An interview with Marc Cohodes, the investor who called the FTX/Sam Bankman-Fried collapse BEFORE it happened

Guest Post by Alex Berenson

PART 1: How Marc realized FTX was a grift when (almost) no one else did

(FIRST OF TWO PARTS)

One reason last month’s collapse of the cryptocurrency exchange FTX fascinates me is that cryptocurrencies are the financial world’s version of mRNA vaccines.

Both were promoted as new, superior technologies, gifts of the Information Age.

Both made fortunes for a few lucky people, who insisted they were merely serving humanity as they raked in billions.

Both basked in media hype despite obvious red flags.

And both have had… less than perfect results.

A few months ago, Sam Bankman-Fried, the founder of FTX, was supposedly worth $26 billion. Today he claims to be down to his last $100,000, likely the fastest loss of this level of wealth anyone has ever had.

Shed no tears for Bankman-Fried. Millions of ordinary people who put money in FTX may have lost as much as $8 billion.

(SBF, as he is known, says he wants to make those investors whole. Yet he remains ensconced in the Bahamas, instead of returning to the United States, where he might face arrest.)

Bankman-Fried fooled almost everyone on his way up.

Sequoia Capital, one of the world’s top venture capital firms, which put $214 million into FTX. The financial media fell for him too. In August, barely three months before FTX collapsed, Fortune magazine ran a glowing cover story of SBF, headlined, “The Next Warren Buffett?”

But independent investor and former hedge fund manager Marc Cohodes wasn’t taken. Cohodes warned about FTX earlier and more loudly than almost anyone else.

20/20 hindsight is easy. Being right when everyone else is wrong isn’t.

I’ve been fortunate to know Cohodes for almost 25 years. In 2001, I profiled him for The New York Times.

So I called Cohodes and asked him to explain, ideally in non-technical terms, why he’d been so certain FTX and SBF were bound for doom.

Sure, he said.

Cohodes is, as he would put it, an interesting cat.

He has spent nearly his entire career short-selling. “Long” investors buy companies whose prices they expect to rise. Short-sellers look for companies that are overvalued. They borrow stocks they do not own and sell them, hoping to buy them back later at a lower price.

By its nature, short-selling attracts the contrarian and thick-skinned. Stock markets generally rise over time as the overall economy expands, and most people want to invest in companies that are growing. Short-sellers have both fundamentals and psychology working against them.

But shorts play a crucial role in markets by rooting out deceptive managements and outright frauds. One reason that FTX may have grown so quickly and caused so much harm was that shorting it was essentially impossible, so its hype machine had no opponents.

Almost no opponents.

Cohodes likes a good fight. Sometimes he seems to want one. (My article about him in 2001 began, “Marc Cohodes, the highest-profile short-seller on Wall Street, is getting bored.”)

In 2017, he went at a company called MiMedx so hard that two Federal Bureau of Investigation agents visited him at his house and told him to lay off.

The attempt to intimidate him backfired. Two MiMedx executives were later convinced of fraud and sentenced to a year in prison, and Cohodes remains infuriated about the FBI’s house call.

In comparison, FTX was straightforward, Cohodes says. He first became interested in the company in early 2022.

Prices of digital assets like Bitcoin had soared when Covid hit, thanks to the cash infusions that central banks pumped into the financial system to help limit the economic effect of lockdowns.

But as lockdowns finally ended, investors realized that the extra cash had created inflationary pressures. Central banks would have to “pull the punch bowl,” removing money from the system and squeezing financial assets. Prices of Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies began to plunge.

 

But FTX – whose business should have been hurt as the overall cryptocurrency market collapsed – didn’t behave as Cohodes expected. Instead of retrenching to ensure his company would survive until the market turned sunnier again, Bankman-Fried went on an investment spree.

That move got Cohodes’s attention. And not in a good way.

Italics are Cohodes’s own words:

What really got me was when crypto collapsed, you had the bear market of crypto, the crypto winter… All these companies were going under… What tipped me was this guy was throwing money to try to bail these guys out in front of bankruptcy… How stupid could this guy be… [The financial channel CNBC] called him the J.P. Morgan of crypto –

CNBC – which Cohodes calls the Cartoon Network – was referring to Morgan’s famous 1907 effort to stop a bank run and stock market crash by putting his own credit behind weaker banks. But Morgan made sure he knew the banks he backed were solvent. They faced temporary shortfalls because panicked depositors were pulling cash, but their underlying loans were to real companies and solid.

In contrast, Bankman-Fried’s decision to step in to buy junk crypto companies was simply throwing good money after bad, Cohodes said.

Why is he taking real money and bailing these frauds out… What you should do is let them fail and them pick up the pieces… This just didn’t make any sense, it didn’t make any sense –

So Cohodes decided to look at Bankman-Fried and the rest of the FTX executives and management team.

They were glorified interns, they had no experience, they had no exchange experience, they had no capital markets experience… which led me to believe this is a giant fraud…

I figured he was putting money in because there was either collateral damage he was worried about or there was contagion… As it turns out, he [SBF] was worried about these scam tokens they put out.

Tokens are digital “coins” that anyone can create. They can be backed by anything. FTX’s tokens, called FTTs, were designed to give their holders a share of FTX’s future revenues, making them a little like shares in FTX, except with fewer rights and protections.

Tokens can be traded for other tokens or sold for “fiat currency” like dollars. FTX’s underlying business was to offer people to buy and sell these tokens as well as use other, more exotic financial instruments to bet on their future value.

In other words, FTX created a “currency,” FTT. Then FTX, which was based in the Bahamas, provided an “exchange” where FTT coins could be traded.

Not surprisingly, this setup gave FTX and Alameda, a hedge fund affiliated with FTX which Bankman-Fried also owned, powerful control over the price of the FTT tokens – at least in the short run.

Tokens for crypto – it’s a completely manipulated market… It’s a completely different world… He paid Tom Brady in these tokens, he gave out these tokens, but the tokens were a completely manipulated market.

FTX’s collapse highlighted the lack of protections for investors in cryptocurrencies, Cohodes says, a problem that runs deeper than a single bad company. American financial regulators are far from perfect, as the banking crisis of 2008 and the technology stock collapse of 2000 prove. But they offer some protection against outright fraud and theft.

You cannot trust any of the shit that’s offshore, I wouldn’t trust any offshore exchange.

But [FTX] was the biggest, the most unorganized, the most leverage… It wasn’t in my mind one thing, it was everything… Enron owned power plants, Sunbeam, which was a fraud, the products worked… Normally the score is 8 to 3 or 8 to 5, it’s not 8 to 0. [With FTX], nothing worked.

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flash
flash
December 2, 2022 7:23 am

ha ha ha…the first my ass. It’s all a grift. bruh. WTFU

The genius of the bankman is to live off people; not off land, nor off the production of commodities from raw material, but off people. Let other people till the soil; the bankman , if he can, will live off the tiller. Let other people toil at trades and manufacture; the bankman will exploit the fruits of their work. That is his peculiar genius. If this genius be described as parasitic, the term would seem to be justified by a certain fitness.
Henry Ford
(The International Bankman , November 13, 1920)

“People who will not turn a shovel of dirt on the project, nor contribute a pound of material, will collect more money, from the United States, than will the people, who supply all the material and do all the work. This is the terrible thing about interest (usury) … But here is the point: If the nation can issue a dollar bond, it can also issue a dollar bill. The element that makes the bond good, makes the bill good, also. The difference, between the bond and the bill, is that the bond lets the money-broker collect twice the amount of the bond, and an additional 20%. Whereas the currency, the honest sort, provided by the Constitution, pays nobody, but those, who contribute in some useful way. It is absurd, to say that our country can issue bonds, and cannot issue currency. Both are promises to pay, but one fattens the usurer and the other helps the people. If the currency issued by the people were no good, then the bonds would be no good, either. It is a terrible situation, when the Government, to insure the national wealth, must go in debt and submit to ruinous interest charges, at the hands of men, who control the fictitious value of gold. Interest is the invention of Satan.” Thomas A. Edison

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
December 2, 2022 7:36 am

There’s no money trail? 8 billion dollars in, but we are supposed to believe it vanished? Banks kept no records either I suppose?

There is no story too far-fetched for them to spin. Amazing really.

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  hardscrabble farmer
December 2, 2022 12:05 pm

It gets better:
There is not a single indictable offense by SBF either!

RiNS
RiNS
December 2, 2022 8:25 am

8 billion can’t be found or the whole fucken thing burns to the ground..

especially when if I go to the bank to get cash I am asked 20 questions as if I’m taking out a loan.

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  RiNS
December 2, 2022 9:19 am

If you want to whiz in the mess kit of the banker, simply take a counterfeit pen with you and check the bills in front of them before you accept them. You won’t believe the response you will get.

Anthony Aaron
Anthony Aaron
  2 of 5
December 2, 2022 4:36 pm

A couple of years ago I asked for a large withdrawal from my checking account … about $2,000. They gave me a tiny stack of $100s … and I asked them to verify that they were not counterfeit. They wouldn’t do that … it was not their policy …

B_MC
B_MC
December 2, 2022 10:07 am

FTX Didn’t Buy Bitcoin for Clients – Just Took Their Money

Billions of dollars were shared with FTX with the belief that FTX was in turn investing the money in cryptocurrencies requested by the purchaser.

However, SBF shared what we now all know already. FTX didn’t take customers’ money and invest in Bitcoin, it just took the money.

Former FTX CEO – Sam Bankman-Fried – Admits FTX Didn’t Buy Bitcoin for Clients – Just Took Their Money (VIDEO)

morongobill
morongobill
December 2, 2022 10:08 am

Here is the interview link below. Actually about the 31 minute mark, Cohodes goes on about having a 19/20 run against ceo’s that wear wigs. Hilarious! I suggest listening to that which segues into the rant against FTX.

https://app.hedgeye.com/insights/122943-marc-cohodes-ftx-is-dirty-rotten-to-the-core-hedgeye-investing-s?type=guest-interviews

B_MC
B_MC
December 2, 2022 10:58 am

Let’s see how the game is played….

From Wikipedia….

Corzine was subpoenaed to appear before a House committee on December 8, 2011, to answer questions regarding 1.2 billion dollars of missing money from MF Global client accounts. He testified before the committee, “I simply do not know where the money is, or why the accounts have not been reconciled to date,” and that given the number of money transfers in the final days of trading at MF Global, he didn’t know specifics of the movement of the funds. He also denied authorizing any misuse of customer funds…

On January 5, 2017, Corzine and the CFTC agreed to a settlement order requiring Corzine to pay a $5 million penalty for his role in MF Global’s collapse.

Did Jon Corzine go to jail? Nope. Was Corzine a huge Democrat bundler? Yep.

RiNS
RiNS
December 2, 2022 1:10 pm
Anonymous
Anonymous
December 2, 2022 6:22 pm

Lesson #1: Don’t trust Jews

Lesson #2: Don’t trust Jews

Joos are out to steal what you have — and they are highly skilled in deception and trickery

A friend of Sam Bankman-Fried -Jew boy, named Peter Singer — another Tribesman, believes that “animal rights” and “ethics” means that having sex with dogs and other animals is perfectly fine.