US professor offers Nord Stream theory

Via Azerbaycan24

Bloomberg hosts scrambled to stop Jeffrey Sachs as he laid blame for the pipeline explosion File photo: Gas emanating from a leak on the Nord Stream 2 pipeline in the Baltic Sea on September 27, 2022 © Swedish Coast Guard/Handout via Getty Images

Economist Jeffrey Sachs speculated on Monday that the sabotage of the Nord Stream pipelines was the work of the US and maybe Poland, to the chagrin of Bloomberg TV hosts who quickly tried to change the subject. Now a professor at Columbia University, Sachs became notorious in Russia for masterminding the “shock therapy” reforms in the 1990s – but has been sharply critical of the West’s approach to the conflict in Ukraine in recent months.

Invited to Bloomberg’s ‘Surveillance’ show on Monday, Sachs was asked to comment on Russia he “knew so well” under President Boris Yeltsin. Instead, the hosts scrambled to cut him off after he said the conflict is “on the path of escalation to nuclear war” and did not start in February 2022.

“Most of the world doesn’t see it the way we describe it,” Sachs told Bloomberg’s Tom Keene, at which point co-host Lisa Abramowicz tried to change the subject to inflation in Europe.

The EU is in a “very sharp economic downturn,” Sachs agreed. The continent was “getting hammered” by energy shortages, made worse by “the destruction of the Nord Stream pipeline which I would bet was a US action – perhaps US and Poland,” he managed to add before Keene cut him off, asking for evidence of that claim.

“Well first of all, there’s direct radar evidence that US helicopters, military helicopters that are normally based in Gdansk, were circling over this area. We also had the threats from the US, earlier in this year, that ‘one way or the other, we are going to end Nord Stream.’ We also have the remarkable statement by [US] Secretary [of State Antony] Blinken last Friday in a press conference; he says ‘this is also a tremendous opportunity.’ Sorry, it’s a strange way to talk if you’re worried about piracy on international infrastructure of vital significance,” Sachs retorted.

Western media says Russia blew up Nord Stream. But why would Moscow destroy pipelines it spent billions of dollars building?

“I know this runs counter to our narrative, you’re not allowed to say these things in the West, but the fact of the matter is – all over the world, when I talk to people, they think the US did it,” he added.

Abramowicz again tried to change the subject, saying Bloomberg couldn’t provide “counterbalance” to what he was saying. Undeterred, Sachs answered the next question by describing the current situation as “the most dangerous moment since the Cuban Missile Crisis” in 1962, with the US picking fights with both Russia and China, without any attempts to de-escalate things.

Currently director of the Center for Sustainable Development at New York’s Columbia University, Sachs gained notoriety among the Russians for his “shock therapy” reforms in 1991-1993. The overhaul of the entire Soviet economy ended up destroying the lives of millions of Russians and handing the country’s wealth over to a handful of oligarchs. (RT)

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24 Comments
Ghost
Ghost
October 4, 2022 7:31 am

Is this professor tenured? I think he just lost his teaching position.

flash
flash
October 4, 2022 7:41 am

Once upon a time, we all believed…

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flash
flash
October 4, 2022 7:47 am

Don’t even need to check his early life..

Currently director of the Center for Sustainable Development at New York’s Columbia University, Sachs gained notoriety among the Russians for his “shock therapy” reforms in 1991-1993. The overhaul of the entire Soviet economy ended up destroying the lives of millions of Russians and handing the country’s wealth over to a handful of oligarchs. (RT)

flash
flash
  flash
October 4, 2022 8:27 am

Capitalism is weeding out the weak in favor of the strong, bruh. If you ain’t got the capital to be in muh free market , then fuck off and die, loser. Ain’t nobody got time for you. We gots to get our shekkles too.

Post-Communist states
Nearly all the post-Soviet states suffered deep and prolonged recessions after shock therapy,[26] with poverty increasing more than tenfold.[27] The resulting crisis of the 1990s was twice as intense as the Great Depression in the countries of Western Europe and the United States in the 1930s.[28][29] The hypothesized one time jump in prices intended as part of shock therapy actually led to a lengthy period of extremely high inflation with a drop in output and subsequent low growth rates.[26] Shock therapy devalued the modest wealth accumulated by individuals under socialism and amounted to a regressive redistribution of wealth in favor of elites who held non-monetary assets.[19]

The cost to human life was profound, as Russia suffered the worst peace time increase in mortality experienced by any industrialized country.[10] According to Kristen Ghodsee and Mitchell A. Orenstein, a significant body of scholarship demonstrates that the rapid privatization schemes associated with neoliberal economic reforms did result in poorer health outcomes in former Eastern Bloc countries during the transition to capitalism, with the World Health Organization itself stating “IMF economic reform programs are associated with significantly worsened tuberculosis incidence, prevalence, and mortality rates in post-communist Eastern European and former Soviet countries.”[30] They add that Western institutions and economists were indifferent to the consequences of the shock therapy they were advocating as their priorities included permanently dismantling the state socialist system and integrating these countries into the emerging global capitalist economy,[31] and that many citizens of the former Eastern Bloc countries came to believe that Western powers were deliberately inflicting this suffering upon them as punishment for defying Western ideals about liberal democracy and market economics.[32]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_therapy_(economics)

Anonymous
Anonymous
  flash
October 4, 2022 8:48 am

Shock therapy is the result of too much government spending without taxes to fund it. What happened there will happen to Europe and eventually here.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  flash
October 4, 2022 10:53 am

flash,
considering that he doesn’t seem to be on the reservation,was he a useful idiot 4 the big oligarchs,or did russia herself allow the takeover?

Ginger
Ginger
October 4, 2022 9:41 am

‘to the chagrin of Bloomberg TV hosts who quickly tried to change the subject.’
If only Jeffrey Sachs had speculated that it was extremely gifted transsexual saboteurs and used the proper pronouns the host would have been all ears.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Ginger
October 4, 2022 10:20 am

That’s what they get for having a guest who’s not a past or current member of the US Military Industrial Complex. They won’t make that mistake again. “Get John Brennan on the phone!”

TampaRed
TampaRed
October 4, 2022 10:55 am

in 2015 an unidentified underwater drone was found wedged against the pipeline w/it’s control cable missing–

The Duke of New York
The Duke of New York
October 4, 2022 12:08 pm
m
m
October 4, 2022 12:47 pm

Pepe Escobar announced:

Confirmed by Gazprom:
Line B of Nord Stream 2 was NOT damaged by Pipeline Terror last week.

B.S. in V.C.
B.S. in V.C.
October 4, 2022 1:03 pm

Who had the most to gain, probably not Russia, which leaves….

Just Sayin'
Just Sayin'
October 4, 2022 1:18 pm

Y’all do know that LNG is required to be at -260F in order to remain “liquid” right? You also know that the pipeline was several hundred feet below the water (i.e. majorly pressurized). Well I bet you didn’t know that without constant vigilance and maintenance that LNG can actually form solid “plugs” within the pipeline, especially when product is not moving. When Russia shut down these pipelines, they didn’t depressurize them…..you can’t when they are under deep water because the pipeline risks collapse under pressure.

Sooooooo. Long story short. It’s likely that the Ruskies, not known for stellar maintenance, were attempting to free up these ‘plugs’ within the pipeline. There’s a couple ways to do this, steady CAREFUL depressurization from both sides or steady VERY CAREFUL depressurization from one side. If you do the latter you risk the plug coming free and becoming a projectile down the depressurized side of the line, essentially becoming a “solid LNG cannonball”, said cannonball impacts with a bend in the pipeline and Kaboom!

Could someone have “sabotaged” the pipeline? Sure, but my money is on poorly trained Ruskies performing a VERY RISKY maintenance procedure in a half-assed manner. Chernobyl much? LOL

Just Sayin’

B.S. in V.C.
B.S. in V.C.
  Just Sayin'
October 4, 2022 2:19 pm
Anonymous
Anonymous
  Just Sayin'
October 4, 2022 2:34 pm

Even if what you say were the case, four separate breaches due to “accidents” is implausible.

BTW, the outside pressure is not enough to collapse the pipes, even empty. If it was, they would collapse during installation when they hold zero pressure.

Too many have “a little knowledge” and think they are experts.

Just Sayin'
Just Sayin'
  Anonymous
October 4, 2022 2:49 pm

https://www.welker.com/freeze-protection-for-natural-gas-pipeline-systems-and-measurement-instrumentation/

Dumbass. But since you post an Anon that goes without saying.

Just Sayin’

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Just Sayin'
October 4, 2022 4:29 pm

OK you ignorant fuckwit. Your link refutes nothing I said. It also only supports that ice blockages do occur. It does not explain four such events happening near simultaneously either.

Just sayin’, you are arrogantly ignorant. Run along now fuckwit.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
October 5, 2022 2:42 pm

The pipe line is steel encased with reinforced concrete capable of withstanding an Aircraft carrier dragging its anchor over it so …
Why was a P8 hanging around with the ability to hit a postage stamp from high altitude with a torpedo ?????
Just a coincidence ya sure OK

m
m
  Just Sayin'
October 4, 2022 2:57 pm

You’re so friggin stupid.
Gas pipelines transport gas in gaseous form, not as LiquifiedNG.

Jdog
Jdog
  Just Sayin'
October 4, 2022 5:12 pm

You have no idea what you are talking about. Gas is not transported in pipelines as LNG you idiot. What do you think the whole pipeline is refrigerated? What a assclown.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Just Sayin'
October 5, 2022 2:36 pm

60 meters times 2.8 equals 168 feet . Even a scuba diver can easily reach that depth now factor in military training in UDT and nitrox tables and 💥 easy …

Sen. Cornynholio
Sen. Cornynholio
October 4, 2022 7:52 pm

The climate cult did it !!! Why, you may ask? To delay the ground freezing in insane, I mean Ukraine! Since releasing massive amounts of methane will surely result in immediate extreme temperature increases, the ground won’t freeze and paradoxically neither will the people of the EU !!!! We should all celebrate with illuminations, large bonfires for our ruling classes, who shall be consumed in the flames, HIP HIP HOORAY !!!
So sayeth I, The Great Cornynholio.

Anonymous
Anonymous
October 4, 2022 9:08 pm
m
m
  Anonymous
October 5, 2022 3:31 am

They probably posted thousands of divers as well…