A source has told the veteran reporter that Kiev and Washington are deceiving the public about the situation on the ground
US intelligence analysts believe that Ukraine has given up on its counteroffensive against Russia and the only thing prolonging the conflict is the unwillingness of Washington and Kiev to acknowledge its failure, a source has told investigative journalist Seymour Hersh.
Writing on Substack on Thursday, the veteran reporter cited an unnamed source, who “spent the early years of his career working against Soviet aggression and spying” as rejecting the Ukrainian narrative about slow but steady progress in its counteroffensive.
“‘It’s all lies,’” the source said, according to Hersh. “‘The war is over. Russia has won. There is no Ukrainian offensive anymore, but the White House and the American media have to keep the lie going.’”
This sentiment is shared by many figures in the US intelligence community, and the CIA in particular has been skeptical of Kiev’s claims of a continued push forward, unlike the Pentagon’s Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), he explained.
G7 believes Ukraine conflict will last until end of decade – Bloomberg
Trent Maul, the director of analysis for the DIA, touted Ukraine’s success to The Economist earlier this month and claimed Kiev’s forces had a “realistic” chance to break through Russian defense lines this year. The British outlet contrasted the assessment with that of an unnamed senior US intelligence official, who said the battlefield “could look broadly similar” in five years.
The source cited by Hersh blasted the leadership in both Moscow and Washington for acting “stupid” during the crisis. Russian President Vladimir Putin got “provoked [into] violating the UN charter” with a poorly-prepared military campaign, he argued. US President Joe Biden retaliated with a proxy war and has had to rely on the vilification of Putin by the media “in order to justify our mistake.”
“The truth is if the Ukrainian army is ordered to continue the offensive, the army would mutiny. The soldiers aren’t willing to die any more, but this doesn’t fit the B.S. that is being authored by the Biden White House,” the source concluded.
Moscow has denied the US claim that the operation against Ukraine was an act of “unprovoked aggression,” insisting that the people of Donbass had the right of self-determination under the UN Charter and acted accordingly when they broke away from Ukraine after the 2014 armed coup in Kiev.
The Russian government has maintained that it acted lawfully when it recognized the independence of the Donetsk and Luganks People’s Republics in February 2022. Days later, after Kiev refused to stop attacks on Donbass and pull out its troops, Moscow launched its offensive.
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RUSSIA LAUNCHES 50 MISSILES INTO UKRAINE; 48 HIT ***NATO*** INFRA-STRUCTURE AND AMMO DUMPS!
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Breaking: Russia has bombed NATO Infrastructure across Ukraine as an apparent message is sent . . . loud and clear.
Logistics Hubs, Mercenary Bases, Weapons and Depleted Uranium Ammunition Depots have all been set ablaze in a gigantic strike with more than 50 missiles.
The __only__ purely Ukraine target was the Rivne thermal power station . . . which was was completely destroyed.
Haha!
Lol
I have no problem with Russia killing democrats !
The anniversary of Biden attacking the Nordstream pipeline is only a few days away. Since Ukraine has no chance at victory, all they have left is terror attacks, and Western hot air. That will be their M.O.
Domestically, I hope the “hardliners” in Congress embrace that term and run with it.
Hell, I knew the Government and Media were lying when the SMO started. Go back to 2014 and the lies they told then. Russia does NOT want NATO in its back yard and they will do what they have to to stop the steady encroachment of NATO in their “hood.” We, on the other hand, will not quit pushing until there is nuclear war. Immovable object against an irresistible force. Hang on folks, you ain’t seen nothin yet.
Yeah, Rooskies are History’s ‘Immovable Object’ for sure.
The U.S.A.’s history? Gang-rumping by rice farmers and goat herders.
The Irresistible Force is already up our ass..
Softball NPR interview with Zelinskyy , Doesn’t sound even remotely convincing
The ‘ war tour ‘ goes to Canada next. Show must go on , peace talks be dammed.
Here’s some fun:
Search “ukrainian troops kiiled by russian drones”
On duckduckgo.
Search videos for same.
Results? Uke drones killing Russians
Duckduckgo onky gives the exact opposite results of Ukrainian drones killing Russians
In news results, the Elon musk starlink story appears?
What will.your search results be for
“ukrainian troops kiiled by russian drones”?
Is this censorship in real time?
uh, … yeah.
How big was the rock you were hiding under?
???
You will bleed for Ukraine , and you’ll be happy.
” In the autumn issue of the U.S. Army War College’s “Parameters,” a quarterly published refereed forum that furthers the professional development of senior military officers on national security affairs, a call to action on a possible war with Russia that will kill about 50,000 Americans was presented. It pointed out that the massive loss of service members will also trigger conscription to fill the ranks. ”
newstarget.com/2023-09-20-war-with-russia-to-massacre-50000-americans.html
The numbers of queers in the military seeking transition will skyrocket. They will start transitioning to avoid deployment to combat.
They used to shoot soldiers for wounding themselves.
Now the democrat party controlled military gives em medals for cutting their balls off.
Funny that !
I wondering if there is a single issue, large or small, that isn’t a lie from ‘their’ lips.
Short answer, NO, not a single word.
What I hate about Seymour Hersh is that everytime he makes a pronouncement based on never-named sources who are always totally in-the-know, everyone quotes him like it’s the gospel truth.
“Days later, after Kiev refused to stop attacks on Donbass and pull out its troops, Moscow launched its offensive.”
Russia still doesn’t control all of the Donbass, and the lines look like they are less than a mile from the city of Donetsk, which hardly looks like the supposed goal of protecting them from shelling has been achieved.
But Seymour Hersh said something, so Russia has won. Just like when the MSM says something, so Ukraine is perpetually winning.
No one is allowed to say it’s all a complete shitshow.
Putin is both an economist, and a martial artist. Both those things teach you a lot about how to win a war. Not only has he destroyed Ukraine, he has destroyed the economies of Europe and the US and will most likely destroy the NATO alliance before this is over.
His goal is not and never has been to conquer territory, but the idiots cannot seem to understand that.
Every day this war continues, both the US and Europe slip farther into economic and political crisis.
Their governments are borrowing money at an ever increasing rates driving up interest and destroying liquidity. Germany, once the industrial engine of Europe is now deindustrialized and there is no way for them to recover. Meanwhile the Russian economy is growing and they are steadily increasing industrial output.
Wars are not won by tactics, or strategy, or wonder weapons, they are won by logistics. By manufacturing and transportation that can put more firepower on the field than the opponent.
The US and NATO never had a chance in this war, but the people in Washington were never out to win it in the first place, their goal was always to get rich from it. For the US, war is a Ponzi scheme where a few people in Washington get rich, and a lot of people thousands of miles away get killed.
Putin is also a chessmaster, plays Katyusha with his mind, and rides bears around shirtless. Sure.
If covid didn’t destroy our economy (it probably did), Putin ain’t doing it. We all know it is going to shit here, but look at the ruble. They are fucked, too.
“Wars… are won by logistics.”
Then why did Prighozin turn on Moscow over not getting support? Why are there reports (just like with Ukraine) of Russian troops having to supply themselves with their own purchased gear? Why is the supply of Ukraine from the west not targeted?