Christianity, Another Failed Western Institution

Guest Post by Paul Craig Roberts

Little Town of Bethlehem- by Francis A. Boyle, Professor of International Law

https://francisaboyle.substack.com/p/little-town-of-bethlehem-by-francis 

Every Western institution has failed.  Governments represent powerful material interests, not citizens. Universities and public schools are indoctrination centers against Western civilization and white people.

Media is a propaganda ministry in behalf of official narratives.  Law is no longer a shield of the people; it is a weapon used by those in power against political opponents, which means democracy and free speech are dead.  And now Christians have turned from Christ and endorsed genocide. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/30/us-evangelical-christians-israel-hamas-war \

Christian evangelicals are obviously a constraint on US foreign policy as Israel’s actions are interpreted as the workings of the hand of God.  Human rights and moral conscience are displaced by prophecy.  One consequence is the bribes offered by the President of Europe, Ursula von der Leyen, to Egypt and Jordon for cooperating with Israel’s aims of ethnically cleansing Palestine of Palestinians by serving as transit centers for a Palestinian diaspora.

There are protests against Israel’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine, but governments capable of stopping it have taken no action to prevent it.  From the looks of it, genocide is an acceptable solution, even for the Arabs.  Has the demise of morality put the world into Satan’s hand?

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69 Comments
YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
November 29, 2023 6:09 am

If I could choose when I could live it would be the Eisenhower years.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  YourAverageJoe
November 29, 2023 9:21 am

It was a good time, but now it’s gone. Except for ruining the country, the 70’s were kind of fun too.

Gary
Gary
  YourAverageJoe
November 29, 2023 10:10 am

You’re alive now for a reason.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  YourAverageJoe
November 29, 2023 10:32 pm

Eisenhower had relations with the Council on Foreign Relations and was a shill traitor. He was a bureaucrat pretending to be a general, whereas Patton was a general. We know who became president.

zappalives
zappalives
November 29, 2023 7:11 am

When smug evangelicals arent finding passages in their old KIKEBOOK (instruction manual for compliant goyim) about how fun it is to smite dunecoon children …………they secretly marvel at cath-hole-lick faggot dancing rituals and pray Jesus returns as a mentally ill democrat male faggot.

anonymous
anonymous
  zappalives
November 29, 2023 7:51 am

All the best to you. Brother.

zappalives
zappalives
  anonymous
November 29, 2023 8:24 am

Stick it up your ass democrat……..I aint your brother !

VOWG
VOWG
  zappalives
November 29, 2023 9:05 am

You are a demented f***.

anonymous
anonymous
  zappalives
November 29, 2023 10:58 am

Could not be further from being a democrat. Have a great day.

m
m
  zappalives
November 29, 2023 8:55 am

But disobeying the “instruction manual for compliant goyim” will save you!!1!

Anothermous
Anothermous
  zappalives
November 29, 2023 3:18 pm

Sometimes zappa, you are freaking funny!

Iechyd da! 

Anonymous
Anonymous
  zappalives
November 29, 2023 7:53 pm

No niggercock?
What’s up?
You OK?

Unreconstructed
Unreconstructed
November 29, 2023 8:32 am

Proverbs 22:7-9 English Standard Version 2016 (ESV) The rich rules over the poor, and the borrower is the slave of the lender. Whoever sows injustice will reap calamity, and the rod of his fury will fail…
In my lifetime, I’ve seen the US go from the greatest lender nation on Earth to the greatest debtor nation on Earth.
If you can figure out who prints (computer generates) all the trillions that the government BORROWS to dole out in foreign aid, entitlements, etc., you will see that we are now servants (slaves) to the bondholders that have us by the balls. Just a gentle squeeze and we will do their bidding. Can’t afford not to or the game will be OVER.
Rattle them chains!!!!

Anonymous
Anonymous
November 29, 2023 9:38 am

Christendom is false religion.
Because the clergy misrepresent the kesons of the Word.
They teach people to worship the stories instead of learn from them.

anonymous
anonymous
  Anonymous
November 29, 2023 11:08 am

The solution is crystal clear. STOP FOLLOWING WHAT RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS TEACH. Read the Holy Bible yourself. Try the New King James Version. My understanding is that version remains true to the (passed down) Word of God. Read/study it every day. With time you will understand. You do not really need some other mortal to interpret the Word of God for you. But. It will take time. What else are you going to do with your life?

Anothermous
Anothermous
  anonymous
November 29, 2023 11:46 am

I studied the bible [multiple translations, transliterations and concordances] intensely for over 30 years.
Then I graduated when I crossed the rubicon of blind acceptance in the overt stories and uncovered the meaning the stories point towards underneath.

I eventually also found absolute truths in Buddhism and Hinduism.

But, like Christendom, those two systems of belief were also swallowed up by traditions which replaced the lessons, with mystery and
rote recitation of words.

Anothermous
Anothermous
  Anothermous
November 29, 2023 11:48 am

All religions suffer from “Tradition Creep”

anonymous
anonymous
  Anothermous
November 29, 2023 1:10 pm

You sound like you have an open mind. You should investigate the prophesy that is (pre) announced throughout the Old and New Testament. There is no other written source material that has the proven track record of the Bible. That is not refutable. That is fact.

Anon y mous
Anon y mous
  Anonymous
November 29, 2023 12:18 pm

Christendom is not a religion. Christendom is a term that describes a grouping of countries / kingdoms that unfortunately now exist only in the past

Christians do not worship stories, we worship God.

Anothermous
Anothermous
  Anon y mous
November 29, 2023 12:22 pm

Christians do not worship stories, we worship God.

ROFL
You worship stories.
It’s okay to admit it.

Anothermous
Anothermous
  Anon y mous
November 29, 2023 12:24 pm

Christendom, is a world empire of falsehoods with the apostate manufactured bible its law tome.

Eyes Wide Shut
Eyes Wide Shut
November 29, 2023 9:40 am

7000 Years.
As the 7th day of creation was created for a day of Sabbath rest the 7th Millennium is created for the restoration and 1000 year Sabbath rest of a repentant Israel on earth under Jesus the true Messiah with a rod of iron from the throne of David in Jerusalem.

Like everyone else on earth the key is a “repentant” Israel not an unrepentant one.
Not all Israel but those who will have truly received Jesus by faith as their Messiah.
Gods forgiveness and grace applies equally to all that humbly repent and come to true faith in Jesus.
His justice equally to all who do not.
It’s always much easier to point the finger outwards and blame others for our pain and grief than to look deeply inward at the selfishness and darkness in our own hearts in need of repentance and true restoration with God first before we can effectively point others towards Jesus.

Hosea 6:1-3
Israel Unrepentant
6 “Come, let us return to the Lord.
He has torn us to pieces
but he will heal us;
he has injured us
but he will bind up our wounds.
2 After two days he will revive us;
on the third day he will restore us,
that we may live in his presence.
3 Let us acknowledge the Lord;
let us press on to acknowledge him.
As surely as the sun rises,
he will appear;
he will come to us like the winter rains,
like the spring rains that water the earth.”

Anothermous
Anothermous
  Eyes Wide Shut
November 29, 2023 11:50 am

There is no “jesus” coming in the clouds, unless it is a psyop.
The entire bible story is competely misrepresented bullshit.
So is the Torah, Tamud, Koran, BoM baghivad gita.
All are human devised bullshit to control other humans while the priest class lives like effendi.

Eyes Wide Shut
Eyes Wide Shut
  Anothermous
November 29, 2023 1:21 pm

Jesus certainly won’t be coming for Anothermous except in a bad way unless you change your ways.
Unfortunately most people will end up learning that the hard way after the point of no return or changing your heart and mind has come and gone.
That’s why Jesus weeps. It’s over the eternal lost He knows will never truly come to Him.
The Lamb of God will one day soon become the Lion of the Tribe of Judah.

Anothermous
Anothermous
  Eyes Wide Shut
November 29, 2023 1:39 pm

The worst threat a “christian” has is “God is gonna be mad at you when you die”?

That about it?

The reason you put up with hegemonic religious bullshit it because religion told you your reward is in the “next life”

Even notice how the people in charge of religions, tend to live luxuriously in THIS LIFE?

Now why would they do that?

Anothermous
Anothermous
  Anothermous
November 29, 2023 3:25 pm

Even notice how the people in charge of religions, tend to live luxuriously in THIS LIFE?

Now why would they do that?

Yes.
Why would they buy ocean front property?
Why do they fly around in private jets?

Who told you the stories? Pastors and priests.
Who benefits from the stories? Pastors and priests.

Examine the bible and its paid clergy, keeping the contemporary money side of the story in mind. Pastors and priests get to not produce anything of tangible value through labor.

They are parasites who have attached themselves to your money.

Stop giving them money.
See how long they stay for their “calling”

Another Othermous
Another Othermous
  Anothermous
November 29, 2023 3:28 pm

The bible, is at once: true and false.
There are many valuable lessons to learn inside.
Once you remove your religion installed filters and look at it for what it is, you might be able to find some practicle use for the stories.

Jes Sain

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Eyes Wide Shut
December 2, 2023 10:04 am

Not too worried
I crossed the river, walked right up to the angels guarding the path to the garden,
and? They stepped aside and let me pass.
I can now, come or go as I please.
I met God thru Jesus’ gracious intruduction.
[Thankyou Lord Jesus]
Now we are buds.
.

Jdog
Jdog
November 29, 2023 11:53 am

Christianity is a fake religion invented by Jews.

m
m
  Jdog
November 29, 2023 12:40 pm

Atheism is a fake religion invented by Jews.

FIFY

Jdog
Jdog
  m
November 29, 2023 10:17 pm

Atheism is the realization, you have been lied to, by everyone, about everything. It is know as awakening….. If you are a Christian, you are a Jews cuckhold, with his cock in your ass and your hard earned money spent to kill children, which makes you just as guilty as the Jew who fucks you like the bitch you are…..

m
m
  Jdog
November 30, 2023 1:47 am

Atheism, like any modern -ism, is the belief that you can discern the truth, on your own, before acting.
Only very critical thinkers, after many decades, are able to finally realize that this is a nicely dressed lie, to obfuscate the fact that you most of all need to retain humbleness, so to not become a monster.

And humbleness -in the face of the unfixable forever imperfection of man- is the central tenet of [real] Christianity.

If you lose your deep humbleness, you have become a “jew cuckold”; that part is correct.
FIFY

Jdog
Jdog
  m
November 30, 2023 10:55 am

Christianity is a lie, made up by the JEWs to make you a slave, in your mind as well as in your life. It has worked well, as you are now an accomplice to the murders of tens of thousands of innocent people including thousands of children. When you watch a video of a 3 yr old girl being pulled from the rubble and her arms and legs fall off, you can say with pride “I did that”

m
m
  Jdog
November 30, 2023 11:10 am

You need to lose that hatred… which could only happen with humbleness.

But keep on fanning your Luceriferian Pride: “I [Jdog] know everything that needs to be known”
[i.e. the exact opposite of humbleness.]

Jdog
Jdog
  m
November 30, 2023 9:11 pm

I know you are an idiot and an asshole. Go pray to your fake god to give you a little tiny bit of intelligence..

m
m
  Jdog
December 1, 2023 1:22 am

I know you are an idiot and an asshole. Go worship your fake atheist god to give you a little tiny bit of wisdom..

FIFY

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Jdog
December 10, 2023 2:12 pm

Atheism is when false religion gets one to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
The bible is true from certain angles, and false from others.

It is a very powerful piece of mind control propaganda.
Few realize that both atheists and Christians are trapped by it.

Anothermous
Anothermous
  Jdog
November 29, 2023 1:39 pm

So is judaism.

BL
BL
November 29, 2023 12:52 pm

Spend your time shaking your fist at the right group of people and their religion (not that G.R.E.E.D is a bonafide religion).

GNL
GNL
  BL
November 29, 2023 11:03 pm

🙂

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
November 29, 2023 1:23 pm

Christianity began to fall long before our Western civilization was born. Started while the apostle Paul was still alive; the Judaisers immediately corrupted the simplicity of the gospel God gave him.

2 Timothy 1:15 KJB… “This thou knowest, that all they which are in Asia be turned away from me; of whom are Phygellus and Hermogenes.”

The catholic church and modern bible publishers continue the work with tremendous success.

Has the demise of morality put the world into Satan’s hand?

Adam put the world into satans hand. He’s been driving worldly “morality” ever since.

BL
BL
  grace country pastor
November 29, 2023 1:33 pm

Oh yes GCP, Christianity failed because of Adam. Is that also the reason pastors and church leaders have remained quiet as a church mouse on porn, gay marriage, gender bending, transgenders and the open murder of innocents? What is the pulpit for, repetitious blather of bible verses while the church burns down around you along with society? Does truth enter the doors of our churches , or just the offering plate and silence?

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  BL
November 29, 2023 5:28 pm

pastors and church leaders have remained quiet as a church mouse on porn, gay marriage, gender bending, transgenders and the open murder of innocents?

You obviously have not heard my pastor preach because he constantly reminds us of the evils in the world, including all of the above.

BL
BL
  TN Patriot
November 29, 2023 9:15 pm

What no same sex married couples on the front row or better yet, running the church? You are blessed, TN.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  BL
November 29, 2023 10:22 pm

We are. I have to give credit to my step-daughter and SIL. They were looking for a good church for their 4 boys to grow up in and found it two blocks from their house. Our pastor is the best I have ever had and teaches straight from the Holy Bible.

A few years ago, he came up with the idea to have the Church read a chapter a day, beginning with Mathew 1, 5 days a week. The church supplied journals. On Sunday he or the associate pastor would pick one of the 5 chapters for the sermon. It was a great experience knowing that a thousand brothers and sisters were reading and studying the very same chapter every day.

BL
BL
  TN Patriot
November 30, 2023 11:16 am

TN-So what happens when the trans crowd shows up for church cross dressed to the max? How does your pastor handle that? Does he speak against liberalism? You are so blessed, truly.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  BL
November 30, 2023 4:02 pm

I have no idea what would happen, but we do have off duty police walking the halls and probably at least 50 people carrying each Sunday. We have had some homosexual members, but they are not allowed to teach or be in a leadership position. We believe you hate the sin, but love the sinner.

He does not speak against liberalism, per se, but does frequently bring up the abomination of abortion, homosexuality & transsexuality in addition to porn, adultery and other sins. Homosexual marriages are not allowed in our church.

Our pastor regularly receives threats on his life and reports them all to the Chief of Police, who has been to our church several times.

BL
BL
  TN Patriot
November 30, 2023 4:17 pm

I believe in hating the sin and loving the sinner but in cultural Marxism folks like you become the sinner after they invade and take control of churches. Usually the godly get up and leave in order to start another church. Seen it more times than I can count, common down in GA where I have relatives.

Things were bad enough when it was just the preachers visiting with the wives during the day while the husbands were at work, but degenerates in the pulpit…… NO.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  BL
November 30, 2023 4:39 pm

I used to be in the United Methodist church, but when the denomination decided to let homos become pastors, I had to leave. Many of the local small town UMC’s have disaffiliated, but the largest one near us voted to stay, so they lost almost half their members who have now set up another Methodist Church. When the Church cannot live by the very plain standards set up in the Holy Bible, they are really not the “Bride of Christ”.

Take care, Brother.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  BL
November 29, 2023 9:00 pm

Where did I say Christianity failed due to Adam’s transgression? I said he delivered dominion of the world to satan. Satan and man together have done the rest.

I agree that the vast majority of churches have failed to be faithful stewards of the mystery revealed to Paul. They thus inspire confusion and untruths; they don’t teach the right Bible rightly divided.

1 Corinthians 4:1-2 KJB… “Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of Christ, and stewards of the mysteries of God. Moreover it is required in stewards, that a man be found faithful.”

What is the church for? It ought to be the pillar and ground of truth.

1 Timothy 3:15 KJB… “But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

Mostly, it’s just blather and offering plates… 🫤

BL
BL
  grace country pastor
November 29, 2023 9:11 pm

Pastor, churches have not spent their time on truth and God’s word. Instead of holding steadfast to the word, they have gone above and beyond to uphold cultural Marxism and leftist social restructuring. THAT is as bad as it gets.

m
m
  BL
November 30, 2023 1:57 am

And that’s a failure of Christianity?

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  BL
November 30, 2023 12:28 pm

Mainstream organized religious institutions, yes absolutely. Can I help you find a proper church BL?

BL
BL
  grace country pastor
November 30, 2023 12:55 pm

Pastor, there are a multitude of tiny little white country churches that only hold about a hundred people near my house in Podunk. There are no cross-dressing fags and lesbos down here to try to take over the church. Most likely some good ‘ole boy would shoot them, so we don’t have that problem. Big city churches are another story ENTIRELY. These mega-churches are a joke and I think if you are honest, you will agree with me.

Many a preacher got a huge cash payoff before 2016, that was to insure the cultural Marxist agenda would be inbeded in the city churches. I mainly live in the city where sanity got up and left one day.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  BL
November 30, 2023 1:13 pm

Of course I agree that the vast majority of churches have failed. That would include the majority of little white country churches as well. You should try to find one that teaches the KJB rightly divided. We are few and far between.

2 Timothy 2:15 KJB… “Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.”

Anothermous
Anothermous
  grace country pastor
November 29, 2023 1:45 pm

Jesus, had just ended his teaching mision on earth.
He selected 12 apprentices and taught them for three years.
Saul/Paul, was never a student of Jes.

The inclusion of the Saul/Paul stories by the politicians in the 4th century was for the standardization of the Belief system which made sure that the new book included instructions to pay taxes, pay ten percent to the church, and obey the secular authorities laws.

The bible, is the most successful long running psyop I know of.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Anothermous
November 29, 2023 9:03 pm

Saul/Paul, was never a student of Jes.

Paul received revelation directly from the risen, ascended, glorified Lord.

Galatians 1:11-12 KJB… “But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.”

Anonymous
Anonymous
  grace country pastor
November 29, 2023 11:12 pm

Paul received revelation directly from the risen, ascended, glorified Lord

Of which Saul/Paul gave three different versions of his story.
He was a Pharisee.
And a Roman.

What’s more likely?
Was he the clean up point man in the elimination of the true Jesus story and the replacement with the Roman-Pharisee aproved version?

Or was he genuinely converted in an instant?

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Anonymous
November 30, 2023 12:36 pm

He was genuinely converted, giving three accounts of his “road to Damascus” experience in the course of Luke’s account of the Acts of the Apostles.

Acts 9:5-6 KJB… “And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.”

Paul is the apostle of the Gentiles!

Romans 11:13 KJB…”For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:”

With all the Jew bashing that goes on here it blows my mind why these folks desire the 12 Jewish apostles and not their own! The one Christ gave to them specifically. The one who wrote more of the New Testament section of the Bible that anyone else; 13 letters!

Go figure… 😐

Anonymous
Anonymous
  grace country pastor
November 30, 2023 10:52 pm

The one Christ gave to them specifically. The one who wrote more of the New Testament section of the Bible that anyone else; 13 letters!

Saul/Paul had nothing to do with the collation of bible texts. That was done [according to the story] over 300 years later. By politicians/priests.

Why did they choose the specific bible books?
Because they supported the narrative of the time, while codifying paying taxes to the secular authorities, obeying the state laws, and a ten percent tax to the church.

Ask yourself how much you would believe any of this if they were to introduce similar stories today?
All you need to do is see how many billions were just duped, and apply your knowledge of human behavior to the bible and all other holy books.
This is not to say the bible is wrong.
It is just that the message has been deliberately made unclear, and some pretty severe story inversion is how they teach it.

The bible is how they not only inform you of the rules.. for you, but they lead you off into silly delusions at the same time.

The command to care for the earth is true.
As is the command to not harm the earth or each other.
The creation story fits with electric sun theory.
The instructions of Jesus are valid.
As is much of the law code.
The prophesies include many things which can be faked by men with knowledge of “alchemy”
and natural sciences.

I think, the bible is a brilliant information/disinformation manual.
Depending on how a person is indoctrinated in relationship to it, it can mean waaay different things.
Plus, for those “fulfilling prophesies by taking human action” the messaging of where any plan might be can be accomplished is using the bible as a code.

Start saying “Operation Sodom and Gommorrah” when looking at open perversion in the streets.
Say “Operation Open Gates of Babylon ” when you think of the open borders.

THEN THINK WHAT HAPPENED NEXT in the story. It is pretty good bet it will be a great “guess” or “fulfillment” of prophecy.

Blessings all!

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Anothermous
November 29, 2023 10:46 pm

If you go by critical Western scholarship (of the past), the only credibly identified author of the NT is Saul of Tarsus for 7-10 epistles. All the other books of the NT have unknown authorship. The genuine Pauline epistles date to roughly 48-60. It makes a lot more sense to suppose that St. Paul started Christianity, and it’s right there in Acts 18. Jews were propagandizing the Roman goy because they had no more immediate way to conquer the Roman Empire. They had to go bottom up because top down was not working. Ruling Romans were pragmatic authoritarians. Apollos was teaching a different propaganda but switched to Paul’s propaganda, presumably because it was more effective. Jews work as one. I think Jesus and his Apostles were entirely made up with the basic outline invented by Saul of Tarsus.

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dating_the_Bible

Anonydork
Anonydork
  'Reality' Doug
November 29, 2023 11:16 pm

They also had to expand the “religion franchises” they ran.
Judaism had become top heavy in priests and hangers on, there were not enough willing to do the manual labor jobs.
By adding a controlled opposition religion, they increased profitability of religion and created an easy back door for creating wars over whose God is true etc.

Excellent point Doug

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Anonydork
November 30, 2023 12:33 pm

The only plausible explanation for Islam (a la Crone and Cook, Hagarism) is that Jews recruited Arabs to take Canaan from the Byzantine Christians. Of course, the new sons of Ishmael kept it for themselves and called themselves Muslims. The Dome of the Rock is the Dome of the Holy of Holies (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_Stone). Increase profitability? How about Jerusalem as the capital of the world with all other goyim (nations) paying their taxes in an endless stream of homage at their Temple (Isaiah 66, verses 10-14, 20). They love collecting taxes, so yes, you are extremely right about the profitability. They want it all.

BL
BL
  'Reality' Doug
November 30, 2023 4:30 pm

RD- The profitability runs back to dynastic ancient Egypt and the Egyptian priesthood. They sold the sheep hundreds of thousands of clay religious idols to “get into heaven” so to speak in their time. Egyptian priest had so much money rolling in the dawn of for profit religion was firmly fixed on the radar, and it is still here.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  BL
November 30, 2023 8:25 pm

BL, I’m not well versed on ancient Egyptian history, but my impression from what I’ve read is that the peons of Egypt did not have it too bad for peons. There was no slave economy in Egypt, which is how we know the 400 years of Hebrew captivity in Egypt did not happen. From what I have read about Sumer and later civilizations in Mesopotamia, the priests were the intellectuals running any of several city-state economies (the idea was aggrandized to the extreme by the Jews for eschatological world domination) and for practical reasons of rites and rationing developed writing. I can see that priests were beneficial at the dawn of civilization, but now? Outdated by truly modern standards (if not before) and yet still going strong. Will humanity evolve beyond religion? Rationals owe it to themselves to be a state within a state for personal advantage and therefore to try to evolve themselves as the next humanity as an automatic co-process on a much greater time scale. Rationalism is only some 2,500 years old. Very young in biological evolutionary time. I am supposing religion is much older than human civilization, which itself is about 5,000 years old. Rationals have all the circumstantial disadvantages of a tiny caste of scattered, isolated newcomers to overcome. And we will.

BL
BL
  'Reality' Doug
November 30, 2023 9:42 pm

RD- For the most part, I believe churches give cohesion to communities and help to keep family units strong. They are supposed to safeguard the sheep against the dark side which you so aptly pointed out many historical attacks in another thread. The church has failed to rail against the degeneracy and that leads to huge tears in the social fabric.

I gave up on organized religion long ago when churches became a business and money became their god. Churches seriously started to fail in the 70’s a victim of pop culture, the south being the bible belt was in better shape til the late 90’s.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  BL
December 1, 2023 12:10 am

I think the Greek Golden Age had no churches to keep families strong. Neither did the Roman Republic. I can see the utility, but that is exactly the problem I have with it. It takes a patriarchy. To keep the family units strong, husbands must be ‘strong’. The deal is I am a soldier in your army while you are a soldier in mine if we share a vital culture. A king needs an army to be sovereign. Husbands are kings of their ‘castles’ if they are not emasculated. Based on the pedigree of Christianity and therefore churches, I don’t know what other outcome could be expected than this. Were the American people more wholesome in the past? Certainly. This is a long decline. You could gather with one or two other people to be two or three gathered together, which may be enough for your purposes. Exposure to toxic people is destructive. The way to beat back the toxicity is to master the so-called dark side of life. I do not want to cede the use of violence to incorporated government or Joooz.

You still wanting to warn the masses? Churches are a reflection of the masses. It’s late. I rambled. I was psychologically abused in childhood and really the social abuse has never stopped. Herd people reject my social norms for self-preservation. I can’t say I pine for the good ole days. I never knew them. I like not running hard the wrong way like my life depends on it. Doing the right thing is BS. I don’t know what you would expect churches to do about the growth of perversion, but I do know what white patriarchy used to do (along with other things less noble I’m sure). Was white patriarchy abusive? Of course. Apparently, white patriarchy was more constructive than other political agencies, going by the result of modernity. It all comes down to organisms, violence, and ecological selection. That simple fact is hidden by mountains of BS. You know who has the best BS and who has led the perversion of a once Christian nation. White people are too nice for their own good. Generations of homeland hegemony makes a soft people. Men accustomed to fighting for themselves are real men. Churches are somewhat like the police.

I got so much crap up here in my head I don’t know what to do with it. Good nite, BL.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  BL
December 2, 2023 10:12 am

Yep, but the clay tablet market probabky reached saturation.
I would imagine sales plummeted when the grain was in low supply.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
November 30, 2023 11:27 am

“Christendom has had a series of revolutions and in each one of them Christianity has died. Christianity has died many times and risen again; for it had a God who knew the way out of the grave.”

― G.K. Chesterton, quote from The Everlasting Man