You may not realize it, but it was the discovery of a frozen rhinoceros in Siberia that introduced cycle theory and altered everything in science igniting the Age of Enlightenment. Cycle theory is responsible for just about everything in physics and illustrates why the global warming/climate change crowd is simply pursuing an agenda for government to raise taxes. To a great extent, there has always been this clash between people who simply believe in a straight line (I call them the uniformity crowd) and anyone who deviates, whom they see as somehow at fault and abnormal. Then there are the practical people who see catastrophe as part of nature (e.g. the burning of a forest that sparks new growth, as in Australia).
This clash has often been a heated emotional issue. The idea that systems just collapse in a catastrophic manner can be disquieting to say the least. For this reason, uniformitarianism soothes the senses and brings order to the future dominated by uncertainty.
A new discovery in Siberia of frozen extinct cave lions brings to mind the origin of cycle theory. These two clashing schools of thought lie at the core of just about everything, from the Big Bang to Charles Darwin’s (1809-1882) theory of evolution of change and survival of the fittest (aside from ape to man). This began with a discovery in 1772 near Vilui, Siberia, of an intact frozen woolly Rhinoceros, followed by the more famous discovery of a frozen mammoth in 1787. You may be shocked, but these discoveries of frozen animals with grass still in their stomach set in motion these two schools of thought since the evidence implied you could be eating lunch and suddenly find yourself frozen and only to be discovered by posterity.
George Hoggart Toulmin in his rare 1785 book, “The Eternity of the World“ captured best the sense of the discovery that set cycle theory in motion.
” ••• convulsions and revolutions violent beyond our experience or conception, yet unequal to the destruction of the globe, or the whole of the human species, have both existed and will again exist ••• [terminating] ••• an astonishing succession of ages.”
(Toulmin 1785, 3)
Yet the catastrophists could claim greater influence in the birth of the field of physics. Sir Isaac Newton (1642-1727) developed his laws of gravity and was inspired by his friend Edmund Halley (1656-1742), who underwrote the project, to publish the work. This was the same Halley who discovered the cyclical nature of comets. Halley believed that the comet that carries his name was the same comet reappearing throughout history at regular intervals recorded by contemporary historians of all ages. Halley saw, hidden within history, the same periodic intervals of a comet. Christiaan Huygens (1629-1695) discovered that light traveled, not in a uniform motion as a straight line, but in a cyclical pulsating motion of cyclical waves, albeit at a constant speed. Suddenly, there could be a steady uniformity to the speed of light, yet simultaneously, there was a violent swing of extremes within it taking place in a cyclical manner. This was the same pattern that emerged in the ice core samples. There may appear to be uniformity in the macro world, but cyclical violent swings at the micro level that could erupt catastrophically.
The latest discovery of the frozen cave lion illustrates that climate can change abruptly and has been part of a natural cycle long before man started using combustion engines in the 1920s. Nevertheless, the agenda government pays these academics for is to raise taxes. Now, many states where taxes on energy has declined are moving to tax per mile driven and others are preparing to tax your use of the sun with solar panels since they are replacing power usage. They even want to tax electric cigarettes now. It’s always just about the money. They need excuses to pretend otherwise.
It really is ALWAYS about stealing from the rest of us to those bastards isn’t it? Reminds me of this local yokel land baron I knew about as a kid. He’d been host to a large number of sharecroppers during the 40s and 50s and had a company store at the intersection of the two highways where his tenants could buy groceries on credit until their crops came in for sale at his cotton gin and seed storage facility RIGHT ACROSS the road. Well, when mechanized farming made sharecropping the less profitable, this man suggested that the sharecroppers instead work for him, rent their shacks and then in the off season, go on government assistance.
Once farm subsidies became the official policy of our government, he decided that it was too expensive to keep so many poor black families on his company’s credit line, so he shipped the excess off to either Memphis or St. Louis where they could get good factory jobs and support the workers back home. It was a boon for him and he bought every acre of land he could, trying to maximize the profit he could glean from the subsidy program and the welfare program (because by keeping the families on welfare, they could PAY for the groceries year round!)
At some point you woulda thunk he had enough land and enough money… But, when asked if he didn’t think he had enough land, he would say, “Oh, I don’t want ALL the land. I just want every acre that any of my land touches.”
The bastards in our capitols don’t want ALL the money, they just want every cent that is in someone else’s control.
Once farm subsidies
What do old dead white men know?Diversity is our strength and diversity needs taxation to keep the glaciers from melting and drowning us all , right before we roast alive.. . #stopglobalwarmingdenial
Isn’t even, truly, about taxation.
It’s control.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Climate change schemes will enrich and benefit the same people that convinced us that eradicating American business and jobs was for our greater benefit.
Same people that convinced us of petro-pharmaceuticals were the only way to health.
Time and again we are impoverished and protected by these same people.
History is NOT linear, climate is NOT linear, and the ONLY humans that are linear are our dark overlords that always, somehow, win while the common man loses. Again.
It’s for the children, well, their children, ours pay.
I’ve gone into some of the archives here over the years to see what sort of topics have been covered… and I ask this NOT because I believe any of it, but because even in the wildest fable there is a thread of truth… is what makes it believable to children and village idiots.
My question: Has there ever been any discussion of David Ickes and his theory of Reptilian Overlords?
Oops, it didn’t seem to post the first time. Oh, well, double the fun.
“The latest discovery of the frozen cave lion illustrates that climate can change abruptly …”
————— from the article
No. What it does illustrate is that cavemen back then had internal combustion engines and hairspray.
Krist, I don’t understand why people just can’t connect the dots.
@Stucky… what about the Reptilian Overlords?
Maggie,
Satan is referred in Biblical writings to as “the Old Snake” and other reptilian references.
There’s a larger picture, more to our universe than our senses readily present to us, that can’t be fully disclosed in early writings since people simply wouldn’t understand it.
But at the end of times, it will become clear to those with the desire to know it. Everything told was true, but had to be told in a limited manner that people could understand in relation to their limited experience of the world they live in.
Maggie
If someone can offer even one shred of actual physical evidence — not mere beliefs, empty statements, wild conjecture, crazy theorizing, or out-of-this-world fantasy — then I’ll look into it.
That being said, Obama clearly has reptilian abilities;
I just wondered if the topic and/or David Ickes had ever been discussed on TBP and if so, where to find it… I’d love to see those comments.
“Satan is referred in Biblical writings to as “the Old Snake”” ——– Anonymous
Is Satan also a lion? A frog? A dragon? A fox? A goat? Judas? A bird? A cherub? A star? A leopard? The moon?
These are just SOME of the descriptions of Satan in da Bible.
Maggie
None that I can recall.
Maggie- Our overlords are the .001%, they are the “Bluebloods”. It has been proven that they do indeed have this difference in their blood. Red and green make blue……the mixing of the reptilian and the human? The Bible speaks of the mixing which are the Nephelim, the “Ancient ones from Mesopotamia”.
Chromium is the element that differs in the blood types.(If I remember correctly)
I have a cousin whose husband – a lawyer – decided that by actually watching an Icke video I had totally discredited myself across the board. His response was illuminating.
He is a materialist and cannot be persuaded that “phenomenon” might take place that cannot be explained by what we know.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Materialism
The best trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing everyone that he doesn’t exist.
So while I do not waste my time discussing politics and history with the ants in my back yard I suspect there are critters “out there” that have decided I’m not capable – at this time – of participating in any meaningful dialogue either. Maybe they’re talking to my cousin’s husband instead. ; )
Sudden freezing of the planet would be my preferred ELE as opposed to a explosive event. They say that freezing to death is the most desirable way to go, almost euphoric.
Stucky,
You need to read the Bible before you talk about it.
And I mean actually read it, not take distorted and out of context references presented by others who haven’t either.
You might be find at what you find there.
BEA,
As well as the Nephilim -human hybrids with beings from heavenly dimensions, the “sons of God” or what most would incorrectly call angels- there are the Elioud to consider. They are probably the children of the Nephilim breeding with the genetically true humans and are more genetically corrupted humanity than anything (who were destroyed in the flood, and probably the reason for it).
The Book of Enoch is worth reading for more insight into our early interactions with other dimensional beings and although not considered an inspired work of God since it is written in a fictional style was recommended as meritorious to study by none other than Martin Luther. (there is also some reference to it in the Bible itself)
“Stucky, You need to read the Bible before you talk about it.” ———– Anonymous
I’ve forgotten more about the Bible than you’ve ever learned.
“Blow Me!” — Stuckyviticus 1:1
Anon- The reference in the Bible is of the Seraphim although they are not described as interdimensioal. The Quaran/Koran calls them the Jinn and states they live with humans but are unseen, which sounds interdimensional to me. The Jinn and satan are interchangeable in the Quaran. Satan is a “them” not a “him”.
Reverend Stucky- Anon must has missed your Sunday Sermon and the hundreds of articles written about the bible.
Stucky,
Then how about some scriptural references to support what you say?
Oh, I suppose that is the part you have forgotten.
So try relearning it before you discuss it.
Not that I expect you to.
Dammit… I just like to look at the pictures of the Lizard Critters on Ickes sites.
And Anonyfussy, tell me your name, Legion, or BEGONE.
“Stucky, Then how about some scriptural references to support what you say?” —- Anonymous
1. This isn’t a Bible study website.
2. People generally don’t bother reading Scriptures quoted here …. in fact, I’ll bet not 1 in 30 even will even glance at it.
3. Are you too lazy to look them up yourself?
4. Do you actually DOUBT that those descriptions I’ve listed are in the Bible?? My, oh my! You really don’t know your Bible at all.
Stucky and Maggie
I have roasted some marrow bones to make a pot of bone broth today. Is it Kosher to also put in a beef shank as it has quite a bit of meat on it? Does that disqualify it from bone broth?
BEA, the Seraphim are one notch above the Cherubim from my understanding, one step below God himself.
AFIK no being higher than the Archangels have ever presented themselves as they are to man in a manner that can be physically perceived so it would make sense that the Seraphim would be unseen as such. FWIW, I believe Satan was a Seraphim from the descriptions of his powers and presences in the Bible but I’m not aware of any actual identification of him as such.
Prior to the development of quantum physics there was little in human thought that would explain higher dimensions or interdimensional beings much beyond Plato’s insights in The Allegory of the Cave and that wasn’t his intention for it (and we are interdimensional beings ourselves existing in the fifth dimension and experiencing the lower four dimensions of length, width, height and time -time giving us the illusion of movement and such- as a result. We can perceive those dimensions below ours directly but not the one we are on or those above it). Above and below are not actually correct terms to use but we are able to grasp the concept in thought that way, at right angles with one another might be better -with infinite sub angles between- but that is something that is almost impossible to grasp in our thinking.
There was a political novel called “Flatland: A Romance of Many Dimensions” by Abbot in the latter 19th century that brought the concept of multiple dimensions into popular thought and that I attribute to laying the foundations that have led to current “Multiverse” concepts. It is very definitely worth reading if it can be found, someone told me it has been the conceptual basis for a movie or two as well.
Stucky,
I doubt you and your understanding.
You’ve again avoided the subject of the post I made to you, diversion to something different is the normal tactic of Sophism when one is asked to demonstrate the knowledge he claims to have but doesn’t.
If you don’t want the Bible discussed, then quit discussing it.
I again encourage you to actually study the Bible, within its entirety instead of excerpts taken out of single verses. There is a great deal to be learned from it.
Maggie, I confess this:
Jesus is the Christ come in the flesh.
Do you confess the same?
Didn’t Jesus say to Love your Neighbor as Yourself?
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Anon- You place God in a sticky situation as the Seraphim/Jinn are tricksters. Most descriptions of them sound a lot like the Joos. Would God use these beings to turn up the difficulty level on the game of life?
At least you understand the quantum physics side to the game. God has to keep the Jinn/Genies in the bottle (stuck in another dimension) .
Romans 10:10 You are not my confessor Legion. Begone.
Maggie,
I notice you refuse to confess this, that Jesus is the Christ come in the flesh.
1John 4:3 and every spirit which does not confess Jesus Christ come in flesh is not of God: and this is that power of the antichrist, of which ye have heard that it comes, and now it is already in the world. -Darby
So we have nothing further to discuss.
“Does that disqualify it from bone broth?” ———- Bea
ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!! …… as long as you strain everything out at the end. Broth, by definition, is only liquid.
Maggie
There ya go …… YOU have the spirit of antichrist in you!! You Infidel!!!
And some of you people wonder why I DESPISE these fucknut Bible thumper literalists. They are Christianity’s version of mooslim extremists. Anonymous is fit for only one thing; to be burned in the everlasting fire.
If the moon was as hollow as David Iky’s head, it’s mass would be very small and it’s orbit much closer to the earth to satisfy planetary motion equations. The moon satisfies the earth satellite formula GMT=4##rrr where G= the constant of universal gravitation, M=mass of the moon (7.34767309kg × 10 to the 22 power), T=the period of the moon (29 days), #=3.1416 (pie) since the pie symbol is not on the keyboard, and r=distance to the moon verifiable with radar (238,900 mi). If M was reduced by .001 to about 238.9kg (about a 500 pound satellite) and 4,T,G,# are held constant, then rrr must reduce by the same amount or 0.001 and become rrr=238.9 mi or r=6.2 miles (or 33,000 ft) and that is impossible. If the moon was about 500 pounds with T=29 days, it would orbit at r=68,316 miles (much less than the actual 238,900 miles). If the moon was about 500 lbs and T=1 day, then the orbit would be geostationary r=35,786 kilometres or r=22,236 mi (that is the orbit of most man made satellites). It would be stupid to agree with Iky about a hollow moon.
@Maggie
— “Didn’t Jesus say to Love your Neighbor as Yourself?”
I’m not going to jerk off all my neighbors to the same high standards I offer myself.
Care to clarify your interpretation of that message… taking into account ALL instances of how he treated others?
@rhs jr
— “If the moon was as hollow as David Iky’s head, it’s mass would be very small…”
I’m not going to toss out support for a hollow moon… but your conclusion does not follow your premise.
A hollow lead pipe can easily have more mass than a solid cylinder of wood that is much larger.
In addition, what is the thickness of the shell? If 80% of the radius is solid with a 20% remaining hollow, that still is a hollow structure and leaves plenty of material to provide ample mass… and that’s just dealing with binary forms of hollowness.
The moon is very dense and is nearly solid granite; it sure isn’t light and certainly not hollow.
Razzle, good points so I guess we won’t really know until geologist map the interior.
@razzle… if the photo of the bush offering is buttocks to the neighbor isn’t enough explanation, then I give up…
@Stucky… I KNOW… What the hell? I’m the most nicest religiousest Mom in the neighborhood, well, except for that nice lady I met today that homeschools her kids and doesn’t feed them sugar, so I fibbed and told her I made the cookies with Blackstrap Molasses I bought at the Amish store. Which is true… I just added some Brown Sugar too.
Am I bad?
It was a good read,
“Mammoths were, along with mastodons, the largest members of the elephant family. They have become mummified in two manners, both of which suggest cataclysm and suddenness. In Alaska and Siberia mammoths have been mummified, apparently by the millions, both in ice and in sedimentary strata. It is as if they had been deposited in watery graves in some areas, but encased in ice in other areas, ice which has remained un-melted. Their entombment and refrigeration have been so effective that mammoth carcasses have been thawed to feed sled dogs, both in Alaska and Siberia; in fact, mammoth steaks have even been featured on restaurant menus in Fairbanks.
Every indication is that the mammoths died suddenly, in intense cold, and in great numbers. Death came so quickly that the swallowed vegetation is yet undigested in their stomachs and their mouths. Grasses, bluebells, buttercups, tender sedges, and wild beans have been found, yet identifiable and undeteriorated, in their mouths and stomachs.5 What dropped the mammoths with such suddenness and such unearthly cold?”
http://www.creationism.org/patten/PattenBiblFlood/PattenBiblFlood06.htm
@Maggie
— “if the photo of the bush offering is buttocks to the neighbor isn’t enough explanation, then I give up…”
It wasn’t clear whether your implication was anon wasn’t following what Jesus said… or that you disagree with Jesus.
Rather than make an assumption I desired some clarity.
@rhs jr
/salute
Basically if David Icke’s premise of an alien species interfering with earth *did* turn out to be true, then it would be a pretty good bet any moon information we have in the public sphere has also been fabricated/distorted by that same species rendering any of our interpretations of that data more or less useless.