Here is how Common Core “works“:
Pretty simply, right…? Here are a few more examples:
I only have a degree in Mechanical Engineering so please explain to me; what the fuck is a Subtraction Sentence????
This is exactly the type of higher level math that prepares one for college and a good career (sigh….).
This is what happens when the same douchenozzles that brought us Obama-Care get more involved in the public/government school system.
LLPOH
Having to report your tips is the crime. There isn’t a server on the planet that claims 100% of their tips.
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Billy, notwithstanding, I tell my wife that we always get better service from white cashiers. A xmas part timer who happened to be Hispanic, told my wife we were stealing from Macy’s by reuising a one time use coupon. My wife said the white girls always give her the coupon back. As we left, I told my wife, you’re stealing from Mr. Macy. Then I said, I suppose Mr. Macy would rather have that extra sale than hold on to unsold merchandise.
Input A = 26
Input B=17
Remove all but last digit of A (A now = 6)
Round a to nearest ten (A =6+4)
(A now = 10)
Subtract 4 from B (17) = 13
Add 20 back to A (A now = 30)
Add A+B (30+13=43)
just transposing numbers.
Add 4 to 26 (30) and remove 4 from 17 (13)
Weird way to do it but that is all it is.
Anon
I have no idea what you just said.
LIpoh , your so easy All it takes is a little push but you are probably right about bitcoin.Some genius will come along and figure out a better way than bitcoin
Punk, same thing as take 4 from 17 and add to 26 to make 30. Then add the 13 that’s left to make 43.
They’re just adding separate steps to make it more difficult.
A thief is one who steals. Here is the definition of stealing:
: to take (another person’s property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it.
I did not take property without permission. Quite the contrary. I also had legal right to take said property, as I paid the invoice for the goods in question.
Further, re moral code, I: 1) gave opportunity to correct the error, and 2) as a customer, I do not wish to be involved in conflict of any sort, which I have often found to be the case with regard to correcting these kinds of errors.
So, with regard to moral, that is an interesting question. By giving the an opportunity to correct, I believe that I indeed did more than required.
By attributing a moral-ness or ethical-ness to this matter does that means that I have the moral and ethical responsibility to correct mistakes made by others, especially if I am the beneficiary of that mistake, and without reference to whether or not so doing costs me anything personaly – ie stress, etc.? I think not.
I suggest that it is to draw a very long bow indeed to attribute moral/ethical principles to this, as it implies I have a duty re the actions of others.
I have a clear duty re actions I take – not to steal, cheat, lie, adulter, etc. But do I have a duty to correct the mistakes of others? Just where would that duty end? What mistakes should I correct? Only the ones that benefit me? The ones that adversely affect me or others? Do I have a moral/ethical duty to turn Clammy into the IRS because she is an admitted tax evader?
No. I have a duty re my own actions. I do not fully ascribe to any duty to correct the mistakes of others.
Llpoh- TL; DR You are a thief.
Coyote – seems to me that employees from Macy’s were encouraging you to re-use the coupon, and or were re-issuing a new one to you. You were certainly not stealing anything. You ahd Macy’s full approval.
Punk – the crime is tipping. I absolutely believe tipping should be abolished. Most countries I visit do not have tipping. Great slabs of tax money is lost as a result of non-reporting, and it separates business owners from their duty to pay their employees. Plus it is a pain in the ass to do – just present the bill. Why should food service be different than any other business? Do you get tipped every time you clean a room? This is the service/good supplied, and this is the bill. How easy is that?
While all of the monkees are out in force sticking a finger up their ass and ridiculing this “new math” they are in turn showing their ignorance. This is the essence of math- developing an understanding in an intuitive way that works for you.
Of the three examples the last is the most relevant way that I do math in my head. The first two not so much. But I will not deny that those who are inclined to approach a formula as in the first two examples are going to be any less accurate or confused.
lpoh
says:
“Unbelievable.
Must be a joke.
Mustn’t it?”
God Bless Llpoh. Once again he alone has shown a face of semi-reason in this out of control retard-fest. He alone did not give unequivocal denunciation to this math-based shitstorm.
Does anyone here think that Clammy does math in her head like Einstein. Well not me either, but I’ll bet you that if she handed you a bill for $47.15 and you gave her $63.65 and told her to keep the change, she would in a heartbeat be able (by whatever thought process she has been accustomed to) calculate her tip to the penny and still whine. This is the nature of math. Since it is all in our head we can conjure up our own ways of understanding it.
Give me 42 degrees Celsius and I will double it, (84) subtract 10% (8.4) and add 32 and get 107.6 Farenheit. Beats the shit out of – lets see
42×9 = (what the fuck, I need a pen) … ok so that’s 378.
Then divide that by 5… okaaay thats 77.2
and add 32. Whahoolaa… 107.6F
God Bless you fucking retards.
Why would I complain about a 16.50 tip on a 47 dollar check. That is well over 20% and it is in cash so it is not automatically claimed in full.
Clammy – you use words you do not know the meaning of. Regularly. Frequently. Often.
Do yourself a favor, and educate yourself. You really should be embarrassed at how illiterate you are.
I clearly demonstrated that am not a thief. You, if you have really good skills re morality/ethics, could possibly mount an argument that I behaved immorally/unethically, but to do so would be far beyond your intellect and education. Plus the moral/ethical argument is always likely to fail as it would by necessity confer upon people the obligation to correct the mistakes of others, and/or to argue that passivity is immoral/unethical, which is equally difficult to argue in most instances.
You are pissed because of your student loans. What you should be angry about is the time you wasted getting your “degree”. You wasted years of opportunity – while you were banging every Tom, Dick, and Hairy, you should have educated yourself.
Someone who has wished me dead on many occasions labelling me a thief, or immoral/unethical, is indeed hilarious.
Sigh, once again llpoh TL;DR
I think the cashier just gave llpoh the automatic 60% off Native American Discount. It’s like the free dining room set I got from Monkey Wards. They missed three scheduled delivery times, dropped one of the chairs down my steps and never sent me a bill. There’s only so much work a person should have to do to get someone to take your money.
Off topic, but I’ve figured out how to get even with the grocery stores that want to force everyone to use the self-checkout lines (even though they’re way slower): Buy a shitload of bulk organic vegetables and then ring them up yourself as conventional. The wife gets her goddamned organic vegetables and the store takes a loss for replacing workers with robots. Truth be told, I only did this once and it was an accident, but it got me to thinking…
LLPOH
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“Why would I complain about a 16.50 tip on a 47 dollar check. That is well over 20% and it is in cash so it is not automatically claimed in full.” -the clam
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Punk – I do not know what you are referencing. Looks like the guy is rolling a booger.
You know me – pays to be careful just in case I misinterpret a bit of fun for poking me with a stick. And you know what that gets you.
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Crazyivan- You can always get bread stick and salad (or soup if you got it) to go. It is company policy.
Really? Damn. Watch this then.
Sometimes, the New Math is as bad as the Old Math. Just as Ma and Pa Kettle…
You are out of your mind if you think I have never seen Reservoir Dogs.
Punk – now I remember. I know waitresses rely on tips. The whole system needs to be changed. Time to move on. Pay them a real wage based on what the market will pay.
Tips have gone from 10% to 12 to 15 to 20%.
Put up the cost of the meal and pay them appropriately.
llpoh- You would never have anyone do that work with a standard wage. It is not worth it. No tips, no hiding tips, not worth it. I have never waited tables with less than a 10 dollar average. That 10 average was in 2006. At OG I always averaged 15-20 dollars an hour. I only worked 20 hours a week as a server. Even after tip outs and taxes, it was barely worth the effort.
Llpoh, the French are way ahead of you. You do not tip in France; french waiters are purely paid on salary. French waiters are internationally renowned for their hospitality.
Z – I responded to that bullshit comment previously. How long since you were in France? I was there recently, and service was great.
Plus, the same stereotype exists for ALL French workers, yet you choose the only one to compare against US workers who get tipped.
In general, the French would not be considered above the US in most fields – especially ones wher US workers do not get tipped. So your point is bullshite.
Okay take A=32 and B =12
A – B = C (20)
*rnd B ^
B+ 3 = 15
*rnd B ^
B + 5 = 20
*rnd B ^
B + 10 = 30
*rnd B ^ !< A
B +2 = A
seems like a lesson in logic or writing code more than adding 1+2
The proof is adding the rounded or "cored" numbers
3+5+10+2=C (20)
“During this time we walked about three or four miles carrying our tools and supplies as we went. For lunch we ate roasted pork from the pigs we raised and sweet pickles my wife made last summer from our garden and hot tea from a thermos sweetened with maple syrup the cattle watching from the ridge above. It snowed for about five or six hours; big, fat, puffy flakes like something from a Dr Seuss book and then the Sun came out and the clouds started scutting across the sky like they had a plan, grey at first and then turning pink and purple with the late afternoon light.”
—-hardscrabble farmer
Jesus Christ, Scrabble. Write a fucking book. And when you hit the big time, don’t forget your friends here on TBP.
Okay, everyone who thinks French waiters are helpful, patient and friendly, please raise your hand.
They have already removed history, replacing it with “social studies” and “world cultures”, thereby removing the ability of entire generations to put current events into context.
It was only a time before they targeted math.
Unluckily for us, science is still going strong, albeit a bastardized version of it. Every high school student will graduate “knowing” that we pretty much need to stop breathing, in order to “save the planet.” That’s right, we need to “save” this inanimate hunk of rock hurling around a giant molten ball of fusion. Carbon is killing it. At least they will know all about that.
Only people allowed to vote must have been thee in last 12 months. I was surprised as anyone at the vast improvement I saw.
But it is fun to taunt the French.
SSS
“Jesus Christ, Scrabble. Write a fucking book. And when you hit the big time, don’t forget your friends here on TBP.”
this is the second time I read of clouds scutting across the sky, the first being in IQ84. I don’t know what the word means but it sounds cool, like the surfer word ‘snorking’.
@ Llpoh and Stephanie
What goes around, comes around. Carry on, you two.
Scutting:
scutting
Definition
Slang
noun: having sex. The term was recorded in the Midlands and north of England in 2004, usually in the noun form although occasionally as the transitive or intransitive verb scut. It may be an arbitrary coinage, or a dialect term perhaps related to scut meaning the short tail of a rabbit or deer.
So hardscrabble is talking about clouds humping. Hmmm. Not sure that is what he wanted to say. Perhaps he meant scuttling.
Scut, as in scut work, is work that is boring/routine. Scut also means an erect tail. In any event, I cannot find it as a verb anywhere, other than the one I posted above.
Best I can determine, there really is no such word as “scutting”. He either made it up, or meant scuttling.
I kinda like to think he meant clouds were humping, but I doubt that is it.
Whichever, it was a really fine post.
On tipping. Llpoh, I would generally defer to your wisdom because you are a curmudgeonly bastard like me. On tipping, I have to disagree. Here’s my reasoning. I’d rather shop at a store where the sales people get commission. Best Buy went to hell when they got rid of commissioned sales men (and yes they were mostly men). They could tell you the best audio gear and they gave a crap. Now they just mill around trying to look busy so they don’t get fired. Your recent French experience notwithstanding, people generally will work better for merit pay. The other thing is that after all the years of tipping in this country, people will feel that they should tip anyway. It’s like going to an all inclusive resort in the Caribbean. Even if they say “no tipping allowed”, people will tip, so you don’t want to not tip, so everyone will tip and then employers will (rightly) be able to pay less. So we end up right back where we started. France is different because they never did tipping. You may be right in the abstract, but we can’t unscramble that egg.
@ Thinker
You figured out who I am on another thread. I slipped up and gave you a clue that you jumped on like white on rice. Congrats.
SSS – I have done beat her senseless. You should see how punchy she is of late. She cannot string two words together.
There are those who say she has always been thus. But I believe it is a result of the beatings I have administered.
Iska – no problem with merit pay. I endorse it. But the employer should pay it, not the customer.
Just when have you ever paid an employee’s bonus when you were the customer? Hmmm? Riddle me that. Well, the answer is NEVER. The employer pays the bonus to the employee for extra sales, better quality, etc. The exception being some service industries.
Tipping transfers the payment obligation from the employer to the customer. And that blows.
Perhaps the egg cannot be unscrambled – I think it can as all it would take would be to eliminate tje ridiculously low minimum wage for food servers – but I damn guarantee I am not buying into the steady “increases” that staff expect – 10 to 12 to 15 to 20% over the years. Screw that. No reason percentages should keep going up – the increase in prices cover their increases. Average service gets 12 from me, but rare indeed do I consider more than 15.
Well, I’ll agree with you on this much, llpoh. If Obama were to somehow enact a $10.10 national minimum wage that did not have a carve out for waitrons, I would immediately stop tipping. Prices would immediately go up to cover the the higher mandate wage, and I wouldn’t mind teaching the server demographic the danger of voting for the likes of Obama (which I’m sure most of them did, if they voted at all).
So is this math-bonics? I can this now…. some knucklehead from the UnDepartment of Edumikation has discovered an even more effed up way to do something that should be…. plain and simple arithmetic. I am not saying that we shouldn’t keep up with making head way in how a subject is taught… but this is just ridiculous. Oh well…. our education system is leading the industrialized world. Oh wait a minute….. it isn’t…. our system is sucking wind.
Correction: I can see this now…. 🙂
merit pay?
There was a time when I had a profit sharing scheme in place.
I had employees who had the same attitude as Clammy. “I deserve the bonus because I am doing all the work. The others don’t deserve as much.” Soon the level of effort went down because if they were all getting the same bonus then they could depend on the others to do the work.
So much for profit sharing.
Profit sharing I do not endorse. My experience is the same as Leos. But I am happy to pay performance targets pay, where appropriate. Profit sharing sucks from my experience.
Why do politicians hate teachers so much? Every law they pile on disempowers the teachers.
Here’s how to correct the problem: eliminate every single law involving education and let the teachers teach.
I bet you could take a random selection of teachers (or better yet, the least regarded teachers) in a district, give them the least regarded students, let them loose for 2 years and the results would amaze.
Scutting means humping? News to me. I always thought it refered to clouds that look spaced out above you, but when you look to the horizon where they are headed they appear to come together as a single form. Then there’s scut, or lowly and dirty as in “scut work”, like mopping a latrine.
Dunno, sounds cool, gonna keep using it anyway.
I emailed the problems at the top of the thread to my Father. He was an early writer of Cobol code and does huge sums in his head without error as a parlor trick.
He said it looked like “math by concensus”.
Ineptitude is contagious and the Federal government is the vector.
RE ILPOH, I have never heard of a clerk being made to pay drawer shortages. I worked as a cashier in my early youth in a major department store, and it was expected that new girls would make mistakes under pressure and come up either under or over their balance rather frequently, as the traffic was heavy and you were moving very fast.It was expected, however, that you would have your act together after a week or two, and be able to move fast without making errors. The boss would watch to see how you were counting back change and organizing your drawer. You counted it back the old-fashioned way. If she saw that you had a disorganized, messy drawer or were counting your change carelessly, you were called on this. If an employee continued to ring up massive imbalances in her drawer after working there two weeks, she was canned, that’s all.
this whole thing came from a discussion over lunch at work, a co-worker’s son is having this pushed onto them and she was trying to explain it to us (a group in which almost every person has a degree in engineering or comp science) and we jsut couldn’t understand so she looked up some examples similar to what her son is bringing home and emailed them to us. The consensus was WTF and laughter ensued.
what i find appauling about this type of math instruction isn’t even that it is being pushed as “a” method.
different people think and learn differently, this method might be the best way for some.
my problem is that this method is being pushed as “the” methodology, one size fits all; per the edjimikation czars. this is the only way govt knows how to work.
I try not to subsrcibe to conspiracies but i struggle to imagine a system of learning that would fail worse than this which means that it is deliberate. i am mostly joking as i say that but seeing the shit that goes on in this country maybe it isn’t crazy. i’d be interested to see if the private schools (like Chote) that politicians and other elites’ kids go to are implementing this as well.
appalling
Does anyone recall the time when cashiers would hand you the coins first so that you could put them in your pocket or change purse, then the bills? Today they do the exact opposite, hand you a sheaf of bills with the coins placed in the center like a sliding board which frequently results in coins falling onto the counter or the floor, but in every case requires the customer to set aside his belongings in order to take care of the change, then place the bills away.
It’s not a big deal in the overall scheme of things but it is one of those petty annoyances that puts the customer out at the convenience of the clerk.
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