Decline of Empire: Parallels Between the U.S. and Rome, Part I

Guest Post by Doug Casey

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As some of you know, I’m an aficionado of ancient history. I thought it might be worthwhile to discuss what happened to Rome and based on that, what’s likely to happen to the U.S. Spoiler alert: There are some similarities between the U.S. and Rome.

But before continuing, please seat yourself comfortably. This article will necessarily cover exactly those things you’re never supposed to talk about—religion and politics—and do what you’re never supposed to do, namely, bad-mouth the military.

There are good reasons for looking to Rome rather than any other civilization when trying to see where the U.S. is headed. Everyone knows Rome declined, but few people understand why. And, I think, even fewer realize that the U.S. is now well along the same path for pretty much the same reasons, which I’ll explore shortly.

Rome reached its peak of military power around the year 107, when Trajan completed the conquest of Dacia (the territory of modern Romania). With Dacia, the empire peaked in size, but I’d argue it was already past its peak by almost every other measure.

The U.S. reached its peak relative to the world, and in some ways its absolute peak, as early as the 1950s. In 1950 this country produced 50% of the world’s GNP and 80% of its vehicles. Now it’s about 21% of world GNP and 5% of its vehicles. It owned two-thirds of the world’s gold reserves; now it holds one-fourth. It was, by a huge margin, the world’s biggest creditor, whereas now it’s the biggest debtor by a huge margin. The income of the average American was by far the highest in the world; today it ranks about eighth, and it’s slipping.

But it’s not just the U.S.—it’s Western civilization that’s in decline. In 1910 Europe controlled almost the whole world—politically, financially, and militarily. Now it’s becoming a Disneyland with real buildings and a petting zoo for the Chinese. It’s even further down the slippery slope than the U.S.

Like America, Rome was founded by refugees—from Troy, at least in myth. Like America, it was ruled by kings in its early history. Later, Romans became self-governing, with several Assemblies and a Senate. Later still, power devolved to the executive, which was likely not an accident.

U.S. founders modeled the country on Rome, all the way down to the architecture of government buildings, the use of the eagle as the national bird, the use of Latin mottos, and the unfortunate use of the fasces—the axe surrounded by rods—as a symbol of state power. Publius, the pseudonymous author of The Federalist Papers, took his name from one of Rome’s first consuls. As it was in Rome, military prowess is at the center of the national identity of the U.S. When you adopt a model in earnest, you grow to resemble it.

A considerable cottage industry has developed comparing ancient and modern times since Edward Gibbon published The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire in 1776—the same year as Adam Smith’s Wealth of Nations and the U.S. Declaration of Independence were written. I’m a big fan of all three, but D&F is not only a great history, it’s very elegant and readable literature. And it’s actually a laugh riot; Gibbon had a subtle wit.

There have been huge advances in our understanding of Rome since Gibbon’s time, driven by archeological discoveries. There were many things he just didn’t know, because he was as much a philologist as an historian, and he based his writing on what the ancients said about themselves.

There was no real science of archeology when Gibbon wrote; little had been done even to correlate the surviving ancient texts with what was on the surviving monuments—even the well-known monuments—and on the coins. Not to mention scientists digging around in the provinces for what was left of Roman villas, battle sites, and that sort of thing. So Gibbon, like most historians, was to a degree a collector of hearsay.

And how could he know whom to believe among the ancient sources? It’s as though William F. Buckley, Gore Vidal, H. L. Mencken, Norman Mailer, and George Carlin all wrote about the same event, and you were left to figure out whose story was true. That would make it tough to tell what really happened just a few years ago… forget about ancient history. That’s why the study of history is so tendentious; so much of it is “he said/she said.”

In any event, perhaps you don’t want a lecture on ancient history. You’d probably be more entertained by some guesses about what’s likely to happen to the U.S. I’ve got some.

Let me start by saying that I’m not sure the collapse of Rome wasn’t a good thing. There were many positive aspects to Rome—as there are to most civilizations. But there was much else to Rome of which I disapprove, such as its anti-commercialism, its militarism and, post-Caesar, its centralized and increasingly totalitarian government. In that light, it’s worth considering whether the collapse of the U.S. might not be a good thing.

So why did Rome fall? In 1985, a German named Demandt assembled 210 reasons. I find some of them silly—like racial degeneration, homosexuality, and excessive freedom. Most are redundant. Some are just common sense—like bankruptcy, loss of moral fiber, and corruption.

Gibbon’s list is much shorter. Although it’s pretty hard to summarize his six fat volumes in a single sentence, he attributed the fall of Rome to just two causes, one internal and one external: Christianity and barbarian invasions, respectively. I think Gibbon was essentially right about both. Because of the sensibilities of his era, however, he probed at early Christianity (i.e., from its founding to the mid-4th century) very gently; I’ve decided to deal with it less delicately. Hopefully neither my analysis of religion nor of barbarian invasions (then and now) will disturb too many readers.

In any event, while accepting Gibbon’s basic ideas on Christians and barbarians, I decided to break down the reasons for Rome’s decline further, into 10 categories: political, legal, social, demographic, ecological, military, psychological, intellectual, religious, and economic—all of which I’ll touch on. And, as a bonus, toward the end of this article, I’ll give you another, completely unrelated, and extremely important reason for the collapse of both Rome and the U.S.

You don’t have to agree with my interpretation, but let’s see what lessons are on offer from the history of Rome, from its semi-mythical founding by Romulus and Remus in 753 BCE (a story that conflicts with Virgil’s tale of Aeneas and the refugee Trojans) to what’s conventionally designated as the end of the Western empire in 476 AD, when the child-emperor Romulus Augustulus was deposed by Odoacer (a Germanic general who was in charge of what passed for the Roman army—which by then was staffed almost entirely with Germanic mercenaries who had no loyalty to the idea of Rome). It looks a lot like the American experience over the last couple of hundred years. First conquest and expansion, then global dominance, and then slippage into decline.

Political

It’s somewhat misleading, however, to talk about a simple fall of Rome, and much more accurate to talk about its gradual transformation, with episodes of what paleontologists describe as “punctuated disequilibrium.” There were many falls.

Republican Rome fell in 31 BCE with the accession of Augustus and the start of what’s called the Principate. It almost disintegrated in the 50 years of the mid-3rd century, a time of constant civil war, the start of serious barbarian incursions, and the destruction of Rome’s silver currency, the denarius.

Rome as anything resembling a free society fell in the 290s and then changed radically again, with Diocletian and the Dominate period (more on this shortly). Maybe the end came in 378, when the Goths destroyed a Roman army at Adrianople and wholesale invasions began. Maybe we should call 410 the end, when Alaric—a Goth who was actually a Roman general—conducted the first sacking of Rome.

It might be said the civilization didn’t really collapse until the late 600s, when Islam conquered the Middle East and North Africa and cut off Mediterranean commerce. Maybe we should use 1453, when Constantinople and the Eastern Empire fell. Maybe the Empire is still alive today in the form of the Catholic Church—the Pope is the Pontifex Maximus wearing red slippers, as did Julius Caesar when he held that position.

One certain reflection in the distant mirror is that beginning with the Principate period, Rome underwent an accelerating trend toward absolutism, centralization, totalitarianism, and bureaucracy. I think we can argue America entered its Principate with the accession of Roosevelt in 1933; since then, the president has reigned supreme over the Congress, as Augustus did over the Senate. Pretenses fell off increasingly over time in Rome, just as they have in the U.S.

After the third century, with constant civil war and the destruction of the currency, the Principate (when the emperor, at least in theory, was just the first among equals) gave way to the Dominate period (from the word “dominus,” or lord, referring to a master of slaves), when the emperor became an absolute monarch. This happened with the ascension of Diocletian in 284 and then, after another civil war, Constantine in 306. From that point forward, the emperor no longer even pretended to be the first among equals and was treated as an oriental potentate. The same trend is in motion in the U.S, but we’re still a ways from reaching its endpoint—although it has to be noted that the president is now protected by hundreds, even thousands, of bodyguards. Harry Truman was the last president who actually dared to go out and informally stroll about DC, like a common citizen, while in office.

In any event, just as the Senate, the consuls, and the tribunes with their vetoes became impotent anachronisms, so have U.S. institutions. Early on, starting with the fourth emperor, Claudius, in 41 AD, the Praetorians (who had been set up by Augustus) showed they could designate the emperor. And today in the U.S., that’s probably true of its praetorians—the NSA, CIA, and FBI, among others—and of course the military. We’ll see how the next hanging-chad presidential election dispute gets settled.

My guess is that the booboisie (the Romans called them the capite censi, or head count) will demand a strong leader as the Greater Depression evolves, the dollar is destroyed, and a serious war gets underway. You have to remember that war has always been the health of the state. The Roman emperors were expected, not least by their soldiers, to always be engaged in war. And it’s no accident that the so-called greatest U.S. presidents were war presidents—Lincoln, Wilson, and FDR. We can humorously add the self-proclaimed war president Baby Bush. Military heroes—like Washington, Andrew Jackson, Ulysses Grant, Teddy Roosevelt, and Eisenhower—are always easy to elect. My guess is that a general will run for office in the next election, when we’ll be in a genuine crisis. The public will want a general partly because the military is now by far the most trusted institution of U.S. society. His likely election will be a mistake for numerous reasons, not least that the military is really just a heavily armed variant of the postal service.

It’s wise to keep Gibbon’s words about the military in mind: “Any order of men accustomed to violence and slavery make for very poor guardians of a civil constitution.”

One additional political parallel with the U.S.: up to Trajan in 100 AD, all the emperors were culturally Roman from old, noble families. After that, few were. The U.S. now has had its first Kenyan president—just kidding, of course.

To be continued next week…

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34 Comments
Stucky
Stucky
January 4, 2023 7:12 pm

“There are some similarities between the U.S. and Rome.”

True. Who here hasn’t already read about such comparisons? For some of us, many many times. Haven’t read this article yet but, I wonder, will there be anything new?

We are not Rome. Period. The differences between the two empires are enormous. So …. what conclusions can we REALLY make that are valid?

Simplecarpenter
Simplecarpenter
  Stucky
January 4, 2023 9:56 pm

Wild success leads to wild excess which leads to an attitude of entitlement or arrogance which leads to an excess of pride or hubris which leads to nemesis or ” the fall ” . In our case the embrace of christianity actually coincided with our rise whereas with Rome it coincided with their fall . I fail to see it as a causative factor in our fall , especially in light of christianity’s call for humility as opposed to pride . Pride is always the culprit . look at our “political leaders “( lol ), why , they just cant be wrong can they ?they are never wrong , in fact theyll double down on abject failure they are soooo “not wrong ” . If that aint symptomatic of an excess of pride and a deficit of humility I don’t know what is .

Christina
Christina
  Stucky
January 5, 2023 2:54 am

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Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stucky
January 5, 2023 7:32 am

…but they have expansionism, corruption and loss of morals in common. All factors in the fall of Empires.

Stucky
Stucky
  Stucky
January 5, 2023 8:32 am

“It [USA] owned two-thirds of the world’s gold reserves; now it holds one-fourth.”

Fort Knox is empty, idiot.

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“The public will want a general partly because the military is now by far the most trusted institution of U.S. society. “

Fucking moron.

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You three who voted me down should go back and change your vote. That was one truly Weak Sauce article!

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Stucky
January 5, 2023 8:59 pm

The last act of of a dying government is always to loot the treasury. – George Washington

We’ve debased our currency exactly as Rome did…and to the same extent or worse.

And isn’t that really the looting of the treasury (the nation’s wealth) ?

Uncle Sugar’s coming down with a case of suddenly.

Jeff Davis
Jeff Davis
  Stucky
January 6, 2023 4:06 pm

Yeah, like man, we don’t run around in togas like they did – ha-ha-ha…

Owain
Owain
January 4, 2023 7:38 pm

Your writing is great, it makes me think.

What would a sudden reduction in calories do to an empire?

Or a sudden reduction in Just certain foods?

Owain

goat
goat
  Owain
January 4, 2023 8:12 pm

One of my theories is that civilizations bloom in part from nutritionally dense food, such as the usA and Rome (especially the food stuff they were getting from the nile river region helped), which creates optimal MENTAL and physical health, and as the soil is played out that health (especially mental) is exhausted and the civilization declines and falls. Certainly food quantity has affect also. Jared Diamond deals with that in some of his musings I have been told by people after I have floated my theory in the past and looked into him a little (if I recall correctly). I think he misses the point somewhat in that it isn’t just quantity but, as I said, also quality.

Stucky
Stucky
  goat
January 4, 2023 8:30 pm

A few years ago Nat Geo (the magazine) had a detailed article theorizing the fall of Rome was due to significant lead in their aqueducts. Their arguments sounded quite reasonable.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stucky
January 4, 2023 11:39 pm
goat
goat
  Stucky
January 5, 2023 4:41 am

Yeah, I have heard that but forth as well, and it certainly could be a factor. Watched a vid here lately how bad the contamination was for us all from using leaded gas all those years. We certainly seem to be having a hold my beer moment as a society headed in a downward spiral from many different things, and we will probably never know how many are on purpose or just the result of outgrowing our management IQ to keep a complex civilization together.
Are they the same thing? Sane competent people don’t usually try to burn the house down around themselves.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stucky
January 5, 2023 10:46 am

Flouride?

goat
goat
  Anonymous
January 5, 2023 11:07 am

Didn’t help that is for sure.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Stucky
January 5, 2023 9:07 pm

It was the lead in their silver coins that killed the Empire, not the water supply.

Jeff Davis
Jeff Davis
  Stucky
January 6, 2023 4:13 pm

And we have pharmaceuticals in our water supply. Atrazene and other gender-bending and sterilizing chemicals.

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 4, 2023 8:19 pm

You could compare the US to the Persian empire, or the Mongol empire, or the Roman empire, or the Spanish empire, or the British empire. They all work. To pare it to the bone, affluence leads to corruption and decline. Everything else is just details. I believe that what prepared the US for WWII was the Great Depression. Affluence was suppressed for almost a decade, and the corruption and decline were put on hold. The end of WWII saw unheard of affluence, and the exponential growth of corruption in government; not that it wasn’t always there before to varying degrees. What’s most disconcerting is that, except for brief periods of rejuvenation, the process is likely irreversible.

zappalives
zappalives
  Anonymous
January 4, 2023 10:43 pm

What a load of shit !
Did you pull this verbatim off of wiki ?

lamont cranston
lamont cranston
  zappalives
January 4, 2023 11:16 pm

ZL-

Anon is right, all empires follow the same pattern of devolution. Once you depend continuance on capture, you get dimishing returns. Re: USSR and soon, Red China, as it cannot control its outlying incompatible regions.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  zappalives
January 5, 2023 1:24 pm

NO! I read history. Try it some time you illiterate cretin.

messianicdruid
messianicdruid
January 4, 2023 10:23 pm

“…the use of the eagle as the national bird,..”

This did not occur until 1902. Phoenix prior to this.

Peter Horry
Peter Horry
  messianicdruid
January 5, 2023 12:51 am

I don’t know, man. The Great Seal has had the eagle since the late 18th century and the US Army rank of Colonel has been signified by an eagle since before the war of 1812. Where does the Phoenix show up on historical American national symbols?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  messianicdruid
January 5, 2023 10:51 am

Try 1782 … eight years before the Constitution was fully ratified.

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 5, 2023 9:07 am

“not least that the military is really just a heavily armed variant of the postal service.” ?? huh? damn, but all these years i must have missed something important about the post office!

Horseless Headsman
Horseless Headsman
January 5, 2023 10:01 am

“greatest U.S. presidents were war presidents—Lincoln, Wilson, and FDR.”

I have to disagree with all three, but principally Wilson. That SOB created the Fed and the income tax. If you want to pin our fall on one chest, I think his is a good choice.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Horseless Headsman
January 5, 2023 10:53 am

the other two mentioned are good candidates as well.

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 5, 2023 10:47 am

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Capt Barty
Capt Barty
January 5, 2023 11:19 am

The seeds of decline were sewn early in the Empire. Cornelius Tacitus, in “Anales”, what we now call “The Annals of Imperial Rome” could, in the first four pages taking place in 12-14 AD be writing about today. An ageing Augustus, intrigue in the capitol, and my favorite, “the higher the rank, the more eager the hypocrisy.” There’s the ending, when all that metastasizes through the body politic.

Quatermain
Quatermain
January 5, 2023 11:51 am

The fact that Casey finds homosexuality listed as a cause for decline to be “silly” says a lot about his basic paradigms. He obviously is not a very good student of either Gibbons or history. Gibbons also lists divorce as a major factor and of course Casey doesn’t even mention that. Then there is his use of “BCE” as a means of calling Augustus’s ascension in 31 BC. All in all an inadequate analysis.

goat
goat
  Quatermain
January 5, 2023 12:09 pm

Agreed. I have to admit most the criticisms so far have been valid. Except for the one about there being no correlation. Not his first article that I have found suspect. Such are Libertarians in general though. Very little critical thought to what they are buying into and regurgitating.

Jay
Jay
January 5, 2023 12:06 pm

Getting rid of the centralized government that Rome had when it fell was in fact a good thing in many ways because the technology did not exist then to have every person on the planet marked, controlled and tracked. By comparison and contrast, getting rid of the centralized government of the United States might play directly into the hands of the globalists who want to get rid of the United States so that they can have a much bigger centralized global government. The globalists have repeatedly stated that they must get rid of the United States Constitution and Christian religion exclusivity in order to bring in their global, one world government.

TonyLV
TonyLV
January 5, 2023 12:40 pm

“The public will want a general partly because the military is now by far the most trusted institution of U.S. society. ”

Huh?!? You have got to be kidding!!

Obummer purged many a patriot from the military and it is mostly run by woke idiots like thoroughly modern Milley, “Rachel” Levin, and their sick policies elevating racial and gender diversity, equity and inclusion, as well as fighting climate change, as priorities. That fricking lunatic Milley even committed treason when he conspired with Nasty Pelousy to communicate with the Chinese about control of the nuclear codes and other acts of treachery.

eckbach
eckbach
January 5, 2023 10:27 pm

From the reign of Nero to that of Antonius Pius, the Jews discovered a fierce impatience of the domination of Rome, which repeatedly broke out in the most furious massacres and insurrections. Humanity is shocked at the recital of the horrid cruelties which they committed against the cities of Egypt, of Cyprus and of Cyrene, where they dwelt in treacherous friendship with the unsuspecting natives; and we are tempted to applaud the severe retaliation which was exercised by the arms of the legions against a race of fanatics whose dire and credulous superstition seemed to render them the implacable enemies not only of the Roman government, but of human kind.
The Decline and Fall… Gibbons ch 16 par 4

goat
goat
  eckbach
January 6, 2023 4:28 am

And as I have said many times in the past, they have used the same “tactics” wherever they go as far back as we have records to destroy societies.