Didn’t get to watch the debate last night, but Rand must have done well since I can’t find a single mention of him anywhere in any of the MSM articles on it.
The Republican establishment and the MSM have now decided Rubio will be the candidate of choice. The talking heads on all stations now talk about him in reverential tones. Bush is history. They despise Trump. They think Carson is a buffoon.
The illegals came here under false pretense. There are millions of people who want to come here legally. One of my friends was just accepted as a citizen and will soon take the oath; she has been working toward this for years, and never jumped the line, paid her taxes every single year and had to prove it, and has been fully vetted. It was an arduous and difficult process that she complied with willingly because she wants to be an AMERICAN — and now IS.
These “amnesty” plans, and that’s exactly what they are, reward criminality.
Those who wish to reward criminality ought to be branded as criminals and thrown in prison themselves.
That means you, Jeb.
Anonymous
November 11, 2015 8:25 am
What they say is one thing, what they will do another.
For decades we’ve been electing those who tell us what we want to hear only to have them do what we don’t want them to do once they’ve been elected.
The best way to decide if they will be true to their claims in the debates is too examine their past track record and compare it to their current claims.
Trump and Carson sort of have an advantage here though since they have no past record as politicians to examine.
Wip
November 11, 2015 8:51 am
This is what I remember a debate looking like.
Stucky
November 11, 2015 9:02 am
I watched the entire “debate”. It put me in a foul, foul, VERY FOUL mood. Ms Freud went left the room and said if I keep carrying on that she’s going to get a restraining order.
I don’t like making predictions, and I rarely do so. But, here it comes anyway: I feel reasonably certain (75%, at least) that whomever is elected (Dem or Repub), that they WILL lead us into WWIII. Not saying it will be nuclear …. but, once we start shooting down Russian or Chinese planes, or sinking their ships, or killing their people, I wonder how such an escalation can be prevented.
With the exception of Trump and Paul, these motherfuckers are pure evil warmongers …. sold on the preposterous idea that America is THE exceptional nation in the world, and they are committed to fucking up anyone threatening that status, justified or not.
Cuntface Fiorina is the absolute scariest fucker of them all. Won’t talk to Putin at all, wants to put nukes in Poland, in fact, wants to totally surround Russia with NATO forces because she believes that’s the only way Putin will cave in. Her military budget will clearly exceed a trillion dollars.
Rubio isn’t far behind. Another trillion dollar budget, if not much more. Calls Putin a thug who runs a criminal enterprise called Russia. Wants a no-fly zone NOW, meaning, he is willing to shoot down Russian planes. A massively deluded cocksucker who actually believes the world is safer only when America is the strongest force in the world.
Carson is clearly a MIC fucking war-whore.
I gotta stop here. I feel my blood pressure increasing. The police will son be here to take me to the looney bin.
WWIII is almost a sure thing, folks. Prepare accordingly.
TC
November 11, 2015 9:06 am
Stuck – the thing I find difficult to square with Trump is that he says we can’t be the world’s policeman, but then he says we’re going to increase support of Israel by 1000%. So which is it?
Anonymous
November 11, 2015 9:10 am
TC
Supporting someone defending themselves is not the same as fighting in their place.
On stage inside the debate hall, Mr. Trump stuck to his guns and said that immigration laws passed by both Democrats and Republicans in Congress and approved by presidents from both parties should simply be enforced. That is all he is saying.
Yet Mr. Bush not only thinks these laws should be summarily dismissed, he said during the debate that even having a discussion about enforcing our immigration laws is a terrible thing. We should dismiss these laws and there should not even be a debate about it.
“They’re doing high-fives in the Clinton campaign right now when they hear this,” Mr. Bush said.
Wow. Truly astonishing. Not only does Mr. Bush not belong in the White House or the Republican Party, he should just be deported. Perhaps to Mexico, where he might be happier and find greater success in politics.
Astonishingly, Mr. Bush was not alone on the Republican stage. “Think about the families!” cried Ohio Gov. John Kasich. “C’mon, folks!”
These people really have no clue how desperately frustrated and estranged American voters in both parties are over this issue of rampant illegal immigration and Washington’s absolute refusal to take simple, common sense measures to fix the problem.
John Kasich should be deported right behind Jeb Bush.
Luckily, the remaining serious contenders on the stage — and even the less-serious contenders on the earlier debate stage — do not share Mr. Bush’s and Mr. Kasich’s reckless and lawless plot to eviscerate American sovereignty by granting amnesty to millions of illegals in America.
“If Republicans join Democrats as the party of amnesty, we will lose,” Sen. Ted Cruz countered during the debate. “It is not compassionate to say we’re not going to enforce the laws, and we’re going to drive down the wages for millions of hardworking men and women.”
Maybe think about THOSE families.
Stucky
November 11, 2015 9:48 am
TC
Just to be clear, my comments about Trump in no way is an endorsement. Trump scares me.
But, if I were a single issue voter about war, my only reasonable choice would be Rand or Trump.
As to your question, Trump is no dummy. It’s political suicide to talk nasty about da Joos. Plus, didn’t his daughter marry a Joo? Trump will continue the fine tradition of sucking Israel-dick forever.
Also, while he wouldn’t go to war in the ME, he said we should “just take their oil”. WTF?? Please don’t ask me to figure out The Donald.
susanna
November 11, 2015 10:04 am
well, it isn’t Rubio.
overthecliff
November 11, 2015 10:12 am
Conservative? It ain”t Rubio, he is a Bush ringer. Trump and Carson are reality show characters. PTB own Trump, does anyone think they can” take his 10 billion dollars?
Maybe Cruz.
overthecliff
November 11, 2015 10:16 am
Rand Paul is way to principled and honest to be POTUS.
Gayle
November 11, 2015 11:55 am
I come away from every debate wondering how these people so insanely justify the Department of Offense. It seems the only way to be “safe” is to interfere in countries which might have some self-interests that diverge from those of the arrogant and exceptional USA. Should you express any misgivings about this policy, like Rand you are immediately castigated as a dreaded “isolationist.”
This was the first debate where Rand seemed to get a little traction.
Administrator
Author
November 11, 2015 2:06 pm
Westcoaster
November 11, 2015 4:14 pm
This all goes back to 9/11 and the fake “war on terror”. Unless and until we get to the bottom of who did what on that day we will continue the charade and accomplish nothing.
Didn’t get to watch the debate last night, but Rand must have done well since I can’t find a single mention of him anywhere in any of the MSM articles on it.
All of Rand Paul’s reasonable, well thought out, responses.
Look under a rock and you will find Rubio.
The Republican establishment and the MSM have now decided Rubio will be the candidate of choice. The talking heads on all stations now talk about him in reverential tones. Bush is history. They despise Trump. They think Carson is a buffoon.
by Karl Denninger
Heh Jeb! You’re Full Of Crap
Look, jackass.
The illegals came here under false pretense. There are millions of people who want to come here legally. One of my friends was just accepted as a citizen and will soon take the oath; she has been working toward this for years, and never jumped the line, paid her taxes every single year and had to prove it, and has been fully vetted. It was an arduous and difficult process that she complied with willingly because she wants to be an AMERICAN — and now IS.
These “amnesty” plans, and that’s exactly what they are, reward criminality.
Those who wish to reward criminality ought to be branded as criminals and thrown in prison themselves.
That means you, Jeb.
What they say is one thing, what they will do another.
For decades we’ve been electing those who tell us what we want to hear only to have them do what we don’t want them to do once they’ve been elected.
The best way to decide if they will be true to their claims in the debates is too examine their past track record and compare it to their current claims.
Trump and Carson sort of have an advantage here though since they have no past record as politicians to examine.
This is what I remember a debate looking like.
I watched the entire “debate”. It put me in a foul, foul, VERY FOUL mood. Ms Freud went left the room and said if I keep carrying on that she’s going to get a restraining order.
I don’t like making predictions, and I rarely do so. But, here it comes anyway: I feel reasonably certain (75%, at least) that whomever is elected (Dem or Repub), that they WILL lead us into WWIII. Not saying it will be nuclear …. but, once we start shooting down Russian or Chinese planes, or sinking their ships, or killing their people, I wonder how such an escalation can be prevented.
With the exception of Trump and Paul, these motherfuckers are pure evil warmongers …. sold on the preposterous idea that America is THE exceptional nation in the world, and they are committed to fucking up anyone threatening that status, justified or not.
Cuntface Fiorina is the absolute scariest fucker of them all. Won’t talk to Putin at all, wants to put nukes in Poland, in fact, wants to totally surround Russia with NATO forces because she believes that’s the only way Putin will cave in. Her military budget will clearly exceed a trillion dollars.
Rubio isn’t far behind. Another trillion dollar budget, if not much more. Calls Putin a thug who runs a criminal enterprise called Russia. Wants a no-fly zone NOW, meaning, he is willing to shoot down Russian planes. A massively deluded cocksucker who actually believes the world is safer only when America is the strongest force in the world.
Carson is clearly a MIC fucking war-whore.
I gotta stop here. I feel my blood pressure increasing. The police will son be here to take me to the looney bin.
WWIII is almost a sure thing, folks. Prepare accordingly.
Stuck – the thing I find difficult to square with Trump is that he says we can’t be the world’s policeman, but then he says we’re going to increase support of Israel by 1000%. So which is it?
TC
Supporting someone defending themselves is not the same as fighting in their place.
Rubio sucks.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/11/charles-hurt-jeb-bush-john-kasich-pandering-illega/
On stage inside the debate hall, Mr. Trump stuck to his guns and said that immigration laws passed by both Democrats and Republicans in Congress and approved by presidents from both parties should simply be enforced. That is all he is saying.
Yet Mr. Bush not only thinks these laws should be summarily dismissed, he said during the debate that even having a discussion about enforcing our immigration laws is a terrible thing. We should dismiss these laws and there should not even be a debate about it.
“They’re doing high-fives in the Clinton campaign right now when they hear this,” Mr. Bush said.
Wow. Truly astonishing. Not only does Mr. Bush not belong in the White House or the Republican Party, he should just be deported. Perhaps to Mexico, where he might be happier and find greater success in politics.
Astonishingly, Mr. Bush was not alone on the Republican stage. “Think about the families!” cried Ohio Gov. John Kasich. “C’mon, folks!”
These people really have no clue how desperately frustrated and estranged American voters in both parties are over this issue of rampant illegal immigration and Washington’s absolute refusal to take simple, common sense measures to fix the problem.
John Kasich should be deported right behind Jeb Bush.
Luckily, the remaining serious contenders on the stage — and even the less-serious contenders on the earlier debate stage — do not share Mr. Bush’s and Mr. Kasich’s reckless and lawless plot to eviscerate American sovereignty by granting amnesty to millions of illegals in America.
“If Republicans join Democrats as the party of amnesty, we will lose,” Sen. Ted Cruz countered during the debate. “It is not compassionate to say we’re not going to enforce the laws, and we’re going to drive down the wages for millions of hardworking men and women.”
Maybe think about THOSE families.
TC
Just to be clear, my comments about Trump in no way is an endorsement. Trump scares me.
But, if I were a single issue voter about war, my only reasonable choice would be Rand or Trump.
As to your question, Trump is no dummy. It’s political suicide to talk nasty about da Joos. Plus, didn’t his daughter marry a Joo? Trump will continue the fine tradition of sucking Israel-dick forever.
Also, while he wouldn’t go to war in the ME, he said we should “just take their oil”. WTF?? Please don’t ask me to figure out The Donald.
well, it isn’t Rubio.
Conservative? It ain”t Rubio, he is a Bush ringer. Trump and Carson are reality show characters. PTB own Trump, does anyone think they can” take his 10 billion dollars?
Maybe Cruz.
Rand Paul is way to principled and honest to be POTUS.
I come away from every debate wondering how these people so insanely justify the Department of Offense. It seems the only way to be “safe” is to interfere in countries which might have some self-interests that diverge from those of the arrogant and exceptional USA. Should you express any misgivings about this policy, like Rand you are immediately castigated as a dreaded “isolationist.”
This was the first debate where Rand seemed to get a little traction.
This all goes back to 9/11 and the fake “war on terror”. Unless and until we get to the bottom of who did what on that day we will continue the charade and accomplish nothing.
Only the dead have seen the end of war.