversation We’re Not Having

Guest Post by Paul Rosenberg

Given the danger, fear and barbarism that are presently engulfing the West, I find it necessary to point out that we’ve lost something very important: We’re no longer having serious public conversations.

Granted, public conversation has never been pristine, but there was certainly more of it decades ago, and it was very often of a higher quality. Back in the day, people actually read books and spent time thinking about what might be best. There’s quite little of that these days; mostly, people seek confirmation of their biases from sources that are likewise biased.

And so, I’d like to illustrate what a serious conversation would look like, if 2020 weren’t a dark carnival.

Late summer 2020, Anytown, USA: A small platform stands at the edge of a cornfield. A very average-looking person steps up to a microphone and speaks:

Friends,

I stand here, not to praise you, but to acquaint you with reality, at least as well as I am able. Perhaps that means I should be killed, or at least run out of town. But please allow me to address what no one else seems to, by asking the questions that really matter: Who are we? What do we want? Where should we be headed?

What we’ve been doing – praising ourselves or condemning everyone but ourselves – has blinded us to the greatest opportunity that has ever stood before a human generation: If we wanted to, we could quickly and easily step into a golden age. In fact, we’ve been doing just that, half by accident, for a long time. If we bothered to work at it, even halfheartedly, we’d go down in history as the generation that transformed humanity forever.

But perhaps most of us wouldn’t like that. And if so, that’s our choice to make. My objection is that no one bothers to talk about it.

I’d like for you, for just a few seconds, to take a look at two graphs, which I pulled out of Julian Simon’s The State of Humanity. The first graph shows how much wheat was not grown, because our production capacity is so much greater than our demand for wheat.

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This second one shows the price of wheat measured in wages.

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And I have others like these, for other commodities. They illustrate the same pattern.

There is one message that comes screaming through here, and it’s one that I know can be deeply troubling. Nonetheless, that message is true: Scarcity on planet Earth is dying.

I’ll pause to allow you a small freakout over that, to let all those prerecorded messages run screaming through your mind.

You see, our ruling systems have been built on the assumption of scarcity, and the idea that scarcity may be failing throws us into crisis.

Isn’t it odd that good news should upset us?

Scarcity, sadly, became more than a sad fact to us; it became a psychological necessity. But what if we no longer need to fight over resources? Is that a concept that we should rush to eliminate?

And in actual fact, there are fewer and fewer starving people all the time, and most of those are starving because of political distortions, not because of insufficient production technology.

All of this reminds me of a comment from Buckminster Fuller that I like to condense:

I decided man was operating on a fundamental fallacy: that he was destined to be a failure. I decided that man was, in fact, designed to be an extraordinary success. His characteristics were magnificent; what he needed was to discover the comprehensive patterns operating in the universe.

So, what if humanity is designed to be an extraordinary success? Why should this thought repel us, even before we honestly consider it?

You see, these are things we need to discuss.

Whether we like it or not, we’ve been stepping out of scarcity, and it seems to me that we should decide whether or not that’s a good thing.

Our problem – our real problem, if we can muster the courage to admit it – is that we’re living with space-age technology and bronze-age rulership. But we can get past this problem if we wish, and we can easily meet all of humanity’s basic needs… if we wish.

But perhaps we don’t want to. Maybe it’s more important to us that we should be the biggest dog in town and that everyone else should be a little yap-yap dog.

And if that’s the case, we need to admit it to ourselves. Perhaps we’ll decide that what we really need is to be the dominant dog, and that all the morality stuff we talk about – golden rules and loving our neighbors – was all juvenile blather; that what we really want is to dominate everyone else.

And if that’s the case, we should get busy rebuilding our civilization in the form of the Roman Empire. We should get serious about beating the hell out of everyone else… at least until a new Christ comes along (or perhaps just people who remember the old one) and convinces our subjects that there’s a better way to live.

But in the meantime, we could kick the crap out of a billion brown people for a century or two, minimum. That’s our choice to make, of course, I’m only suggesting that we be forthright about it.

So, my friends, let me conclude by saying this:

If what we really want is to be the big dog, to feast on the fact that we’re able to kick all the smaller dogs around, then let’s do it. Let’s go full-Caesar on ’em. Let’s conquer everything, steal what we like, and live it up.

Or, if that’s not what we really want, then let’s get the golden age started; let’s dump the hierarchies that steal half our earnings and devote themselves to keeping fear alive. Let’s build and plant and thrive; and let’s welcome others to thrive with us.

Thank you for not shooting me.

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12 Comments
Baba Looey
Baba Looey
September 17, 2020 11:31 am

It’s also very likely we’re reaching the zenith of a golden age for cheap calories too. A grand solar minimum combined with corporate jackboots takes care of the so-called population relatively fast. Let’s also not assume charity is a quality universally admired in all cultures. Sure, more food rots in locked dumpsters behind grocery stores than humans consume every day, but that’s not to say that all of us consider ourselves to be our brother’s keeper. I’m frankly tired of working my ass off while a very particular demographic tells me I’m evil and demands moar gibs while burning down what my ancestors built. So yeah, let it all fall down. Until we lose the dead weight around here, all that excess capacity and potential is just going to keep being wasted.

Anonymous
Anonymous
September 17, 2020 11:37 am

Tl:Dr — “Friends, the world is a complex place with billions of people, no two of which believe the same thing about anything. We’ve always been like this, and we’ll always be like this, but in the old days people had to do actual work for a living — plow fields, weld metal, cook supper, etc — and so you couldn’t BS for too long because pretty soon it would be obvious from the results that you were an idiot and lousy at doing anything, and people would learn to just ignore you. Or put you out of their misery, one way or another. In today’s world, there’s so much BS going on that passes for work, that people don’t have to show any actual competence at anything, as long as they can sound good on their blog or Twitter or Facebook or in the media, basically if these losers can get anybody to listen to them, the losers keep themselves from getting tarred and feathered because they can always say, ‘Here’s how to make the perfect world!’ and they blather and … well, talk is cheap, but it pays well. So why bother doing actual work if you can sound good and the money’s better?”

William Williams
William Williams
  Anonymous
September 17, 2020 7:21 pm

Indoor work, no heavy lifting. Sign me up!

Craven Warrior
Craven Warrior
September 17, 2020 11:47 am

The sad part is that it would be impossible to have such a conversation with the masses. 90% of them wouldn’t understand a word of what you said, particularly if you don’t spice with up with some f*** and sh** words.

Baba Looey
Baba Looey
  Craven Warrior
September 17, 2020 11:58 am

“I know shit’s bad right now, with all that starving bullshit, and the dust storms, and we are running out of french fries and burrito coverings. But I got a solution.” Pres. Camacho

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  Baba Looey
September 17, 2020 12:25 pm

I think they want us to beg for a Camacho. We lose if there’s no pushback.

Ignatius J Rielly
Ignatius J Rielly
September 17, 2020 12:29 pm

Technology advancements can change what is scarce and what isn’t, but they do not change human nature. We could have that conversation and even agree to some sort of utopian plan, but there would still be some assholes in the woodpile who who ruin it for everybody else while they go for some sort of personal advantage.

Lots of luck on coming up with a system that doesn’t get played by somebody. The founding fathers did their best, and we couldn’t keep it. Why couldn’t we? Human Nature. Religion tries to deal with it too, and bad actors play it also.

Auntie Kriest
Auntie Kriest
September 17, 2020 1:03 pm

What passes now for “political discourse” has devolved into a landscape of memes, “tweets” and Facefuck postings, including the all powerful emoji, for the social media aspect while the legacy media is almost the sole province of disinformation and putrid political propaganda.

Hardly anyone reads anymore, thaaaaank you public schools!, while most of the Lumpen receive their daily dose of idiocy, miscegenation messaging, and stupification from Tel Avi (v)sion.

“Mostly peaceful protests…” courtesy of what Paul Craig Roberts call the pressitutes.

DOn’t even get Auntie started on the print media in The Exceptional Nation – it is most appalling and disgusting. See The Grey Whore for details.

And do not even fucking dare to challenge the political pronouncements of the jeenyusses in the entertainment businesses- Sportsball, cinema, “music” either you White privileged RAYSSISS scum.

The political “debate” in the USSA, indeed across most of the world today, is as serious as a trip to Walmarkt or Walt Diznee World. Well controlled for everyone’s dream fulfillment and especially saaaaaafety (right you are, Eric Peters).

Chairman Mao, for all of his World record breaking butchery and murder at least told the truth about real political power – that it comes from the barrel of a gun.

Political discourse in America is an astonishingly bad and sad joke, reflective of its terminal status.

The Evil Fuckers can, however, say and do pretty much whatever the Hell they want. No discussion is necessary or will be tolerated, so shut the fuck up, serf.

Stucky
Stucky
September 17, 2020 2:41 pm

“And in actual fact, there are fewer and fewer starving people all the time.”

Fuck wheat.

If we converted all the world’s farmland to just wheat and corn we could easily feed 30 billion people. Yeah, let’s just eat wheat and corn … maybe our next stage of evolution will turn us into actual pigmen.

The author is under the impression that a full belly means that people aren’t starving. He does not understand that calories does NOT equal health. He does not understand that you can be both obese …. AND starving. Starving for nutrients that corn, wheat, and other shitfuk cheap grains don’t provide.

Frank
Frank
  Stucky
September 17, 2020 10:16 pm

You mean there’s more to a healthy diet beyond an extra serving of Cheetos and/or Wheaties?
Who knew 🙂

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
September 17, 2020 4:13 pm

Conversation is racissssss. Debates are racissssssss. Facts are racisssssss. Just shut up you doodie head racissssssss.

Panzerlied
Panzerlied
September 17, 2020 6:36 pm

Yeh, Paul, sounds like what your ilk has been doing to the rest of us for the last century, or two. There could be a conversation for starters, if those who decide what we see and hear would want to join in. But, alas, they’ve already shown their cards and aren’t interested in having a constructive conversation with the goyim.
No, Paul, we wouldn’t shoot you, but we might throw the Jew down the well.

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