Sorry for yet another Baltimore/Freddie story. But, this is too much! I wouldn’t blame da Neegrows if they burned down Baltimore … they should start with the copfuk headquarters.
Soooooooo ….. Freddie BROKE HIS OWN BACK!!
First, you must watch the video. Go to the 1:43 mark.
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“It never fails. As soon as one of these excessive force stories breaks, there’s always a cop ready to leak something suggesting that the victim did it to themselves, just like Victor White. In that case, the coroner and police department said he managed to shoot himself with a magic gun while his hands were cuffed behind his back.
Tonight the police leaked a document suggesting that Freddie Gray tossed himself against the walls of a police van in order to sever his own spine.
A prisoner sharing a police transport van with Freddie Gray told investigators that he could hear Gray “banging against the walls” of the vehicle and believed that he “was intentionally trying to injure himself,” according to a police document obtained by The Washington Post.
The prisoner, who is currently in jail, was separated from Gray by a metal partition and could not see him. His statement is contained in an application for a search warrant, which is sealed by the court. The Post was given the document under the condition that the prisoner not be named because the person who provided it feared for the inmate’s safety.
The document, written by a Baltimore police investigator, offers the first glimpse of what might have happened inside the van. It is not clear whether any additional evidence backs up the prisoner’s version, which is just one piece of a much larger probe.
http://crooksandliars.com/2015/04/police-maybe-freddie-gray-severed-his-own
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Things we don’t know …
- The identity of the prisoner, which was intentionally left out of the police document as a condition for its release.
- The identity of the officer who took the statement from the prisoner.
- Whether there is any additional evidence that would corroborate this account.
- Why Gray would have intentionally tried to injury himself after being arrested for a minor crime.
- The name of the officer who leaked the report, and why he chose to do so
Look at the video … then consider this comment someone made;
“I can speak with some authority on spinal cord injuries. I’m 67 and fractured my neck in a diving accident in 1965. I was 17 at the time and I’ve been a quadriplegic and wheelchair user ever since. Watching the video above and looking at the screen capture, you can see Freddie lost bladder control and wet himself. When he’s being dragged to the van, he’s as limp as a wet dishrag. He’s not faking or just going limp to resist. He’s paralyzed from the neck down. This how it looks; I know. I’ve lived it. This man died a horrific death. He must have been in severe pain and shock the entire time. Any idiot who claims he did it to himself is lying or ignorant beyond belief.”
Goddamn cocksucking motherfucking self-serving lying copfuk pieces of shit!!!! Burn the motherfucker down!!
T4c
I can’t see the crutchfield tongs and bolts screwed into his skull but they are there. Likewise I was looking for an EVD bolt or the collection system I see neither one so likely brain swelling was not an isuue, no head injury. Spinal cord injury significant enough it shut down a vital system. I’m betting after they through him in the van his spinal cord injury shut down his respiratory system, paralyzed his diaphragm, dude went hypoxic and suffered an anoxic brain injury, hence the EEG looking for Brain activity. Guy was brain dead, Doctors spoke with family, family decided to withdrawal care, vent turned of Freddy Grey coded and took the celestial trip.
That’s my take.
T4c The crushed larynx story was some dumbass cop trying to explain why the guy quit breathing wait-and-see.
Sensetti says:
T4c
I can’t see the crutchfield tongs and bolts screwed into his skull but they are there. Likewise I was looking for an EVD bolt or the collection system I see neither one so likely brain swelling was not an isuue, no head injury. Spinal cord injury significant enough it shut down a vital system. I’m betting after they through him in the van his spinal cord injury shut down his respiratory system, paralyzed his diaphragm, dude went hypoxic and suffered an anoxic brain injury, hence the EEG looking for Brain activity. Guy was brain dead, Doctors spoke with family, family decided to withdrawal care, vent turned of Freddy Grey coded and took the celestial trip.
That’s my take.
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I agree that this is most likely. I stand by my original theory that when Gray was down and being handcuffed, a copfuk put his knee on his neck and applied enough pressure to displace three vertebrae. His larnyx wasn’t damaged because he was filled screaming in pain. If it happened, then it was an additional injury that occurred in the paddy wagon.
The pig explanation that the guy broke his own neck by thrashing around in the van is so transparently ridiculous that I’m surprised more riots haven’t broken out. Fuck, if I were there I would want to lob a few bricks at those assholes.
Z, I don’t know about the knee in the back could be, couldn’t be. In reality it could have happen a hundred different ways. As I stated in my first post taking a grown man to the ground that doesn’t want to go to the ground is always, every time, a violent encounter and anything can happen. Can anyone think of a non violent way to get that job done. Let’s say cops come up with a new policy we are going to taze anyone who’s non compliant. You would end up with deaths from that procedure, guy gets tazed falls hits his head, subarachnoid hemorrhage, dude dies. One more time, there is no safe way to subdue another man that doesn’t want to be subdued, and deaths will occur from these encounters, period.
In the video you are actually watching them kill the man, but to the layman’s eye it’s not apparent. The crime was not in the take down, not at all. The crime is the dumb bastards moving him after he was hurt. Do you not realize these cops show up at traffic accidents and are schooled not to move a trauma victim, call for an ambulance and wait for help to arrive, then carefully roll them on to a spin board immobilizing the neck and spinal column. The city will pay millions to the family but not for the take down, not for the spinal damage, that can be explained as the cost of resisting arrest. But once you have that man on the ground and cuffed the cops own the situation from that moment on. Dragging an obvious trauma victim the way they did was negligent. As stated above my money is he died from an anoxic brain injury due to lack of oxygen from a paralyzed diaphragm.
“Diaphragm Paralysis is the loss of control of one or both hemidiaphragms caused by a traumatic injury or disease process which decreases or terminates the impulse of respiratory stimuli originating in the brain”
Just sayin
WhereTF is bb? 95% of the reason I come here is to see what he says, the other 50% is for the articles.
I think he mighta got banned.
If so, happy dance time.
Bilahs wife is who needs to be banned. Only shows up to police the thread. Total fucking bullshit.
No Banning!
TBP is a free for all and always should be.
“But we also need to ask, how was Gray still breathing air? He was a career criminal. Society – not cops – should have eliminated him from the gene pool long ago. His rap sheet was longer than my dick.
We can argue that his crimes were drug crimes, and drug crimes maybe should be abolished. But at the moment, that is the law of the land, and society needs to eradicate folks that commit crimes not once, not twice, but literally dozens of times. I do not care if those crimes are breaking and entering or shoplifting – society should not allow career criminals to exist. Gray was a career criminal.
Society, not cops, should have put an end to him.” – llpoh
So society is to blame and the way to fix this society is to institute one that will execute and and all of its “scumbags.” Yeah that will really make a wonderful society.
You may want to read up on the French Revolution. Dickens put it this way:
“I see Barsad, and Cly, Defarge, The Vengeance, the Jurymen, the Judge, long ranks of the new oppressors who have risen on the destruction of the old, perishing by this retributive instrument, before it shall cease out of its present use.”
In such a society eventually EVERYBODY is deemed a scumbag and deserves execution.
“Any and all”
Russia Is Strong–second post—The business of the world is business, the business of the USA is war and we are very good at it. When war is your business, enemies are every where.
Llpoh–Your post reveals your ignorance about reincarnation. But it doesn’t matter. The same as it doesn’t matter whether one believes in the law of gravity. Laws of the Universe operate with or without your consent or knowledge. Our culture is outwardly directed and very little effort is made to look within and consequently we can send a man to the moon, but we know very little about ourselves. We only acquire knowledge when we seem compelled to do so.
There is no shame in being ignorant, but it is nothing to be proud of either.
“Llpoh–Your post reveals your ignorance about reincarnation. But it doesn’t matter. The same as it doesn’t matter whether one believes in the law of gravity. Laws of the Universe operate with or without your consent or knowledge” ————— Homer
We know about gravity by studying it’s effects. It is indeed, a “Law” of the universe.
If you want to believe that you could have been a cockroach in a previous life, or that’s it’s possible you’ll be a cockroach in a future life … well, more power to ya. But, please, don’t go Full Fucking Retard by claiming it is part of the “Laws of the Universe”. It is nothing more than a “Belief”, and it requires faith.
Stuck–Comment on what you know about. Don’t compound the ignorance about reincarnation by making statements that prove it.
You have a right to your opinion, however, not all opinions carry the same weight. I would expect a more learned statement from you than “cockroaches”. Of course, perhaps your choice of wording was one of ridicule rather than one of ignorance.
I find in my own self an open mind ‘pending further review’ is a sound basis for learning. Isn’t that what science is all about?
Not one comment about why I think this way or what brought me to this conclusion. I think this is indicative of a closed mind. I hope I’m wrong, but not everyone has a passion for learning.
c’est la vie
Stuck–I’m a type 5 Enneagram (The Investigator) (Mastery and Understanding) . I look outward and inward through a window with those characteristics. Other types see things through their biases.
“We know about gravity by studying it’s effects. It is indeed, a “Law” of the universe.”
So, have you studied reincarnation? I didn’t think so.
Stuck–Most all knowledge that you posses is faith based. We live our lives based upon faith. We can’t all be physicists or doctors. We accept their discoveries on faith. What happened in Baltimore we accept on faith. We weren’t there. Even if we were there our knowledge would be limited as the event was so large. It is important to realize that things we accept as ‘cast in stone’ are not always ‘cast in stone’.
There is a big difference between faith and knowing and knowing that is a big step forward in understanding yourself.
Soooo …
“faith” that all the MSM teevee stations, and thousands of internet site, are all reporting the same basic facts in Baltimore ——— to you is the SAME as “faith” in reincarnation??
Yeah. Brilliant.
Tell me the truth …. are you a dothead? I don’t communicate with dotheads, so tell the truth.
You don’t know jackshit as to what I’ve studied. Quit being a pompous former maggot.
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“Not one comment about why I think this way or what brought me to this conclusion.” — the former cockroach
Read this slowly — I. Don’t. Give. A. Fuck. You can believe your mother is one of your pubic hairs, for all I care. There are a few people who, if they said they believed in reincarnation, I would be interested. You ain’t one of them!! As if I give a shit about every two-bit part-time poster and his or her “belief system” .. and then wants to fucken argue with me about it!!
My ONLY point was to say reincarnation is not some “Law of the Universe”. The only people who believe this are people like you … the rest of us, again, don’t give a flying fuck.
In closing, blow me. You’re a waste of my time.
Stuck–Attacking the messenger rather than the message, ehh.
It seem strange to me your overly emotional out burst in your last comment. Perhaps there is more here than meets the eye.
If you don’t give a f**k, why are you commenting? I care that is why I’m commenting.
If you feel that your time is wasted, I suggest that you are responsible for it not I.
I’m glad that you think that all the Laws of the Universe are know by you and duly noted and that no new laws will be forth coming.
“I’m glad that you think that all the Laws of the Universe are know by you and duly noted and that no new laws will be forth coming.” ——— Homer
OK … that’s much better.
So shall it be.
At the end of the day I have to ask this question, why in the name of Jebus was that nigga NOT in jail?? If indeed he had a rap sheet as long as your arm, his ass should have been in jail and we would not be here blathering about this. I don’t give a flying fuck about Baltimorons if they let these animals loose to roam their streets.
They can burn that mutha down for all I care.
Bea Lever–It’s because were broke, I think. It cost a lot of money to keep a person in jail. About $28,000 or more a year. The USA jails more people than any other country in the world. Why is that?
There is currently a disintegration of the social order in America. A failure at all levels, economic, churches, family and governance.
You are reaping the sins of unsound money and the philosophy of the ’60’s generation where everything is relevant and there isn’t any consequences for one’s actions.
How do you fix it you ask? Not to worry, the Universe will fix it for you, kicking and screaming. Hold on to your ‘Depends’ because it will be a real mess.
Homer
Could the universe make feral kneegrows disappear? Wow, that would be cool.
Also, I would like to own my own private island….could the universe provide me with that?? Please advise.
Bea–What’s a “feral kneegrows”? I just wrote that and I just got it. You mean wild Negros. . I guess the Universe just put them here to just aggravate you. Stop being aggravated, Your feelings are within your control.
You want your own private island? God gives you what you need not necessarily what you want. But, If you want it bad enough, you can create it in your life or perhaps your next lifetime. Seeds are planted, the harvest comes later.
Homer – you are a dolt. I know more about “re-incarnation” than I ever wanted to. I studied the religions of re-incarnation in depth.
And because I think that it is all a stinking pile of dogshit does not make me ignorant – by saying that you are saying anyone who disagrees with you is ignorant.
I am not ignorant. I just know batshit crazy when I see it.
Homer says- ” the universe gives you what you need not necessarily what you want”
OK fine, I NEED 100 oz of gold bullion ASAP. Poof….you are full of shit. In my next lifetime gold will be worthless and dogshit will be worth $1500 per oz.
Baltimore Attorney Marilyn Mosby looks like Michael Jackson.
Maybe reincarnation IS real!!
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Nah! Michael Jackson was prettier before he got worked over for the fourth time. Vanity?
Llpoh–I kinda thought you would take it as a personal attack. It wasn’t meant to be. I kinda thought of it as a reminder to be the best person that you could be.
Bea–You want 100 oz of AU, do you? Plant the seeds or are you wanten to get it for free? Llhop has planted the seeds and worked hard for it. He deserves the fruits of his harvest without shame or beholden to those who ‘want’ without giving.
TE / Sensetti: With the predilection for prescribing the “ease of use” newer anticoagulants (Dabigatran / Apixaban / Rivaroxaban), we’re already seeing an increase in “difficult to manage” intracranial bleeding – gone are the days when Vit K was a useful “first stop” for management.
Whether Warfarin was convenient or not, it was “relatively” easy to manage. Nowadays, “not so easy”, and there is always an elevated risk in cannulating Patients who are already leaking (seen, and unseen).
As an aside – recent (fatal) trauma patient (major trauma post car vs. pedestrian), Pt. quite literally bled out as a result of an apixaban / clopidogrel / aspirin combination (post stenting).
Llpoh–Studying the “religions of re-incarnation in depth’ is kinda like studying cooking by studying the tools for cooking and never frying an egg, The better choice would be to study reincarnation
This reminds me of an old joke about Germans. When Germans die .and they see a sign pointing in one direction that says, “This way to Heaven” and another sign pointing in another direction that says, “This way to Lectures about Heaven.” The Germans would go to the Lectures.
“Bea–You want 100 oz of AU, do you? Plant the seed … ” ——— Homer, aka Satan
Folks!!! Do NOT believe Homer! He is a LIAR, yea, even the Father of Lies. Stay away from him. Don’t argue with him. The Lord has told me that Homer bears the seed of Satan in in loins and teachings.
The MANNER in which he presents “planting seeds” is a combination of truth (planting seeds is a good thing) and bold-faced lies (that EVERYONE who plants eventually Reaps … ie, gets what he/she wants.) Note … if you want silver, you might be reincarnated as a silverfish …God has a perverted sense of humor.
I’m not kidding. He is truly FULL OF SHIT. His “seeds” message is no different than the (fake) Christian name-it-and-claim-it gospel, aka “prosperity preaching”.
Really, “Homer” is an ancient Austrian word meaning “fucked up deceiver”. Run from him!!
Here is Homer reincarnated as a neegrow preacha.
Phil from Oz–I’m even reluctant to take micro doses of aspirin. Several years ago, I thought I was dying. I wasn’t on deaths doorstep, but I could see it from where I was. I saw a bottle of ‘ionic trace minerals’ on the shelf of Whole Foods. It struck a cord with me. After taking it for a week, all the symptoms that convinced me the I was dying disappeared. I have been taking it every day when I awake, religiously.
I’m probably the oldest person posting on this site. Moses and I had the same kindergarten teacher. But, if you are one day older than Moses, you have me beat.
Stuck–There is such a thing as a metaphor. I stand by my words. If it doesn’t ring a bell with you find another bell that does. No bell has the complete truth or presents it in a way that’s understandable to all people. It’s ‘eyes to see and ears to hear’ thing. One has to be ready for the truth or it will just pass you by.
Eventually we are all dragged to the truth either in rejoicing or crying and screaming. But it might take awhile for some. But, don’t worry, we have eternity.
Stuck–HuH! Prosperity Preaching??? Boy, have you got that all wrong. “But to error is human….” I forgot the last part.
Well, that rattled a few cages. People will defend truth with great ferocity and people will defend un-truth with the same great ferocity. But the truth is that the truth doesn’t need defending, it has always stood on its own and more often than not, alone.
Homer – Muck is pretty old too. I think he said he taught Methuselah’s kindergarten class.
Llpoh–Well, Muck and I can have a party, but we can’t get to excited. That could be dangerous.
Stucky
I could post a PO Box address if any facet of the universe would like to make my AU dreams come true. What if Homer has the 411 to universal truth?? We could be missing out big time……naaaaahhhhh.
Could it be Satan ?
And also Stuck, I agree 100% that all of those televangelists are devil spawns preaching that “seed” dribble. Homer just extends it to the next lifetime which by the way Baptist do not believe exists.
Stucky I watched your video above and it made me realize how your preaching has faded over the years, at one time you would thump the good book a little. You need to pick your game up.
Homer sounded like a scientologist, I don’t believe Christians speak of Enrons. He may be a Thetan.
It’s all fun and games until somebody gets their spine cracked.
Phil from Oz. you must perform in a Cath lab. No?
Proud to be #100
EC- Please explain Thetan.
In Scientology, a thetan is the term corresponding to one’s “spirit”, but unlike some other religions, the spirit or soul isn’t something that is different from you. You are the thetan, the awareness of awareness, and you wear a mind and a body. – Wikipedia
Incidentally, Bea, I read one guy’s revelation that he was but an observer of his life. He said his reality consisted of observing himself seconds after he acted.
This makes sense when you consider the comment of a Mexican initiate into murder for hire, sometimes for as little as 100 pesos, less than $10.00
He said his first murder, he seemed to be watching, almost standing beside himself, looking on as he killed somebody point blank.
When Gray first yells out near the van, he yells something about “my wrist”.
At 2:23, Gray turns his head to the right. At that point he is standing on a step as he is about to enter the back of the van.
No way was his spinal cord injured prior to entering the van. But what really happened in the van is speculation until facts are provided.
EL Coyote–No I’m not a Scientologist nor a Thetan. But I’m well aware of their philosophy. Sorry!
The only good thing to come out of Scientology, in my opinion, was the ‘third party rule’. If two people can’t get along and resolve their differences, there is a third party in there stirring the pot.
Look you got it all wrong, folks. Reincarnation is not a religious thing. Get over it.
Bea–You most likely will get what you deserve, not what you think you deserve. Take responsibility for your situation in this life or, I guess, you can be like the demonstrators in Baltimore or liberal progressives and blame everything on others. You are really not ‘entitled’ except what you yourself create.
You want a 100 oz of AU? Create it in your own life or is that too much work?
Bea Lever–You’re too lazy to look up Thetan on Wikipedia, and instead ask someone to explain it to you– someone else to do the work for you. I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for 100 oz of AU to come rolling in.
Karma has no deadline. Dirty cops die in strange ways.