All this talk in the past week about nuke bombs …. well, it put me in the mood to see shit getting blown up.
Best watched in full screen and with the volume way up … so you can appreciate fully the KABOOM!!
I just love the one at the 1:20 mark … all those flames!
Sometimes things don’t go according to plan. lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=XHcCbY2wY38
2 THINGS TO NOTICE ABOUT THESE EXPLOSIONS …. ESPECIALLY IF YOU’RE A 9-11 TRUFER NUTJOB
Disclaimer: I do NOT believe the official government story about 9-11. Why? Because the USA!USA!USA! government is a den of fucking liars … about everything. This is now established fact, and requires no proof.
HOWEVER, that does not mean I have to believe the incredibly wacky, illogical, and demonstratively impossible idea that explosives brought down the towers.
1. Notice that NOT ONE SINGLE demolition collapse ….. STARTS AT THE TOP, as is the case with the WTC towers. Not. One. Ultimately, it is not the explosion that brings down a building, it is gravity. And that’s why ALL demolitions focus on destroying support columns at THE BOTTOM, and middle (for taller buildings), and NEVER at the top. Is that fuckin’ clear enough!!??
2. LOOK AT DEM DERE SQUIBS!!!
Truthers just love their SQUIBS! They even circle the little fuckers, in case you might miss them. Truthers say it is an explosive charge going off … and a SURE sign of a “controlled demolition”.
They say that these squibs increase with time as the building collapses. Indeed, in the above picture they event say “Oops … too early!”. Horseshit. Sadly for them, this is the exact reverse of how these explosions work! The strongest point in the explosion is the moment the charge is set off, and when ALL the squibs have detonated before the building starts falling. They don’t go off AS the building is falling (as the above picture demands).
Truthers have squibs going off as low as the 40th floor. Think about how insanely illogical that is …. 60 floors have already collapsed, and they still have squibs exploding just as the collapse reaches the 40th floor! Fuckin’ nuts.
Go back at look at the videos. Are those squibs tiny little puffs of smoke barely visible, or are they BIG AND LOUD AND VERY VISIBLE? Do they occur AS the building is falling, or all at once before the building falls? Do they occur at the top, or the middle and bottom? When you answer those questions correctly, you will no longer be bedazzled by Truther bullshit.
@DRUD
— “Yes, razzle, that is exactly what I said…unless you speak and read English. Jesus Christ can no one actually read for comprehension?”
I’m trying to lead your horse to water. But I can’t make it drink.
Read that for comprehension.
No one questions that a plane hit the Pentagon. It was tracked by radar and visually identified by a C-130 pilot. The question is ;who or what was flying it because for sure the Saudi named could never have handled a 757 with such accuracy. Around 500 top, top pilots agree on that…check it out.. .
Also, the other strange thing is that piece of wreckage on the lawn. It’s painted white. All American Airlines
are shinny aluminum.
Stucky..Justt got off the phone with Larry Silverstein. He agrees with you.
The Manhattan Project. Operation Northwoods. Project for a New American Century. Vigilant Guardian. 9/11.
In that order.
I can explain it to you, but I can’t understand it for you.
All kidding aside it’s a rabbit hole that you’d be better off not going down.
I would razzle, but it is totally incomprehensible and ridiculously out of context…bordering upon lunacy.
Then…we get to genuine lunacy…Vinration devices? Are you fucking kidding me? Are you looking for the most absurd explanation possible?
Do you realize the amount of energy required? Far more than ANY device not weighing TONS could produce.
And I am truly done with this thread…but my TBP addiction shall remain in full force. I just can no longer argue with fools…I may end up losing the argument (in exactly the way Twain predicted) as well as my friggin’ mind….perhaps an embolism from the rampant and colossal assaults upon logic.
I don’t have a clue where flight 77 is, it would be easier to disappear one plane instead of four. Maybe it did hit the pentagon. All I really know is that the offical story is B.S. I asked earlier and know has answered, did the plane hit the accounting dept?
BTW I have been following your site for about one and a half years, its one of my go to sites. Thanks for your hard work and thanks to the man with no name.
@HSF – huh? You drop in after 200+ comments worth of shitfest, then drop some enigmatic whispers of decades worth of conspiracy…then slip off?
No sir, we need to hear more from you…
@DRUD
— “I would razzle, but it is totally incomprehensible and ridiculously out of context…bordering upon lunacy.”
In the 1940’s the allied governments worked together and used over 100,000 people at 30 sites across multiple continents to design and build a device that can fit in a single plane capable of packing enough energy to demolish an entire city… all done in secret from the public until the government itself disclosed it.
But it’s lunacy to suggest that in the 1990’s modern governments might have used a large number of people across multiple locations to build something capable of packing enough energy to demolish an entire building… all done in secret from the public until/unless the government itself decides to disclose it.
Right. 🙂
Because the government are liars and thieves when it comes to money and geopolitical agendas… but totally above the board when disclosing what their bombs are capable of.
” It was used as the excuse for the coup. Why is that so hard for the truthers to understand?” I understand just fine, it matters little if 911 was preplanned and executed by elements of the Federal Government or 911 was capitalized on as an opportunity, to execute a cuop by elements of the Federal Government that had been preplanned.
The Saudi connection is…disturbing.
“Truthers never have answers, only questions.”
Amen.
I love how you morons use the word “truth” as a derogatory term. Yes I am a truther. I seek the truth. Go fuck yourself and let me know when you find some.
Cogdissnormbias
Do you have tourettes syndrome, or do truthers just feel the need to repeat themselves?
Oh…Good Lord…I wish I could take my own sage advice…
razzle – it is NOT that the govt WOULDN”T do such a thing…it is that NO GOVERNMENT COULD DO SUCH A THING. Hundreds of variables, each impossible to predict would have to come together exactly as predicted…THEN thousands of people who knew would have to keep quite about it DESPITE knowing that it caused 3000 deaths…and they ALL keep quiet for 15 years.
Look at the evidence…forget the Manhattan Project…Forget the Knights Templar….The Free Masons…The Illuminati…The Fucking Smurfs…because they all bear the same amount of infuence upon what actually happened on Sept 11, 2001. ZERO!
I love how you morons use the word truth as a derogatory term. I am a truther. I seek truth. Go fuck yourself.
@admin
— “9/11 didn’t have to be an inside job for the coup d etat to happen.”
It also didn’t have to be an inside job for a demolition to happen.
— “It was used as the excuse for the coup. Why is that so hard for the truthers to understand?”
Most people who think it was probably a demolition know the coup happened long before 9/11.
— “Truthers never have answers, only questions.”
Well considering the government itself doesn’t have answers for building 7 either and determined the cause of WTC 7’s collapse is still undetermined and in need of more investigation despite not being allowed to investigate the crime scene… the plebs are just continuing their work for free.
Stucky,
242 comments. you Da Man. I watched part of the video with the truther engineers seems pretty convincing especially the controlled demolition of building 7, but I am with Admin on this one. How could a government as professionally inept as the one we are currently paying for ever, EVER pull off such an in your fave stunt and have no leaks. That’s a lot of payoffs and sanctions, which themselves would unlikely go unnoticed. Still there is that tinge of would they/ Could they?
Bob.
Argument Number 1: Secrets cannot be kept in regards to clandestine Government operations. Rebuttal Number 1: Manhattan Project
Argument Number 2: Governments are inept but not diabolical in regards to the safety and well being of their citizens. they may fail to protect them, but they would never intentionally target them in order to push an agenda.
Rebuttal Number 2: Operation Northwoods
Argument Number 3: What possible reason would the government have for attacking itself? It makes no sense.
Rebuttal Number 3: Project for a New American Century
Argument Number 4: There was no way anyone could have ever anticipated using aircraft as weapons. NORAD exists to protect the US from threats from the sky, only this time there was nothing anyone could have done, no way anyone could have known, nothing that could be done even as events unfolded.
Rebuttal Number 4: Vigilant Guardian
Anyone on here who is not familiar with the name Cass Sunstein and his efforts should take a few minutes to look him up, see who employs him, see what he specializes in and read some of his work. See if that doesn’t cause a scale or two to fall from your eyes in regards to “conspiracy theories”.
9/11 was the result of a criminal conspiracy. There is no question about that. Who? Why?
As any detective will tell you there must be means, motive and ability to tie a perp to a crime. Ask yourself who possessed all three and you may have a chance at determining the answer to the questions above.
Did t4c flounce?
Bummer.
So a neo-con think tank is the reason for the government attacking itself? Sorry. No scales falling from my eyes on this red herring.
Project for a New American Century
Written before the September 11 attacks, and during political debates of the War in Iraq, a section of Rebuilding America’s Defenses entitled “Creating Tomorrow’s Dominant Force” became the subject of considerable controversy. The passage suggested that the transformation of American armed forces through “new technologies and operational concepts” was likely to be a long one, “absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor.”[45] Journalist John Pilger pointed to this passage when he argued that Bush administration had used the events of September 11 as an opportunity to capitalize on long-desired plans.[48]
Some critics went further, asserting that Rebuilding America’s Defenses should be viewed as a program for global American hegemony. Writing in Der Spiegel in 2003, Jochen Bölsche claimed that Rebuilding America’s Defenses “had been developed by PNAC for Rumsfeld, Cheney, Wolfowitz and Libby,” and was “devoted to matters of ‘maintaining US pre-eminence, thwarting rival powers and shaping the global security system according to US interests.'”[42][49] British MP Michael Meacher made similar allegations in 2003, stating that Rebuilding America’s Defences was “a blueprint for the creation of a global Pax Americana,” which had been “drawn up for” key members of the Bush administration.[50] Academic Peter Dale Scott subsequently wrote
“[PNAC’s] ideology was summarized in a major position paper, Rebuilding America’s Defenses, in 2000. This document advocated a global Pax Americana unrestrained by international law…”[51]
Other academics, such as Donald E. Abelson and Phillip Hammond, have suggested that many of these criticisms were overblown, while noting that similar statements about PNAC’s origins, goals, and influence “continue to make their way into the academic literature on the neo-conservative network in the United States.” Hammond, for example, notes that while Rebuilding America’s Defenses “is often cited as evidence that a blueprint for American domination of the world was implemented under cover of the war on terrorism,” it was actually “unexceptional.” According to Hammond, the report’s recommendations were “exactly what one would generally expect neoconservatives to say, and it is no great revelation that they said it in publicly-available documents prior to September 2001.”[52] Similarly, Abelson has written that “evaluating the extent of PNAC’s influence is not as straightforward” as Meacher and others maintain,” as “we know very little about the inner workings of this think tank and whether it has lived up to its billing as the architect of Bush’s foreign policy”.[53]
So NORAD conducted simulation games every year of attacks on the US. I guess that proves it was an inside job.
The September 11 attacks in 2001 occurred during that year’s Global Guardian and Vigilant Guardian joint exercises. That year, according to the 9/11 Commission Report, Vigilant Guardian ‘postulated a bomber attack from the former Soviet Union’ on North America. The Russian 37th Air Army was, in fact, conducting major bomber exercises across the Arctic and Atlantic at this time, amongst the largest carried out by them since 1993. Both the American and the Russian exercises were cancelled after the attack.
The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States investigated the possibility that Vigilant Guardian preparations compromised the military’s response to the attacks on September 11. They concluded that the exercise may have had, in fact, the effect of expediting the response to the attacks.
On page 17 of the 9/11 Commission Report when Boston center calls NEADS (Northeast Air Defense Sector), the response from NEADS was “is this real world or exercise?”. According to the 9/11 Commission’s staff statement No. 17,[1] for instance, page 26 of the Commission’s final report documents FAA’s report of a “phantom flight 11” at 9:21,[2] 35 minutes after the real flight 11 crashed into the WTC and even longer after the war games are alleged to have been aborted. However, General Ralph Eberhart told the 9/11 Commission “it took about 30 seconds” to make the adjustment to the real-world situation (note 116 to chapter 1).
The Vigilant Guardian war game was discussed in chapter 1, footnote 116 of the 9/11 Commission Report:
“On 9/11, NORAD was scheduled to conduct a military exercise, Vigilant Guardian, which postulated a bomber attack from the former Soviet Union. We investigated whether military preparations for the large-scale exercise compromised the military’s response to the real-world terrorist attack on 9/11. According to General Eberhart, “it took about 30 seconds” to make the adjustment to the real-world situation. Ralph Eberhart testimony, June 17, 2004. We found that the response was, if anything, expedited by the increased number of staff at the sectors and at NORAD because of the scheduled exercise. See Robert Marr interview (Jan. 23, 2004).”
An operation proposed by some crazy generals in 1962 and REJECTED by Kennedy is proof?
Operation Northwoods was a proposed operation against the Cuban government, that originated within the Department of Defense (DoD) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) of the United States government in 1962. The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) or other US government operatives to commit acts of terrorism against American civilians and military targets, blaming it on the Cuban government, and using it to justify a war against Cuba. The proposals were rejected by the Kennedy administration.[2]
@DRUD
— “…it is that NO GOVERNMENT COULD DO SUCH A THING.”
You can guarantee that with the same level of certainty as the sun rising and gravity tugging at Stucky’s conscience?
— “Hundreds of variables, each impossible to predict would have to come together exactly as predicted…”
Perhaps in your way of solving the problem. Mine would have lots of room for error correction along the way and plenty of room to breath and respond to hiccups.
— “THEN thousands of people who knew would have to keep quite about it DESPITE knowing that it caused 3000 deaths…and they ALL keep quiet for 15 years.”
Most of the people would have no idea… they are just doing unrelated research, installing benign seeming devices, etc. The number of people who actually know what they are up to need be no more than it took to nuke two entire cities.
— “Look at the evidence…”
Three buildings in one day collapsing into their own footprints at near free fall speed… and all other buildings in the history of buildings taking impacts and fires and not once doing the same.
— “forget the Manhattan Project…”
Why would I do that? It’s evidence of how well the government can coordinate a vast network of people to build something to kill thousands of people at once and keep it secret until they disclose it themselves?
— “Forget the Knights Templar….The Free Masons…The Illuminati…The Fucking Smurfs…”
Wow.
And after all of this, Stucky still goes after people for being “sexist” just for the simple observation that the 19th amendment turned out to be a bad idea after all.
Cogdissnormbias
Seeking truth means following evidence…NO MATTER WHERE IT LEADS. Can any truthers out there honestly say that is what they are doing?
Honestly, this is the most I’ve thought about 9/11 in years. I wrote everything I wrote this morning off the cuff…honestly, I convinced myself more than anything. Conspiracy Theories (and I hate the term, because it is used primarily as an excuse to stop thinking by people who want to dismiss an uncomfortable topic) are interesting… we all want the big, game-changing events to MEAN something. Before this morning I think I really believed in a conspiracy (and I still do on some level) but put yourself on the ground on that day…put yourself in the shoes of the primary conspiricists trying to pull off this huge show… and you soon realize it could not be pulled off in the way it went down….or at the very least it would be like winning ten trifectas in a single day at the track…and who would lay down a bet like that years in advance?
@DRUD
— “…and you soon realize it could not be pulled off in the way it went down…”
You don’t speak for me. I don’t realize that.
— “…or at the very least it would be like winning ten trifectas in a single day at the track…”
You know how it seems like magicians can defy the odds when you don’t know their trick?
Yeah… you are doing the equivalent of saying “Well he MUST have sawed her in half!” THERE IS NO OTHER WAY!!!
— “and who would lay down a bet like that years in advance?”
Someone who stands to gain a lot if it works… and won’t be caught if it fails.
@DRUD
— “I convinced myself more than anything.”
That’s some powerful power of persuasion there.
@HSF-
Argument 1 – I believe I pointed out the vast differences in scope and in time period and in simple human terms between the Manhattan Project and 9/11 conspiracy
Argument 2 – I have never and would never make such a claim.
Argument 3 – I have never and would never make such a claim.
Powerful government psychopaths would curb stomp their grandmothers to advance their agendas/garner more power.
Argument 4 – I have never and would never make such a claim…both Stephen King and Tom Clancy wrote novels about using planes as weapons before 9/11…I personally had read them both before 9/11.
ALL of my arguments revolve around the logistics of both conducting and covering up such a massive conspiracy.
@admin
— “The proposals were rejected by the Kennedy administration.”
Which was easily corrected and replaced by more forward thinking administrations in the following decades.
@DRUD
— “ALL of my arguments revolve around the logistics of both conducting and covering up such a massive conspiracy.”
All of your arguments revolve around your logistics… they have nothing to do with what people smarter than you and with different priorities might be capable of.
Most people wouldn’t have been able to argue the logistics of the Manhattan project either. Most people *still* couldn’t pull off those logistics even with the script in front of them.
Your ability to solve a magic trick does not limit the magician’s ability to do the trick.
Apparently some of you fuckers don’t know how to read or maybe you just don’t give a shit, but a lot of the argument points in this thread have been seriously explored. For those of you who still have an open mind, here are some links:
http://www.ae911truth.org/
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/04/04/911-nuke-demolition-proof-firefighters-radiation-cancers-off-the-scale/
For the fuckers who want facts that debunk Westcoaster and his truther buddies here are some links:
http://debunking911.com/
http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a49/1227842/
If you pussies can’t take the TBP heat, get the fuck out of the kitchen.
If you take positions that can’t be supported with facts, you’ll get kicked in the balls by someone.
If you can’t take getting kicked in the balls, come to the game with facts.
Theories and fantasy beliefs are not facts.
I love when the 9/11 truthers get all bent out of shape because TBP doesn’t bow down to their bullshit.
@Copperhead,
Appreciate the open minds here. Hard to believe sometimes how deep this rabbit hole goes. Here’s the best reference I can find on short notice:
“on September 10, 2001, on the eve of the worst terrorist attack in US history, when Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld acknowledged during a press conference that the Department of Defense (DoD) could not account for $2.3 trillion of the massive Pentagon budget, a number so large as to be incomprehensible.[2] Any remaining hope that the US military might still get its budgetary house in order were dashed at 9:38 am the next morning, when the west wing of the Pentagon exploded in flames and smoke, the target of a terrorist strike. Incredibly, the exact point of impact was the DoD’s accounting offices on the first floor.”
“My leading guess as to what was used to bring the towers down was vertically directed vibration” ——-razzle
Vertically directed vibration ………. sounds like a bunch of Trufers jacking off in unison.
What happened to the idea the buildings were nuked.
The amount of utter horseshit you assholes can come with … well, it’s actually kind of impressive, in a Bizzaro World kind of way.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_government_operations_and_exercises_on_September_11,_2001
Anyone not conversant with the staged drills that took place on the morning of 9/11 which included “injects” (fictional radar blips on air traffic control screens), hijacked airliners and planes crashing into government buildings that were all written off by the 9/11 Commission as “coincidences” including the Operation Tripod Drill run by the Office of Emergency Management in… drum roll please…WTC 7 needs to do five minutes of research.
Has anyone ever brought up Coincidence Theory, because that would explain everything.
Thanks Anarcho.
Thats why the pentagon strike seems weird, the plane hitting that exact spot.
Oh and HSF, OF COURSE 9/11 was a “criminal conspiracy.” By definition…many people got together to commit a massive crime. Never in dispute.
Nikola Tesla once built a vibrating thing he attached to a girder and supposedly could bring a building down…
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I don’t know what caused the collapse..but I did read about ‘Able Danger’
I think it was a ‘let it happen’ thing and used as a pretext for invading Iraq and Afghanistan.
Never addressed advanced-knowledge debate here and I won’t because I have no clue. Advance knowledge is like ignorance of the law…it can never be proved/disproved. Controlled demolition people, stick to that and only that because that is all I have ever argued…
and I say the odds are about 10 million to one against.
“I think it was a ‘let it happen’ thing and used as a pretext for invading Iraq and Afghanistan.” – Kill Bill
That I could see. I maintain that regardless of other aspects, the collapses caught EVERYONE by surprise.
“I have made you take your ball and go home twice.” ———- dildo
Ummm, no you haven’t. You can’t piss me off because you rarely have anything even remotely interesting to say.
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“And unlike you, I believe T4C will not be back, which is a shame.” ———- dildo
Yes, it would be a shame. But, that’s on her. The first time someone plays rough with her, she bolts. This place isn’t for pussies — which is why I’m surprised you lasted this long — so, if she feels she has to leave, so be it.
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“Then this supposed big dawg (which in reality, is blah blah blah blah” ———- dildo
yap yap yapity yap …. you’re not qualified to discuss Big Dog status, you’re just another annoying bitch flapping his gums, so really, just shut the fuck up.
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“I will NOT be commenting further.” ———– dildo (up his ass)
First intelligent comment you’ve made in weeks. Forever? PLEASE say “yes”. And don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, ya cumstain.
KB – Nicola Tesla was a genius of incredible proportions. I’ve heard all kinds of stories of shit he did that NO ONE has ever been able to repeat.
Keep going Stucky by midnight all that will be left is you, Admin, SSS, Loopey the lap dog and maybe HSF.
I predict future comment counts at 5. Could be 10 if you guys comment twice. heh
Even Hardscrabble Farmer is a Trufer. Wow. Inhaling all that pig shit and chicken shit must have killed off too many brain cells.
You Trufers really should never again call Dems, Repubs, Free Shitters, etc etc dumbass morons … cuz really, they don’t hold a candle to your idiocy.
Admin-
None of the examples I gave prove anything, each one does disprove the contentions made by the government in the aftermath of 9/11.
1) Secrets can be kept.
2) The Government has made plans to hijack airplanes full of US citizens and kill them in order to blame it on a foreign power justifying an otherwise unobtainable military objective.
3) PNAC outlines a grim future for the American Empire (their words) “…absent some catalyzing and catastrophic event, a new Pearl Harbor…” Ten of the 25 members served on President Bush’s cabinet. The stated goals were the invasion of Iraq and he control of cyberspace as well as the installation of a massive intelligence network to keep tabs on the American people.
4) Vigilant Guardian was a mock-up version of the actual events that took place on that same day. NSA head Mr./Mrs./Ms./Whatever Condi Rice lied to the 9/11 Commission stating, “”No one could have anticipated anyone using airplanes as bombs,” despite the fact her department was involved in that very exercise.
That is just four samples off the top of my head. Each one written off in the official version as “coincidence”.
So we’ve poo-poo’ed Conspiracy Theory even though we have conspirators (PNAC/Chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff/Department of Defense). We’ve dismissed claims of Government being able to keep secrets on a large scale involving the future mass murder of civilians even though they’ve done it before. We call them incompetent even though they managed to fulfill their wishes, consolidate their power, turn the entire country into a mass surveillance state, print untold trillions of dollars in debt, open the borders wide to invading foreign hostiles while insisting Americans have themselves x-rayed and groped to fly to Denver. How is it that they are never incompetent at keeping the reins of power ever more tightly in their grip?
Means, Motive, Opportunity.
Again, I can’t prove anything and I no longer care, but at some point when enough evidence points in the same direction you have to be willing to consider the possibility. Or not, it’s a free country…
Bwahahahahahaha!!!
I also have another approach called Incompetence Theory, maybe I’ll share that one too.
Bea Lever (in bullshit)
How many threads have YOU started? I’m not even talking ORIGINAL work … I’m talking about even a copy and paste of an article.
hmmmmm??
Would it be … ummm …. ZERO?
Why, YES, I believe so! So, really, ya Kentucky Fried Faggot — you really aren’t in a position to talk bullshit. Because, it pretty clear, you are jealous of me, the Master.
But, let’s try an experiment. Post something!!! Anything. Let’s see if it even gets 10 responses. Lemme help you … post TITS, and you MIGHT get 10 responses.
BEA
Are you really going to hit the road over one post where there is major disagreement?
Do you really want TBP to be a Kumbaya site where we all kiss each other’s asses?
Trust me. We’ve had massive shitfests before and we’ll have massive shitfests in the future.
If people choose to stop commenting, I really don’t give a flying fuck. It’s a free world.
Anyone can hit the road at any time. I’ll still be here posting shit day after day. No skin off my back.
Maybe Bobbie Finnegan will welcome you over on the 5th Estate.
Admin – I think I may have tourrettes, but I cannot prove it. That is the truth brother.
Stuck- Please review YOUR thread and YOU will notice that you are the winner of the “Debbie Downer” award. That should give you some idea where you and your band of merry makers stand, all three of you.
On the other hand you may want to notice the thumbs up for the truther ARMY are MASSSSIVE!!
You are a toothless tiger who still thinks he is all that (cough). You are sucking hind tit BIGTIME.
More TRUTH from Hardscrabble…..ouch
ADMIN- Calling the ladies the “C” word is over the line.
This is great fun for me, that about covers it. I think people like what I say at times if they don’t, who cares. Stucky is being Stucky, look at how bad he has been downed.
TRUTHERS WIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The shitfests are fun…and no we should never kiss each others asses or just be polite. You can only learn something new from people who disagree with you.
HSF – You are correct–conspiracies exist, cover-ups happen every day, things that in past were beyond credulity have been proven to have happened. I have no idea who knew what prior to 9/11 and how deep the cover-up afterward became. I do know that planes hit the twin towers…I am a certain as I can be that those impacts and their results alone collapsed the towers. Building 7 has always bugged me, but the structural damage Stucky’s earlier video showed made me believe that at least the official story (of its physical collapse) is plausible.
That the government WOULD do such a thing has never been in doubt….hell, they would most likely convince themselves that they were heroes for doing so…breaking a few eggs to make spectacular omelettes. Perhaps the oldest of all tyrant’s rationalizations.
I, too, no longer care. I had fun flinging some shit here today, but just like all the other events of the past–attempting to find the truth is futile and tiring. The present is where we all must live and the future our only concern. I believe (and doubt I am alone) that we will face events in the next few years that will make 9/11 seem minor in comparison. The world is a powder-keg right now and the fuse is short.
More supposition and theory from Hardscrabble. No hard facts. No answers to how it could be pulled off by an incompetent government. No details on how this secret conspiracy of thousands has been kept silent for 14 years.
Just more questions and ponderings.
That’s all you’ve got.
Westcoaster and T4C don’t even believe passenger jets flew into the towers. Now that is some funny shit.
Now I remember why I stopped posting 9/11 threads. The stupid burns.
” …. you are the winner of the “Debbie Downer” award. That should give you some idea where you and your band of merry makers stand, all three of you.” ———- Bea Lever (in bullshit)
Another fine example of flawed logic at work. No wonder you believe the towers were done blowed up.
If I go to Daily Kos and say “I love Ron Paul!”, and I get 500 thumbs down, what does that actually mean? Nothing, really.
The thumbs downers here also really don’t matter. Except in one area … people here are a lot more gullible and ignorant than I ever suspected. And that’s a shame.
Hey ASSWIPE …. you’re really not going to give me those broken laws of physics, are you? And you call me a toothless tiger? Well, at least I’m not brainless, like you.
So, is it really true … you’re going to take your little ball and run home to mommie forever? Is that right? If so, before you go, will you at least admit you’re a Pussy Boy?
“Even Hardscrabble Farmer is a Trufer. Wow. Inhaling all that pig shit and chicken shit must have killed off too many brain cells.”
Yes, that must be it Stucky.
I am eating a delicious BLT right now, every part of which we raised right here on the farm. Later this afternoon when I feed the pigs I will scratch behind their ears and if they have thoughts it will likely be ‘Gee, this guy is really nice.”
Normally I don’t name them, but I will name one Stucky.
This is a legitimate question I have that I honestly cannot answer although there may be a reasonable explanation.
Why was a an airliner allowed to fly directly into the pentagon? Why was the plane not blown out of the air? I know NORAD stood down but why no surface to air missiles? Why is Cheney not negligent for the deaths at the Pentagon for not ordering that? Didn’t Sec. Mineta detail how they watched it fly in and allowed it to happen?
Forgive me for seeking the Trufe
BEA
Nothing is over the line on TBP.
The only rule is there are no rules.
It is as clear as day that good old flash arrived on the scene and down thumbed Stuck numerous times to try and piss him off.
You can glory in your thumbs because you ain’t got no facts to back up your case.