Authored by Lee Hieb, M.D., originally published at World Net Daily, via Alt-Market blog,
Gov. Chris Christie has been vilified for making a very simple statement – that parents (and presumably patients themselves) should have the freedom to choose whether to vaccinate their children. I have been asked for years what I thought about vaccination, so let me lay out the issues.
Before getting into the science, lets discuss the philosophy:
1. The voices shrieking to forcibly vaccinate people are the same voices shrieking to support a woman’s right to choose abortion under Roe v. Wade. If a woman’s body is sacrosanct, if she has the right to choose to deliver a child or not, if she has total authority over her body, how can she not have the right to accept or refuse a vaccination?
2. Medical ethics are clear: No one should be forced to undergo a medical treatment without informed consent and without their agreement to the treatment. We condemn the forced sterilization of the ’20s and ’30s, the Tuskegee medical experiments infecting black inmates and the Nazi medicine that included involuntary “Euthanasia,” experimentation and sterilization. How can we force vaccination without consent? Vaccination is a medical treatment with risks including death. It is totally antithetical to all ethics in medicine to mandate that risk to others.
3. Science is never “concluded.” Mr. Obama and other ideologues may think the truth is finalized (“The science is indisputable”), but the reality is our understanding of disease and treatment are constantly being updated. Just like Newton’s mechanical paradigm of the universe was supplanted by Einsteinian physics, and physicists today modify that view, medical “truth” is not the truth for long. In an attempt to quantify change in medicine, years ago a cardiology journal discussed “The Half-life of Truth.” cardiologists looked back in their journal at 20-year-old articles to see how much of what was believed then was still believed to be true. The answer? 50 percent. So in cardiology, at least – and in all of medicine to greater or lesser degree – only half of what we believe now will still be true in 20 or so years. The last word on vaccination is not in. It hasn’t even begun to be written.
4. If you believe absolutely in the benefit and protective value of vaccination, why does it matter what others do? Or don’t do? If you believe you need vaccination to be healthy and protected, then by all means vaccinate your child and yourself. Why should you even be concerned what your neighbor chooses to do for his child – if vaccination works? The idea of herd immunity is still based on the idea that in individual cases vaccines actually are protective.
5. If you think the government has the right to forcibly vaccinate people – for the good of society – what is to prevent them from forcibly sterilizing people, or forcibly euthanizing people, or forcibly implanting a tracking device – for the good of society? You make think those examples are extreme (although two-thirds have happened), but the principle is the same. You are allowing government to have ultimate authority over your body.
So, I’ve been asked, “Why not vaccinate your children? Why not take the influenza vaccine?” Well, I believe the choice is up to you. I’ve covered my thinking about the influenza vaccine in an article in the Journal of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, available online, but here are some facts about childhood vaccines that make me think twice about their use. I traced these points back to the source, so these are not blindly reprinted from hearsay Internet articles. In some cases I found public references to be wrong but the data to be correct when I got to the source. Much of this comes from government reporting. Anyone can research disease incidence by reading MMWR (Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report) from the CDC and accessing the search engine for VAERS (Vaccine complication reporting site) at http://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/index.php.
1. Since 2005 (and even before that), there have been no deaths in the U.S. from measles, but there have been 86 deaths from MMR vaccine – 68 of them in children under 3 years old. And there were nearly 2,000 disabled.
2. In countries which use BCG vaccinations against tuberculosis, the incidence of Type I diabetes in children under 14 is nearly double. (“Infectious Disease in Clinical Practice” no. 6 pages 449-454, 1997)
3. As reported in Lancet in 1995, inflammatory bowel disease (i.e. Crohn’s and ulcerative colitis) is 13 times more prevalent in persons vaccinated for measles.
4. In a nested case-control study within the General Practice Research Database (GPRD) in the United Kingdom, patients who had a first MS (Multiple Sclerosis) diagnosis recorded were compared with controls. The authors concluded that immunization with the recombinant hepatitis B vaccine is associated with a threefold increased risk of developing MS (Hernan et al., 2004). No increased risk of MS was associated with other vaccines, which included tetanus and influenza vaccinations.
5. In 1982 William Torch, a prolific researcher and publisher on Neurologic topics, presented a paper (later published) at the American Academy of Neurology reviewing SIDS deaths. He reported that in 100 consecutive cases, 70 percent of SIDS deaths occurred within three weeks of pertussis vaccination. In very convincing confirmation, a Japanese prefecture stopped vaccinating after associating SIDS with the pertussis vaccine. It is worth reading the entire description from Viera Scheibner, PhD:
In 1975, about 37 Crib Sudden Deaths were linked to vaccination in Japan. Doctors in one prefecture boycotted vaccinations, and refused to vaccinate. The Japanese government paid attention and stopped vaccinating children below the age of 2 years. When immunization was delayed until a child was 24 months of age, Sudden Infant Death cases and claims for vaccine related deaths disappeared. Japan zoomed from a high 17th place in infant mortality rate to the lowest infant mortality rate in the world when they stopped vaccinating. Japan didn’t vaccinate any children below the age of 2 years between 1975 and 1988, for 13 years. But then in 1988, Japanese parents were given the choice to start vaccinating anywhere between 3 months and 48 months. The Ministry study group studied 2,720 SIDS cases occurring between 1980 and 1992 and they established that their very low SIDS rate quadrupled.
6. A mail survey was done of 635 children in the Netherlands in 2004. German measles and whooping cough (pertussis) were twice as common in unvaccinated children. However, throat inflammations, ear infections, rheumatologic complaints, seizures and febrile convulsions were much more common in the vaccinated group. Aggressive behavioral episodes were eight times more frequent in vaccinated children, and sleep disordered more often. Tonsils were removed in 33 percent of children who had been vaccinated vs. 7.3 percent unvaccinated.
7. In 1947, the first reports of brain inflammation and chronic brain damage, including death, after pertussis vaccination began to be published (Brody, 1947; Byers and Moll, 1948, Low, 1955, Berg, 1958; Strom, 1960, 1967; Dick, 1967, 1974; Kuhlenkampff, 1974; Stewart, 1977, 1979). But it took more than 40 years of collective evidence before academic medicine decided it was true –1981 National Childhood Encephalopathy Study (NCES) and in 1991 and 1994 by the Institute of Medicine, National Academy of Sciences.
In 1991, after reviewing vaccine safety, the Institute of Medicine admitted, “In the course of its review, the committee encountered many gaps and limitations in knowledge bearing directly or indirectly on the safety of vaccines. These include inadequate understanding of the biologic mechanisms underlying adverse events following natural infection or immunization, insufficient or inconsistent information from case reports and case series, inadequate size or length of followup of many population based epidemiologic studies [and] few experimental studies published in relation to the number of epidemiologic studies published.”
So the next question is: Does vaccination work? Does it really protect you against disease? The answer is variable. Smallpox vaccine seems to be nearly universally protective against the very fatal disease of smallpox, and use of vaccine led to the eradication of the disease in the wild. But the dirty little secret in recent outbreaks of mumps, measles and pertussis is – they are occurring in vaccinated people in highly vaccinated populations!
In 2006 an epidemic of mumps broke out in my state of Iowa. Ultimately, 11 states reported 2,597 cases of mumps. The majority of mumps cases (1,487) were reported from Iowa. As reported in “Mumps Epidemic – Iowa, 2006,” “Despite control efforts and a highly vaccinated population, this epidemic has spread across Iowa and potentially to neighboring states.” According to the CDC, “During the prevaccine era, nearly everyone in the United States experienced mumps, and 90 percent of cases occurred among children, although 97 percent of children entering school in Iowa had received two doses of MMR vaccine. ” Of note, this outbreak mostly occurred in young adults of college age who had received the vaccine. Only 6 percent of those affected were known to be unvaccinated, 12 percent received one dose of MMR vaccine, 51 percent had two doses of MMR vaccine, and 31 percent (mostly adults) were not sure of their immunization history.
In 2008-2009, Australia had epidemics of whooping cough and measles. Health authorities there must reveal the vaccination status of children in epidemics. Eighty-four percent of Australian children who got whooping cough were fully vaccinated, and 78 percent who got measles had record of measles vaccination.
In the 2010 outbreak of whooping cough in California, well over half the victims were fully vaccinated.
Whooping cough continuously declined in the U.S. from over 100,000 cases in 1922 to around 1978 when 2,063 cases were reported. That year, pertussis vaccine became mandated for school attendance. Beginning around 1995, when the U.S. had 5,137 cases, the incidence has increased, to 2012 when over 48,000 cases were reported, including 20 deaths. The majority of deaths were in newborns under three months of age. Why is this happening? It is not because people are not becoming vaccinated. The CDC says more than 84 percent of children under 3 years old have been vaccinated with four doses of pertussis vaccine. But the current vaccine does not include all strains of pertussis. And the most vulnerable to the disease – the small infants – are not able to take the vaccine. Since older children and adults are much less likely to die of whooping cough, the question that must be asked is this: Is vaccination effective in producing antibody transfer from mother to infant? Or is it better to allow the natural disease to occur?
Finally, it turns out that death and disability from many childhood diseases is preventable by means other than vaccination. Vitamin A has been known since the 1930s to reduce mortality from measles by 60 percent. Vitamin D is protective against viral illness. And numerous authors and studies have shown the damaging effects of chemical antipyretics (fever lowering drugs) on the natural course of disease – a practice still sadly in widespread use in America. Better understanding of disease mechanisms, utilizing nutritional support and better scientific care of the sick child are safer alternatives to widespread vaccination.
Perhaps one of the best perspectives on the whole vaccination paradigm is provided by Dr. Harold Buttram, M.D., FAACP:
As one of today’s senior citizens who grew up in a Midwestern state in the 1930s, and as a doctor who has treated many children, I may have a special vantage point of time and experience in regard to the changes that have taken place in the health of America’s children since the relatively innocent times of the 1930s. At summer camps in the New Mexico Mountains that I was fortunate to attend, no boy had allergies, none was on medication, and no boy was ever sick with the common ailments of today. It was much the same in schools. I don’t recall ever seeing a child with easily recognized behaviors now described as hyperactivity (ADHD) or autism.
Today in stark contrast, approximately one-third of our youngsters are afflicted with the 4-A Disorders (Autism, ADHD, Asthma, and Allergies), as described and documented by Dr. Kenneth Bock. School budgets are being strained to the breaking points in providing special education classes for autistic and learning disabled children. Allergy problems are proliferating, as indicated by long lines of children at school nursing stations for their noontime medications.
Could today’s infant and childhood vaccine programs, with their steadily increasing numbers of vaccines, be a contributory cause of this ominous health trend? As reflected in the U.S. Congressional Hearings (1999 to December 2004) on issues of vaccine safety, in which major deficiencies in vaccine safety testing were disclosed, it is a real possibility that vaccines may be one of the major, if not the major cause of this trend.
I, too, am old enough to remember these times. We are changing the pattern of disease, but not necessarily making our children nor ourselves healthier. We are converting benign childhood disease into more severe adult disease. Consider the chickenpox vaccine. We used to have chickenpox parties where small children were purposely exposed to kids sick with chickenpox. In those days, every mother or grandmother knew it was safer for toddlers to get the disease early and not wait until teenage years. Now we vaccinate, but of course that vaccine is only effective for 15-20 years, so now adults must constantly be revaccinated or run the risk of getting a life-threatening severe form of chickenpox. The shingles uptick is directly attributable to the lack of re-exposure of older people to the wild chickpox virus. But not to worry – the drug companies can sell us a shingles vaccine for a disease their previous vaccine created.
We have forgotten that for most normal children, childhood diseases are benign. As recounted about mumps in the Iowa Department of Public Health Manual, “it is more common in infants, children and young adults. Of people who are not immunized, >85 percent will have mumps by adulthood, but symptoms may have been mild and therefore not recognized.”
At the end of the day, the issue here is one of freedom, and freedom is the freedom to choose – even if we make a bad choice. The argument that I must vaccinate my children for the good of the community is not only scientifically questionable, it is an unethical precept. It is the argument all dictators and totalitarians have used. “Comrade, you must work tirelessly for the good of the collective. You must give up your money and property for the good of the collective, and now … you must allow us to inject your children with what we deem is good for the collective.” If American’s don’t stand up against this, then we are lost. Because we have lost ownership of ourselves. Our bodies are no longer solely ours – we and our children are able to be commandeered for the “greater good.”
The problem with science is it’s been corrupted by money i.e. government grants , and even the most lethargic thinker should by now come to the conclusion that most every piece of data produced by the US government is a based on fraud and misinformation , which is top say propaganda designed to effect some socio-engineered outcome or to promote the standard statist quo bullshit.
Vaccines are another vehicle of government control. They have little efficacy and tremendous potential downsides. Often they contain genetically engineered components that will alter the genetic code of the unfortunate victim. The medical industrial complex is creating patients for life (if they live) that they can reap billions from for decades. And the unquestioning mindless automatons parade their children in to the butchers offices as if they are doing their “duty” by injecting deadly toxins that will wreak untold bodily havoc for years to come.
“If you believe absolutely in the benefit and protective value of vaccination, why does it matter what others do? Or don’t do? If you believe you need vaccination to be healthy and protected, then by all means vaccinate your child and yourself. Why should you even be concerned what your neighbor chooses to do for his child – if vaccination works?” Why? Because most people who suspect that they’re being hoodwinked want company to sooth the pain of their stupidity. Most know that the vaccines don’t work. Empirical evidence proves it.
We’ll take our chances on natural selection and building a truly healthy immune system.
Be safe, friends.
Early in my career as a Earthbound human, I figured out that we are to “volunteer” ourselves into all manner of things. Sometime we are gently nudged while other times we are fear mongered and beaten into volunteering.
You can “just say no” to vaccines. Don’t volunteer for (soft kill) booby traps .
I posted this elsewhere and putting it here as well….
The vaccine scam is by far the most successful bit of propaganda ever foisted on the USA. Even the most liberty minded fall for it, and line up like cattle, to be injected by TPTB. And as if it is not bad enough that they fall for it, they insist, to the point of empowering the State that me and mine must do it as well. Unbelievable.
Lest the myth that neonates don’t need vaccination because they have their mom’s immunity for several months, the story just came out that a couple of newborns have died due to measles.
Any asshole that tries to force a needle into me will receive a .45ACP between the eyes. Got it? Good, now go fuck yourself.
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Bea Lever–” “just say no” to vaccines” you say. Just about that time the CPS (Child Protective Services), you know the kids gestapo, shows up to grab your kid and goes to court and gets some brain dead judge waiting for a appellate appointment to ok a state (judicial) directive to inoculate your young sweetie giving her or him a possible death sentence or at best a life long bout of recurring illnesses. All the while you’re silently screaming in your head to God for retribution.
Of course, it could all go well, except the trauma of your interaction with your helpful gov, forever lingering in your previously tranquil mind. If it does go bad, you can rest assured that those involved will congratulate themselves that justice was served and move on to administering justice to the next reprobate parents.
You can’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs. God help us all from those who would do us good!
Knock wood, but I have not gotten the flu since I stopped taking the vaccine 15 years ago.
There may well be too many vaccines given. But there are some that need to be given, in my opinion. Some of that stuff you do not want to get, or to have around.
Measles is one. Mumps is one. Whooping cough is one. Those things are not especially deadly to kids, but they are devastating to certain groups – pregnant women, grown men, young babies. Re mumps – if you are a grown man you definitely do not want that shit. New a guy who came down with mumps, and it was not pretty. I think he went sterile, and it laid him in hospital for a long time.
Vaccines vary in what percent of those receiving are protected. But that is not the point. If an entire herd is vaccinated but only 80% are actually protected, fact is the entire herd is pretty much protected. Because the disease has great difficulty spreading in that situation.
I have spoken to a lot of doctors about this, and every one has said that anti-vacciners are crazy nutjobs. The late great AWD said the same.
I would not force vaccines on folks. But I would deprive them of access to any publicly funded activity (ie schools) or public funds, without it. I would allow employers to discriminate on the basis someone is not vaccinated. I would do my best to encourage vaccinations.
I just read an article that debunks the shit the guy said in the article. It claims the antivacs have no proof whatsoever, and use instead timing – the kid was vaccinated last week, got sick this week, so it was the vaccine that caused it.
Believe what you want, do what you want. But access to education and jobs etc. is not a right. And putting another at risk owing to your actions is certainly not a right. That is what quarantine laws are all about.
And to use a similarity to what taxslave said – any unvaxed person, or their parent, passing a deadly disease to a member of my family is eligible for the .45 treatment.
This just makes me sad.
At least when those that are spreading the fear-mongering and lies about “safety” are finally declared ill with anti-authoritarian disease (and it IS a disease, Stuck wrote an article/commented on this via his Ms. Freud), will still be rounded up and protected to death.
Llpoh, you are smarter than that. You know better than most that the government lies for profit and power in other areas, but you wish to believe this corruption hasn’t entered the health field.
Even as you look around and SEE the truth all around you.
If all these shots and diet advice were the right things to do, then WHY are the numbers of brain damaged and sick-as-dogs and obese continue to increase?
What in the believers opinions are the causes of our EXPLOSION of cancer, autism and deadly allergies?
Just lucky I guess.
@T4C, now combine with the Ebola fear-mongering and yeah, it looks like we are being herded down a primrose path.
That path will lead to death and horror.
But hey, its for the safety of the herd.
Well, at least the very rich, very connected to government herd.
As for the rest of us, be SHOCKED when you start seeing loved ones die of “unknown” illnesses.
I won’t be. Sadly, seeing it coming won’t make the loss any more bearable. Thank god I believe the next world will be better.
loopy-Measles is one.
you’re out of your league Tonto.
http://voxday.blogspot.com/search/label/vaccines
More measles facts
The US goverment reports more killed by measles vaccinations than by measles in the USA:
While those opposing mandatory vaccination for measles are widely portrayed as ignorant and even dangerous by some officials, pundits and even news media accounts, Centers for Disease Control records reveal a startling truth – while no one has died of measles in the U.S. in the last 12 years, 108 have died as a result of the adverse effects of the vaccine in that same time period.
The death statistics are recorded by Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, or VAERS, which captures only a small percentage of the actual number of deaths and other adverse reactions to the vaccine. In addition, 96 of the 108 deaths in that 12-year time period were a result of the MMR vaccine, now the preferred shot for measles immunization.
flash – you are truly stupid.
VAERS logs reports from the public. It does not verify the fucking reports. From the VAERS website:
“VAERS is a passive reporting system, meaning that reports about adverse events are not automatically collected, but require a report to be filed to VAERS. VAERS reports can be submitted voluntarily by anyone, including healthcare providers, patients, or family members. Reports vary in quality and completeness. They often lack details and sometimes can have information that contains errors.”
So, anti-vax nutjobs, plain old nutjobs, anti-vax crusaders, et all can report to their little hearts content, and VAERS dutifully collect those reports and publishes them.
What a stinking pile of shit.
You are a moron. Your “the govt reports” is a lie, and you either know it, or should have checked it out. Using VAERS as a source for “govt reports” is unbelievable, even for you.