Donald Trump: Saddam Hussein and Gaddafi Made the World Safer

Guest Post by Jake Anderson

 

(ANTIMEDIA) In perhaps an accidental moment of lucid foreign policy insight over the weekend, GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump stated the Middle East would be better off today if Saddam Hussein and Moammar Gadhafi were still in power. The statement came during an interview on NBC’s Meet the Press and was reiterated during a rally in Franklin, Tennessee, where 1,500 people listened to Trump sound off on the United States’ strategy of arming rebels in Libya prior to the overthrow of its dictator in 2011.

Trump likened the scenario to what is currently happening in Syria, where he says the terror group ISIS emerged from a power vacuum left after Saddam Hussein was deposed in Iraq. This is a refrain from his statements during the second GOP debate, during which he said the world would be safer if the long-time dictator had remained in power.

Trump thinks the same of President Bashar Assad of Syria. Though he is “probably a bad guy,” the Middle East is safer with him, Trump apparently believes.

“You can make the case, if you look at Libya, look at what we did there — it’s a mess — if you look at Saddam Hussein with Iraq, look what we did there — it’s a mess — it’s [Syria] going to be same thing,” he said.

During the Franklin rally, Trump pointed out the relative lack of terrorist activity in Iraq during Hussein’s reign.

“You know what he used to do to terrorists?” Trump asked the crowd. “A one day trial and shoot him…and the one day trial usually lasted five minutes, right? There was no terrorism then.”

While there is no disputing the terrible and widespread violence these dictators perpetrated on their own people, are Trump’s statements accurate?

Is the Middle East less safe without Hussein and Gadhafi? Many analysts say Saddam’s ruthless police state kept sectarian divisions under relative control. Similarly, Gaddafi’s repressive regime kept warlords from Africa many of whom had strong links to Islamic terroristsfrom allowing groups like ISIS to take root.

Secretary of State John Kerry has vigorously denied the claim that military actions by the United States are responsible for more bloodshed in these countries. “This is about ISIL’s terrorist designs on the state of Iraq. And no-one should mistake what is happening or why,” said Kerry.

It should also be noted that in both cases, any modicum of stabilization was the direct result of brutal domestic state terrorism. In Iraq, this included Hussein, a minority Sunni who ruled Iraq for 24 years, utilizing chemical weapons in 1988 to kill thousands of Kurds and brutally murdering a large number of Shi’ites in 1991 and 1998.

In Libya, Gaddafi murdered thousands of political opponents and committed countless brutal crimes abroad.

Assad is guilty of his own unacceptable atrocities in Syria and, to once again echo Trump’s inane truthism, is “probably a bad guy.”

The question, of course, is not whether to rhetorically defend the bloodshed of brutal dictators who are guilty of countless war crimes, but rather, whether their actions warrant United States military intervention.

Further, since it can be shown that the global war on terror continues to destabilize the region, Donald Trump’s point is well taken, even if he is right for the wrong reasons. America’s economic imperialism, masquerading as national security interests in the Middle East, allows ISIS to gain power. As we continue our decades-old practice of arming dangerous rebels to destabilize the Middle East, a real estate mogul/reality TV star has accidentally stated a truth few other GOP candidates will acknowledge.

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flash
flash
October 6, 2015 9:12 am

yeah but…[imgcomment image[/img]

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
October 6, 2015 12:42 pm

Yeah, Saddam killed at least tens of thousands of Iraqi Shia… but the neocons failed to note that it was 15+ years before we invaded Iraq and he used the nerve gas he bought from us. Gaddafi was pretty cooperative during his last years in power. So Trump was not only right that our military actions were ill-advised, he was also right in implying that they weren’t justified. On foreign policy, the most correct candidates are Rand Paul & Donald Trump. David’s Stockman’s epic takedown of Fiorina http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/clueless-carly-crony-capitalist-war-monger-with-flash-cards/ applies equally well to Rubio & the rest of the neocon Republican Establishment candidates – except Jeb, who is too dense to even memorize flash cards.

Anonymous
Anonymous
October 6, 2015 3:10 pm

trump could be the lesser of evil according to this…

Sensetti
Sensetti
October 6, 2015 3:31 pm

God, Bless Donald Trump, I just had a …wait for it…are you waiting? Illegal alien Mexican beat my ass out on a rental property. I’m drinking 1800 tequila looking to fuck his sister tonight.

Sensetti
Sensetti
October 6, 2015 3:32 pm

That’s not my fucking icon I really don’t need shit today

Sensetti
Sensetti
October 6, 2015 3:36 pm

Ok I have a couple rent houses, I don’t mind renting to the illegal bastard, but when they start buying property out from underneath me. I’m screaming Bitch Please!

Sensetti
Sensetti
October 6, 2015 3:37 pm

Admin change my fucking icon back to blue please!

Sensetti
Sensetti
October 6, 2015 4:58 pm

Or pink, because I am such a whiny bitch.

Rosemarie
Rosemarie
October 6, 2015 5:03 pm

Trump is correct! The Iraq war & toppling Saddam created a vacuum in the middle east. It brought aboi ISIS, Iran, Lidya now Syria. When will the U.S> learn to stop nation building. If their men & women are not willing ti die for their country why in the hell are we fighting their war for them. Their culture is still in the 14thcentury where women are treated like dogs….We (U.S.) have a lot of problems here in our country just to name a few: economy, high unemployment, infra structure, high rate of welfare, healthcare problem, illegal immigrants…. we do not have the luxury to go starting out wars…. take care of our country first.

Lysander
Lysander
October 6, 2015 5:45 pm

Right on Mr. Trump. That’s what I like about him….he says the stuff other chicken shit politicians are afraid to say. If another country has an evil dictator then let the citizens there deal with him.

If ‘Murika! is so hot to bring freedom and democracy to the oppressed, how come we haven’t gone after North Korea? It wouldn’t have anything to do with the fact that they have the Bomb, would it? Plus they ain’t got no oil, neither. (That should piss off the spelling nazis).

SSS
SSS
October 6, 2015 8:27 pm

The biggest threat Arab dictators pose is to their own people, particularly the radical Muslims, Sunni and Shia alike. Terrorism “in the name of Allah” is dealt with harshly, to put it mildly.

The biggest mistake these dictators have made is venturing outside their comfort zone (Libya’s ties to the Lockerbie bombing, Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait, and Syria’s surrogate support of Hezbollah on behalf of Iran), acts which raised the ire and IRRATIONAL ACTIONS of the West. In Iraq. Especially in Libya. And now in Syria, where Trump’s statement is largely correct. Assad is better than the alternative.

Did any of this arouse Russia and its strong ties to the Mideast over the decades? No, other than the obligatory diplomatic condemnation here and there. Russia’s patience with an imperfect, and often dictatorial, world is paying off. The only “Reset” needed here is US foreign policy.

jamesthewanderer
jamesthewanderer
October 7, 2015 4:47 pm

Anyone remember the “rape rooms” that Saddam and his two boys used to run? The “plastic shredder” for convenient disposal of political prisoners (if he really didn’t like you, Usay would feed you in feet-first)? What Abu Ghraib was used for before we turned it into a soft-porn production house? Kuwait?

This brings up a problem: in order to maintain order, we need to leave vicious bastards in power. In order to maintain humanity and decency (our own), we need to remove vicious bastards who rape their own people. Which has priority?

I wish I knew the answer; refugees are destroying Europe as we speak, while Russia is probably creating some more (and dispersing the Isis scum who are currently conveniently concentrated in their pitiful excuse of a Caliphate). “Love ye one another” just doesn’t seem to be working in the middle east; what would?

eric
eric
December 6, 2015 11:40 pm

I believe Trump may have to pay a very high price for telling the Truth . I suspect the establishment will try to punish us too for letting them know we no longer believe them We believe Trump . With the kind of money we have let this government create for us . I believe they could cancel the dollar , stop social security , stop all entittlements and bring our country to a standstill in one week . Facing a crisses like that or agreeing to a new world order currancy guaranteed good all over the world would be the establishments alternative . The American people and even Mr Trump might start to see things their way . That’s the power we have allowed them to take from us .