Guest Post by Paul Craig Roberts
Alex Jones catches a lot of grief. Some of it he brings on himself by being over the top, but most of the criticism he receives comes from his practice of dragging into the news issues that otherwise would remained cloaked in silence.
Alex is certainly correct to stress that elements in the CIA, or someone claiming to be CIA, are planting stories in the media that Russia hacked Hillary’s emails and used the damning information to elect Trump.
The truth of the emails is not what is in question. It is their alleged Russian origin. There is no evidence for this claim. Wikileaks said the emails came to them as a leak from inside, not from an outside hack, and former top NSA official William Binney has said that if Russia was the source the NSA would have conclusive proof. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/46012.htm
What is striking about this controversy is that it is the CIA, not Russia, that is interfering in American elections. The CIA is supposed to be concerned with foreign intelligence. It is not supposed to interfere in US affairs. Yet it is the CIA that is using fake news to delegitimize a president-elect. One member of this operation, Bob Baer, has called for a new election on the basis of the claim that Trump was elected by Russian interference. https://www.intellihub.com/there-is-a-plan-to-steal-the-election-from-the-american-people-and-trump-cia-pushes-for-new-election/
The FBI does not support the claim of Russian interference. http://dailycallernewsfoundation.org/2016/12/11/fbi-disagrees-with-cia-on-russian-influence-in-the-presidential-election/
The importance of this issue is that it is rogue elements inside the CIA who are trying to prevent Trump from becoming president.
The important question is: Why?
If neoconservative or military-security oligarchs are willing to so publicly in violation of law operate against an incoming president who could have them indicted and put on trial for high treason, wouldn’t these rogue operators also be willing to assassinate the president-elect?
The ruling oligarchy does not want any changes in policy toward Russia or the offshoring of US jobs. Clearly, they are willing to operate against a president-elect. Are they willing to go further?
The presstitute media by hyping these groundless charges are setting up Trump for assassination.
The CIA killed JFK, so why is it such a reach to believe the CIA could be interfering with the US Presidential election. The spooks figure they will have less cleaning up to do if they can void the election before Trump even takes office. If Trump actually becomes President, these “patriots” will need to go to the trouble to plan a motorcade through Dallas.
But don’t listen to me, I wear a tin-foil hat.
Another perspective on the JKF assasination. Yes, the CIA was involved but at the direction of the Vatican. An interview with Eric J. Phelps, author of Vatican Assassins:
@ ditchner
I call bullshit on your promotion of Phelps.
http://www.conspiracyworld.com/phelps_zionist_promoter.htm
Google Eric Jon Phelps. The man is a fraud.
And I , in reply @ dirtscratcher, call BS on your single page marginalization of Phelps. It was nothing more than an attempt to kill the messenger.
I have read Phelp’s original edition of Vatican Assassins and am currently going through the 1600 pages of the 3rd edition with reams of historical documents he has laboriously researched and strung together mostly for the edification of the people of the USA, particularly those who consider themselves Protestants. Your reliance on a single webpage from a dubious source (and confused author who thinks the anti-christ is of the jews) with html from another era seems similar to the types of slander leveled against a certain recent presidential candidate.
If you want to refute the nefarious roles that the Vatican and their Society of Jesus has played for centuries then fine, but otherwise what value is there in slandering a man who has devoted much of his life to bring us a historical perspective that (un)remarkably none of us ever learned about in grade school or college. (Unremarkably because most of what we were taught were lies or half-truths.)
A book like Vatican Assassins is the proverbial red pill. If you can’t handle it, that’s too bad, but you must realize that when somebody puts their life on the line against the most powerful institution the world has ever seen there might be a few negative links showing up on a (Don’t Be Evil) Google search.
The first 93 pages of Vatican Assassins which precede the table of contents consists mostly of historical quotes from prominent men who had experienced the Jesuits first hand. Here is just one of them:
“The Jesuits direct all the affairs, and shape all the principles of the papal church in the United States. These are startling facts. Though we have long known the we are shocked at the contemplation of those approaching evils, which this new proof brings so clearly before our minds. Yes, we repeat it; the nation cannot avoid the most dreadful calamities from this fatal and corrupt society, unless prompt and vigorous measures can be taken to deliver it from the impending curse.
The Society of Jesus is the enemy of man. The whole human race should unite for its overthrow. Earth and heaven should rejoice together over its tomb. For there is no alternative between its total extirpation, and the absolute corruption and degradation of mankind.”
Robert J. Breckinridge, 1841
American Presbyterian Pastor
Papism in the XIX. Century, in the United States
Why would somebody put together a compilation like this if they were not committed to it? It’s certainly not for commercial gain.
The only thing that surprises me is that this isn’t obvious to everyone. It’s the main reason the choice of Pence as VP is so scary. He’s another George W Bush, in my opinion. One bullet in Trump and we’ll have no fly zones everywhere and the public will be distracted by bathrooms for trannies.
Yeah, this is not good. The best part about Trump getting elected as far as I am concerned is that I thought it would stop all the banging on the war drums for the much wanted by TPTB for a war with Russia. Looks like they are not giving up easily, nor should we expect that they would. Interesting times ahead.
Despite the fact that there isn’t one shred of evidence that Russia was behind the DNC and Podesta leaked e-mails, the whining, tantrums and threats continue from the LOSERS. They simply can not accept the staggering reality of their defeat, and now want us to believe that the election was illegitimate because Trump conspired with the Russians against Hillary.
P.C. Roberts is correct that it is the CIA that is interfering to affect the election process, but I recall one other anti-American asshole who openly encouraged illegal citizens to break our laws once again and to vote in our election. Now, who was interfering with the election?
who and what are CIA? It seems that it can be anyone
suggested/recruited by the “managers” of the CIA.
This is an organization shrouded in secrecy and rumors.
Also a blank canvas that can be painted any time to
project what it wants to project. Good CIA and bad CIA.
“Bad” trades in drugs and uses criminals to work out nefarious
schemes. “Good” works against bad to protect the positive
people in power. Does this sound absurd yet?
My guess is that the CIA has plenty of cash accumulated and hidden so they can continue operating without congressional funding or presidential authority. They are the deep state.
TPTB didn’t build those bunkers like Cheyenne Mountain for nothing. Nuclear war is in the cards. Be ready.
I think they’re going to bunker it out in Antarctica. Thanks, all you stupid Americans that let the TPTB buy all those munitions and safe hideouts with FIAT paper currency created out of thin air.
Specifically who within the CIA is making these Russian hacking claims?
They won’t say, which kinda makes me suspicious.
And why would the Russians want to screw up a chance at getting to roll Hillary — who has been proven to be easily bought off and manipulated by them previously — like a wino with the severe DTs for the next four years?
So, I’m not buying that either…my guess is that this was an inside job and the whole “CIA says Ivan did it!” is a false flag of chaos (and coverup).
And that makes me think there’s more out there that bathroom server gal and her merry band of miscreants (with GOP fellow travelers) desperately want to head off at the pass. So “fake news…that Ivan does!”.
Of course, if they can get some benefit from it as well, they’ll do it.
Meh. There’s one sentence in this article, or any other article on this subject, that is most important. Please try and focus. Here it is.
“The truth of the emails is not what is in question.”
Got that? Regardless of who did what to whom, the fucking emails are GENUINE. That’s what’s important. You, John and Jane Q. Public, are reading what these low-life motherfuckers like John Podesta, Donna Brazille, and the rest of the DNC think and have been doing for years to control you and gain power in any way they can.
Who gives a fuck who hacked the goddamned computers? I certainly don’t and give them a hat tip.
These people behind this attempt are traitors and should be dealt with on 1/21/17.
CIA is a proven joke, but maybe there is more to this spectacle than meets the eye. The whole sordid show could be on display in order to buttress Trump in the coming negotiations with the Russians. It’s not a secret anymore that he likes Russia, and in a world of diplomacy such a confession is seen as a gaffe if not weakness, particularly when dealing with the tough interlocutor. Now that he is actually a POTUS, a storm of fake Russophobia is being whipped up in order to cut down Moscow’s expectations, as well as establish some wiggle room for the US side.
Please remember that this country is ruled by lawyers. They learn the basics of negotiations in their schools before anything else. All of their superficial emotions and body language are there to conceal their true intentions, not to reveal them.
“It’s not a secret anymore that he (Trump) likes Russia, and in a world of diplomacy such a confession is seen as a gaffe if not weakness”
—-FaF
Wrong on both counts, moosebreath. Trump signaled a respect for Putin, and that’s NOT a gaffe or sign of weakness. It’s a sign he is willing to hit a true reset button with a true nuclear global power instead of calling Putin a predatory, murderous dictator and worse. Putin ate Obama and Clinton and Kerry for lunch. He made an absolute fool of all three and showed them to be the hapless and helpless critics they were.
I have no idea how Trump’s approach to Russia will work out, but it certainly can’t get any worse than what’s happened over the past 8 years. He’s at least starting out with a sign of respect for the popular Russian authoritarian.
Trump appears to consider Russia at most an ideological threat, not a civilizational one. At least it appears this way.
In this I believe, if he does indeed think this way, he is correct.
I don’t trust Ivan, and I certainly don’t believe in the BFF notion of foreign policy. But Ivan’s not our biggest problem right now and could be useful to cultivate better relationships with in the near future. Especially when we hold more cards than people think.
FUCK THE CIA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t9lsSFE5m0
That’s out National Security apparatus in a nutshell. Of course it only costs about a trillion dollars more, but it’s only money, right?
They tell us that the Russians have ‘hacked’ our election process, but they can’t do anything to prevent it. I saw that Podesta sent out his first post-election loss tweet (no word on if he ordered cheese pizza for his map related handkerchief to go with dominoes, wink-wink, nudge-nudge) and darn if he isn’t concerned about the same thing.
Huh.
This is quite a propaganda operation to observe. Fool me once…
It occurred to me a couple of days ago as I was thinking about some of Trump’s unforseen (by me) military cabinet appointments, that perhaps there is a soft coup awaiting us.
I’ve seen surveys that report the US military is the most trusted branch of government.
Today, there was all this new reporting about breakaway CIA operatives ‘leaking’ information that Trump operates in collusion with the Russians. (laughable but being promoted anyway)
The CIA/NSA/etc. are not part of the Department of Defense. I do know for a fact that the DOD will NOT accept a Department of State backround check for a top secret security clearance for their own DOD security clearances. If one moves between agencies the whole arduous process must be undergone again.
So Trump is surrounding himself with some fairly fierce military leadership while he’s also being denigrated by the CIA.
Between the military and the CIA, who has the most troops and the biggest guns, and packs the more powerful wallop? The answer speaks for itself.
I’m watching this very carefully.
If, IF Putin helped in the defeat of the war monger Clinton, and thus backed the world away from nuclear war, than the man is owed a big debt of gratitude.
Trapped in Portlandia says:
December 12, 2016 at 2:35 pm
The CIA killed JFK, so why is it such a reach to believe the CIA could be interfering with the US Presidential election. The spooks figure they will have less cleaning up to do if they can void the election before Trump even takes office. If Trump actually becomes President, these “patriots” will need to go to the trouble to plan a motorcade through Dallas.
But don’t listen to me, I wear a tin-foil hat.
__________________________
Yes of course the CIA was a participant, but the common denominator to these two controversies, decades apart, is Israel. For JFK it was his complete opposition to Israel having nukes. For Trump, it is his easing of tensions with Moscow. Russia is the last hope for those countries who seek political independence from the US/Tel Aviv Empire. Russia, as we all know (or should), is allied with Syria’s Assad as well as friendly to Iran. This of course means that Russia turns a blind eye to Hezbollah. For the Greater Israel project to move forward, the governments of Russia and Iran must be neutralized at the least, or rendered sock puppets at best. Even if it takes a nuclear war that the neocons think they can win and the zionists don’t care about because they think they will be spared.
PS. Stucky, go suck a dick
first of all, the podesta e-mail was obtained by spear phishing, they (??) posted a fake gmail message to reset you password, and someone clicked the link, who is they? they is whoever wants to shed light into dark spaces. could be US based, could be foreign based, does not matter.
notice how wiki-leaks is no longer “in the news” – the site is still up, all the e-mails are there to look at, but the story is no longer about Hillary the drunk, or Podesta the mollesta, now the story is all about changing our attention away from the failure of MSM in regards to not picking the war monger candidate.
the war mongers used social media and psyops against the ME, and created the Arab Spring, only to retreat into the shadows, and the result more failed states, and more “safe spaces” for terrorists, (who could have imagined that would happen)
now the psyop (fake news) is being used against US citizens, on US soil.
it will only lead to one eventual outcome,
the censorship of information via disinformation.