Exclusive: Athlete Who Recovered From COVID Facing ‘Very Different Future’ After Second Dose of Pfizer Vaccine Triggers Myocarditis

Via Children’s Health Defense

In an interview with The Defender, Marie Follmer said no one warned her that her 19-year-old son — a healthy, elite athlete who had recovered from COVID — shouldn’t get the Pfizer vaccine because it would put him at greater risk of developing myocarditis.

Greyson Follmer, Ohio State University student.

Greyson Follmer, an Ohio State University (OSU) student, was an elite athlete and member of the university’s chapter of the Reserve Officers’ Training Corps (ROTC).

But, according to his mother, the 19-year-old from Ohio is looking at a very different future now, after he developed severe heart complications following his second dose of Pfizer’s COVID vaccine.

In an exclusive interview with The Defender, Marie Follmer said nobody warned her about the potential for increased risks of COVID vaccine-related adverse events for people like her son, who already had COVID and had acquired natural immunity.

Greyson has played sports since he was 4 years old. He was an athlete who played in the state soccer championship in high school and then went on to OSU and started college during the COVID pandemic. He also joined ROTC his freshman year and was very active — running several miles every day with heavy packs on his back.

Greyson was perfectly healthy and had no underlying conditions except for asthma — which didn’t affect his athletic abilities — and food allergies.

Like most students early on in the year, Greyson and his friends got COVID. Though most had no symptoms, Greyson experienced mild flu symptoms — though they were nothing like his post-vaccine symptoms, Follmer explained.

The university required students who had COVID to quarantine. It also required them to get a heart MRI before they could return to school. Follmer thought that was strange, but she made sure her son got one.

When the cardiac MRI came back it showed Greyson’s heart was enlarged with slight inflammation. The cardiologist thought it could be related to being an elite athlete, and signed a release for Greyson to return to school.

“He wasn’t 100%, but he was recovering. He was able to go skiing, return to ROTC and went on spring break,” Follmer said.

Follmer and her husband got vaccinated first with Moderna. When a friend of Follmer secured appointments for the kids to be vaccinated, she drove to OSU, picked up Greyson and told him he was going to get vaccinated.

Greyson received his first dose of Pfizer on April 16, and a second dose on May 7. After the first dose Greyson experienced minor symptoms, but his mother didn’t connect them to the COVID vaccine.

It was after his second dose that things really changed, Follmer said. Greyson experienced significant symptoms shortly after his second dose. Three times he was taken to Nationwide Children’s Emergency Hospital.

“My son feels like he’s having a heart attack 24/7,” Follmer said. “He now has high blood pressure, severe chest pains, back pain, elevated kidney levels, hypothyroidism, inflamed lymph nodes in different areas of his body, and he can’t work or exercise.”

Follmer said Greyson feels like he’s dying and has to sleep all the time. He likely won’t be able to go back to ROTC and doesn’t know if he will be able to return to school in August. Greyson experienced broken feet from soccer and said nothing compares to the chest pain he feels now.

“A perfectly healthy kid has gone downhill,” his mom said.

Doctors initially attributed the heart problems Greyson experienced in May, after the vaccine, to the COVID he had in September 2020. Believing he was a “long-hauler,” they referred her son to the Ohio COVID Clinic.

According to the Harvard Gazette, “COVID long-haulers” is a term used to describe those who continue to feel symptoms of COVID long after the expected recovery time. Patients tend to be younger, and in some cases, initially experienced only mild symptoms.

On June 15, Greyson was taken by emergency medicine services to Ohio Health. Follmer said she knew her son’s symptoms were connected to the Pfizer vaccine, but nobody knew how to help him.

Greyson has seen numerous doctors and specialists. His family has spent more than $12,000 in one month. Lab work is covered by insurance but his other treatments are not. Greyson is doing stem cell treatments, taking Ivermectin and numerous supplements to support his condition.

Doctors project it will take him two years to fully recover, though there’s no research or information on how to treat myocarditis brought on by a COVID vaccine.

In the meantime, Greyson can’t mow the grass, work or go to school. He walks around holding his chest and is in counseling to cope with the effects this has had on his life, his mother said.

Follmer said she’s not an anti-vaccine person, especially because she has a young daughter who could get sick. None of her children had ever had reactions to vaccines.

Follmer’s 11-year-old daughter is immunocompromised. Even though all of her children had been exposed to COVID, she thought she was protecting her daughter by having her son vaccinated.

Follmer explained:

“I think what’s frustrating to me right now is that nobody told me that if you have an enlarged heart or heart inflammation, don’t get the shot. Not one person ever told us this. I never would have thought in a million years my kid would get sick.

“I was ready to give my daughter the vaccine — she is going to be 12 in August and has one lung and a reconstructive airway. There is no way on this planet I would give her the vaccine now. Greyson’s twin brother will also not be getting the vaccine after seeing what his brother has gone through.”

Follmer said no one told her about reporting her son’s adverse reaction to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS). “If I hadn’t put it on Facebook and someone hadn’t told me to put it in VAERS, I would have never known to do it.”

Follmer said she has since reported her son’s adverse reaction to VAERS (ID1395886), but no one has followed up on her son’s case nor has the report been added to the system. She also tried calling the CDC to see if someone there could help them.

“I just want him better. That’s the bottom line,” Follmer said. I just want everyone to know — don’t be naive like I was and think that this can’t happen to your kids.”

Cardiothoracic surgeon warns against vaccinating people who’ve already had COVID

Dr. Hooman Noorchashm, a surgeon, immunologist and patient safety advocate, wrote several letters to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) shortly after the agency granted Pfizer and Moderna Emergency Use Authorization for their COVID vaccines.

In his letters, Noorchashm urged the FDA to require pre-screening for SARS-CoV-2 viral proteins in order to reduce COVID vaccine injuries and deaths.

Noorchashm also called on Pfizer and Modern to institute “clear recommendations to clinicians that they delay immunization in anyone recently recovering from COVID, as well as any known symptomatic or asymptomatic carriers — and to actively screen as many patients with high cardiovascular risk as is reasonably possible, in order to detect the presence of SARS-CoV-2, prior to vaccinating them.”

According to Noorchashm, it is scientifically established that once a person is naturally infected by a virus, antigens from that virus persist in the body for a long time after viral replication has stopped and clinical signs of infection have resolved.

When a vaccine reactivates an immune response in a recently infected person, the tissues harboring the persisting viral antigen are targeted, inflamed and damaged by the immune response.

“In the case of SARS-CoV-2, we know the virus naturally infects the heart, the inner lining of blood vessels, the lungs and the brain,” explained Noorchashm. “So these are likely to be some of the critical organs that will contain persistent viral antigens in the recently infected. Following reactivation of the immune system by a vaccine, these tissues can be expected to be targeted and damaged.”

In an interview with The Defender, Noorchashm said Greyson’s case reminded him of Everest Romney — the all-American basketball player who was hospitalized after his second dose of Pfizer for blood clots in his brain.

 

According to Noorchasm, both Romney and Greyson had acquired natural immunity because they’d been infected with COVID, and they likely did not stand to gain any benefit from a COVID vaccine.

Noorchashm explained:

“It’s a colossal error to vaccinate people who have had prior infections, and this is totally avoidable harm we are causing. Why are we rushing to vaccinate people who we know are immune and don’t stand to gain any benefit? If I do anything medically unnecessary to someone as a doctor, I’m opening them up to potential harm. If you’ve had a recent infection and you have viral antigens in your tissues, you can literally and immunologically cause tissue damage.”

Medical necessity is on the ground floor of everything doctors do in regards to safety, Noorchasm said. “If you want to be a safe hospital, doctor, practitioner or health agency you would not do anything that’s not necessary to people or fundamentally not beneficial. There’s only a probability of harm if there’s no medical necessity,” he said.

When asked specifically about myocarditis, Noorchashm said this is the original prediction and prognostication he made to the FDA.

Noorchashm said:

“We know that natural SARS CoV-2 virus can affect the heart. It can cause blood clots that can lead to heart attacks and strokes and myocarditis. The virus can trigger an immune response or inflammation to the heart. Anywhere the virus goes the immune system will target that tissue and cause problems. If you’ve had a prior infection and you have antigens in the tissues where the virus goes, like the heart, and you activate the immune response [with a vaccine], you’re going to activate damage.”

Noorchashm, who is pro-vaccine, said shots need to be spread out for people who are not immune and want to be vaccinated, and the FDA and CDC should think carefully about limiting the shot to one dose, especially in young people, or increasing the duration between first and second doses.

In his letter to the FDA, Noorchashm recommended actively screening as many patients with high cardiovascular risk as is reasonably possible, in order to detect the presence of SARS-CoV-2, prior to vaccinating them.

“If someone has a known history of COVID, there should not be any rush to get them vaccinated,” Noorchashm said. “That should be our national policy. If you’ve either had COVID, or you have laboratory evidence of immunity, you shouldn’t rush into getting vaccinated.”

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72 Comments
Joe
Joe
June 23, 2021 9:20 am

While an extremely tragic outcome for this young man, his mother did not perform her due diligence to thoroughly investigate the “VAX.” Then she wants to play the victim, “Nobody told me!!” The stupid, it burns. This time it’s more likely to kill.

Joe
Joe
  Joe
June 23, 2021 10:36 am

For the downvoters: She could be found guilty of aggravated child abuse, a felony. If it was a dog you would understand. Is that clear enough?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Joe
June 23, 2021 11:05 am

Except he’s probably 18+.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Anonymous
June 23, 2021 12:08 pm

Neither I nor you knew shit about the social and political world at 18. Parents can and do make or ruin their children’s lives. That is the essence and definition of parenthood. Joe, you are right, and you already knew that, but it’s nice to hear it from another human. I don’t shed a tear. This Gordian knot has been choking me my whole life. I need people who are my way of life and fuck everyone else.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  'Reality' Doug
June 23, 2021 1:00 pm

The obvious point is that his Mom can’t be charged with “child abuse” because, in the eyes of the law it was his decision. Take a chill pill.

Joe
Joe
  Anonymous
June 23, 2021 1:23 pm

Sure she can. You’ve never been served by “The Law”, have you.

A quote offered to me by a dirty cop, my uncle: “You can beat the rap, BUT YOU’RE GONNA GET THE RIDE!”

Wake up and smell the thorns.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Joe
June 23, 2021 2:33 pm

Have you all lost your marbles? Cheese fell off your crackers? He’s NOT A CHILD. Show me ONE CASE where a mentally competent an adult is ‘abused’ and it is called “Child Abuse” in a court of law.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Anonymous
June 23, 2021 3:11 pm

Your presumptions of textually secure, shared standards of law and order are sadly mistaken. This is the place to cure such a perspective. Might makes right. This is a police state. Narrative truth is not objective truth. Morality, patriotism, honor: these are the works of propaganda. Your model of the world does not come close to fitting the data.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
June 23, 2021 4:25 pm

Michael Jackson?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
June 23, 2021 1:47 pm

Narrow escape on that basis:

“I was ready to give my daughter the vaccine — she is going to be 12 in August and has one lung and a reconstructive airway.”

But I wonder if the college he attended required his vaccination?

Chris
Chris
  Anonymous
June 26, 2021 5:53 pm

Of course they did.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  'Reality' Doug
June 23, 2021 7:17 pm

Everybody had a chance to learn real quickly that their “vaccine” is not a vaccine. Their nomenclature represented a lie from the very beginning, and if they tell one lie, then they’re going to lie about every thing else. These people were living their little pseudo life, and I bet they weren’t the kind to come to places like this and get a good education.
Just about all of my cousins took this shit. They all have money out the wazoo and evidently think everything is all right. Well, when they die after a few years, they won’t matter anymore. How pitiful it is when people are knowingly ignorant and think everything is going to be okay. Those are the kind who will die in great piles as this construct known as The United States comes apart at the seams.

Chris
Chris
  Coalclinker
June 26, 2021 5:56 pm

I have a friend with numerous health issues so can only “handle so much.” She told me yesterday she only listens to The Today Show and Lester Holt. Do you think she is informed? Do you think she is the exception or the norm?

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Joe
June 23, 2021 12:26 pm

More importantly, I have had NO TROUBLE finding information on this plannedemic, masks, “vaccines,” and the bullshit that has been tossed around like facts. It takes having the courage to realize that possibly everyone you are supposed to trust is lying. Once you break through that veil, you discover that hundreds of thousands of well-educated folks are saying something completely different, and tens of millions more agree with them.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  MrLiberty
June 23, 2021 12:58 pm

“Once you break through that veil” — that’s the trick. In Red Pill parlance we call it unplugging. Can’t make someone unplug. They’ve got to be human and have got to trust their math to eliminate every other possibility and serious consider, gulp, being right in complete isolation. Hell of a world when vermin are in righteous violation of the Prime Directive. To be young when their political structure collapses, what a blessing for the man with mental and physical acument.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  'Reality' Doug
June 23, 2021 7:27 pm

I myself unplugged years ago when I looked into their Gorebull Warming bullshit. I know quite a bit about concepts such as heating and cooling degree days, and when I looked at their numbers it was all wrong. I decided that if everybody is telling an easily disproved lie, then someone really powerful was running the whole world, and the thing to do was to try to figure out their motives.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Coalclinker
June 24, 2021 1:05 am

I too investigated that BS as a rite of passage. The wealth transfer scheme was obvious, and the aspect of creating a global tax was worse.

Chris
Chris
  'Reality' Doug
June 26, 2021 6:23 pm

Yes, I do not understand how so many cannot see the Red Flags popping up everywhere, things that just don’t make sense that would encourage/force you to look further into this vs accept at face value. Worse still, friends and family that won’t even listen to those they supposedly love the most.

Chris
Chris
  MrLiberty
June 26, 2021 6:20 pm

Direct statement from my sister explaining why I could not attend a family event because I am not vaccinated. ” It was open to vaccinated family members. You chose not to and I am not sure why you have put your faith in the information sites you visit instead of reputable doctors and scientists. You have a science background, are a nurse and a cancer survivor. All these indicate that you are smart and have trusted science before. I love you and am worried about you. You need to watch normal stations like NBC or CBS instead of Fox…”

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Joe
June 23, 2021 1:25 pm

Couldn’t read past the first sentence.
When you get a particular virus (not variants), get sick, and then get better; you are thereafter immune to that virus. (There may be exceptions, but THAT’S the rule).

Marie Follmer is probably a nominally “well-educated” woman with an IQ measured to be somewhat above average. She is also a full blown retard and an unfit mother.

Gregabob
Gregabob
  Joe
June 23, 2021 11:39 pm

But the nice man on the TV said it was safe—my Doctor too! Even the President! He’s such a kindly old man, not like that mean Trump. My government would never lie to me or hurt me and mine, right? Right? /s

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
June 23, 2021 9:30 am

Crimes against humaity.

tangle
tangle
  Francis Marion
June 23, 2021 9:34 am

And crime committed by parents against their children.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  tangle
June 23, 2021 12:11 pm

These are not adult humans in the civilized or psychological sense. Crime is a cultural presumption. Nature will tease us but never deny herself.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  tangle
June 26, 2021 6:31 pm

This woman is not responsible for this, for believing her government and complying with the school requirements. My guess the school would not have accepted his Covid hx anyway. Fauci is not saying that either. I would not have let my kid get it but at this age, they may not listen to you. I have sent my kids everything I can find but have been told to stop as I was pushing them the other way. A friend with 19 y.o triplets did the same, but in an act of defiance, all 3 went out and got the injection..My friend is devastated. There are no warnings for the general John Q Citizen about this. He–, Fauci never even talked about boosting immunity through C, D, Zinc, etc.

tangle
tangle
  Anonymous
June 26, 2021 7:51 pm

I guess ignorance and laziness is an excuse. They do not have 20 minutes a weeks to read up in everything related to COVID and the shot, but can spend all day on their phone texting and facebooking everything.

All the warnings are and where there. But they have more important things to do that read/watch them.

tangle
tangle
June 23, 2021 9:32 am

You reap what you sow.

Nothing but the truth.
Nothing but the truth.
June 23, 2021 10:30 am

How many more vaccine deaths need to be reported before these blind , indoctrinated fools start to see a pattern and wake up ? They are nosebleedingly stupid to trust governments and big pharma with their wellbeing and health. Our dumbed down humanity will pay the ultimate price for their lack of vigilance and awareness.

motley
motley
  Nothing but the truth.
June 23, 2021 12:13 pm

People will never wake up. At what point, do the non-sheeple realize this themselves ?

Gregabob
Gregabob
  Nothing but the truth.
June 23, 2021 11:45 pm

Not sure the cognitive dissonance will allow them to wake up. The mother of the 13 year old kid that just croaked after his second shot was STILL telling other parents they should have their children get these kill shots. Mind boggling.

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 23, 2021 10:56 am

His drs. said it’ll take 2 years for him to return to normal. Cardiac cells that die don’t regenerate like many other body cell types. He probably has permanently impaired cardiac function to some degree.

Several comments made that mom should have done “due diligence” is a rather remarkable statement. No one can possibly know all there is to know on any given topic, let alone all possible topics. Society has established people with specific knowledge on topics. We call them experts, etc. We have trusted them to guide us in decision making since the beginning of time. Those that make the “due diligence” claim are no doubt guilty of failing their own standard of due diligence many times every day. Did you do your “due diligence” on the lettuce or hamburger you bought ? How about the presription meds you take. The repairs done on your car…. Ya get the point.
The govt agencies and all institutions that we could once depend on to be at least reasonably accurate have failed us miserably. Yeah, blame mom, not the criminals involved.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
June 23, 2021 11:13 am

Those that are effected early are especially susceptible. As their cells are continued to be exposed to this toxin they will not improve, they will get progressively worse at an unusually high rate. Because, their personal bio-chemistry for some reason makes them more susceptible. I’m Fraudchi knows why.

Joe
Joe
  Anonymous
June 23, 2021 11:25 am

What part of “Experimental Use Authorization” doesn’t set a RED FLAG for you? Especially as the young man had recovered from COVID-19 and was already immune.
Sheep are going to sheep.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Joe
June 23, 2021 12:12 pm

Welcome, Joe! Now that I’m worn out from trying to reach people, I pass the torch. Torch away.

Auntie Kriest
Auntie Kriest
  Joe
June 23, 2021 1:22 pm

Experimental, emergency use authorized, genetic modification therapy with nearly-verified magnetic nanoparticle feature added injection.

Clarity on what the fucking poison is is essential. Too bad the Evil Fuckers didn’t tell anyone before They started jabbing the general population, cause that IS the plan.

By the way, here’s that red flag Joe was mentioning :
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TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Joe
June 23, 2021 7:30 pm

My sisters and their husbands ( all but one with at least a bachelors degree) all got the jab and were shocked when I stated the “vaccine” had not been approved by the FDA. They all ass u me d that it was approved because the govt told them to take it.

Two if by sea. Three if from within.
Two if by sea. Three if from within.
  Anonymous
June 23, 2021 12:13 pm

Too bad Facebook aficionados aren’t able to get help from that platform regarding due diligence. Oh well.

Stucky
Stucky
  Anonymous
June 23, 2021 12:15 pm

“Several comments made that mom should have done “due diligence” is a rather remarkable statement. No one can possibly know all there is to know on any given topic, let alone all possible topics.”

.
Aaaaaand … TBP has a new Village Idiot!! Welcome aboard.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Stucky
June 23, 2021 2:51 pm

I recommend a new policy of particular anonymity. No ‘anon’ or ‘anonymous’. Where’s the accountability? I like accuracy in my muckraking. lol

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Stucky
June 23, 2021 7:32 pm

Every village needs one. I think Scranton may be missing theirs.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Anonymous
June 23, 2021 3:27 pm

Due diligence? When it comes to something that affects my health and well being then I had better damn well do ‘due diligence’ or else suffer the consequences. Do you buy a car without driving it first? Do you just grab a pair of shoes and not try them on? Do you just shovel drugs down your throat and not read the paper work that comes with them? Ever hear of caveat emptor?

Way too many people just accept crap at face value, if they see it on the tv then it must be true. They go to FB and read what others just like them are doing and they do it too.
I always read the fine print, I trust no meds or anything that I’m supposed to take on ‘faith.’ If you don’t do any research prior to testing or trying or taking something then you are an idiot and those who make excuses for stupid people are stupid themselves. It’s called self preservation, and common sense.

Stucky
Stucky
  Mygirl....maybe
June 23, 2021 5:47 pm

Hey! Don’t knock TV purchases. I bought 4 things because of TV infomercials;

— Ginzu knives (pieces of shit)
— Infrared counter-top oven (awesome)
— VitaMix (best kitchen appliance of all time)

There’s one more but I can’t remember what it is. Surely, you bought something because of teevee.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stucky
June 23, 2021 6:32 pm

“But wait, there’s moar!”

Ron Popeil and Billy Mays are the demi-gods of late night tel-avi…you know the rest, advertisements.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stucky
June 23, 2021 10:05 pm

Nope. Make a point not to buy anything on tv or in magazines.

Gregabob
Gregabob
  Stucky
June 23, 2021 11:57 pm

Bought a candy bar once after watching a TV ad for it….

Steve
Steve
  Mygirl....maybe
June 23, 2021 11:22 pm

I’m retired military. I just got an email flyer from the VA. The jab is safe and “normal testing has been done”…..etc..
It’s hard to know who or what to believe anymore for the AVERAGE folk. Unlike the enlightened found here😎

Gregabob
Gregabob
  Steve
June 24, 2021 12:00 am

It’s just too much for most people to believe their government is lying to them… they just can’t comprehend it.

Chris
Chris
  Steve
June 26, 2021 6:50 pm

Thank you. The virtue signalers are thick here today.

Gregabob
Gregabob
  Mygirl....maybe
June 23, 2021 11:55 pm

Yep–did some research on nebulizing H2O2, bought a nebulizer and the supplies, triple checked the procedure and concentration, tried it on myself, adjusted the concentration and tried it again–and THEN recommended it to my gal and family. Due diligence. Multiple sources of info. Critical thinking and common sense. All important if you want success.

Chris
Chris
  Anonymous
June 26, 2021 6:48 pm

I totally agree with you. We don’t check out the pilot flying our plane; we assume he has passed the necessary standards to be competent. The same goes for your anesthesiologist..You might check out your surgeon thoroughly but usually have no clue who is passing the gas.

I do not understand anyone reading this story then following the majority here by trashing the mother. Keeping us divided seems to be working. I’ve had this discussion with Drs I work with who only go by CDC recommendations so do not believe in Ivermectin, etc. so I’m certain if this mother asked her family doc what to do, he/she would have advised her to have her son get it. Even the medical journals that I have relied upon over the years are lying to us. All of the vax clinics do NOT ask if you have had Covid. “They” completely suckered the whole world on this pandemic nonsense, those who disagreed have been vilified, and now many of you want to put this on this mother! I suggest we stick to putting the blame where it belongs, figuring out to inform others without sounding like wackos ourselves and take it down a notch when others aren’t as “enlightened” as we are. This “know it all” attitude is not helpful.

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 23, 2021 11:05 am

You had the disease. You are immune. WTF people.

Yahsure
Yahsure
June 23, 2021 11:08 am

She should have read all those experimental vaccines are bad articles here on TBP. Sad article about people making bad decisions.

Stucky
Stucky
June 23, 2021 11:29 am

There are what …. THOUSANDS of such stories in the VAERs database?

But, two days ago Chlamydia Da Ho said the Shit Shot is very very safe and was “YEARS” (really) in development. And a quick shitfuk Google search still returns results claiming no one has gotten sick, let alone died, from the Shit Shot.

Lordy Lordy ….. I am torn regarding whom to believe. /s

KaD
KaD
June 23, 2021 12:02 pm

My guess is he isn’t going to get better. You allowed poison to be injected into a healthy person, there is no way to get it out of his body. He’ll be lucky to be alive in five years.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  KaD
June 23, 2021 1:06 pm

I’ve been forced to look at my power and what’s good for me since I am constantly deficient in ‘having a life’. It seems that men under 30 are the most dominant group having reaction heart inflammation on mNRA dose two. The futures on my sperm are going up a tad. Yes, women may be sterilized. I expect women jab more than men, but I have no hard data (as usual for more years than I’d like to count, get it?). The prion angle is what scares me. That shit does not go away. I can already see the quarantine culling on us deplorable cows. Oh, well. Can’t fix stupid or old age.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  'Reality' Doug
June 23, 2021 4:42 pm

RD…if I let my imagination run wild…I can envision something similar to the Handmaid’s Tale for the women who are unvaxxed and fertile. Baby farms 20+ years into the future…if we really want to get crazy.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Abigail Adams
June 23, 2021 5:04 pm

Crazy is all I have left to hope for, as in “let’s get crazy.” I mean the basic animal masculinities of rape, pillage, and kill that Ghengis Khan knew so well. The culling will lead to reproductive bliss for someone.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  KaD
June 23, 2021 3:40 pm

Myocarditis is forever. Heart muscle cells, unlike liver cells, do not regenerate. Up until the advent of the vaccines it was rare. Now it is becoming more common. A very rare heart condition is now affecting more people, especially healthy young men, but only after they get the ‘vaccines.’ Very strange.

What Can be Done to Prevent Myocarditis?
No lifestyle changes or medical treatments are known to prevent viral myocarditis.
Because myocarditis is rare, information is limited regarding its causes and effective treatments.
Myocarditis is not believed to be inherited. No genes are known to predispose people to myocarditis.

https://www.myocarditisfoundation.org/about-myocarditis/

Chris
Chris
  KaD
June 26, 2021 6:52 pm

Would you all just stop blaming this woman!

BUCKED/BUY MORE AMMO/BOURBON TOO
BUCKED/BUY MORE AMMO/BOURBON TOO
June 23, 2021 12:16 pm

I feel for the young man but even before the vaccines were rolled out there were folks throwing uo red flags about them .

What pisses me off about the mom is the typical line ,” I’m not anti-vaccine ” . Hell lady you better be when it comes to this mRNA Frakenjab . That’s like the bullshit you hear from anti-gun folks, “I’m not anti-gun,I’m a gun owner too. It’s just we need reasonable gun laws ( like taking all of your guns) “.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
June 23, 2021 12:23 pm

Nobody who ever got the measles, mumps, chicken pox, etc. ever knowingly got vaccinated for any of these diseases when the vaccines were produced and approved. Everyone knew how immunity works and they respected THIS TRUTH. Only an idiot would get him/herself injected with an experimental gene concoction as part of a global experiment if they had already had the disease. Not just because one already HAS antibodies, T-cells, etc. to fight any future exposures, but because in that age group there was NO REAL RISK TO BEGIN WITH!!!

This parent should be charged with child abuse, child endangerment, child neglect, and maybe even murder if his condition worsens to that degree.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  MrLiberty
June 23, 2021 1:05 pm

He’s 19 years old. In the eyes of the law his Mom has nothing to do with his decision. You think 18 is too young for such things, as I do too, but the talk on this thread against the Mother is not well placed.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Anonymous
June 23, 2021 3:01 pm

Age ain’t got nothing to do with it. The future Augustus was winning the allegiance of Caesar’s armies and imbezzling public funds at age 18. Joan of Arc led a French army at age 17. The issue is parenting, breeding, incentives, regulations, and ultimately competency. She pays the bills and is in control of his life. As the story is told, she decided.

Nearly all parents do not dismantle the because-I-said-so authority construct they built in their children’s minds, initially useful for children without adult brain structure, because they are shit parents, the norm. It is a neurosis to have that construct from puberty. The old you’re-an-adult-now mentoring.

Bitches be bitches. You are clearly ignorant blue pill. I can’t suggest Red Pill evolutionary psychology strongly enough for the intelligent; otherwise, you risk being IYI. Women have primitive sophistication, inbred capacity for psychological violence that is protected by the sell-out state puppets. There are no real men to pass on the prerequisite ideas of civilized manhood. If you get them from hard work in 50 years, you are way ahead of average, but even that level of excellence guarantees the (((string people))) win.

splurge
splurge
  MrLiberty
June 23, 2021 5:34 pm

Nobody who ever got the measles, mumps, chicken pox, etc. ever knowingly got vaccinated for any of these diseases when the vaccines were produced and approved

I think you’re wrong about this in that the military gave them to everyone coming through the door.

Chris
Chris
  MrLiberty
June 26, 2021 6:59 pm

Stop, just please stop! Not one word here blaming Fauci et al. “They” fooled the whole world. Give this woman a break. You’ve done your research here and so have I. I have spent hours on this subject but I still can’t get my siblings to listen to me. Not everyone has the time to research and just choose to believe. A dear friend couldn’t believe it months ago when I told her my opinion of Fauci. My Bunco group says I need the vaccine for the “greater good.” These are smart women who just seem to be lulled to sleep, but they couldnt stand that other guy cuz he sent “mean tweets.” Please don’t let this woman be the scapegoat here.We all need to stick together and be there for the one’s trying to wake up.

Stucky
Stucky
  Chris
June 26, 2021 7:44 pm

“Stop, just please stop! “

Go fuck yourself. People can say ANYTHING they want on this website. Who the fuck are YOU — a goddamned Newbie no less — to make demands? Stick your virtue signaling up you ass, and while you’re in that neighborhood, go eat a dick.

You say you don’t want this woman to “be the scapegoat here”. Oh, really, poop head? What about HER … the dumb twit playing the victim card because nobody told her!

She’s a fool. As are you.

My duties as as president of TBP Welcoming Committee are hereby fulfilled.

Joe
Joe
June 23, 2021 12:43 pm

One of my few respites from Bizzarro World is the predominant sympathies of TBPers: It’s your life. Take responsibility for it. Nobody is coming to save your ass.

Thanks Ladies and Gentlemen,

Joe

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Joe
June 23, 2021 1:12 pm

Let’s get to crux: It’s your life, take your privilege for it. Responsibility without privilege is to be a sucker of the corrupt. Take the privileges and let the enemy have the responsibilities. This is pencil-neck war.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
June 23, 2021 3:19 pm

I just had a thought. The younger the gene download recipient, the stronger the immune response, the stronger the harmful effects.

If I wanted the gene download to seem as safe as possible, and if I believed immune system vigor was proportional to risk, I would immunized old to young.

It sure looks like these fucks thought of everything.

Lulu
Lulu
June 23, 2021 4:35 pm

I hold the mother responsible. She didn’t investigate the safety of an experimental biological. Also, what moron doesn’t know you don’t get a vaccine for an infection you’ve already had? Feel bad for the kid that his mother probably shortened his life.

Chris
Chris
June 26, 2021 5:52 pm

No one of authority, i.e. CDC, Fauci, etc have told anyone this either. The schools, airlines, businesses etc do NOT make this distinction either. This is not the fault of this mother nor her son. If the school required it for him to participate, let’s start there re: liability cuz you know you can’t go after the vaccine makers. Maybe, some of these schools etc. would stop these ridiculous requirements if lawsuits were a possibility.