I watched this segment last night on 60 Minutes. The NYC police department has 50,000 people working for it. They can shoot down a plane. They purposely intimidate the population through displays of force that have nothing to do with any threat. The entire city is under camera surveillance. Where did they get the money to implement this kind of Big Brother city?
I believe that 60 Minutes meant this to be a positive story about the NYC police department. I had a very uneasy feeling after watching this story. The technology implemented reminds me of Orwell’s 1984. Will it be used to foil terrorists or will it be used against the citizens who disagree with the authorities?
What do you think?
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7382308n&tag=contentBody;storyMediaBox
Reason #429 why Ron Paul is awesome.
How can you NOT love this guy??
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Palestinian State?
Tuesday, September 27, 2011
by Ron Paul
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The Palestinian Authority’s recent announcement that it would seek UN recognition as an independent state dominated the news and the political debate in the United States last week, though in truth it should mean very little to us. Only a political class harboring the illusion it can run the world obsesses over the aspirations of a tiny population on a tiny piece of land thousands of miles away. Remember, the UN initiated this persistent conflict with its 1947 Partition Plan.
Unfortunately the debate is dominated by those who either support the Israeli side in the conflict, or those who support the Palestinian desire for statehood. We rarely seem to hear the view of those who support the US side and US interests. I am on that side. I believe that we can no longer police the world. We can no longer bribe the Israelis and Palestinians to continue an endless “peace process” that goes nowhere. It is not in our interest to hector the Palestinians or the Israelis, or to “export” democracy to the region but reject it when people vote the “wrong” way.
I have reservations about the Palestinian drive for UN recognition. Personally I wish the United States would de-recognize the United Nations. As most readers already know, in every Congress I introduce legislation to end our membership in that organization. The UN is a threat to our sovereignty– and as we are the main source of its income, it is a threat to our economic well-being. Increasingly over the past several years, we see the United Nations providing political and legal cover for the military aspirations of interventionists rather than serving as an international forum to preserve peace. Neoconservatives in the US have grown to love the United Nations as they co-opt the organization under the guise of endless “reform.” Under the sovereignty-destroying doctrine of “Responsibility to Protect,” adopted at the 2005 World Summit, the UN takes it upon itself to intervene in internal conflicts of its member states whenever it believes that human rights are being violated. Thus under “Responsibility to Protect,” the UN provides the green light for a kind of global no-knock raid on any sovereign country.
If asked, I would personally counsel the Palestinians to avoid the United Nations. UN membership and participation is no guarantee that sovereignty will be respected. We see what happens to UN members such as Iraq and Libya when those countries’ leaders fall out of favor with US administrations: under US and allied pressure a fig leaf resolution is adopted in the UN to facilitate devastating military intervention. When the UN gave NATO the green light to bomb Libya there was no genocide taking place. It was a purely preventative war. The result? Thousands dead, a destroyed country, and extremely dubious new leaders.
While I do not see UN membership as a particularly productive move for the Palestinian leadership, I do not believe the US should use its position in the UN Security Council to block their membership. I believe in self-determination of peoples and I recognize that peoples may wish to pursue statehood by different means. As we saw after the Cold War, numerous new states were born out of the ruins of the USSR as the various old Soviet Republics decided that smaller states were preferable to an enormous and oppressive multi-national conglomerate.
The real, pro-US solution to the problems in the Middle East is for us to end all foreign aid, stop arming foreign countries, encourage peaceful diplomatic resolutions to conflicts, and disengage militarily. In others words, follow Jefferson’s admonition: “Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.”
America has PTSD. Seriously. America meets all criteria for PTSD.
The essential feature of Posttraumatic Stress Disorder is the development of characteristic symptoms following exposure to an extreme traumatic stressor involving direct personal experience of an event that involves actual or threatened death or serious injury, or other threat to one’s physical integrity; or witnessing an event that involves death, injury, or a threat to the physical integrity of another person; or learning about unexpected or violent death, serious harm, or threat of death or injury experienced by a family member or other close associate (Criterion A1).
The person’s response to the event must involve intense fear, helplessness, or horror (or in children, the response must involve disorganized or agitated behavior) (Criterion A2).
The characteristic symptoms resulting from the exposure to the extreme trauma include persistent reexperiencing of the traumatic event (Criterion B),
persistent avoidance of stimuli associated with the trauma and numbing of general responsiveness (Criterion C),
and persistent symptoms of increased arousal (Criterion D).
The full symptom picture must be present for more than 1 month (Criterion E),
and the disturbance must cause clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning (Criterion F).
America needs to seek professional help for this debilitation disease.
More Police State madness.
Some fucking POS government parasites are going door to door trying to intimidate non-vaccinated students into taking some “mandatory” vaccine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EocQXTZWRBc&feature=player_embedded#!
Submitted by Simon Black of Sovereign Man
Look What I Got For Three Hours, Six Security Checkpoints, And $82…
If you’ve followed this letter for any length of time, you know that I
tend to roam around the world with great frequency; we’ll typically
have these conversations across 40 to 60 countries in 6 continents over a
year’s time.
Lots of international travel means lots of silly stamps, seals, and
stickers to fill up the visa pages in my passports. Even though I have
multiple passports, they tend to fill up within 18-months or so given my
travel schedule.
My current US passport, for example, was issued last February while I
was in Thailand. By late summer, there was barely a single square inch
of space remaining, so today I had the unfortunate displeasure of
heading down to the US consulate in Cape Town to have them insert more
pages.
Each time I’m forced to demean myself in this way– sitting around
those sterile government waiting rooms and filling out useless paperwork
only to justify the salary of some bureaucrat– I have plenty of time to
reflect on the nature of this system.
You see, for hundreds, even thousands of years, people moved about
the earth without any bureaucracy whatsoever. Just like the African
elephants I encountered last week who roam freely between Botswana,
Zambia, and DR Congo, people too used to travel freely without worrying
too much about invisible lines on a map.
Even up until World War I when boundaries between empires were
clearly defined, people could still cross borders without the need of a
passport.
After the war, some do-gooders at the League of Nations decided that
we couldn’t have all those people traveling freely without government
intervention… so they sponsored a series of conferences aimed at
designing an international travel document, and worked to establish
global border checkpoint protocols that required having one.
Of course, all of this bureaucracy is dressed up to make it sound
like it’s for our protection. On the first page of my US passport, for
instance, it says:
“The Secretary of State of the United States of America hereby
requests all whom it may concern to permit the citizen/national of the
United States named herein to pass without delay or hindrance and in
case of need to give all lawful aid and protection.”
Sounds nice enough, right? It sure is great to know the government has our back to make sure we’re safe and sound.
What a total farce. The passport isn’t about the State Department
‘protecting’ us anymore than Homeland Security fondling 4-year old girls
at the airport. It’s about control.
Why else would they implant RFID chips inside passports, or require
biometric data like fingerprints and iris scans? These are all things
that have significant costs… but absolutely zero benefit to taxpayers.
What’s more, these days you can’t even leave most countries unless
you have a passport… ergo you’re forced to APPLY to the government and
give them a host of personal and biometric data just to be able to leave
the country when you want. Land of the free?
Oh, and speaking of free, it ain’t. I’ve had fresh pages inserted
into my passports so many times, I keep watchful eye on the
ever-increasing cost of doing so. Just over 2-years ago, it cost me
nothing at the consulate in Panama. Last year, around $40. Today in
Cape Town? $82.
Needless to say, this is pretty significant price inflation from a
government that pretends inflation doesn’t exist. And I’m pretty sure
everyone on the planet can think of better ways to spend three hours and
82 bucks than on furthering a pointless bureaucracy.
And so… after negotiating the -six- security checkpoints at the
consulate, I walked out of there with a fatter passport and a thinner
wallet, no better than when I had walked in.
This is all a slippery slope… and under the pretext of ‘jobs’ or
‘security’ or a number of other unrelated reasons, it’s likely that the
grip will tigthen. This means higher prices, higher hurdles, more data,
and more bureaucracy.
Imagine not being able to receive a passport until you obtain police clearance. Or perhaps a certificate of tax compliance. Or a DNA sample that ties in with your government medical record. Or simply paying an exorbitant fee.
Nothing is out of bounds for these people.
Ironically, one way that I’ve mitigated the constant encroachment on
my freedom is by obtaining multiple citizenships. Frankly I wish I could
have zero, but it’s nearly impossible to be stateless today.
Rather, having multiple citizenships keeps your options open. You can
always ‘opt out’ if/when I reach my breaking point… but before you can
do that, you have to at least have one alternative.
It’s not as hard or far-fetched as it seems; many people qualify for
dual nationality without even realizing it thanks to a distant relative
or marriage. We’ll talk about how to do that in a future letter. Stay
tuned.
Great thread.
Since the Feds are listening in, and information is being forwarded up the food chain and chain of command, and everyone is being assigned a threat number and color, I leave it to the commander in chief to applaud your attempt at liberty, free speech, and freedom. He’s clapping because you have escaped so far, but not for long.
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Stuck,
Please read for comprehension. I did not say that there not troops were in Europe. I said the US is not POLICING the world—-and followed that by asking if the US is in Australia, Central America, China, Europe, Greenland.
I’ll be glad to recommend a good reading comprehension course if you like.
I get along fine with Teresa. We just happen to disagree here. So fuck off.
The Ron Paul league of curs love to sit back and criticize everything and everyone who does not buy their worldview.
You people love to bitch about how we must close Guantanamo because our soldiers TORTURE prisoners. A fucking lie, of course you know that, unless you call occasional waterboarding torture—LOL.
So, what do we do with the prisoners, geniuses? Put them in American prisons? That’s fucking brilliant. Try them with the rights of American citizens, where many of the cases will be taken pro bono by the ACLU and with a little luck they’ll get an OJ type jury. The detainees cases will cost BILLIONS in taxpayer money and will be dragged out for decades.
Or do we release the prisoners to their own countries? Remember, we have already done this and caught the very same former prisoners again on the field of battle killing Americans.
See, you people have breathtakingly ignorant short term solutions to everything. “Close the bases, bring all troops home immediately.” Are you really that stupid to be unaware of the holocaust that would ignite? How our trade across the globe with hundreds of allies would immediately stop cold and how that would precipitate economic catastrophe in this country? Are you really that fucking stupid?
Do you not think Obama had every intention of shutting Guantanamo? Until he arrived on the scene and people who know better explained to him that this country would be mired in shit as far as the eye can see if he were to do something that fucking stupid.
I realize I am outnumbered probably at least twenty to one on this board. That’s okay. While I could not give less of a shit where my thinking lines up with mainstream America, the fact is that I fall center-right.
The Libertarians are the minority in this country. It may serve you to ponder why that is so. Ron Paul has some good ideas that have spurred debate in some areas. But please don’t delude yourselves into thinking his candidacy will be taken seriously.
Ron Paul has the personality of a dead mackerel.
3 days left for the “imminent” terrorist attack on our great country by the Muslim extremists that are hiding behind every bush. We will not be safe until there is a surveillance camera on every street corner in this great country. We need to quadruple the hiring of police across our great country in order to protect us from every possible threat, real or imagined, that could occur at any moment unless we are ceaselessly vigilant. All hail those great patriots Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz and their brilliant strategy to take the fight to the terrorists. Cost is no object. $1 trillion, $2 trillion, $3 trillion, $10 quadrillion. Whatever it takes to make us safe. Fuck liberty and freedom. Who needs it? As long as there is a thug on the corner of my street protecting me from the terrorists, I’ll sacrifice a little liberty.
Smokey for President in 2012
Davos,
You print a map showing USA worldwide military involvement.
I am going to make the enormous, gargantuan, giant, huge, colossal assumption that Australia and Canada are EXTREMELY happy to have us there as guests.
Fuck, take out Australia, Canada and the USA including Alaska and voila— the countries we have military bases in damn near disappear.
Feel free to wipe your ass with your maps.
You’re math challenged. 156 out of 198 countries is about an 80% occupation rate.
You’re delusional – carpet bombing and bases are NOT fucking embassy’s.
Now, to defend your “logic” your rattling off reasons on why countries want us to be there, which never was in this debate.
Believe in whatever the fuck you want – it is America. I’m believing that we are an empire and that we do police the world.
Davos,
Look at the fucking map. It is color coded.
JFC, how hard can it be to comprehend something that simle.
It’s YOUR map.
simple
Davos,
I agree. It is America. If you want to believe in leprechauns and pixie dust, have at it.
If some rich asshat offered to pay me an exorbitant amount of rent to build a fort in my second shitter I probably wouldn’t fly a Cessna into his office, regardless of the fact that I often pray to the porcelain goddess after my holy activity of binge drinking. Maybe it’s because I’m just not as sensitive to it as the whole Mecca, infidels, LALALALALALA jihad thing.
That being said, we are not a stabilizing force in any of the turbulent parts of the world. We are a scapegoat for indigenous failures and a target. Plus we just can’t afford to pretend we run the world anymore.
Cynical30,
Get your ass out of here. I have my hands full already.
Come back on a thread we agree on.
HAHAHAHAHA! I’ll meet you on the next 30 blocks Smokey. Keep jihadding for that empire!
When I’m sagiin’ in NY, I like to do an MC Hammer jig in front of a camera with one hand on my dick and the other holding a hot-dog from a vigilant vendor like I’m raising the roof.
I meant saggin’.
Smoke My Pole
Okey Dokey. We have about 100,000 troops in Europe — with big guns, big tanks, big planes, and big dicks. They are not policing anything. They are in England for fish and chips, in Germany for Bratwurst and beer, and in Italy for whatever pussy Berlusconi didn’t fuck. Got it.
What the fuck are you bringing up Guantanamo for? Because your other arguments are in the shitter? Who said anything about Guantanamo?
Look at Davos’ map. LOOK at it!! See the light pink countries … it’s the color of your underpants …. there are 156 of them ….. we have troops in those 156 countries. So tell me, you Fucking Genius .. suppose we pull out out troops from Botswana … how will that start a holocaust? hmmm?
I certainly never said pull the US out of every country!! You and your starw man bullshit. Take your own damn Reading For Comprehension course. Of course we need to be in a few countries. Canada for one. Someday we’ll need to steal their resources. Pllus, Canadians generally piss me off. But trust me, we can get out of Botswana … and the other 155 pink countries … you fucken pinko bastard.
DavosSherman
Get an up-to-date map, not that 2002 crap you posted. For example, the map shows we have a military base in Ecuador. Wrong. Ecuadoran President Correa shut down the U.S. presence in Manta, Ecuador in 2009. Two years ago!!!
Now everyone else listen up, because I’m just gonna say this 10 more times. Tops.
Look at the pink-colored countries with U.S. “troops” on the map Davos posted. They include countries like Russia, China, Nepal, and Burma. Do you really think we have “troops” in those countries? Are you kidding me? Fucking China and Burma giving us permission to post “troops” in their countries? Get real.
No, those are U.S. military attaches who have been posted there with the PERMISSION of the host countries. Those host countries have given our military officers PERMISSION to contact and socialize with their military officers. And overtly gather information on the host countries’ armed forces. And the USG has a reciprocal agreement for those countries to post military attaches here in the U.S.
Those U.S. officers are part of a global Defense Attache system, a system that was started by France in the 19th Century. They are not “troops” by any classical definition of the term. So that “U.S. troops in 156 countries” is a ton of bullshit.
Stucky
I think you may have just opened mouth and inserted foot.
You brawlers are forgeting one of my favorite parts of the world: ASIA
Korea:
Active 1954–present
Country United States
Allegiance UNC (Korea)
Type Combined Arms
Size 28,500 personnel
Garrison/HQ Yongsan Garrison, Seoul, Korea
Japan:
As of December 2009, there are 35,688 U.S. military personnel stationed in Japan and another 5,500 American civilians employed there by the United States Department of Defense. The United States Seventh Fleet is based in Yokosuka. The 3rd Marine Expeditionary Force (III MEF) is based in Okinawa. 130 USAF fighters are stationed in the Misawa Air Base and Kadena Air Base.
Total: 64,199 just in Korea/Japan, not including the Philippines. That’s one helluva lot of troops not engaged in war (unless you count N. Korea as another “cold war’)
More than half the number of troops in Iraq/Afghanistan.
AWD
Don’t be providing facts and figures to Smokey. Neo-cons go ballistic when presented with facts. They prefer fantasy storylines, pictures of mushroom clouds, meetings between Atta and Hussein in foreign countries and WMD hidden everywhere.
SSS,
Goddamn, whatever you do do NOT reveal facts on this forum, ESPECIALLY when it renders Davos’s post UTTER SHIT, and likewise Stuck’s ignorant rants.
Do NOT expose the reeking contaminated fucking SHIT that they choose as their sacred beliefs.
Davos and Stuck–a word to the wise—Do NOT get in a pissing match with SSS on this shit. He knows this shit cold and can world-class pack your shit with reasoning and facts.
Stuck—-you claim you have never said close all the bases. Maybe you haven’t. But MANY of the people on this forum have said repeatedly to shut em all and bring ALL of the troops home.
Smokey
We need to bring ALL the troops home to protect you from the imminent terrorist attacks that will be imminent any time now imminently.
SSS,
In your opinion, what overseas prescence is neccesary to guarantee our national interests ?
(Active Military or Covert) ?
Here’s looking forward to Smokey’s weekly football picks.
SSS,
Re—Stuck may have inserted foot into mouth.
In for a penny, in for a pound.
This is a friendly debate. Nothing personal.
You laid it out there—Now BURY HIM!!!!!!! Bust his ass.
I’m tired of running solo here.
Don’t count your chickens yet. We still have 3 1/2 more days.
That’s 3 1/2 more seasons of 24 and my HERO, Jack Bauer.
Of course you wouldn’t know of him.
Never watched that drivel. I prefer Dancing With the Stars and American Idol.
Is this about winning an argument or seeking the truth – which is admitedly subjective.
Smokey, how do you get internet service in the bunker ? Just Curious.
Well, I found out where Dick Cheney spends his time lurking and whose handle he uses.
Smokey’s cat not counting his chickens yet.
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There has not been a terrorist attack in the United States since Jack Bauer first appeared on television.
Actual picture of Smokey awaiting the “imminent” attack and not counting his chickens.
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Smokey’s picture:
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I’m happy a couple of you are getting your rocks off simply because I supposedly put my foot in my mouth.
You know, the bottom line isn’t about light pink, dark pink, or red countries.
The bottom line is the Pie Chart. The USA accounts for 41.5% of GLOBAL military expenditures.
That doesn’t just piss you off?? What are youz guys? Fucking war mongering newcon douchebags?
Anonymous,
I don’t get internet service. I am typing this at the public library. I used to get the service, but when the government passed the Patriot Act, I knew to discontinue my service right away.
The government may have fooled some people with their lies about trying to rein in terrorists and evil doers, but they did not fool me.
I realized that the reason that they passed the Patriot Act was so that they could listen to me talk to my brother about college football, or my other brother about flounder fishing. Or my aunt about the weather, or my grad school buddy about his career. Plus, I am sure they wanted my credit card and checking account numbers so they could pounce.
It took me a while to put it together—-I asked myself why the government would want to eavesdrop on me, when they already take from the private sector all the money they want via ludicrous bank bailouts and exorbitant taxes. And the lawmakers already have an endless supply of hookers, limos, and champagne courtesy of the taxpayer. But then I remembered.
The government went to war to steal other countries’ oil, Bush lied and people died, Americans torture innocent people—so the Patriot Act had to be a ruse, an excuse to pry into the affairs of ordinary citizen’s like me
But they can’t fool me.
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They passed the Patriot Act so they could listen in on Smokey making his college football picks. They wanted to get rich because they knew Smokey’s picks were stone cold locks.
Library my ass. Your at the Cheney residence in Maryland, Wyoming or McLean.
Fucking war monger.
Dick Cheney for POTUS 2012
Tell me who he’ll be taking hunting and I’ll tell you if I’m voting for the fucking whack-job-neo-con
Anon
As I’ve said on several occasions in the past, the U.S. does not need to have troops stationed in places like the UK, Germany, Turkey, Korea (AWD take note), and Japan (AWD take note again). Those countries can well enough defend themselves.
But “bringing all the troops home now” is insane. Smokey got it right when he mentioned alliances and TRADE. The U.S. can ensure the safety of not only its trade, but also global trade, by posting military forces overseas where it makes sense. To me, that means naval bases in Spain and Italy for the eastern Atlantic and Mediterranean trade routes, Djibouti and Diego Garcia (UK possession) for the Suez Canal and Middle Eastern oil shipping lanes, and Guam (US possession) for the western Pacific trade routes. Pearl Harbor and our West Coast naval bases can cover the rest of the Pacific. And who else can be posted at those naval bases? Can you say “Marines?”
Make sense to anyone else? I hope so.
Smokey
One “small” correction to what you wrote above to TeresaE, “I’m not sure you or I know exactly what was in the Founding Fathers minds when they wrote the Constitution.”
Uh, yes, we do know what was in their minds. It’s called The Federalist Papers, written anonymously at the time by James Madison, Alexander Hamilton, and John Jay after the Constitution was published. It’s all there. “This is why we wrote it the way we did.”
SSS,
My statement directed to TeresaE was very accurate and I stand by it.
“I am not sure you or I know exactly what was in the Founding Fathers minds when they wrote the Constitution.”
Please notice the “you or I”.
Smokey obliterated by the wise old man of TBP – SSS
Smokey the cur scampers away with his tail between his legs.
@ Stucky
That video about the school district in California going door to door is some bullshit! Leave it to someone in California to come up with this shit!
Did they not think this out?
“Knock, knock”
“Who is it?”
“I’m from the Government and I’m here to inject your daughter with some goodies”
They didn’t think this would work did they? I’d love for someone to come knock on my door and ask why my kids aren’t getting the TDAP or swine flu vaccines….
Jim, careful , we need Smokey’s predictions for the week so we can bet against him. It’s a lock.
Administrator,
SSS is indeed the wise old man of TBP.
But I bet after reading my response he’d love to take his statement back.
Because the truth is that I know next to nothing about the Federalist Papers, and I seriously doubt TeresaE does either, based on her comment.
So I have no problems standing by my original statement.
The Federalist Papers were written by terrorists. If we had only had DHS and the CIA and surveillance cameras, these tri-hatted terrorists could have been subdued. Then the militarisitc imperial power that you admire so much could have retained power and control over those damned colonies who didn’t realize the imperialist power was just protecting them.
If carpet bombers are “embassies” then the fucking DHS and CIA are probably the unemployment office and the food stamp office.
The Revolutionary war was an ILLEGAL war.
We were part of England, a sovereign nation. We should have marched and protested the war in the streets. And then we should have put on the FRONT page of every colony’s newspaper the names of every British citizen that was MURDERED by the outlaw Americans. And we should have stressed that members of our colonies were MURDERING freedom-fighters.
Every member of the British who had an open wound fester more than three minutes would appropriately be deemed to have been tortured by our murderers.
We should have made certain that each citizen talked constantly to their neighbors about how our people were MURDERING and torturing INNOCENT soldiers. The largest priority of the citizens should have been to UNDERMINE and motherfuck the war effort, using any means possible.
The national dialogue should have been that all of our colonies were inhabited by murderers whose ultimate objective included setting up a system for the new government to spy on it’s population through paid informants.
Smokey’s heroes:
King George, King Dick Cheney, Lord Cornwallis, Lord Patreaus
He still declares that the British Surge of 1779 was successful.
If your’re not totally shitfaced, please drink – a lot – and try to make that point again.
If you are totally shitfaced please try after coffee tomorrow morning.
Thank you.
There are parallels in my Revolutionary story and today’s Iraq.
How our soldiers today are routinely called, by some Americans, “murderers of innocent people”.
How the Iraq and Afghanistan war has been motherfucked and undermined by the news media in this country.
How some people in this country gleefully brag that Americans torture “innocent” freedom fighters from other countries.
How a running body count has been conducted on the front pages of newspapers in the US over many years.
BTW, SSS pretty much exposed that chart for what it is.
My Revolutionary tale was not my logic. It is the perverted logic of the Ron Paul curs. I could give less of a shit about England.
Hitler on the move in WW II.
I can hear the Ron Paul curs now. “Neville Chamberlain is a man of vision, substance.”
“Leave Hitler alone. That’s none of our business over there.”
“We deserved to get bombed at Pearl Harbor because of our interventionist policies. We need to stay in our own country and look out for our people.”
All, while keeping their hands firmly covering their nuts. But, Goddamn, don’t hit back for Pearl Harbor.
Then when we got into that war, “We’re empire building. Imposing our ideology on the world.”
Ever hear of a stingray? It’s the new way Big Brother can track you! It has been going on for years and this is the first case, in Arizona being held before a federal judge.
(3min video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iAmNqqV5DJ0
This is where the massive servers come into play. Storage of information, however irrelevant at the time can always be mined at a later time for WHATEVER reason.
Too much is too much!
I’m tired of bashing all of you helpless curs.
If you are not on life support tomorrow at the ICU of your local hospital, I’ll be glad to bash you some more.
BTW, Administrator, I gave you a pass today.
How’s your FXP lately? I’m sure China is at the brink, getting ready to crash any day.
Smokey
Thanks for asking about FXP.
July 1 $26.43
Today $38.61
Three month return = 46%
Of course, I did sell one third of my postion last week at $42.50. No need to be a pig.
I have a GTC order in to sell some more at $50. I expect that will kick in within the next 90 days.