NO ONE EVER WON A WAR BY DYING FOR THEIR COUNTRY

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a cruel accountant
a cruel accountant
June 7, 2014 10:36 am

One of the most pro military industrial complex speeches ever..

AWD
AWD
June 7, 2014 11:02 am

Obama has committed and gotten away with three acts of treason. He needs to be tried for treason and jailed/executed, before he further destroys the economy, sovereignty and people of this nation. If Patton or Eisenhower were alive today, the would take over the government via a military coup.

bb
bb
June 7, 2014 1:19 pm

Eisenhower , the nation really needs leaders like him.

Econman
Econman
June 7, 2014 2:52 pm

THE LIES GROW MORE AUDACIOUS

by PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS | JUNE 7, 2014

If there were any doubts that Western “leaders” live in a fantasy make-believe world constructed out of their own lies, the G-7 meeting and 70th anniversary celebration of the Normandy landing dispelled the doubts.

The howlers issuing from these occasions are enough to split your sides. Obama and his lap dog Cameron described the Normandy landing on June 6, 1944, as “the greatest liberation force that the world has ever known” and took all the credit for the US and Britain for the defeat of Hitler. No mention was made of the Soviet Union and the Red Army, which for three years prior to the Normandy landing had been fighting and defeating the Wehrmacht.

The Germans lost World War II at the Battle of Stalingrad, which was fought from August 23, 1942 until February 2, 1943, when most of the remnants of the powerful German Sixth Army surrendered, including 22 generals.

Nineteen months previously the largest invasion force ever assembled on planet earth invaded Russia across a one thousand mile front. Three million crack German troops; 7,500 artillery units, 19 panzer divisions with 3,000 tanks, and 2,500 aircraft rolled across Russia for 14 months.

By June 1944, three years later, very little of this force was left. The Red Army had chewed it up. When the so-called “allies” (a term which apparently excludes Russia) landed in France, there was little to resist them. The best forces remaining to Hitler were on the Russian front, which collapsed day by day as the Red Army approached Berlin.

The Red Army won the war with Germany. The Americans and the British showed up after the Wehrmacht was exhausted and in tatters and could offer little resistance. Joseph Stalin believed that Washington and London stayed out of the war until the last minute and left Russia with the burden of defeating Germany.

Hollywood and popular writers have, of course, buried the facts. Americans have all sorts of movies, such as “A Bridge Too Far,” that portray insignificant events, however heroic, as turning points in the war. Nevertheless, the facts are clear. The war was won on the Eastern front by Russia. Hollywood’s movies are fun, but they are nonsense.

Russia is again on the outs with “the world community,” because Obama’s plan to seize Ukraine and to evict Russia from its Black Sea base in Crimea has come a cropper. Crimea has been a part of Russia for as long as the US has existed. Khrushchev, a Ukrainian, stuck Crimea into the Ukrainian Socialist Republic in 1954 when Russia and Ukraine were part of the same country.

When the Washington-imposed stooge government in Kiev recently declared that it was abolishing the use of the Russian language and arresting Ukrainians who had dual Russian citizenship and began tearing down Russian war memorials consecrated to the liberation of Ukraine from the Nazis, the people in Crimea used the ballot box to disassociate from Washington’s stooge government in Kiev, first voting their independence and then voting for reunification with their mother country.

Washington, and the other G-7 countries following Washington’s orders, described this Crimean act of self-determination, which is exactly comparable to the act of self-determination declared by Britain’s American colonies, to be a case of “Russian invasion and annexation.” Similar efforts to disassociate from Kiev are underway in other former Russian territories that today comprise eastern and southern Ukraine. Washington has equated self-determination in eastern and southern Ukraine with “terrorism” and has encouraged its stooge in Kiev to use military violence against protesting civilians. The reason for branding separatists “terrorists” is to make it OK to kill them.

It is extraordinary to any learned person that the President of the United States and the titular heads of state of the Western European countries would publicly declare such blatant lies to the world. The world has historians. The world has peoples whose knowledge vastly exceeds that of the “mainstream media,” a.k.a., the Ministry of Propaganda, or, as Gerald Celente brands them, “the presstitutes.” Whatever name we use, the Western media is a collection of well paid whores.They lie for money, dinner party invitations, and speaking invitations with large honorariums and book contracts with large advances.

I know. They tried to recruit me.

Notice how narrowly Washington defines “the world community.” The “world community” consists of the Group of 7. That’s it. Seven countries make up the “world community.” The “world community” consists of six white countries and Washington’s puppet state of Japan. The “world community” is the US, Canada, Britain, Germany, France, Italy, and Japan. The other 190 countries are not part of Washington’s “world community.” In the neocon doctrine, they are not even part of humanity.

The “world community” doesn’t have the population of single excluded countries, such as China or India. I haven’t done the calculation, but probably the land mass of Russia itself exceeds the land mass of the “world community.”

So, what is this “world community?”

The “world community” is the assemblage of US vassal states. Britain, France, and Germany were important on the 20th century scene. Their histories are studied in universities. The populations had a decent standard of living, although not for all citizens. Their past is the reason for their present importance.

In effect, these countries were propelled forward by history, or by the history important to the West. Japan, being an appendage of Washington, has tried to become “western.” It is extraordinary how such a proud, war-like people became nothing.

As I have finally stopped laughing at the presumed non-role of Russia in the defeat of Hitler, let’s return to the G-7 meeting. The Big Happening of this meeting was Russia’s exclusion and the shrinkage of the G-8 to the G-7.

This was the first time in 17 years that Russia was not allowed to participate in the meeting of which Russia is a member. Why?

Russia is being punished. Russia is being isolated from the 7 countries that the White House Fool thinks constitute “the world community.”

Obama is angry that his National Security Council and the morons he appointed to the State Department and UN were so poorly educated that they did not know that much of the Ukraine consists of former Russian provinces inhabited by Russians. These ignorant Obama-appointed morons thought that they could grab Crimea, evict Russia, and leave Russia without access to the Mediterranean, thus unable to hold on to its naval base in Tartus, Syria, the easier for Washington to invade Syria.

Crimea has been part of Russia since Russia completed the reconquest from the Tartars. I remember the Tarter, or Tater, ethnics from my visit to Tamerlane the Great’s (Timur as he was also known) tomb in Samarkand 53 years ago. Today Tamerlane’s city is refurbished as a tourist site. 53 years ago it was a desolate place in ruins, overgrown with trees growing out of the tops of the minarets.

As Obama’s plan to seize Ukraine failed, like every one of his other plans has failed, Washington’s spokesmen for the vested private interests have seized on the opportunity to demonize Putin and Russia and to restart the Cold War. Obama and his Group of 7 puppets or vassals used the occasion to threaten Russia with real sanctions, in place of the present propaganda sanctions that have no effect. According to Obama and his British lap dog, Putin must somehow prevent the Russian populations of eastern and southern Ukraine from protesting their subservience to a neo-fascist government in Kiev backed by Washington, or else.

Putin is supposed to embrace the Oligarch, a former minister of the government that Washington overthrew, put in office by a fake vote in which turnout was a small percent of the population. Putin is supposed to kiss this corrupt Oligarch on both cheeks, pay Ukraine’s natural gas bills and forgive its debts. In addition, Russia is supposed to repudiate the Crimean people, evict them from their re-unity with Russia and hand them over to the neo-Nazi Right Sector to be eliminated as retribution for Russia’s victory over Nazi Germany, for whom some Western Ukrainians fought. In exchange, Washington and NATO will put anti-ballistic missile bases on Ukraine’s border with Russia in order to protect Europe from nonexistent Iranian nuclear ICBMs.

This is supposed to be a win-win deal for Russia.

The Obama regime used its well-paid NGOs in Ukraine to overthrow an elected, democratic government, a government no more corrupt than those in Western or Eastern Europe or Washington.

The political morons who have England, France, Germany, and Italy in their hands are wagging their fists at Russia, warning of more, this time real, sanctions. Do these morons really want their energy supplies cut off? There is no prospect, despite the propagandistic claims, of Washington supplying the energy on which Germany industry depends and on which Europeans depend so that they do not freeze in the winter.

Sanctions on Russia will wreck Europe and have little, if any, effect on Russia. Russia is already moving, with China and the BRICS, outside the dollar payments mechanism.

As the demand for dollars drops, the dollar’s exchange value will drop. Initially, Washington will be able to force its vassals to support the dollar, but eventually this will become impossible.

What the White House Fool, the neoconized National Security Council, the presstitute media, and subservient Congress are doing is to support and uphold the policies based on hubris and arrogance that are leading the US into the abyss.

An abyss is like a black hole. You don’t get out.

Washington’s lies are so blatant and transparent that Washington is destroying its own credibility. Consider the NSA spying. Documents released by Snowden and Greenwald make it completely clear that Washington spies not only on government leaders and ordinary people but also on foreign businesses in order to advance US commercial and financial interests. That the US steals Chinese business secrets is not in doubt. So what does Washington do? Washington not only denies what the documents prove but turns the charge around and indicts five Chinese generals for spying on US corporations.

The only purpose of these indictments hyped by the US attorney general is propaganda.The indictments are otherwise totally meaningless, not merely false. China is not about to turn over five Chinese generals to the liars in Washington. For the presstitute media the story is a way to move the NSA’s spying out of the spotlight. China is substituted for the NSA as the guilty party.

Why doesn’t China, Brazil, Germany and every other country issue arrest warrants for NSA’s top officials, for Obama, and for the members of the congressional oversight committee? Why do other countries always allow Washington to control the explanation with propaganda first strikes?

Americans are very susceptible to propaganda. They seem to have a special taste for it. Consider the hate whipped up against Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, a US soldier just released by the Taliban in a prisoner exchange with the US. The hatred and bloodlust that the presstitute media have whipped up against Bergdahl has caused his hometown to cancel the celebration of his release. The press engineered hatred of Bergdahl has spilled over into threats against Hailey, Idaho.

What is the basis for the attacks on Bergdahl? Apparently, the answer is that Bergdahl, like pro-football star Pat Tillman who turned down a $3.6 million contract to join the Army Rangers and go to defend freedom in Afghanistan, came down with a case of doubts about the war. Originally Pat Tillman’s death was attributed to his heroic action and enemy fire. Then it emerged that Tillman was a victim of “friendly fire.” Many concluded that he was murdered, because the government did not want a sports hero speaking out about the war. As Bergdahl is off the battlefield, he has to be murdered in the press–like Russia, China, Iran, Putin, Assad, Crimeans, and the Russian-speaking population in Ukraine.

In America hate and the cultivation of hate is alive and well. But not a single moral virtue is.

Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal. He was columnist for Business Week, Scripps Howard News Service, and Creators Syndicate. He has had many university appointments. His internet columns have attracted a worldwide following. Roberts’ latest books are The Failure of Laissez Faire Capitalism and Economic Dissolution of the West and How America Was Lost.

Econman
Econman
June 7, 2014 2:55 pm

I don’t usually post long stuff, but Veterans I know & have respect for are pissed the idiots in DC are heading for war against a country that, without their help, Hitler probably would’ve won WWII. Debatable yes, but not crazy like most Americans think.

SSS
SSS
June 7, 2014 9:21 pm

“Eisenhower, the nation really needs leaders like him.”
—-bb

WTF? Who voted that comment down? Just because it was bb? Damn, that’s beyond stupid.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
June 7, 2014 10:21 pm

SSS said:
“WTF? Who voted that comment down?”

I don’t play the thumbsy game so it twasn’t I but I agree with the sentiment. A broken clock is right twice a day so village ignotwit bb is bound to get one right by pure chance on occasion.

I know that TBP is much more enjoyable since I quit reading his comments months ago.

Kill Bill
Kill Bill
June 7, 2014 11:32 pm

A broken digital clock is never right.

It just says 88:88

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
June 8, 2014 12:30 am

Given enough time, Earth’s rotation will slow to 88:88.

Billy
Billy
June 8, 2014 12:35 am

Econ,

Why not just bust out the old canard “We’d all be speakin’ GERMAN raht now if not fer our boys!”

Yeah. The same Germany that couldn’t get across 15 miles of English Channel to beat up on one stinkin’ island was somehow going to cross 3000 miles of open ocean with a big enough logistical train to invade a country where literally everyone owns a rifle.

And that blowhard you posted gives way too much credit to a bunch of conscripted Russians and no credit at all to what turned out to be the coldest winter in a hundred years – and the fact that the Germans had no serious cold weather gear. Many were found frozen to death in summer uniforms. I suppose Roberts will credit the weather to the Soviets as well… and what about the poor peasant bastards who were so mistreated by Uncle Joe & Co. that they welcomed the Germans as saviors when they first arrived…

I’m not faulting him bagging on Obongo. I’m faulting his laughably childlike grasp of history. But then, he is an economist…

And Patton might have been a good general, but he was also more or less an opportunistic dirtbag lickspittle who had no problem throwing his own under the bus if doing so advanced his career. Bonus Army anyone? Him, Mac and Eisenhower were all there and rode against their own while Congress hid in their little bitch hidey-holes… and less than 10 years later, Mac is running shit in the Pacific, Eisenhower is running shit in Europe and Patton is tear-assing around the countryside in a tank, looking for the shit with nice, shiny stars on his shoulders… not bad for a guy who was just a Major in 1933.

Apparently, being the willing tool of a bunch of craven fucks has it’s benefits if you’re willing to eat your own.

Coyote
Coyote
June 8, 2014 1:33 am

Nice one, Billy and if you’d gone on to mention all the technology and medical knowledge we got from the Jerry s it would make for a longer piece. Then do go on about how they fucked Germany after both world wars and then came begging for her to save Europe 70 years later.

Not taking sides but I do like a fair and balanced approach. I don’t recall who it was that expressed admiration for the German advance on Russia against all odds.

Coyote
Coyote
June 8, 2014 1:42 am

For the record, I do not agree with folks who claim bb is insane. I told my boss, so an so keeps fucking shit up. He replied, that’s because he’s the only one doing anything.

I have read a couple of bb posts that were fantastic. I have seen him skewer a few egos that were begging for it. Crazy? Like a fox. Where the fuck have you been? Does bb have to keep the conversation going all by his lonesome. You fucks had some shit to say back in the days of old Smokey then you went and joined him. Come back to the party and do like bb: feed the kitty. Shit, that meter hasn’t moved since your last bowel movement.

Stop crying over Smokey and do him proud, assholes.

Kill Bill
Kill Bill
June 8, 2014 2:11 am

My boss once said, Brush Wolf, “if your not fucking up your not trying” but then we had a mechanic, names Trusty, or all names, that fucked shit up intentionally.

Trusty mechanic?

And he was ‘Doing Things’ above and beyond his actual job.

And I was sent to fix his ‘doings’ and did it right.

So please, dont give me some broad adage about who fixes shit and who fucks it up.

Kill Bill
Kill Bill
June 8, 2014 2:15 am

Does bb have to keep the conversation going all by his lonesome. You fucks had some shit to say back in the days of old Smokey then you went and joined him -Coyote

Smokey sucked his own 11.5 inch penis, that lonely old rubber dick cum lip.

Coyote
Coyote
June 8, 2014 2:48 am

Are you saying bb intentionally sabotages this site?

Coyote
Coyote
June 8, 2014 3:05 am

Kill Bill says:

“Smokey sucked his own 11.5 inch penis”

ordinarily, i never experience mixed emotions, however, disgust, envy, and a certain sympathy for a lonely old man are happening now.