And the proper reply is…were you there?
My buddy sent this to me and I thought it was a joke but it is in fact true; it’s so ridiculous it almost had me clamoring for Common Core.
It’s bad when the vast majority of school options are from government priso-err… I mean schools and religious schools run by fundy nutjobs. My head hurts, save me Jeebus.
Remains to Be Seen
Claim: Image shows a fourth-grade science quiz about ‘Dinosaurs: Genesis and the Gospel’ from a South Carolina school.
Example: [Collected via e-mail, April 2013]
This seems suspicious – not just because of the content. The reading/sophistication level is not 4th grade, but I’ve been seeing it on Facebook.
Origins: This image purportedly showing a “4th Grade Science Quiz” hit the Internet in April 2013, showing a classroom test entitled “Dinosaurs: Genesis and the Gospel” and consisting of several true/false and short-answer questions about dinosaurs and the Bible, which a student had all answered correctly in accordance with religious Young Earth creationism (rather than scientific) principles.
The title of the quiz is the same as that of a DVD produced by the group Answers in Genesis and hews closely to the material presented therein, including the admonition that “If someone tells you the earth is millions of years old, what should be your reply? ‘Were you there?'” and the reference to the Bible as “The History Book of the Universe.”
The image was of the purported quiz publicized in a post to Reddit’s r/atheism forum, made by a user who maintained that it was a real quiz given at a private religious school in South Carolina, and that he was shown the quiz by the student’s parent and took a picture of it with his iPhone. He declined to identify the school for now, stating that “I am not publicizing it since it is a small school and I don’t want any publicity that might reflect badly on the kid” and “I don’t want the kid to get in trouble, so I am keeping that under my hat until June when school is over,” although he did allow that the school was “North of Greer, SC.”
A few days after the Reddit posting, a reader wrote to us and maintained that the quiz displayed above belonged to his 10-year-old daughter, saying:
I didn’t know that this was being taught to her until we heard a radio commercial together about the
Discover the Dinosaurs exhibit was coming to the TD Convention Center [in Greenville, South Carolina].
The Commercial starts out, “After 65 million years, the dinosaurs have returned …” She commented immediately that it was only four thousand years ago. When I corrected her, she snapped back, “Were you there?” I have since taught my daughter differently, but I am sure she is confused now and plan to make sure she understands that teachers are people too and can be factually wrong.
The test showed up [at] home a day later to my disgust.
It’s a great school for Reading, Writing and Math. She is ahead of most of her peers and also is taking Latin there. But I now know to be vigilant for the rest of the year about her science teachings.
She will not be attending the school next year …
He indicated that he wouldn’t disclose the name of the school until the end of the school year in June, but he did forward us an image of the second page of the quiz:
We noted that there is a school,
Blue Ridge Christian Academy, that meets all of the criteria described above: a private Christian Academy which is both in the Greenville area of South Carolina and north of Greer, which offers “science lessons [that] are creation-based,” and which includes Latin in its fourth-grade curriculum. Blue Ridge didn’t respond to our inquiry, but Ken Ham and Mark Looy of Answers in Genesis (AiG)
confirmed in the AiG blog that the quiz did indeed originate with that school:
In South Carolina recently, a fourth-grade teacher at Blue Ridge Christian Academy (a nondenominational K–12 Christian school) showed students a DVD of a children’s program, in which AiG song-writer and dinosaur sculptor Buddy Davis and I are featured. In this DVD, we teach children the history of the universe from the Bible, with a special emphasis on teaching dinosaurs from a biblical perspective (as we do inside our Creation Museum). The teacher handed out a question sheet to the children to test what they learned from the DVD.
A friend of one of the parents who has a child enrolled in the fourth grade class posted the quiz sheets on the internet. The parent, like all parents who have children enrolled at this academy, had signed a statement, which acknowledged an understanding that sending their child to this Christian school would mean they would be taught biblical Christianity. The parent expressed dismay that his daughter was taught a biblical approach to dinosaurs. The quiz’s posting to the internet resulted in a number of atheist websites reposting the questions and answers, and many of them responded in rage and vehement attacks on the school.
The Blue Ridge Christian Academy has since closed due to a lack of funding.
Original HERE.
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I wonder how many examples of equally stupid publicly funded rhetoric we can find with dissenting views of the bible? It’s hypocritical to take one example and use to that to condemn one ideology, or, what is your point?
My biblical views are consistent with evolution, which is theory, by the way. If God chose to take 6 billion years to form the earth, what is that to you?
To get to the crux of your argument, yes, dinosaurs existed and were made extinct 35 million years ago. They had life, but of a different form than we know it, that which was created in Genesis.
Now that I’ve addressed your issue, answer mine, Evolution has never been proven because there is not one example of cross genus evolution, the proverbial missing link. Why is that? Take your time, I’ve got all eternity to wait for your reply.
@Nonanon – “which is theory, by the way.”
The scientific world needs to capitulate on the word “hypothesis” and just start using theory in its place, its one of the most common sources of dissonance between lay people and science.
nonthinker,
the point was
-look at this
-it’s stupid
-laugh
-move onto something less stupid
you are immune to logic so i am not getting into an evolution argument with a bb clone, don’t care
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As I am a somewhat aware citizen of the United States, under siege from multiple directions and trying to wrap my mind around how I will cope with my miserable future, I just don’t have the luxury of worrying about the teaching of evolution right now.
Appalling to say the least, but really, par for the course in our new screwed up world where one book equates to history OR one study equates to scientific “fact.”
To a logical mind, it makes one want to scream in frustration and terror for the masses unlucky enough to have no desire, or ability, to learn on their own.
People, Americans to the Nth degree, seem to like to have most “hard” thoughts packaged up and delivered to them via 30 second newsbites and vibrant, compelling, slick haired religious zealots.
Just let somebody else do all that hard thinking.
But, compared to what is bearing down upon us, this is the ultimate in spoonfed bullshit. Enough to get masses riled on both sides of the debate, while the elite and political class continue to loot and condemn us to a life where giving a flying fuck about what bs/propaganda they are teaching the childrens in any school.
Besides, these kids parents voluntarily have chosen to PAY for this. If they want their little darlings confined to the service industry, instead of the STEM industries, than so be it.
According to my gramps, whom would have been as shocked and sadly amused as I, the world will always need ditch diggers. And fry pushers.
Amen.
Q: “The next time someone says the Earth is billions of years old, what can you say?” A: Were you there?” ———- article
Of course, that works BOTH ways!!
Q: “The next time someone says God created the Earth, what can you say?”
A: “Were you there?”
Both answers prove only one thing; extremely illogical thinking and.or ignorance.
Nonanonymous says:
, Evolution has never been proven because there is not one example of cross genus evolution, the proverbial missing link. Why is that? Take your time, I’ve got all eternity to wait for your reply.
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Maybe, maybe not…
http://saportareport.com/blog/2013/07/mccarthy_human_pig_chimp_evolution/
Don’t forget ManBearPig – 1/2 man, 1/2 bear and 1/2 pig. It’s in the Bible.
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Ken Ham, the man now running the Institute for Creation Research (ICR) which produces Answers In Genesis, spent a weekend in our home, many years ago. My ex and I were deeply immersed in this belief system, we had ALL their books and vids, and sadly, taught this to our children.
How was this possible? Because at the time I had not yet developed Stucky Rule 2A — read and study OPPOSING viewpoints. The ICR actually actively and aggressively discourages its True Believers from examining opposing viewpoints, as they are “of the Devil”. They DO examine opposing viewpoints in their books and viewpoints. However, this is ONLY done to ridicule and mock it. And when a person is exposed to only one viewpoint over and over again while simultaneously preventing any other opposing voices, or ridiculing them, there is a name for that ….. brainwashing.
Brainwashing is one of THE most powerful forces I’ve EVER encountered because its very goal is to STOP thinking. It too me YEARS to overcome. Thank God for that. Oh …. wait …..
“Don’t forget ManBearPig – 1/2 man, 1/2 bear and 1/2 pig. It’s in the Bible. ” — Iska Waran
Pigman also made an appearance in Seinfeld;
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The answer to religious fanaticism, in terms of keeping it’s ugly mitts off politics is to create a state religion that is benign and that very few actually follow.
I really don’t give a fuck about christian fundy nutballs or the islamic versions, as long as they are kept as far removed from any position of authority as possible.
” Evolution has never been proven because there is not one example of cross genus evolution”
Somehow I missed this. Are you suggesting that two different animals will evolve so that they can breed across their respective genuses?
If you are referring to common ancestors between two diverging animals, then you will need to accept that you are looking for an ancestory, and not a living breathing animal.
People are always so pissy that they can’t have their cake and eat it too.
“If humans came from apes, then why are there still apes walking around?”
I cannot explain natural selection and evolution because I do not have the time. Its impossible to distill this stuff down into a soundbite, which in a debate or internet forum is all you have time for.
Want to learn about evolution? Go take a class in it, I get sick of starting literally from scratch every time this shit comes up.
Its like starting with 1+1 = 2 when your end goal is an understanding of quantum mechanics. Sure, there is a linear path between the two, but fuck if it isn’t a long one.
Iska, “Don’t forget ManBearPig – 1/2 man, 1/2 bear and 1/2 pig. It’s in the Bible.”
reference?
Z, you left out Z’ism. Besides, this country was founded on xtian principles, get over it. Let’s see StuckFuck try to squirm his way out of that one.
harry, you don’t get a pass on being a hypocritical douche bag. Now move along.
”Evolution has never been proven because there is not one example of cross genus evolution” ——Nonanonymous
“Somehow I missed this. Are you suggesting that …” — TPC responding
TPC
There are BILLIONS of pages on the internet regarding evolution. BILLIONS!! In other words, it’s not a secret.
Soooo, when someone comes along and says — ”Evolution has never been proven” — I do believe the proper response is;
—- 1) Shake your head
—- 2) Pray for them …. (Ha!)
—- 3) Realize you are dealing with a Lost Cause
—- 4) Shake the dust from your feet, and move along
But, that’s me. You’re better than I. Best wishes …. and don’t bang your head against the wall when you get nowhere
Calling me Stuckfuck …. (kinda cute, actually)
Calling harry p “hypocritical douche bag”
Yeah, THAT”S a great way to advance your views. May I suggest a book?
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Nonanonymous says:
Z, you left out Z’ism. Besides, this country was founded on xtian principles, get over it. Let’s see StuckFuck try to squirm his way out of that one.
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1) There is no such thing as a fundy zoroastrian nutball and never has been. The reason is that there is simply nothing in it to get irrational and weird over. You can’t brainwash anyone with free choice.
2) Xtian principles are derived from zoroastrian ones. So there.
” … this country was founded on xtian principles, get over it. Let’s see StuckFuck try to squirm his way out of that one” ——- Nonbrain
FYI, Stuckfuck agrees that this country was built on “xtian” principles.
Next.
Harry p,….time +random chance +unlimited mutations +more time +more chance and mutations =You.Ok ,I am a believer.
1.Never been observed in a laboratory
2.Never been repeated in experiments in laboratory.
3.Never been observed in the fossil record
4 No missing so-called links every found anywhere.
5.No solid scientific proof at all.None .Not any anywhere.
Pure bullshit fairy tale for adults like you HARRY.I’M LAUGHING AT YOU HARRY and boy that chaps your ass.
bb believes that SPEAKING caused the universe, despite …
1. Creationism …. Never been observed in a laboratory
2. Creationism …. Never been repeated in experiments in laboratory.
3. Creationism …. Never been observed in the fossil record
4. Creationism …. No solid scientific proof at all. None. Not anywhere.
Pure bullshit fairy tale for adults like you BB .I’M LAUGHING AT YOU BB and boy that chaps your ass.
bb,
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TPC ,you can’t explain natural selection or evolution.Congratulations , no one else can either.Don’t you worry Tpc GOD is in the process of humbling us and when this house of cards comes tumbling down there’s going to be alot pissed off angry people who will have nothing to lose.Millions will be looking for blood. That’s going to be enough to put the fear of GOD in most people including you..
Your going to see first hand what society is like without GOD.In fact,without GOD you can’t give me a reason why you should be allowed to live.Why would any man let you live if your just another animal produced by random chance.????????
I am not laughing at you but god and jesus think you are so stupid they are chuckling
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What bb says …
“Your going to see first hand what society is like without GOD.In fact,without GOD you can’t give me a reason why you should be allowed to live.Why would any man let you live if your just another animal produced by random chance.????????”
What I see …
“bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit. !!!!!!!!!”
bb says:
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Your going to see first hand what society is like without GOD.In fact,without GOD you can’t give me a reason why you should be allowed to live.Why would any man let you live if your just another animal produced by random chance.????????
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Okay, I am convinced. Clearly the only reasonable option is to become a brain-dead bible thumper and be saved.
Stucky , you just proved to everyone you are an apostate. The more you speak the more you condemn yourself.In your case Repentance, impossible to renew.Heb 6:6..if they fall away , to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the SON OF GOD ,and put him to an open shame.
“1.Never been observed in a laboratory
2.Never been repeated in experiments in laboratory.
3.Never been observed in the fossil record
4 No missing so-called links every found anywhere.
5.No solid scientific proof at all.None .Not any anywhere.”
1. Here’s the classic experiment (1948) that universities teach in support of natural selection. From personal experience, I use it at work all the time. We have separate strains of the same microorganism for production of different enzymes. 50 years ago, we started with just the WT (wild type) of the microogranism, and since then have selected for 5 different marketable strains.
2. See the above.
3. Canines, apes and humans have all been around for a relatively short time. Lets do horsies, because I think it will hold your attention longer.
4. You aren’t bridging between two existing species, you are looking at their progenitors. Evolution doesn’t claim that somewhere out there exists a cat/dog hybrid. Evolution claims that millions of years ago they shared a common ancestor.
5. Yawn.
Bored and on my lunch break Stuck, or else I wouldn’t have bothered. bb is an unlettered idiot and Nonanon is hardly better.
Mr Z ,what do you know , you’re a Jew who wants to be an Iranian.You can’t blame that on GOD.Maybe evolution is true in your case.
TPC ,the problem with evolutionists is you have Pride the size of the Himalayan Mountains and for what?Your just a small, weak ,fragile little man.You know nothing but you have convinced yourself you are so smart because you got a piece of paper. Paper that will soon be like the dollar bill and the treasury notes. Worthless.All your delusions will come down on your own head.
“Stucky …. The more you speak the more you condemn yourself.” ——– Village Idiot
Weak! Keep trying. But, be forewarned, the LAST fuckin’ thing you want is for me to dedicate another post in response to your foolishness.
Stucky,
There isnt enough room on the internet to document why/how bb is a grade-A dipshit.
Someone once said that the eye with which you see God is the same eye with which he sees you.
Equine corpse abuse.
Gayle says:
Someone once said that the eye with which you see God is the same eye with which he sees you.
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Gayle, I believe that is a corruption of something Nietzsche said, “If you stare into the abyss long enough, it will stare back at you.”
Z-
Actually the guy who said it (Meister Eckhart, Medieval German theologian) predates Nietzsche by quite a few years.
Below quotes are all from Eckhart. He is an evil man, because a dick-sucking pedophile old-creep fucker, the Pope, wanted to kill him for saying such nasty shit.
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If the only prayer you ever say in your entire life is thank you, it will be enough.
What we plant in the soil of contemplation, we shall reap in the harvest of action.
When you are thwarted, it is your own attitude that is out of order.
The outward work will never be puny if the inward work is great.
God is at home, it’s we who have gone out for a walk.
All God wants of man is a peaceful heart.
The more we have the less we own.
Go for it Stucky,I enjoy your posts. If You backout I’m going to call a weak little girly boy .Besides admin needs a break.He’s getting old like us.
Stucky
If you review the Parable of the Talents (Matt. 25:14-30), you find that Jesus clearly confirms the quote I posted.
Okay. My turn. From the Yasnas:
For a thinking man is where wisdom is at home.
Harken with your ears to these best counsels, reflect upon them with illumined judgement. Let each one choose his creed with that freedom of choice each must have at great events.
Be good, be kind, be humand and charitable. Love your fellows, console the afflicted, pardon those who have done you wrong. (I think Jeebus plagarized this one).
Taking the first footstep with a good thought, the second with a good word, and the third with a good deed, by thus did I enter paradise.
Doing good to others is not a duty. It is a joy for it increases our own heath and happiness.
Stuck, theory is not a law. By your logic, you’ve only proven if you tell a lie often enough, people will start to believe it. I’m not saying evolution is a lie, but that’s the only support you’ve given, without ignoring no one has answered me, where is the missing link? Go ahead, make a joke of it. You’re the one mocking the truth, not me.
Z, you’re a fundy Z’irm nutjob, get over yourself.
Harry, keep on walking.
Z, “Okay. My turn. From the Yasnas:”
WTF? Seriously? It isn’t enough we have the old and new testament, and the koran, now you want to bring your fuck buddy into it.
You’re a faggot, aren’t you?
Gods above! Holy mackerel! Jesus loves you!
We’d be so much better off without religion.
Amen.
MA
“where is the missing link?” ——– Non
Look in the mirror.
Gayle
huh? What did I say?
Nonanon
pearls before swine…
“Stuck, theory is not a law.” ————– Non
Holycrap!! You’re really going to pull out that card … evolution is a theory?
Is gravity a theory or law?
You don’t have a friggin inkling of a clue in understanding how science defines, and uses, the words “law” and “theory.”. And I’m not going to explain it to you.
See ya. Gotta go watch Brazil. Their government might declare war against Croatia by the end of the game.
Stuck
You didn’t necessarily say anything, you did further research is all. I had to think long and hard about the quote I posted before I could agree with it. The parable helped. Just submitting a point of interest (or non interest) about your buddy Jeebus. Cheers.
But ,but ,but gayle,want is your point? Having a hot flash?
Apparently I have no point. Just jibbering.
Carry on.