Don’t Buy New

Guest Post by Eric Peters

Whatever you do, don’t buy new. It no longer makes sense – and can be very bad for your wallet. I advise this as an automotive journalist, a guy who writes about new cars for a living. This is probably not a good idea. I am not supposed to advise people against buying the new cars I write about. But I do – and here’s why:buying lead

In the first place, new cars have become disproportionately expensive.

Meaning, relative to what most people – most families – earn. Last year, the average price paid for a new car (this is called the “transaction price” within the industry) was in excess of $30,000. A record high. But the average family income in the United States is only in the neighborhood of $54,000 – and has not increased significantly in more than a decade.

The purchase of a $30,000 car is disproportionate relative to the average family’s ability to pay for it. This is why the length of the average new car loan has been extended to six years – and is headed toward seven (and then probably eight). Stringing out the payments over a longer period makes the car seem more affordable, but it’s not. You are still paying an amount that’s disproportionate relative to income.

This problem is particularly acute with certain types of vehicles – full-size trucks, for example. It is very difficult to find a new one that costs less than $30k. For example, a base trim 2016 Chevy Silverado 1500 regular cab with a short bed stickers for $26,655. But most people who need a full-size truck need a full-size bed and four-wheel-drive. Without them, a truck is fairly useless for the things people generally want and use trucks for. But those two items push the MSRP of a truck like the new Silverado to well over $30k. There is no longer any such thing as an affordable (given average family income) full-size pick-up.transaction price images

Not that’s new, at any rate.

One should also factor into the cost equation such things as property taxes and insurance, both of which will almost always be higher if the car is new. The property tax – in areas that are so afflicted – is based on the current retail value of the vehicle, as described in trade publications such as the National Auto Dealer Association (NADA) “blue book.” The newer the car, the more you’ll pay – and in some areas, you’ll pay a staggering amount over the first five or so years it takes for a new vehicle’s value to depreciate to a reasonable level.

People sometimes forget to budget for this – and end up losing the vehicle because they could not afford to make the payments on it and pay the taxes on it.new car costs graphic

For the same reason, be sure you can afford the insurance as well as the payment. You should factor in a possible raise in rates, too. All it takes in many cases is a single speeding ticket to incur significant surcharges. Two tickets and it’s a near-certainty. What are the odds you’ll get at least one ticket over say the next five or six years? Could you afford to pay say 20 percent more than your current premium? If not, think twice about buying the vehicle or you could find yourself in a financially desperate situation.

If you can’t afford the insurance, the vehicle becomes useless because you can no longer legally drive it.

But the real financial peril that comes with the keys to almost any new car is the likely – the almost certain – repair costs you’ll be dealing with a few years from now. The technology being fitted to new cars – LCD touchscreens, “drive by wire” controls, a litany of “active” safety features such as automatic braking/steering assist – is forbiddingly complicated and it’s an engineering maxim that the more complex a given system is, the greater the odds of a failure vs. a simpler system.tech pic

Just a week or so ago, I was out test-driving the new BMW 7 (review here). This was not only a new car, it was a press car – a car loaned out to journalists like me to drive around for a week and then review. It’s safe to assume it was thoroughly gone over by BMW’s people prior to being loaned out, to make sure everything was working properly. And it was … for the first two days I had it. On the third day, a chime warbled out from somewhere deep in the BMW’s padded leather dashboard and a “systems down” advisory flashed on the gorgeous liquid crystal display touchscreen – informing me that four of the BMW’s “active driver assist” functions were on the fritz.

The car was still perfectly drivable; the affected systems were purely electronic “safety” systems such as the lane departure warning, or brake assist or the adaptive cruise control or the collision avoidance system. And the cost of the fix would be covered under warranty, if this were my car. But what happens when the warranty runs out? As I wrote in my review of the BMW, it’s a magnificent car that I’d be very reluctant to buy – for exactly this reason.

And it’s not just high-end BMWs that are over-teched and likely to hit you with expensive, computer-related conniptions at some point post-warranty. Almost every new car now has the LCD touchscreen, drive-by-wire throttle and the profusion of electronic “safety” (nanny, if you ask me) technology is as abundant on the lower end as on the higher end.tech pic 2

Which brings me to What to Do.

Lease.

Do not buy.

Leasing used to be the bad deal, because you had a payment in perpetuity and never owned anything. But, consider: When you buy a new car nowadays, the payments are also effectively in perpetuity. Six years, soon seven. Probably eight. And by the time you pay it off, it’s going to begin to cost you money in other ways. Probably, it will do so before then – given that most new car comprehensive warranties will cut out before you’ve paid the the car off. And keep in mind the depressing truth that even after you’ve paid the car off, you still won’t really own it. Because you will still be making payments on it – forever – in the form of property tax payments to the government.

In a very real sense, you are renting even though you thought you were buying.

Why not make it official?Lease vs Buy Concept

With a lease, you will still have a payment every month, but it’ll be lower than it would be if you bought the car. And you’ll never have to pay for major repairs as these will be covered by the warranty – which will last for the duration of the lease. Property taxes will be the obligation of the lease company.

It’s a much better deal all around.

This form of getting into new cars is likely to become prevalent and even dominant for all of the reasons described above. The cost of cars – especially those that aren’t small cars –  is going to continue to rocket upward while it’s unlikely the average family’s income will rocket upward in tandem. Taxes rarely decrease – and as new cars become more expensive to repair/replace following accidents due to the cost of replacing multiple air bags and so on – the cost to insure them will inevitably track higher, too.

And, let’s face it. Cars have become disposable appliances. Even the interesting ones. Their complexity makes it very unlikely they’ll be economically viable to keep after 15 or 20 years. Who is going to spend $4,000 to replace the automated manual transmission in a car that’s only worth $5,000 by then?

It’s not like it once was, when a paid-off car could be kept on the road almost indefinitely by a competent backyard mechanic. Now you need an $80/hour “technician” and an array of diagnostic equipment beyond the means (and know-how) of most non-engineers.

Better to cut bait – and rent rather than buy.

Hopefully, GM, Ford and the rest aren’t reading this….

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Chicago999444
Chicago999444
March 9, 2016 7:17 am

Agree. We never owned a new car in my family. Mom would buy a 4-year-old Olds 88 and drive it till it dropped, which was usually 9 or 10 years later. The things lose 40% of their value the minute they leave the showroom.

It is also more “ecological” to buy an older car that uses more fuel than it is to buy something new because it gets better gas mileage, unless there is a really steep difference in the mileage and you drive 70 miles a day, which most people don’t even now. Something like 90% of the energy a car uses in its lifetime was consumed before it made it to the showroom. So, it may make sense to swap your old 6000 lb SUV that gets 12 miles a gallon for a Prius that gets 45, especially if you drive a great deal, but it makes no sense for someone with short commutes, or no commute at all, to swap a perfectly beautiful 10 year old Hyandai 300 that gets 28 mpg, say, for a new Prius that cost nearly $40,000.

I buy used things as much as possible, especially furniture and clothes. I could not afford a dining room set of the quality of the one I found on Craigs List for $500, if I bought it new- it would be over $6000. Very few people can afford to buy high quality furniture new. The only things I buy new are computers, and personal clothing like shoes and underwear. Upholstered furniture like sofas and mattresses should also be new unless you really know and trust the seller.

Hollow man
Hollow man
March 9, 2016 7:31 am

Well somebody has to pay for the union wages and benefits. But it doesn’t have to be me or you. They have priced themselves out of the market.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
March 9, 2016 7:48 am

My dear pappy warned me to never buy a new car. I would add that you should never finance a car either. Figure out what it would cost to finance the car of your choice then pay yourself that money each month until you can pay cash. Suck it up and drive a hoopty until then.

My 86 4Runner still won’t die despite the abuse I heap upon it. Paid $1500 for in it 1999. Paid myself $600 each month since then as the car payment I never had to pay. Never had a break down with it. I do 99% of the maintenance and repairs. It will go anywhere in any weather but it’s got 330,000 miles on it and it’s getting tired. I just put $686 worth of new tires on it so now it’s worth at least $686! What should I replace it with?

TC
TC
March 9, 2016 8:16 am

This article has some good advice and some bad. Lease a vehicle? That’s fucking dumb unless you’re writing it off for your business. Financing a car? That’s also dumb. Yes, even when the financing rate is 0% for 5 years since you’re usually sacrificing the $1-2k rebate to get the 0% financing. Ultimately, the best thing is to pay cash on a good used car from a private seller.

ragman
ragman
March 9, 2016 8:52 am

I’ve had horrible luck with used cars in south FL. Everyone, including dealers, runs back the odometer. Maybe IF you can find a low mileage car/truck in excellent condition with a year or two of factory warranty left it might make sense. We bought a new F250 diesel just over 4 yrs ago.. Got a great deal and paid it off last year. I have faithfully followed the maintenance schedule. I intend to keep it until I can’t drive anymore. I think I made the correct decision based on my particular circumstances.

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 9, 2016 9:08 am

Always wondered who ended up with the radiation cars from Fukishima .Russia banned them.Figured Obama let them in the US to go with his hate US people track record

harry p.
harry p.
March 9, 2016 9:09 am

TC,
peters is mostly playing devil’s advocate but the general point he is making is very sound. it may not be applicable today but as the guvthugs add more and more requirements it is pushing his concept to become truth sometime in the future.

i predominantly buy used and keep them running but as they become more and more complicated with stupid safety do-dads there are issues that arise even for someone mechanically inclined.
i have a 94 camry that is the perfect beater, only 1 of 4 windows works, AC is busted (but heater works like a champ) and the engine, tranny are strong.
If there is a safety malfunction (airbags, ABS) I would be required to fix it or it won’t pass inspection. at that point even though the engine, trans, elect system etc are good i would likely have to scrap it and find some replacement to fill its void which would be a fairly major cost.

as more and more cars have an ever increasing # of these shitty gadgets and complexity the car starts to have issues. sure you can buy a 3 yo used car for a lot less than new but if the life expectancy goes down and/or maintenance costs around the 6-10 year mark shoot up compared to 3yo cars today (and they will with the stupid required add-ons like rear cameras, auto-braking) because there is no warranty anymore the car will become a liability earlier than previous generations. also all the stupid touchscreens operating the HVAC controls instead of simple robust tactile knobs will cost thousands to replace.
at some point it will likely make financial sense to simply rent the car while there is a warranty (ie lease). as the govt and manufacturers push legislation to make it illegal to modify/customize your car (SEMA is fighting this battle now) or limit the work you can do yourself (the one that revolves around them owning the software in your car even after you buy it) cars are becoming more and more akin to refrigerators with wheels, nothing more.

Dutchman
Dutchman
March 9, 2016 9:33 am

Like my Volvo 2008 XC-90. Bought it – but you have to buy the factory extended warranty – other wise you’ll be raped for any repairs.

The radio / cd player went out. The problem was in the digital display, which had a small circuit board attached – the repair cost was $600. Glad for the extended warranty.

It’s nuts, just nuts.

efarmer
efarmer
March 9, 2016 9:43 am

Admin,

Perhaps the reason some people have such small savings is the stupid payments they are making on cars they can’t afford? And everything else they buy on credit. I find it absolutely stunning that people will buy a $15 item with 3 easy payments. And they do.

My brides ex-boyfriend is a finance guy at a Toyota dealership. He makes over $200,000 per year, has no savings and a negative net worth because of his insane, compulsive spending habits. I struggle to figure out how to blow that much money with nothing to show for it, but he does.

EF

Stucky
Stucky
March 9, 2016 9:56 am

My best deal ever? A silver 1985 Mercedes 300 Turbo Diesel (it was about 15 years old at the time) … for under $3k ………. I put about 150,000 miles on it …….. and I swear on my son’s life, I basically only put oil in it ….. LOTS of oil, lol.

Haven’t paid more than $5k for a car in the past 20 years. The only lemon I ever bought was a Cadillac Brougham. Got it cheap (just under $5k) from an OLD retired pastor, and it only had some 30k miles. That fucken car WENT TO SHIT at about 100k miles. Cadillac eat shit.

Some people here in the past have requested to buy specific cheap cars …. and I found several for them to choose from.

The point is … be like Admin. You really NEVER EVER need to buy a brand new car. There are some truly GREAT deals out there. All it takes is a little planning and some effort.

One bit of free advice. The WORST time to buy a car is when you REALLY NEED it!! You will wind up “settling”. If at all possible, give yourself at least 3 or 4 months to find your Sweet Deal.

bb
bb
March 9, 2016 10:02 am

I bought my Toyota Tacoma brand new in 1998 for a little over 15000 with taxes. I have put 454000+miles on the engine. That’s right ,454000 + miles.I have done just general maintenance on it.Change oilevery 3 to 4 thousand miles and it keeps going. I have had it painted and the interior restored several times. Best car/ truck I have ever had. Will keep it the rest of my life.The guys at the Toyota dealership have told me I might be able to 700 to 800,000 miles on the engine if I keep talking care of it.I will.That truck is now part of the family. Kinda like little bb.

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 9, 2016 10:05 am

Other Anon,

I’d be more concerned with imported low mileage major parts from dissembling and selling them -such as engines, transmissions, the highly expensive repair parts- than the cars themselves.

The Car history can be traced easily enough, the part history is a different story.

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 9, 2016 10:12 am

Stucky.

The Mercedes Diesel’s are one of the most undervalued used vehicles on the market, they can easily hit a million miles with nothing other than routine maintenance and normal repairs if you take reasonable care of them.

My experience with them is that the highway mileage is really great, the in town mileage good but not exceptional if you’re the average driver.

starfcker
starfcker
March 9, 2016 1:18 pm

No matter what you buy, if you want engines to last, use synthetic oil. I run trucks that have super high mileage sometimes, and rarely bother to change the oil. The stuff doesn’t break down like regular oil. When I get new vehicles, I notice where the temp gauge sits, as soon as you put in the synthetic, the temperature goes down noticeably. I use Mobil 1, never had an engine issue ever, been using it for probably 25 years.

Aquapura
Aquapura
March 9, 2016 1:30 pm

Mobil 1 from day 1. Modern engines can go for a long long looong time.

Electronic doo-dads are a different matter.

ASIG
ASIG
March 9, 2016 2:55 pm

Only buy the car you can afford to pay cash for.

If you can’t afford to pay cash you have no business buying a new car.

Most of the cars I’ve bought over the years have been new but I pay cash.

Anyone that buys a new luxury car and pays payments is an idiot.

TC
TC
March 9, 2016 3:21 pm

@bb – I bought a low mile used Tacoma… drove it for 5 years and 80k miles and sold it for about $400 less than I paid for it. Did put a set of tires and shocks on it during that time, not to mention oil changes, but otherwise spent no money on it. Can’t go wrong with a Taco…

rhs jr
rhs jr
March 9, 2016 4:16 pm

Drove my 1999 Tacoma to the dealer Nov2015 and said I want one just like it only new. He said “So do I”. I looked at the new stuff and kept the Tacoma; the Great Great Grand Kids will be driving it.

BiggyTmofo
BiggyTmofo
March 10, 2016 1:18 am

Very interesting points. I agree that buying a new car is the most stupid financial decision one can make. Buying a quality used car is the best financial move. Drive till you’re sick of it and then sell it. Unfortunately I live in north east Ohio and cars do rust so 20 year old cars don’t look too good. Now in other parts of the country this is not an issue. Pennsylvania’s vehicle inspection policy keeps junk off the roads so when there is a good place to look for cars there. I am not sure about the author’s recommendation to lease cars as this seemed like a perpetual payment trap that is difficult to escape. Not to mention you get killed on mileage and scrapes. Again I am not your financial adviser here so I will keep those points to a minimum as other posters have pointed out the cash and drive method is best method to drive. Agree with Chicago999444 that Craigslist and eBay are great places to buy furniture and also estate sales. Don’t finance that shit!!! I hate buying new except for needed stuff and only buy returned tools. Future dead retailer Sears was good for that because why pay $450 for a lawn mower when a nearly returned model sells for $150. Good points raised as don’t waste money buying retail junk.