Heresy

We’re fighting a faith that’s lasted for centuries.

Guest post by Robert Gore at Straight Line Logic

A pervasive foreboding has enveloped the world, a feeling that we’re on the verge of something traumatic and epochal. The feeling has been stoked by overlords at the World Economic Forum and other globalist groups, promising us a miserable future, ostensibly to fight germs and changing temperatures, but actually to institute global governance and totalitarian control. That the overlords no longer hide their agenda, and that their bleak program has made the remarkable headway it has, hints at some sort of sinister, unrecognized force at loose in the world. Some say it’s satanic, though the world has been here before.

The historical analogue is Europe in 1517, just before Martin Luther nailed his Ninety-five Theses to the door of All Saints Church and launched the Reformation. That epochal movement involved a crisis of faith in a human institution—the Catholic Church—and a wrenching reexamination of belief that led to centuries-long intellectual ferment and sectarian violence across Europe. The Reformation sparked the Renaissance and Enlightenment, and eventually a belief that was stronger than faith in the Catholic Church: faith in government. As that latter faith falters, the new reformation will be just as wrenching and violent as the old one, probably more so.

The testament to the newer faith’s strength is its persistence despite governments’ myriad and manifest failures. Government grants itself a monopoly on the right to initiate force. Violence is a dubious foundation for religious faith, but the legal privilege to force others to do what one wants casts a spell impervious to logic or reality. To the contrary, governments’ failures feed the devout’s desire for more government and increases the determination of its high priests to maintain their power.

Government itself, not facts, logic, or argument, is destroying the faith, in part because it’s destroying the faithful. Nothing demonstrates that more clearly than the COVID vaccines. Millions believed propaganda and lies, dutifully lining up for their shots, and are now severely injured or dead. More research is necessary on the vaccines’ lethal mechanisms—research that is officially discouraged—however, their lethality has persisted since mass vaccination began and could persist for many more years.

An institution whose foundation is violence destroys and kills, and attracts those drawn to destruction and death. The outcome of violence is not order and safety, it’s chaos. Chaos may appear to be a “bottom up” phenomenon, but it’s usually the result of decisions and actions from the top. At the bottom, most of us want to peaceably live our lives and pursue our happiness. At the top, our overlords make it impossible for us to do so.

We get tyranny, war, destructive laws and regulations, government interference in every facet of life, deceit, propaganda, censorship, and corruption. After a century in which governments killed an estimated 100 to 200 million, you would think people would be disabused of their belief in it. Such is the strength of faith that they are not. Consequently, this century’s death toll may exceed last century’s.

Will the U.S. government avoid the blame for the chaos it has created, thus preserving the faith? It has so far and will continue to try to do so. However, the flip side of a government that wants to control every aspect of American life and preserve a global empire is that there is so much that can and will go wrong. The Biden administration is a demonstration in real time.

The faithful blame the unfolding domestic catastrophe on the enemies of the faith—the deplorables, aka right-wing extremists. How that group is responsible for central bank manufactured inflation, rising interest rates, financial collapse, the border crisis, ruined Democrat-led cities, or the COVID vaccines’ death toll are questions that answer themselves—they’re not—but never underestimate the destruction stemming from not asking or answering questions. The faithful believe in the same way as end-of-the-world cultists after the world fails to end on the predicted day.

Faith in government is behind what so many of us have observed or experienced: the inability of the faithful to engage in rational discussion. They will belittle, shout down, walk away from, physically assault, censor, imprison, execute, or otherwise evade those who ask questions or state facts. Philosophers and theologians have gone back and forth on the compatibility of true religious faith and reason for centuries. There is no doubt about the incompatibility of faith in government and reason; never the twain shall meet.

In foreign affairs and global empire maintenance, faith in the U.S. government runs into problems. Europe’s cowardly leaders have refused to publicity consider the possibility that the U.S. government sabotaged the Nord Stream pipelines, shutting off cheap and plentiful Russian natural gas to Europe, although the usual cui bono question and Seymour Hersh’s investigative journalism say that it did. Nor have the Europeans rebelled against the U.S.’s proxy war in Ukraine that’s all pain and no gain for Europe. Ostensibly, the U.S. government still enjoys the support of a good portion of the “Golden Billion”—the U.S. and Europe, with Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, South Korea, and Israel throw in.

The other seven billion have discovered that they have no use for a rules-based order whose rules apply only to them. After decades of depredations and hypocrisy, the U.S. has managed to create a coalition of the unwilling who reject its crap out of hand.

Israel has herded 2.2 million Palestinians into the Gaza strip. It controls their entry and exit, their ability to work, and the flow of food, water, fuel, electricity, medicine, and other essentials into Gaza. High walls topped with razor wire surround this de facto concentration camp. The Israeli government knows this situation fuels seething resentment. The Palestinians periodically express their frustration through nonviolent demonstrations and violent terrorism targeted at both Israeli’s military and civilians. Israel’s government responds with outrage and disproportionate force.

Hamas, the officially designated terrorist organization that acts as the Palestinians’ nominal “government” in Gaza, recently launched a surprisingly successful incursion into southern Israel and kidnapped or slaughtered hundreds of Israelis and citizens of other nations, including the U.S.

There are two contending explanations for Hamas’ success. The first is that notwithstanding Israel’s extensive control, intelligence, and surveillance of Gaza and the Palestinians, Hamas took it by surprise. The second is that Israel allowed the Hamas attack to justify launching a retaliatory attack on Gaza that would essentially obliterate it. So, the Israeli government is either incompetent or has disregarded the well-being and lives of its own people. (That disregard was already demonstrated in the government’s COVID vaccination campaign.)

There has been rhetoric from Israeli officials that Palestinians are animals, and that by the time Israel is done with Gaza it will be a tent city (looking like parts of urban Democrat strongholds in America). Israel has imposed a full blockade of Gaza—no food, water, fuel, or electricity. To concerns expressed that and its impending military action will be genocidal, Israeli officials offer assurances that their intelligence on the Palestinians will allow them to pinpoint Hamas hideouts.

As Caitlin Johnstone recently pointed out, you can believe that Israel intelligence’s incompetence enabled the Hamas incursion, or you can believe that Israel intelligence is so good that they’ll selectively annihilate Hamas, but you can’t believe both. Either way, Hamas had to know that Israel’s retaliation would be brutal and kill thousands of innocents. It’s another government disregarding the safety and lives of its own people; it’s what governments do.

To believe that the U.S. government, fresh off another stinging defeat—in Ukraine—could somehow make this volatile situation “better” is yet another triumph of faith over reality. Fools rush in where angels fear to tread. Among the potential unintended or intended consequences of U.S. intervention: a potential war against Iran (a long-time neocon dream) and its allies in the Middle East, as well as Russia and China; a war that engulfs three continents; a war that engulfs the entire world, and a nuclear conflagration. Even then, someone will emerge from the radioactive rubble and say that what the world needs is more government. The faith never dies.

However, the faith is receiving its biggest challenge in centuries. The U.S. and the world’s best hope is the Heretics—the ever-increasing group who have rejected faith in government and its noxious narratives. Heretics is a better label than “Deplorables,” a label given to U.S. heretics by an acolyte who despises us but wants to rule us. As Ants at the Picnic (Part One here, Part Two here), we must challenge the faith at every turn with our words and weapons. We must fight the overlords who would turn the world (other than their own posh enclaves) into one big Gaza Strip. And we must defeat them, or meet the fate of so many heretics back in that first Reformation.

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Harrington Richardson: Call Him "Weimar Joe"
Harrington Richardson: Call Him "Weimar Joe"
October 15, 2023 7:13 pm

A lot of seriously deep thought went into this. Thank you Robert!

Anonymous
Anonymous
October 15, 2023 7:19 pm

What’sHerFace doing the latest Negev trauma proud:

(20ish minutes ago)

It's truly GLOBAL
It's truly GLOBAL
  Anonymous
October 15, 2023 7:33 pm

“The Biden administration is a demonstration in real time.”

ALL in on the EVIL together.

AKJOHN
AKJOHN
  Anonymous
October 15, 2023 8:26 pm

She’s better than john belushi and Akroyd during the heydays of it’s Sat night.

AKJOHN
AKJOHN
  AKJOHN
October 15, 2023 9:46 pm

I’m a sucker for a nice girl with a brain. It’s a shocker these days.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  AKJOHN
October 17, 2023 12:21 am

Tonight I gave snl another chance [streaming], after decades of passing on the unfunny..season 49…..

Cold open was stupid and sluggish
fast forward, lame skit about centralpark freaks, a skit where they mocked Donald Trump weak [still no Joey Jokes? Suck enough demcock Lorne?] weekend update….lame rest of show
Found myself fast forwarding most they way through. Always fast forward the lame music performances.

PSBindy
PSBindy
  Anonymous
October 15, 2023 9:01 pm

She does a great Ben Shapiro.

JDE
JDE
  Anonymous
October 16, 2023 12:19 am

meh

Jdog
Jdog
October 15, 2023 7:49 pm

Human beings are evil creatures. They are unable to act civilly for more than a short period of time, and then there are periods of time when their collective evil becomes too much for them to contain. It appears we are now entering that period. A period of hate and murder on a mass scale worldwide. What is going on in Gaza at present, is nothing short of genocide, and yet we have the majority of people in the US and Europe supporting it.
I remember when I was young talking to an old man about WW2. He was saying that everyone after the war tried to act like they did not know what Hitler was doing to the Jews. He said that is bullshit. Everyone knew what was happening when it was happening. He said the thing is no one cared because everyone hated the Jews anyway.
When I see the duplicity of people today, I realize he was telling the truth.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Jdog
October 15, 2023 9:14 pm

Nobody has survived more imaginary horrors than those jews.

kiwi
kiwi
  Anonymous
October 16, 2023 4:52 pm

always the victim never the perpetrater

Anonymous
Anonymous
  kiwi
October 17, 2023 3:56 pm

Revenge of the Goy Golems

OfftheHingeZ
OfftheHingeZ
  Anonymous
October 17, 2023 4:34 pm

Stfu jew. Go ply your trade elsewhere, and mind your own business for once. Keep your greasy shylock nose OUT of white peoples’ affairs for a ¢hange you intellectual-yed-idiot scum. There’s a Jewish circle-jerk at the local Lodge. Be there or be square.

The nerve of you self-righteous asshats is astounding.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Jdog
October 16, 2023 12:08 am

If you mean putting many, not all, in camps, then why would they care? They were at war. If you mean ‘muh 60000000000000000000’ then I encourage you to start looking at the actual math and logistics involved. I’ll save making fun of you for another day. I remember believing this stuff, too. Until one day I talked to someone who had operated a cremator.

russ
russ
  Anonymous
October 16, 2023 10:34 am

Math is anathema to the holocaust.

Anon
Anon
  russ
October 16, 2023 4:28 pm

“Holohoax” FIGY

denny
denny
  Anonymous
October 17, 2023 3:33 pm

An insider wrote a book. Best analysis as to why all of this is happening: https://thegreattaking.com/

Socratic Dog
Socratic Dog
  Jdog
October 16, 2023 7:54 pm

Yeah. Except, it never happened.

wildhorses
wildhorses
October 15, 2023 8:27 pm

Thank you.

Just like admin, you have a seamless upper hand writing style.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
October 15, 2023 8:33 pm

I think apostate is a better fit.

Excellent essay in all other ways, per usual.

k31
k31
  hardscrabble farmer
October 15, 2023 10:27 pm

Heresy is getting something wrong, apostacy is not caring, so I have to agree.

TJF
TJF
  hardscrabble farmer
October 16, 2023 7:28 am

Apostate. Perfect word to describe this. Aren’t we supposed to get them checked when we are over 40?

WTF
WTF
  TJF
October 16, 2023 11:18 am

ROFL!!! There is nothing like tongue in cheek humor!

Anonymous
Anonymous
October 15, 2023 9:15 pm

Gaza: The prototype for ’15 minute’ cities.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
October 15, 2023 10:49 pm

Plus depop

OfftheHingeZ
OfftheHingeZ
  Anonymous
October 16, 2023 2:24 am

I live in a city in utah which was less than 3% hispanic in 2000.

According to wikipedia, it went up to 15% in 2020.

Working in a grocery store, where at least 2/3rds of customers are Hispanic, tells me the census and demographic numbers are lies. Not that Wiki was ever a trustworthy source, but those are official figures!

There have probably been a million illegal immigrations a month into this country since Brandon took office. The numbers simply do not add up compared with what I see with my own eyes everyday. We are drowning in random shitty taco niggers. They’re not even decent people. Point blank.

This country is so fucked, in so many different ways. I cant wait for war and/or collapse to thin these horrible demographic mumbers a bit. I hope WW3 happens tomorrow so these brown hordes get rounded up, drafted, and slaughtered by Chinese drones. They’ve been slaughtering and poisoning us here on our own soil for decades. So, fuck em.

Where will the new borders for Latin America be drawn? America has fallen across so many different metrics.

This state of mine is supposedly 90% white. I’d say its barely half now, and we know what more BAU will bring to the future.

This country is gone. America is just a name, a brand. This is now something new. We have entire foreign nations living inside our country. This isn’t a country anymore. Idk what to call it.

Anybody else experiencing similar things?

VOWG
VOWG
  OfftheHingeZ
October 16, 2023 9:49 am

Not just America, Canada is screwed as well.

russ
russ
  OfftheHingeZ
October 16, 2023 10:37 am

Yep.
The replacement pin cushions for Pfizer have been shipping for years.
Once the whites are all used up, they will use the replacements.
The SHOW MUST go on.

Anon
Anon
  OfftheHingeZ
October 16, 2023 4:31 pm

The FINAL implementation of the Coudenhove-Kalergi Plan…
in YOUR face.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  OfftheHingeZ
October 16, 2023 4:55 pm

California went from 92% white to under 40% white in 60 years.

My town went from over 90% white to under 10% white in 30 years.

300
300
  OfftheHingeZ
October 17, 2023 6:16 am

Same here in OK. The Browning of America is almost complete.

I see a Balkanization coming to the states soon.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  OfftheHingeZ
October 18, 2023 4:11 am

What makes you think illegals will be drafted? What makes you think they would obey a draft notice? They sure didn’t obey our laws getting here.
Citizens will be drafted, not illegals. The herd will be thinned, but not in the way you describe.
Think about who our government sees as a threat and who our government has chosen to protect. Then you will understand which population will be sacrificed to war

Uncola
Uncola
October 15, 2023 9:39 pm

From the above article:

Chaos may appear to be a “bottom up” phenomenon, but it’s usually the result of decisions and actions from the top. At the bottom, most of us want to peaceably live our lives and pursue our happiness. At the top, our overlords make it impossible for us to do so.

We get tyranny, war, destructive laws and regulations, government interference in every facet of life, deceit, propaganda, censorship, and corruption. After a century in which governments killed an estimated 100 to 200 million, you would think people would be disabused of their belief in it. Such is the strength of faith that they are not.

That certainly addresses the heart of the issue.

Like the meme says: You either trust government or you understand history. Because you can’t do both.

And yet many people forget history in order to dream that modernity and science are continuously progressing mankind forward – that the times are different (this time).

Plus, many Christians embrace the Bible’s Romans Chapter 13.

Romans 13:1-2 (New International Version):

Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.

Romans 13:1-2 (King James Version):

Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

Can Christians be blamed for believing they are just spiritual travelers – that God’s Kingdom is not of this world?

Asking for a friend. (seriously. I really am asking for a friend.)

AKJOHN
AKJOHN
  Uncola
October 15, 2023 9:54 pm

Tyrants and Usurpers are enemies of the ECK, holy Spirit. Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad. I wish that most Christians believed that they were Spiritual Travelers, but they don’t. So, where is Gods Kingdom? In Luke 17:20–21, Jesus says, “The kingdom of God does not come with observation; nor will they say, ‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’ For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you” (NKJV).
That’s why we practice the art of going within with Prayer, Meditation, and Contemplation.

Uturn
Uturn
  AKJOHN
October 16, 2023 12:17 am

Where are these mythical Christians- I have yet to meet one inspite of being dragged to church every Sunday my my mother. I knew it was all bullshit by the third grade just as I knew the Pledge of Allegence was.

flash
flash
  Uturn
October 16, 2023 7:31 am

When you spend you entire life wallowing in bullshit , everything smells like bullshit.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  flash
October 16, 2023 5:19 pm

Well, I see your talking from personal experience flash! Reeeeee

m
m
  Uturn
October 16, 2023 8:44 am

humble-man

AKJOHN
AKJOHN
  m
October 16, 2023 2:33 pm

It’s not about our will which is a form of pride. But Gods will. Contmplation is about going within and listening to Gods will.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  AKJOHN
October 16, 2023 5:27 pm

Contemplation is nothing but self delusion and hypnotism. And how come there are so many different religions? Does the all mighty, all knowing god of love reveal himself in different ways? No, religion has been a scam designed to DIVIDE the ignorant masses so they can be used to wage war against each other. Religious sentiment has been used to perpetrate the most henious crimes by humans against other humans. All in the name of their imaginary god.

AKJOHN
AKJOHN
  Anonymous
October 16, 2023 8:13 pm

Contemplation of the spiritual works is the true path to self and God realization. Almost no spiritual progress is made without contemplation. There is a different religion for every state of consciousness. This has to do with free will.

Simplecarpenter
Simplecarpenter
  AKJOHN
October 16, 2023 10:28 pm

Well said AKJ , I was going to suggest to anon that there isn’t anything inconsistent about twelve different people having twelve different perspective views of a single phenomenon.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
October 17, 2023 6:47 am

Wrong. The most heinous crimes committed against humanity was perpetrated by godless jewish communists, ignoroid

Anonymous
Anonymous
  m
October 16, 2023 5:19 pm

Hahahahahaha…..very funny!

Socratic Dog
Socratic Dog
  m
October 16, 2023 7:56 pm

So, of course, if a man doesn’t “understand” God, it can only because he’s too damn proud.

Excellent logic.

Simplecarpenter
Simplecarpenter
  Socratic Dog
October 16, 2023 10:33 pm

For a “socratic ” dog that wasnt a very impressive observation . Perhaps the man is so proud that he assumes anything beyond his comprehension is incomprehensible ( or BS ) ?Think about where that could lead ? It could lead to this man refusing to even consider any new or alternative thoughts whatsoever .

Simplecarpenter
Simplecarpenter
  m
October 16, 2023 10:22 pm

Are you proud of your humility ? See that exceedingly fine line one would have to walk ? Another definition besides the one you intended when you invoked the word ” reason ” is basically causation whether it be intentional or not , is it not ? I don’t know , Sorry ,guess I’m just sick of everybody , self rightious Christians included , and I am a christian for the record .

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Uturn
October 16, 2023 5:18 pm

100%. Most christians are hypocrites anyway. Do as I say, not as I do is their motto. And most of them haven’t even read the bible!

overthecliff
overthecliff
  Anonymous
October 16, 2023 11:16 pm

Exactly! That is the problem and God ain’t happy.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  overthecliff
October 17, 2023 5:13 pm

Really? He told you so?

contrarian
contrarian
  Uturn
October 18, 2023 7:07 am

my opinion exactly, by the time I was eight years old. Obvious bullshit, liars, hypocrites, criminals, perverts, the same people we have in government now.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  AKJOHN
October 16, 2023 5:16 pm

Actually, the correct translation is AMONG YOU, not within you. Besides, those scriptures are meaningless. Part of the mother of all psyops to fool the ignorant. Time to wake up!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
October 16, 2023 7:27 pm

Sanskrit Jesus:

9. THE ANSWERS LIE INSIDE YOU.

“The answers to life’s questions lie inside you. All you need to do is look, listen and trust.”

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Uncola
October 15, 2023 10:17 pm

whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.

That’s exactly what the Founding Fathers did. So why did they win the war? Asking for myself. I don’t have any friends. Really, I don’t. Why do you think I hang out here?

Uncola
Uncola
  Mary Christine
October 15, 2023 11:48 pm

Lol me too, M.C.

Founding fathers were Deists, a belief system quite conducive to nation building, if you ask me.

300
300
  Uncola
October 17, 2023 6:31 am

I did some deep reading on this last year after woman and I had a conversation on it. Jefferson wrote in a letter to his nephew.

“Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because, if there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear.”

I found this to be a comfort to me because I question everything and can see behind the curtain of control that religion tries to establish over it’s flock.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Uncola
October 18, 2023 8:54 am

They were Masons.

MrsBrian
MrsBrian
  Mary Christine
October 15, 2023 11:54 pm

(The doctrine of the lesser magistrate) is a unique Christian theory of resistance to authority which was first detailed in Magdeburg Confession of 1550. This doctrine teaches that when a ruler has become an incorrigible tyrant (within a very limited set of criteria), he has abdicated his claim to legitimacy. Consequently, those magistrates with lesser authority under him may defy and resist the illegitimate magistrate (and his unjust laws) for the sake of protecting others. For the embattled Protestant Reformation, the Magdeburg Confession became the embodiment of a theology of resistance allowing not only for a right to resist in certain circumstances, but a duty.
From:

The Doctrine of the Lesser Magistrate in the 21st Century West

Uturn
Uturn
  MrsBrian
October 16, 2023 12:19 am

Then the lower magistrates become the new boss. New boss same as the old boss- how about no bosses?

MrsBrian
MrsBrian
  Uturn
October 16, 2023 8:21 am

The point is WE are the final authority. It is our responsibility to stand up for what is right. I was ponting out the fallacy of the romans 13 “put up and shut up”.

russ
russ
  Uturn
October 16, 2023 10:43 am

Until people stop thinking “there should be a law….” never gonna happen.

m
m
  Mary Christine
October 16, 2023 3:56 am

You’re taking authority as a blanket term.

But true authority cannot run contrary to God. I.e. if it’s running contrary to God, it is not true authority.

WTF
WTF
  m
October 16, 2023 11:22 am

Amen!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  m
October 16, 2023 5:30 pm

Your imaginary god?

m
m
  Anonymous
October 17, 2023 1:19 pm

Your imaginary morality?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  m
October 17, 2023 5:35 pm

Your god is imaginary, strictly a product of your mind. Otherwise known as WISHFUL THINKING, SELF DELUSION AND SELF HYPNOTISM!

m
m
  Anonymous
October 18, 2023 2:59 am

Yawn.
Now tell about your morality, and the foundation it’s based on.

Horseless Headsman
Horseless Headsman
  Mary Christine
October 16, 2023 8:07 am

We’re just an association of loners. Odd concept, but accurate.

russ
russ
  Mary Christine
October 16, 2023 10:42 am

Excellent catch MC!

Anon
Anon
  Mary Christine
October 16, 2023 4:36 pm

As a recent study shows, 4 in 10 adult ‘Muricans don’t have a SINGLE close friend…
So you’re in good company

Socratic Dog
Socratic Dog
  Anon
October 16, 2023 7:59 pm

So 60% of adult Mercans have had to dispose of a corpse at some stage in their lives?

Simplecarpenter
Simplecarpenter
  Mary Christine
October 16, 2023 10:49 pm

Well I have supposedly alienated friends and family to a considerable extent myself with my insistence on giving my honest opinion on subjects when they were breached in group conversations . Hell I had em wailing and knashing their teeth just this last weekend for that very reason lol . I do admit it still hurts a little that these people have and apparently had so little respect for me that they would dismiss offhand things I tell them are true and behave as though I were either mentally defective or lying to win some stupid political argument . (YES , the various alphabet agencies have indeed created their own little armies and have indeed stockpiled millions of rounds of ammo) ( as if that should even be within the realm of speculation for anybody somewhat paying attention,Good Gawd ?) .No , I’m trying to get their stupid asses to see the fucking veritable freight train of government gone wild that is bearing down on all of us before its too damn late to salvage anything , as most thing are already beyond saving already at this point . It sucks , and its why I hate everybody equally ( not really )anymore . No respect is basically what it comes down to . Rodney Dangerfield syndrome . I gotta get over it , Noah managed to .

AKJOHN
AKJOHN
  Simplecarpenter
October 18, 2023 12:29 am

Remember that saying; birds of a feather flock together. The awakened Soul walks to the beat of his own drummer. You are that drummer.

MrsBrian
MrsBrian
  Uncola
October 15, 2023 11:49 pm

Romans 13 and the COVID-19 Virus

This is just one site that explains how rom 13 is supposed to work. Also, try typing “lesser magistrate” into your fave search engine.

flash
flash
  Uncola
October 16, 2023 7:26 am

“Can Christians be blamed for believing they are just spiritual travelers”
Yes, but I believe churchian would be a more descriptive noun , preceded by the clarifier, cowardly. While Christians should keep and eye on the eternal kingdom, we also have a mandate from God to spread the gospel , which necessarily includes providing a Christina Nation for the spiritual needs of our progeny.
If the early church fathers had not risked life and limb proselytizing to pagans , and Christian warriors had not sacrificed their wealth and lives to secure a nation for Christian believers , the world would be a much darker and evil place than it is today. But, for the light of the Christian lamp, Christ comes into he world and it is the duty of all Christians to keep that lamp lit, otherwise darkness destroys it all.

2 Chronicles 7:14 E
If my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land.

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The fruit of cowardice, compliance and neglect is slavery and death.

In Europe a secularized post-Christian culture is facing a Muslim one. The secularized culture is hedonist and values only its present life, because it does not believe in an afterlife. This is why it will surrender when threatened with death because life is the only thing it has to lose. This is why it will accept submission without fighting for its freedom. Nobody fights for the flag of hedonism, not even the hedonists themselves.
Belgian journalist, Paul Belien

After having discarded fear, let every man boldly confront the enemies of the holy faith and the invaders of all territories. Wherever your ancestors sent the folk, prepared for battle, they always emerged victorious. No other folk ever conquered them. We’ve never heard they returned home without the glory of victory after all. We want to fully acknowledge the Christian charity of all of you, because those who die in this war will decidly be given the kingdom of heaven. The almighty undeniably knows that whoever of you shall die, shall die for the truth of the faith, for the preservation of the country and in the defence of the Christians. Hence the aforementioned reward shall be his.
— Pope Leo IV, Epistola ad excercitum Francorum (letter to the Frankish army, ca. 850)

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Anonymous
Anonymous
  flash
October 16, 2023 5:11 pm

Outstanding post!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  flash
October 16, 2023 5:36 pm

The kingdom, according to the gospels, was supposed to arrive 2,000 years ago. Don’t you think you’re a little late, flash?. Why don’t you believe Jesus’s own words? It looks like you have cognitive dissonance. Reeeeeee

MrsBrian
MrsBrian
  Anonymous
October 17, 2023 9:23 pm

It did. Everything He predicted came true…. Jerusalem fell and their entire civilization was destroyed: the sun and moon went black…. So much of what John recorded in the book of the Revelation was taken directly from the Old Testament prophets, who were warning about the coming destruction of other civilizations that also experienced destruction, eg Babylon. He was using their language because those he was writing to would have known their own scriptures and would have understood exactly what John was talking about, that this time it was Jerusalem’s turn. That’s why so many Christians left the land when the armies arrived, instead of hiding in Jerusalem, which would have been the usual procedure for a people being beseiged: go into the walled city for protection — Jesus told them, when you see these things happening, flee!! And DON’T go back into the city.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  MrsBrian
October 18, 2023 9:01 am

“He was using their language because those he was writing to would have known their own scriptures”

Those HE was writing to? I think you’re a little bit confused. Besides all of that was written years after the fact.

flash
flash
  Uncola
October 16, 2023 7:33 am

“for the benefit of those who are sincere (but obviously misinformed), let’s briefly examine Romans Chapter 13. I quote Romans Chapter 13, verses 1 through 7, from the Authorized King James text:

Paul makes it clear that our submission to civil authority must be predicated on more than fear of governmental retaliation. Notice, he said, “Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.” Meaning, our obedience to civil authority is more than just “because they said so.” It is also a matter of conscience. This means we must think and reason for ourselves regarding the justness and rightness of our government’s laws. Obedience is not automatic or robotic. It is a result of both rational deliberation and moral approbation.

Therefore, there are times when civil authority may need to be resisted. Either governmental abuse of power or the violation of conscience (or both) could precipitate civil disobedience. Of course, how and when we decide to resist civil authority is an entirely separate issue. And I will reserve that discussion for another time.”

https://chuckbaldwinlive.com/Articles/tabid/109/ID/511/Romans-Chapter-13.aspx

Uncola
Uncola
  flash
October 16, 2023 12:49 pm

Also from the Chuck Baldwin link:

This means that in America the “higher powers” are not the men who occupy elected office, they are the tenets and principles set forth in the U.S. Constitution. Under our laws and form of government, it is the duty of every citizen, including our elected officials, to obey the U.S. Constitution. Therefore, this is how Romans Chapter 13 reads to Americans:

“Let every soul be subject unto the [U.S. Constitution.] For there is no [Constitution] but of God: the [Constitution] that be [is] ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the [Constitution], resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. For [the Constitution is] not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the [Constitution]? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: For [the Constitution] is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for [the Constitution] beareth not the sword in vain: for [the Constitution] is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. For this cause pay ye tribute also: for [the Constitution is] God’s minister, attending continually upon this very thing. Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honor to whom honor.”

Dear Christian friend, the above is exactly the proper understanding of our responsibility to civil authority in these United States, as per the teaching of Romans Chapter 13.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Uncola
October 16, 2023 5:39 pm

Yeah, coming from another deluded bible thumper.

Ruger49 in Nowhere, Montana
Ruger49 in Nowhere, Montana
  Anonymous
October 17, 2023 6:32 pm

So you’ve called me a deluded Bible thumper, too, as I attend his weekly service at Liberty Fellowship in NW Montana.
If you have the gall to cast aspersions, especially of this type. you have no understanding whatsoever of God’s Word and New Covenant Theology.
Go back to the rest of your third-grade friends in your collective sandboxes, or read, study and believe in what the Bible says, and offer something real.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Ruger49 in Nowhere, Montana
October 18, 2023 9:15 am

Believe, believe, believe without any proof whatsoever is the product of mental retardation. It’s called wishful thinking, based on brainwashing and indoctrination.

flash
flash
  Anonymous
October 18, 2023 8:21 am

Do We Need God To Be Good?
An Anthropologist Considers The Evidence

Do We Need God To Be Good?

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Simplecarpenter
Simplecarpenter
  Uncola
October 17, 2023 8:42 pm

“A government of for and by the people ” , it is supposed to be that we are the government , not these elected and unelected officials. How very unique as it relates to Romans .

VOWG
VOWG
  Uncola
October 16, 2023 9:53 am

God wiped out Sodom and Gomorrah, flooded the entire planet, killed tens of thousands who did not obey Him, I don’t think I will bend over to corrupt evil government because of a Bible verse. I think Paul muddied the waters.

Steve
Steve
  VOWG
October 16, 2023 4:34 pm

Yep. I never understood why so many Christians go gooey over this guy called Paul. I always found that he contradicted Jesus at almost every step. No wonder the disciples admonished him in Acts 21. Christianity is based on him, not Jesus.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Steve
October 16, 2023 5:48 pm

Either way you look at it, is a scam.

Junious Ricardo Stanton
Junious Ricardo Stanton
  Steve
October 17, 2023 11:42 am

The Roman Empire’s rulers adopted and used Christianity to unify the empire and later as a rallying cry for their greater imperial ambitions. The Church Fathers were not going to allow a sect whose leader was in opposition to the Roman Empire be the central figure of their new religion other than in name (Jesus is the Latinized name for Yeshua a Hebrew name). The Gospels were written in such a way as to vilify the Pharisees and minimize the roles of the Zealots and Essenes while giving the priest collaborators who ran the Temple and conspired with the Roman occupiers a pass.
Paul was not a disciple of Yeshua he never met him in person or knew him. He was a Hellenized Jew ( he adopted the Greco-Roman world view). He and the later church organizers mixed ancient Mediterranean cult cosmologies with Zoroastrian, Hebrew and Egyptian doctrines to invent their “theology”.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  VOWG
October 16, 2023 5:47 pm

More than likely millions. Including innocent little children and animals. He sent Israel time after time to commit genocide against other nations, whose members by the way, were supposedly children of his. Anyone who believes that was a god of love, please contact me. I have some nice swampland for sale.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
October 16, 2023 7:30 pm

The Isrealites are always showing love to their neighbors.
White phosphorus love shells!.
Fucking war criminals are dropping white phosphorus on babies and kids.

overthecliff
overthecliff
  Anonymous
October 16, 2023 11:26 pm

Heaven forbid. The Palestinian mohammedans would never do anything like that. War is hell. Kill them all and let God sort them out.

fritz
fritz
  Uncola
October 16, 2023 11:25 am

Romans 13 article by Chuck Baldwin makes sense to me….and I’m not ‘just saying’

The Myth of Romans 13

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Uncola
October 16, 2023 5:11 pm

But, but, but the holy bible is god’s word!

overthecliff
overthecliff
  Uncola
October 16, 2023 11:14 pm

We Americans are reaping what we have sown. We have ignored God’s rules but we will not be able to ignore the consequences of ignoring God’s rules. Life is hard and it is harder if you are stupid.

Tim
Tim
  overthecliff
October 17, 2023 1:43 pm

Amen brother. We are called to obey our government and laws unless they go against God’s word. It is then we must rebel and stand strong in our faith. God help us now for we are ruled by demon forces and evil people. How are we supposed to vote our way out of this mess? Better be armed and ready for what comes our way. I once was free but now enslaved

Anonymous
Anonymous
  overthecliff
October 17, 2023 4:42 pm

Your imaginary god’s rules 😆

Simplecarpenter
Simplecarpenter
  overthecliff
October 17, 2023 8:46 pm

Bingo !!! We have a winner !

luke2236
luke2236
  Uncola
October 17, 2023 5:13 pm

Actually READ the chapter and book, and take it in context. Look who it is written to to begin with. Then, look at who wrote it.
Paul is the author of the book.
Paul wrote it in Rome.
Why was Paul in Rome? Because he was imprisoned. Why was Paul Imprisoned? Because HE DEFIED GOVERNMENTAL ORDERS.
Think McFly…
[hint – God gives us a clear set of descriptions of/rules for, legitimate government. Not one single government on this earth fulfills them now, or most likely then – Rome sure didnt. Therefore, the Word does not demand loyalty to, nor obsequiousness towards, government. Paul DOES say that it is advisable to try and live a peaceful and dignified life IN AS MUCH AS IS POSSIBLE, but that does not mean rolling over and spreading them. We are under NO Biblical compulsion to obey any illegitimate government. ]

Anonymous
Anonymous
  luke2236
October 17, 2023 5:38 pm

Paul wrote it? You know that for a fact?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
October 18, 2023 9:19 am

Yep, he was there imprisoned with him. Didn’t you know?

AKJOHN
AKJOHN
  luke2236
October 18, 2023 12:34 am

Beautifully said. The Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad says that Tyrants and Usurpers are enemies of the holy spirit. God is all about freewill. We learn from for errors is the learning process. Karma molds us into the spiritual person God meant us to be.

Ruger49 in Nowhere, Montana
Ruger49 in Nowhere, Montana
  Uncola
October 17, 2023 6:21 pm

There is so much information that is skewed by “Evangelical Christianity” on Romans 13. The first thing they need to do is throw away their “Per-versions” of the Word of God.
Here’s some of Pastor Chuck Baldwin’s teachings on Romans 13:
https://libertyfellowshipmt.com/News/tabid/56/articleType/Search/Default.aspx?Search=Romans+13

Blessings
R49

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Ruger49 in Nowhere, Montana
October 18, 2023 9:25 am

“Word of God” based on what? You obviously haven’t even read it. If you have, it’s been through the filter of theology which fools you. You’re totally blind.
The bible couldn’t be the word of any god simply because it’s replete with contradictions. Time to wake up from your slumber.

The earth is a farm. We’re someone else’s property.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
October 15, 2023 10:15 pm

Either way, Hamas had to know that Israel’s retaliation would be brutal and kill thousands of innocents. It’s another government disregarding the safety and lives of its own people; it’s what governments do.

I think I have become a reluctant anarchist.

http://www.sobran.com/reluctant.shtml

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mary Christine
October 15, 2023 10:52 pm

Thank you.

Excerpt from that essay:

Hans [-Hermann Hoppe] argued that no constitution could restrain the state. Once its monopoly of force was granted legitimacy, constitutional limits became mere fictions it could disregard; nobody could have the legal standing to enforce those limits. The state itself would decide, by force, what the constitution “meant,” steadily ruling in its own favor and increasing its own power. This was true a priori, and American history bore it out.
. . .
Abolish the state.

Uturn
Uturn
  Anonymous
October 16, 2023 12:20 am

WHo is the moron who down voted this?

m
m
  Uturn
October 16, 2023 4:13 am

Not me, but probably people who laugh at the notion that “abolishing the state” will somehow magically fix all – assuming such is even doable.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  m
October 16, 2023 5:52 pm

It would certainly be a recipe for chaos everywhere. The human cattle was not made to govern themselves.

russ
russ
  Anonymous
October 16, 2023 10:44 am

The state wants to abolish steak.

Steve
Steve
  russ
October 16, 2023 4:35 pm

No, just the steakholders.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Steve
October 16, 2023 7:32 pm

The steak eaters.

Simplecarpenter
Simplecarpenter
  Anonymous
October 17, 2023 9:00 pm

Yeah you gotta know something else will spring up to serve whatever legitimate and neccessary functions government was originally instituted to serve in the first place , call it by any other name you wish , it will essentially be the fledging version of the same beast . Then its only a matter of time before it eventually becomes the overreaching and corrupted thing it replaced . In my heart of hearts this I believe the truth , and any thing else is the stuff of utopianism. At least in this life on this plane of existence . That is not to say that we shouldn’t wipe the slate clean and start over, but that the blessings that we would enjoy as a result would be transitory as always . Hey , ya gotta try to set things right though anyway so its a bit of a contradiction Lol .

Horseless Headsman
Horseless Headsman
  Mary Christine
October 16, 2023 8:10 am

The problem with anarchy is that the dipsh1ts won’t leave you alone.

SchlomoTruth
SchlomoTruth
  Mary Christine
October 16, 2023 8:34 am

A lot of this smacks of judeo-Christian tripe. Itself a very subversive anti-Christian doctrine.

Steve
Steve
  SchlomoTruth
October 16, 2023 4:36 pm

You do realise that your religion is based on a man who was born, lived and died a Jew and who never intended to start a new religion?

SchlomoTruth
SchlomoTruth
  Steve
October 16, 2023 6:12 pm

Wrong. Define what you mean by Jew?

Tim
Tim
  SchlomoTruth
October 17, 2023 1:45 pm

Born of a Jewish mother

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Steve
October 17, 2023 5:40 pm

His religion just like any other one is based on bullshit.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  SchlomoTruth
October 16, 2023 5:53 pm

Either way is a scam, just like the false right-left paradigm.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mary Christine
October 16, 2023 9:02 am

I have found Christian Anarchy, by Jacques Ellul, an interesting talk on this and the Romans passages.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mary Christine
October 16, 2023 5:50 pm

Hamas was created by Israel to have an excuse to drive all Palestinians out and steal all their land.

vi veri veniversum vivus vici
vi veri veniversum vivus vici
October 15, 2023 10:24 pm

“Fools rush in where angels fear to tread.”

« Subridentes et canentes omnes se in rogo immolaverunt, quia sciverunt regnum quod nunquam speraverunt in hoc mundo »

MUST be some mistake?
MUST be some mistake?
  vi veri veniversum vivus vici
October 16, 2023 6:18 pm

vi veri veniversum vivus vici

By the power of the truth I have come alive

« Subridentes et canentes omnes se in rogo immolaverunt, quia sciverunt regnum quod nunquam speraverunt in hoc mundo

“Smiling and singing, they all sacrificed themselves on the pyre, because they knew the kingdom they had never hoped for in this world”

Arizona Bay
Arizona Bay
October 15, 2023 11:01 pm

Martin Luther you say?

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m
m
  Arizona Bay
October 16, 2023 4:15 am

At the same time he became a tool for the jews…
“nobody is more enslaved than the men who believes he is free”

flash
flash
  m
October 16, 2023 5:42 am

True. Luther began to hate the money-lenders after coming to understand that he was in fact, their useful idiot, used to destroy the unity and power, both secular and spiritual power of the Catholic church.
Luther was the catalyst for the insufferable debt servitude that plagues the entire world.

Philip II: (1527-1598)
William Thomas Walsh

“It did not occur to the kings that if the money-lenders ever got
power enough, if they ever got from under the public-spirited
repression of the Church, they would destroy their own masters.
Kings were not generally as far-sighted as money-changers, and
much less so than priests. This is not to deny that clerics sometimes
condoned usury and profited by it, or that some kings repressed it.
Human affairs are never so simple as that. But there was a line of
cleavage: the Church on one side hostile to usury, the kings
compelled to make use of it on the other.

As the moral influence of the Church was weakened in the
political and economic spheres, in consequence of a series of
calamities for which she was not to blame—the Black Death, the
papal exile at Avignon, the Great Schism, the return of paganism
with the Renaissance—usury began to accumulate wealth and to
organize its influence. With canny insight it threw its influence, by
and large, against the power of Church and State, supporting now
one, now the other, until, by a see-saw process, it succeeded in
weakening both.

It early identified itself with the forces of heresy in religion and
liberalism in politics, until Protestantism at last gave money-lending a certificate of respectability, until a Lord Bacon could write a serious defense of it, and Harrison (in Holinshed) must chronicle the capitulation of the new Protestant England to “usury, a trade brought in by the Jews, but now perfectly practised almost by every
Christian, and so commonly that he is accompted but for a fool that
doth lend his money for nothing.”5 ”

https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=1889B28539B7506D637C3D5605BFD2A0

SchlomoTruth
SchlomoTruth
  Arizona Bay
October 16, 2023 8:36 am

The jews and their lies

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Arizona Bay
October 16, 2023 5:55 pm

Very Christian indeed!

JDE
JDE
October 15, 2023 11:55 pm

Renaissance came first, not Reformation. I don’t know enough to say if one killed the other, but culture is sure to take a hit when everyone decides to murder each other over whether their religion is more about bling priests or about acting more like jews.

Talking about the wars, it doesn’t matter whether the people with faith (in this gov or that gov) are correct, as long as they have faith. Winning or losing don’t mean what what we were taught, so it doesn’t matter as long as the peasants do what they are told. It’s like spectator sports. It doesn’t matter who they cheer for, or who wins or loses, as long as they still are still invested in it, buy tickets, merch, watch the ads, worship the coaches and players, focus on the rules of the game.

I don’t see that faith dying. Covid was a huge eye-opener, not just for governments acting in Lockstep but for what it is people believe in. It sure as hell wasn’t the churches anymore. And even for most people who opposed the covid reaction, they still bought into the latest iteration of the faith. Heretics, rather than heathens. Take your anti-malarial or wormer for the coof! Tricks to wearing a ‘protest’ mask!
Boost your immune system! Follow this anti-covid guru! We need a Nuremburg (soviet-style show trial) for Fauci or Pfizer! or whatever.

I don’t see anything changing until people adopt a completely new (or old) paradigm.

m
m
  JDE
October 16, 2023 4:19 am

Now tell us how the Nuremberg Code is fake and gay. 🤦‍♂️

JDE
JDE
  m
October 16, 2023 11:26 am

It is.

k31
k31
  JDE
October 16, 2023 11:51 am

Amen.

Gammer
Gammer
October 16, 2023 2:47 am

The WEF and their close fascists are now Russian military targets. Let’s see how long they last.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Gammer
October 16, 2023 12:07 pm

fake news

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Gammer
October 17, 2023 4:49 pm

Russia is just another globalist stronghold.

m
m
October 16, 2023 3:40 am

“A pervasive foreboding has enveloped the world, a feeling that we’re on the verge of something traumatic and epochal.”

That automatically happens in [parts of] the world where the vast majority of the people has abandoned their morality. (And BTW one doesn’t need religion to define a good morality, but as it turns out only religion is able to preserve and hand down such a morality across generations.)

“The historical analogue is Europe in 1517”

No. Luther was obviously a ploy to divide and conquer catholicism, which has now been fully achieved.
I find Russia in the late 19th century much more similar, as the same modernist nihilism was in play then.
Read https://www.firstthings.com/article/2020/10/suicide-of-the-liberals

Ursel Doran
Ursel Doran
October 16, 2023 6:09 am

My note on this subject!!
For those that may be thinking that the collective events in the country are just random occurrences, Open Border, high fuel prices, etc, please read these articles on how this is planned, orchestrated, and executed with the specific intents of malicious malice aforethought
to achieve the end that was laid out for Obama when he was being indoctrinated in Chicago and why Soros chose him, groomed and financed him, to do what is being done today in Obama’s third term using the Demented One from the stolen election.
——————————————————————————————-
The Cloward Piven / Saul Alinsky / Obama strategy to destroy the country. Full on NOW. A primer.
Obama has Susan Rice, Valerie Jarrett and Victoria Nuland in Biden’s control group, for what is now obvious to be Obama’s third term!!

The Collapse of the USA & the Rule of Law?

More detailed information.
https://cei.org/opeds_articles/study-saul-alinsky-to-understand-barack-obama/
Alinsky reviewed it at some length.

Alinsky lays out to take the country down.

Saul Alinsky’s 13 Tried-and-True Rules for Creating Meaningful Social Change

A fresh review of keen interest.
https://www.cairco.org/reference/cloward-piven-strategy-fundamentally-transforming-america

flash
flash
October 16, 2023 6:43 am

+1000 … Although necessary for modern society to exist, faith should never be placed in the state. The state should be yoked to the people to the extend that none dare subversion for fear of the swift consequences to come.
Tribe up or die.

faith (n.)
mid-13c., faith, feith, fei, fai “faithfulness to a trust or promise; loyalty to a person; honesty, truthfulness,” from Anglo-French and Old French feid, foi “faith, belief, trust, confidence; pledge” (11c.), from Latin fides “trust, faith, confidence, reliance, credence, belief,” from root of fidere “to trust,”from PIE root *bheidh- “to trust, confide, persuade.” For sense evolution, compare belief. It has been accommodated to other English abstract nouns in -th (truth, health, etc.).

nation (n.)
c. 1300, nacioun, “a race of people, large group of people with common ancestry and language,” from Old French nacion “birth, rank; descendants, relatives; country, homeland” (12c.) and directly from Latin nationem (nominative natio) “birth, origin; breed, stock, kind, species; race of people, tribe,” literally “that which has been born,” from natus, past participle of nasci “be born” (Old Latin gnasci), from PIE root *gene- “give birth, beget,” with derivatives referring to procreation and familial and tribal groups.

“A civilization is a cultural entity. Villages, regions, ethnic groups, nationalities, religious groups, all have distinct cultures at different levels of cultural heterogeneity. A civilization is thus the highest cultural grouping of people and the broadest level of cultural identity people have short of that which distinguishes humans from other species. It is defined both by common objective elements, such as language, history, religion, customs, institutions and by the subjective self-identification of people …
The qualities that make a society Western, in contrast, are special: the classical legacy, Christianity, the separation of church and state, the rule of law, civil society…People define themselves in terms of ancestry, religion, language, history, values, customs, and institutions. They identify with cultural groups: tribes, ethnic groups, religious communities, nations, and, at the broadest level, civilizations. People use politics not just to advance their interests but also to define their identity. We know who we are only when we know who we are not and often only when we know whom we are against… There can be no true friends without true enemies. Unless we hate what we are not, we cannot love what we are. These are the old truths we are painfully rediscovering after a century and more of sentimental cant. Those who deny them deny their family, their heritage, their culture, their birthright, their very selves! They will not lightly be forgiven.
Samuel P. Huntington, The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World

“You are living in a post-ideological age. Understand this. Accept this. It is time to stop thinking in terms of Left and Right, of Liberal and Conservative, of Democrat and Republican, and think in terms of identity instead…. Ideology politics are dead. Idea wars are reserved for homogeneous societies, not multiracial, multiethnic, multireligious, war zones. The culture wars are intrinsically interidentity, and anyone who is still babbling about Left and Right, or Liberal and Conservative, is simply demonstrating the extent to which they fail to understand their own reality. “
Vox Day

“In multiracial societies, you don’t vote in accordance with your economic interests and social interests, you vote in accordance with race and religion.”
—Lee Kuan Yew

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

“For this end, we must be knit together in this work as one man, we must entertain each other in brotherly affection, we must be willing to abridge our selves of our superfluities for the supply of others’ necessities. We must uphold a familiar commerce together in all meekness, gentleness, patience and liberality. We must delight in each other, make others’ conditions our own, rejoice together, mourn together, labor, and suffer together, always having before our eyes our commission and community in the work, our community as members of the same body. So shall we keep the unity of the spirit in the bond of peace, the Lord will be our God and delight to dwell among us, as His own people and will command a blessing upon us in all our ways, so that we shall see much more of His wisdom, power, goodness, and truth then formerly we have been acquainted with.”
― John Winthrop

flash
flash
  flash
October 16, 2023 8:45 am

No civil society survives an undisciplined mob. The freedom to be all, including the lie, is in turn the freedom to completely destroy truth. If you can grok only one truth, grok this. Might makes right. You’re either the boot or the neck. Aspire to be the boot.

“This disemployment of a lifelong leftist highlights why it was a massive mistake for Christendom to fall for the fraudulent “right to free speech” that was pushed by those seeking to undermine the Christian blasphemy laws. Now there are new blasphemy laws, albeit with people putting themselves in the place of God and Jesus Christ, and beyond all criticism.

It is also why it is pointless to refrain from speaking the truth for fear of the possible consequences. Because it’s not enough to simply hold one’s tongue, complete submission and a willingness to knowingly speak falsehood is required.

One has to almost feel sorry for the artist. Netanyahu has been a veritable punching bag for the Left for nearly 40 years. There are vast reams of cartoons lampooning and caricaturing him in a thousand different ways. How was the artist supposed to know that the long-time punching bag was officially off-limits now?

Ideology is dead. Identity dictates everything now.”

Ideology is Dead

Anonymous
Anonymous
  flash
October 16, 2023 12:05 pm

I see he has got on the anti-ideology bandwagon. Nothing wrong with that, but Vox doesn’t have an identity.

My eyes popped out at the washington monument / wailing wall thing on his site just now, but it’s from 3 years ago apparently. Just leaving a link in case anyone posts it as if it is current. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8776501/Thousands-march-Washington-pray-Trump-support.html

Horseless Headsman
Horseless Headsman
October 16, 2023 7:59 am

Hopefully, this will be the end of ‘democracy’ on any scale larger than about 200 members. Nationally, a democracy inhabited by un/mis/malinformed members is easily subverted to the uses of those whose life goal centers around control and power.

All governments are evil, but not equally so. Any system that can stem the access of the ‘paths that always gravitate to centers of power would have a better chance at serving it’s members in their pursuits.

IMO, humans would be happiest in towns or clans of about 200 to 300 members, with the groups connected through social and economic ties to each other without having a centralized system of control and regulation. They would still fight as humans are wont to do, but all the members would have a say.

Ain’t happening, I know. But I’ve wondered for years about the problem.

SchlomoTruth
SchlomoTruth
  Horseless Headsman
October 16, 2023 8:40 am

The cabal is well known to promote chaos to establish an order molded by them and to their liking. This whole thing is just more fake and gay ops to serve their purpose. Look deeper…who benefits from this and why do they want us to perceive it via their media?

JIMSKI
JIMSKI
October 16, 2023 8:42 am

That’s a lot of words for ” I don’t know what happened”

To say that the Government has damaged or destroyed faith overlooks the great job FAITH had in destroying faith.
Remember the word of God is spoken through man and women and THAT is the problem. Historically when governments go after faith it polarizes populations but does not really damage the faith. When a faith has rules that go againts the human condition or changes a major tennant of the faith it looses many more of the faithful than government pressure.

The fourth turning is here. I see a pattern that I have never seen in the last historical 4th. Tell me if this makes sense.

The last 3 turns we had a very ( in my opinion) limeted scope of challlenges. They we all very basic in nature such as our own countrys foundation, finally answered the question of who was in charge states or feds with the civil war ( wrong side won ) and yet if we had not solidified the place of the federal government 50 states separate and very unequal would have never defeated the axis.

This time the attack is on multiple fronts. Social, governement, economic, faith, freedom, health and the list goes on. Used to be you had a few ways to die seems we know have hundreds. And yet with hundreds of ways to die everyday we get up and get to it. You can go ahead and be ” worried that it is all comming apart” or you can set on a hill with popcorn and see the difference in this 4th. Then we can all write down our thoughts in a ” tales of the 4th turning ” also know as “Voices of the fall”.

flash
flash
  JIMSKI
October 16, 2023 9:23 am
m
m
  flash
October 16, 2023 9:56 am

Luckily Eastern Civilization will pick up the slack…

flash
flash
  m
October 16, 2023 3:22 pm

A fittingly so.

russ
russ
  JIMSKI
October 16, 2023 10:49 am

The reason they are now blowing up the world is because people have decoded the bible, hindu and buddhist allegory and instructions.

This is a Stage 5 global emergency.
If TPTB lose the religious hegemony, they lose all their carefully constructed ersatz moral high ground.

wildhorses
wildhorses
  JIMSKI
October 16, 2023 12:56 pm

I consider patterns with loose ends.

The American Yawp is one resource for understanding the Government’s role in revamping and revising faith. The aftermath of which is seen in society today, a destroyed faith.

Anonymous
Anonymous
October 16, 2023 10:02 am

To bad that the first part of this essay, which was good, drifted off into the standard for here anti- Western and American propaganda. Western systems of government offer the world’s best hope to achieve a world we Westerners hope for. Is it now in the hands of socialistic powerists? A resounding yes. Is the situation hopeless? A resounding no. It took 550 years to get from the Magna Carta to the US Constitution. Unfortunately, about 100 years into our republican democracy socialism happened. Socialism is the most evil form of government ever created and is also the perfect weapon for powerists to gain the control they crave. It is socialism, and powerism in general, we must resist. Things look so bleak now because of socialistic powerists’ actions, both intended and consequential. Always remember, however, that socialism has never, and can never, work. The lies it tells preordaines its own eventual failure. Even if it leads to a total economic collapse, which if not overcome, it will (look at history), as long as we remember the American Dream discussed by the Administrator above, and teach it to our children and grand-children, eventually it will prevail. But we must never abandon hope.

m
m
  Anonymous
October 16, 2023 1:44 pm

LOL – “it took 12 years to go from 1905 to 1917 in Russia” is probably much more apropos.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  m
October 16, 2023 5:17 pm

You may be correct. Socialism relies on the big lie that we can create utopia by stealing from the rich. The Dem’s have been beating that drum since FDR, but belief in hard work and fair play (both Western values) managed to hold them off. Now the kids in college are falling for it so who knows. Maybe we are already there and just refuse to believe it.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
October 18, 2023 9:33 am

And how do you think the rich got there, if not stealing from the poor?

kiwi
kiwi
  Anonymous
October 16, 2023 6:01 pm

you confuse socialism with communism the real evil

overthecliff
overthecliff
  kiwi
October 16, 2023 11:37 pm

Same thing just spelled differently.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
October 16, 2023 8:09 pm

Is it now in the hands of socialistic powerists?

It’s in the hands of the jews.

Socialism isn’t the problem. The problem is the jews.

russ
russ
October 16, 2023 10:33 am

The bible was written, and the church organized, to be a system of steady taxation.

The split in the church was staged, because the royalty in Luther’s region, wanted to KEEP the money they were stealing from the masses when they were supposed to be forwarding it to Rome.

Who told you?
Who benefits?

The “Reformation” was all about the money.
Once the crack appeared through Luther, every country that was not Rome had a “split” with new denoms popping up like Credit Unions in the 90s, or Savings and Loans in the 70s.
And all of these new faiths stopped forwarding monies to the pope.
“Buy Local” was apparently en vogue.

Junious Ricardo Stanton
Junious Ricardo Stanton
October 16, 2023 10:39 am

The mentality of the Zionist warmongers is similar and consistent with previous Western invader/settlers/colonizers who also referred to the indigenous people’s lands they invaded, pillaged and plundered as “less than” as animals and savages in need of extermination, pacification and subjugation. Western imperial empires were built on the lives and bones of indigenous people using this consciousness/psychopathy. The continuous wars among Western colonial powers resulted in the devastation wrought by WWI and WWII (including dropping of atomic bombs on Japanese civilians) and various global proxy wars they’ve waged since the end of WWII.
Unless saner minds intervene we will see a replication/continuation of those historical patterns on a much larger, more devastating scale.

Anon
Anon
October 16, 2023 4:26 pm

Scott Ritter– ex-Nuclear Inspector and a longtime American gov’t liaison with the Israeli military–
wrote this column a couple days ago and it lays outhow Israel stole land from the Palestinians, quotes Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Dayan admitting that the jews stole land from the Palestinians, the history
of Netanyahu that reveals he’s ALWAYS BEEN a bloodthirsty tyrant, and how the Israeli PM– Yitzhak Rabin– was the only Israeli Prime Minister who sought SOME KIND of rapprochement with the Palestinians… and was assassinated under very strange circumstances.

https://www.scottritterextra.com/p/why-i-no-longer-stand-with-israel

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anon
October 16, 2023 5:20 pm

It just depends how far back you want to go. Rome stole it from the Jews and left the Palestinians in place. Eventually many Jews filtered back in, then the Muslims stole it again.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
October 17, 2023 5:47 pm

The Invention of the Jewish People. By Schlomo Sand.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
October 18, 2023 9:35 am

You didn’t back far enough. The Jews stole it from other nations too!

JACK
JACK
October 17, 2023 1:21 am

Well said. Thank you.
We are indeed at a point in history as pivotal as the Reformation with the technological information then (printing press) making the challenge possible like today with the internet. If we do not challenge the status quo, information will be manipulated against the heretical today as it was in the past. We have the choice of being John Huss (Jan Hus) or Martin Luther.

SmallerGovNow
SmallerGovNow
October 17, 2023 10:05 am

Great post Robert… Chip

dogismyth
dogismyth
October 17, 2023 4:16 pm

“We must fight the overlords who would turn the world (other than their own posh enclaves) into one big Gaza Strip. And we must defeat them, or meet the fate of so many heretics back in that first Reformation.

Its a little late for that unless everyone gets their fat ass out of the chair and does something? It really is quite amazing how unintelligent most americans can be.

What more proof do you need that the merry-go-round ride (i.e., the american dream) is about to stop, and with catastrophic effects.

1. They just attempted, and are succeeding, to kill millions of people around the world with the deadly RNA/DNA injections for a fake unverifiable virus known as COVID. They lied to you and made you do things against your will and your better judgement. The proof is in…..the RNA/DNA shots are deadly both in terms of debilitating disease and death. They want you dead.

2. All the prisons in central america and in south america are sending their bad boys up here, and even criminals from far away lands (the Stans, Africa) are being allowed entrance into your soon-to-be Gaza prison. Todays news states that Nikki Haley is championing the import of 1 million plus Palestinians to the US. How about that?? Do you see that they are turning the USA into a “Escape from New York” land prison….a third world country separated by oceans and seas like Alcatraz Island. The northern border to Canada is being fortified by various foreign soldiers including the Chinese. Your homeland will be a depot for all the misfits of the world. Once the PTB agree to build the wall on the southern border you will begin to realize that the wall is there to keep you in….are catching the vibe yet??

3. Take a serious read of this article.

US ECONOMY: Federal Piglets Declare US Economy is GRRRREAT!

If you understand 5th grade math you will understand that your country is no longer a superpower nor is
it a financial powerhouse. Major major depression headed our way, and very soon. Your leaders have enriched themselves,, their family and friends and those who do favors for them…and there ain’t no money left. What little is left is being sent abroad to Ukraine, Israel, Africa to set up new empires that will be run by your favorite psycho….the fake jews!

4. They continue to poison the water, air, food and medicine. The junk food you consume on a regular basis has made you all weak and diseased. Any processed food is pumped up with poison of all sorts especially soybean oil, preservative, flavors and sugar…the worst. You will not be able to fight when the migrants come for your home and your food and your jobs. Americans are so soft and easily fooled it’ll be like taking candey from a baby!!

5. There is no one in our court of the people including Trumpty Dumbty. He’s a genuine fake and is part of the Uniparty. He is such a fantastic liar and talker that millions believe in him and enrich him further with their desperate donations. There is no one fighting for you. It will soon be every man for himself. Your federal, state and local politicians have gaslight you for decades and stole everything from you. Remember that when you see one on the street after the SHTF.

6. Also many fools relying on some godly entity to save them and the world because things are getting a little rough. Its simply amazing how entrained people become to these gods when they realize they are fucked and can’t do a goddamn thing to save their own ass. If you dont believe in evolution, you’ll soon realize the importance of the strong and fit will survive.

The party is literally over. The american people had a great75 years since the end of WW2 whereupon the USA was literally king of the world. But people became foolish quickly believing in the government and ignoring the infiltration of dual citizen jews who came to control our government and our way of life.

Here’s your choices.

1. Run and hide
2. Surrender to the strong and hope for mercy.
3. Fight

there are no other choices unless you’re filthy rich or have an extensive bunker built already. The party IS over.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  dogismyth
October 17, 2023 5:09 pm

There’s no god coming to save anyone but there’s no evolution either. The truth lies somewhere in between.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  dogismyth
October 18, 2023 9:38 am

“Your country” was never really yours. They just made you believe that. The entire world is a matrix of lies and deception.

Anonymous
Anonymous
October 17, 2023 4:29 pm

Israel, the psychopathic nation

Tr4head
Tr4head
October 17, 2023 4:58 pm

“It controls their (Palestinans) entry and exit, their ability to work, and the flow of food, water, fuel, electricity, medicine, and other essentials into Gaza. High walls topped with razor wire surround this de facto concentration camp. ”

Hmm. Makes one wonder how people in a Concentration camp managed to lob a thousand missiles? Or were allowed to.