Is China planning to invade Taiwan in the near future? If so, will the U.S. come to Taiwan’s aid? Would a Trump second term have prevented Ukraine and potential Taiwan situations?
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Taiwan has no worries. Biden’s got their back. The country that lost to the Taliban will defeat China.
Good one IW!
So China having some sort of incursion™ into or around Taiwan— with at least 5 different sources coming to that conclusion already, I’d say it’s “baked into the cake” at this point. The question remains when?
Looks like the consensus is by Q4 of this year, some are saying perhaps as early as September when the monsoon rains die down.
While most are looking at some sort of engagement of China vs Taiwan, there may be other regions that see things go kinetic™ either prior to or in concert with the Taiwan incursion™ like against US bases in S Korea, Okinawa, Japan, or perhaps China would project power all the way out to the Philippine Sea, perhaps even hitting US military targets in the area as far out as Guam.
Another scenario is a military blockade of Taiwan where like LC says below Taiwan and their allied interest could pursue a Hong Kong style deal and then the blockade would be lifted.
Any of the above will have more than significant knock on effects on worldwide supply chains.
“more than significant knock on effects”? you mean total shutdowns. say goodbye to any meds you take.
We spend $955 Billion, 2,500 dead U.S. military, and twenty years to lose in Afghanistan to people still living in the 15th century, using weapons taken from the Russians in the 1990’s.
Chinese army? No problem. China has already won.
China is perceptive enough to realize that the US is chomping at the bit to put boots on the ground in Ukraine, so it will wait until that happens and the US has its hands full before launching their own effort.
I’ve been to Taiwan a dozen times. It’s a wonderful place with great, hard-working people. It saddens me to contemplate their likely future. I can’t for the life of me see any promising path for them that leaves them with their independence. I think staking their future on the sinking ship “USA” is a big mistake, since even the best-meaning help will end up with the country in a shambles. But what are their other choices?
The US will put boots -read as “official US military”- on the ground in Ukraine?
Why would they do that. A direct nuclear strike would have a slightly higher chance of a surprise effect, while US boots on Ukraine ground would also lead to guaranteed nuclear war.
Of course there will be real US soldiers in the Ukraine and elsewhere in Europe fighting. Have you not noticed that the war has already started and that is just the next step?
No.
The Taiwanese should negotiate a union with mainland China so they could get best terms possible and then protect themselves from Japan and the USA. Personally, I strongly suspect they will do that. When I had met with senior Taiwanese military and political figures that topic and strategy was discussed. This was over a decade ago, but suspect the very rational thinking of their senior officials hasn’t changed that much.
Ram, I suspect you’re right. China and Taiwan have so much trade in place already, it would make sense. And after all, they are all Chinese, aren’t they?
“they are all chinese?”
no. half of the taiwan population is native polynesian. they hate china and chinese, who have not treated them well. the other half is han chinese descended from the nationalists who fled with chiang kai shek to taiwan when they were defeated by the communists. they don’t want to be communist, but they’re still han. the two populations have merged into a single political entity, but the racial division remains.
You’re deluded
I read a headline about U.S. troops being sent into Kyiv to protect the embassy, so there’s the first group.
US special forces are in de facto control of Ukraine operations.
The French ex-soldier turned reporter has seen it and reported on it
extensively. If The Manchurian Moron and his teleprompter operator can’t get us into a world war with Russia, maybe they can get us into one with China.
Because in spite of their contrary rhetoric, it is Democrats always when we go to war, isn’t it? I guess one exception would be the Civil War, but even that depends on which side you look from.
No doubt, Taiwan sees the writing on the wall. They’ll cut a “Hong Kong Style” deal, which will give them 10 years or so until it suffers the same fate.
Lamont, I think you are right. Big China and Taiwan are watching the US slowly turn to shit. I’m even convinced Big China created the lockdowns in their country to worsen the supply chain crisis and cause more grief for Americans.
Consequently, Big China doesn’t need to invade Taiwan. They will just wait until the US is a complete disaster and Taiwan decides it likes its chances with the mainland rather than the corrupt and incompetent US. Taiwan will prefer to end up like Hong Kong rather than Ukraine or Afghanistan.
In ten years, probably less, the CCP is likely to become less restrictive. They are semi-forced into tight controls because of constant UK and USA meddling in their affairs.
“In ten years, probably less, the CCP is likely to become less restrictive”
communist societies never become less restrictive, unless they are collapsing and have no alternative. confucianist societies reject the very notion of becoming less restrictive.
I don’t think they are communists at all.
Did any of you listen to Mike Adams over the weekend? There seems to be an audio leaked of Chinese BigWigs discussing an American invasion. Not Taiwan, the mainland. This one…this one freaks me out, totally. Points of view and opinions are most welcome, especially from vets. My god…I hope he’s wrong. https://www.brighteon.com/05712eec-e295-4e73-ba8c-9309f0f540b4
Logic would dictate that the US has zero ability to invade the Chinese mainland. So they’ll probably try it.
Iska, she’s referring to China invading the US mainland. It was an interesting listen.
China invading the US mainland? I think I’ll sit this one out.
Do they have a thing for fat chicks or something? I think some of our black guys might have a problem with that.
It’s so crazy, it just might work. Thank God my sons will abrogate seven generations of unbroken military service when they identify as women to the draft board…
… at this point that’s the only viable action to take ….
I think identifying as women would put them INTO service. Have them identify as conservative. They’d be banned forever.
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Why would China risk nuclear war by invading the US when they can just play the long game and wait for us to implode. After 300 million+ die off, they can just waltz in and do as they please.
china does not have the logistics to invade anything at any significant distance. furthermore if any invasion of america did take place there should be an immediate and sustained nuclear response – if the government wasn’t in on it or bribed to ignore it. big if.
I keep telling people that. Oz is thousands of miles from China, and China has limited means of launching a long distance invasion. To invade the US is impossible, unless the wipe out the population first. Not going to happen.
“China has limited means of launching a long distance invasion”
militarily, yes. economically, politically, demographically, and cyber, they’re already here.
150 million American citizens with 400 million guns and a trillion rounds of ammunition would make the invasion problematic for the Chinese army. The same civilian Militia is why Japan never considered invading the Mainland U.S. during WW2.
The American Militia is also why the socialist Democrats are so determined to disarm us. We’re also a threat to them.
1.4 Billion Chinese citizens with millions of guns and trillions of rounds of a ammunition would make the re-invasion of Taiwan problematic for the American army.
Yes.
I think that all depends on what kick backs “the big guy” Biden will continue to give China. That dude and his crackhead son are so in bed with China that Xi has them by the balls. I am certain he hasn’t went into Taiwan yet simply because Biden is doing his bidding and will continue to do so to honor that agreement. Remember the disastrous Afghanistan withdraw? China is still profiting from that with the opening of Lithium mining there. The guy is a dirty bastard (Biden that is, but Xi too).
Seems they’re preoccupied with domestic issues at the moment. Don’t know what the lockdowns mean but they’re an indicator of something.
I think they are willing to inflict great pain and misery on their own people for goals such as political unrest in the USA over economic disruptions. People are their cheapest and most abundant resource.
It is obvious from the plandemic that Western governments are equally willing to spend the lives of their subjects for political or strategic goals.
Yes, and further more the US should be on high alert for possible invasion. We have squandered much of our military asset’s in the Ukraine and have to many navel asset’s sitting on the wrong shore’s with western state’s leadership that are absolute traders to our Country.
Not to mention that the invasion has already begun on the southern border.
Got that one right.
Not until they disengage from the Western economy. If China invades Taiwan, it must fear it would get the same treatment Russia is getting, including out and out theft of their assets abroad and cessation of all products imported from China. This would completely screw the west, of course, but that wouldn’t stop the geniuses in charge of us.
This is why China is incentivizing nationals to sell their foreign assets by blocking promotions.
Without a continuous stream of Chinese imports the USA would collapse within a few weeks. Just look at the ‘made in’ labels at any Home Depot, any Walmart, any store selling shoes or underwear. Every tire, every router & PC, every phone, every single thing that uses electricity. The US makes nothing but hollow debt and lots of grain & meat.
without a continuous stream of western payments the chinese ponzi economy would collapse within a few weeks.
and long-term they cannot grow enough food to feed their existing population.
Probably not any time soon, as long as Taiwan doesn’t put up a “Please invade us!” sign and declares independence.
Xi, when comparing notes with Putin now, likely realizes the Chinese military is not fully ready compared to Russia’s, in areas such as air defence and EW. And they have to check one more time (as they don’t have the test run experience with sanctions, as Russia did) with a very fine comb if any key industries depend on Western product or raw materials, which Russia cannot reasonably replace. So better wait another two years or so, if possible.
Also, it would be an amphibious assault, rather then over a land border. Lots of bad things can happen to troop transports in the open ocean.
But somehow that rule doesn’t apply to US floating objects, you know the ones “defending” Taiwan?
When things go hot around Taiwan, those US floating objects will become targets if FJB gets us involved
Does anybody remember this? It took about ten seconds to look back up.
Milley admits he would tell Chinese general if US launched an attack
By Mark Moore
September 29, 2021
https://nypost.com/2021/09/29/milley-admits-he-would-tell-china-if-us-launched-an-attack/
China believes in war by any means; whether declared or not. We are already at war.
And the latter is because we don’t believes in war by any means?
If there’s any places we should bomb into oblivion they are the City of London Corporation, Frankfurt, NYC, Tel Aviv, and DC. Make a desert of them all and call that peace. Then we can deal with subsidiary problems and start to repair the rot from within.
… and Davos — but do it within the next 72 hours …
why frankfurt?
Center of German banking and one of world’s major money laundering and global influence centers. I forgot Basel.
I didn’t know hookers made that kind of money.
They don’t have to invade Taiwan. They are more likely to get permission from the Norks to pass through and overrun S. Korea while the Norks keep Japan neutral with the threat of nukes. More goodies in S. korea than Taiwan and Taiwan are mostly Mandarin speaking Han.
That is a possibility. I think SK may be tougher than people think, however.
Possibly but the red hordes only have to threaten to tie up the US. The S Koreans have a lot more against the Japanese than they do China so they may be persuaded to switch allegiances from the US to China when they see signs of collapse of power projections around the globe. Knowing that if the us is forced to defend both plus maintain the other global fronts, things can break down in a hurry. Also there are few risks overland compared to an amphibious invasion.I spent 3+ years in the orient and they aren’t reckless like us. The two parties,, Taiwan and SK may decide to negotiate and then in the future renegotiate upwards as orientals are known for doing. Today’s price is no guarantee for tomorrows price over there. It’s how strong your hand is that day. China would love to have all their infrastructure and skills intact but with china the main buyer in the region instead of build back better. In the absence of the petro fiat that will be a thing of the past anyway. It’s only possible with inflated petro dollars.
Just having one of my rare what if moments. I normally avoid idle speculation parties but my nurse spiked my Pablum.
An invasion of Taiwan would be quite costly to China. Their ports would be hit hard by Taiwan’s missiles and any invasion force would have to be amphibious, subjecting the transports to torpedoes and/or missiles.
China will continue to wear them down with daily incursions into their airspace and like Lamont says, they will strike a deal.
Possibly China might use a naval blockade and attempt to starve them out.
“IS CHINA INVADING TAIWAN IN THE NEAR FUTURE?”
yes. china’s financial bubble is worse than that of the united states. when it collapses the chinese communist party ruling class families will start the war in order to blame the economic depression and suffering on the war and thus stave off being overthrown.
Excellent satire.
I wonder how many biolabs will be found there also? Notice that when China announced the existence of over 300 US labs around the world, it did not mention where the labs are………..yet.