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Is the man crazy? Does he just shoot from the lip on crucial policies without thinking? Can’t do arithmetic? Or lies in the normal manner of politicians?
His promised expulsion would rank among history’s most awful humanitarian disasters. Mexico could not possibly absorb such a huge tsunami of returnees. They would have nowhere to stay, nothing to eat, no jobs.
The embittered anti-immigration people, readers of sites like Vdare, would not care. Screw the vile brown scum, rapists and welfare parasites, murderers, drug peddlers, low-IQ nasty unevolved human flatworms. The bastards came illegally, so to hell with them. But, I think, not enough of the country will buy it. Stopping the influx will probably fly. The Wall? Maybe, but I wouldn’t bet on it. We seem to hear less about it. Criminals? Most would favor deporting them.
But twelve million? Or anything resembling it? For many reasons, both charitable and self-interested, too many groups aren’t up for mass arrests and deportations. Not businessmen, who want the cheap labor, nor the Democratic Party that wants the votes, nor academia, nor the media, nor sanctuary cities, nor many of the young, nor liberals. Nor…California.
The question is not whether it was a good idea to encourage illegals to come. It wasn’t. The question is not even whether it would be good for the country to run them out. Doing it would be too ugly to gain support from the public. Too many illegals have been in the country for five, ten, fifteen years, speak English, have employers who value them, have children who are citizens and sometimes do not speak Spanish.
The Hispanic genii is out of the bottle. It is a done deal. Trump can’t do much about it. Neither can anyone else. Deporting a few hundred thousand of 56 million would not make a dent. A million would constitute less than two percent of the Latino population.
In any event, running out the illegals would leave 44 million legal Latinos. Or, increasingly, sort of Latinos. Is Rosa Gutierrez, nineteen, born and raised in California, whose English she speaks flawlessly–a Latina? Quite possibly she has never been to Mexico. She thinks that she is an American. Why isn’t she?
Worse, Rosa is pretty and feminine. If Pew is to be believed, the intermarriage rate is at 26 percent. This horrifies white nationalists, gratifies assimilationists, but neither horror nor gratification is going to change things. Will Rosa’s children, had in conjunction with her husband Robert Williams, be Latinos? They won’t think so. And you cannot deport American citizens.
Much of the hostility, though expressed in practical terms of lost jobs and so on, is in fact racial, and therefor incurable. Many of the white nationalists exhibit an almost effeminate squeamishness at the thought of their precious bodily essences being polluted by oozing dark sludge. Well, as you will. There are reasons why this view isn’t going to prevail. See below.
Oozing dark sludge. Young Anglo men may not see her exactly that way.
Since huge numbers of Latinos are in the country, and are not going to leave, the intelligent question–yes, I know this is a political column, but we can try a little eccentricity here–is: Can they be part of America? Well, let’s see.
They are approximately Christian, though like all Christians they don’t always remember the pars about adultery and fornication. They don’t do terrorism. Brown Lives Matter doesn’t burn malls and loot shoe stores, in part because it doesn’t exist. They don’t genitally mutilate their daughters, forbid them schooling, or make them wear funny black bags. They do not yell “Pancho-hu akbar” and stab people .An estimated million Americans including your scribe live amicably in Mexico. If it were such a horrible experience, you might expect us to notice. Wherever I have been in the US–LA, San Fran, New York, San Antonio, Houston, Laredo, Chicago, Washington–they have seemed integrated, working in restaurants, doctrine’s offices, what have you and both learning English and, often, forgetting Spanish.
There are down sides. While very few Mexicans are involved in the drug trade, a high proportion of those involved in the drug trade are Mexicans. Another is that if government can turn them into welfare dependents, it will.
What the white nationalists can do, perhaps, is to alienate white from brown and split the country into three mutually hostile groups, white, black and Latino. The constant disparagement of Latinos by Trump and the anti-immigrant enthusiasts appears aimed at just that. Strictly speaking, Trump might respond that he is not against Latin Americans but only against criminals and illegals, but it certain sounds as though he hates Mexicans. The racialist sites post endless stories, not infrequently dishonest, about Latino stupidity, crime, shiftlessness, and vile behavior. Mexicans, rightly or wrongly, conclude that they are hated. This does not encourage assimilation–assimilation being of course the last thing that white nationalists want. To endorse assimilation would be to grant legitimacy to the assimilees.
This attitude will prove unfortunate, since assimilation is the only hope of not having the United States become an ethnic disaster.
White nationalists tend to believe, and obviously hope, that Latin Americans are genetically criminal and incapable of of fitting into nations of the First World. This allows a comforting faith that mixing should be prevented at any cost. Yet those who have traveled in the world will have seen that economics, not genetics, is primary in behavior. In particular, as people move into the middle class, crime and fertility decline sharply and interest in education rises.
Just so, here. The Mexican middle class is no more violent than anyone else’s. (From which we derive genetically fascinating conclusions. Apparently the presence of a refrigerator and indoor plumbing alter the genetic makeup of those near them. Weird Kelvinator rays, one supposes.) Another observation readily made around the planet is that middle classes usually get along well with each other. All of this would suggest that encouraging immigrants to move into the middle class might be a Real Good Idea.
Unfortunately an assimilated Mexican middle class would intermarry vigorously with whites, thus polluting our precious bodily essences. Many of the anti-immigrants simply do not want anything to do with any Mexican ever under any circumstances. Thus they have no policy other than getting rid of people most of whom cannot be gotten rid of.
In particular they furiously oppose amnesty for illegals. This would be a rational position if there were a possibility that Mr. Trump could chase them out of the country–which he can’t do in significant numbers, which would mean many millions. At that point keeping them illegal amounts to preventing their economic rise and creating another permanent underclass.
Gosh, what a swell idea.
How bout this fred, fuck Mexico. Third world shithole. Mexico can’t handle us sending their criminals and grifters back, so what? They will have to figure it out, and since their so smart and recourceful, like fred tells us, I’m sure they will. We don’t exist to solve Mexico’s problems, we have enough of our own. And ingrate grifting mexicans is certainly one of them.
They have made themselves persona non grata. I can’t stand the fucks anymore – legal or illegal.
What to do with them? A big fucking chipper – next to a pig farm.
Star, I read just the title and author and said to myself…….self……fuck mejico and Fred Reed and the caballo loco he rode in on!
The beaners aren’t too happy about the Guats & Hondy’s coming across their southern border so why should WE be happy about ANY of them coming across ours?
FR ES
Mexico can’t take back 12 million of their own people – well WTF why should we?
Their average IQ is 88 (look it up). We need people with 88 IQ’s like we need another hole in our asses. They’re really going to contribute to our gene pool. If the Mexicans can’t straighten out Mexico – WTF are they going to do here?
Aside from the criminals which we can deport, there’s an easier way.
Just dry-up the jobs. Make all employers use E-Verify. Any employer caught not doing this will pay a mandatory $5,000 fine per employee. Maybe jail time also.
They will leave on their own.
Fred – you are full of shit. Tell me, how does Mexican cock taste?
We’ll cook our own restaurant food.
We’ll pick our own crops.
Frankly, I’m sick to death of going to the store and feeling like I stepped out of a Star Trek transporter into downtown Cancun’s WalMart. I see more swarthy Mayans than I do whites.
Barnie, how do you know they look Maya?
“Oozing dark sludge” – where do you get this shit?
I think you have gone way over the top and you are painting the ‘white’ citizens with a very broad brush.
Fuck you, Fred, and the horse you rode in on.
Create a hostile enough environment and all those Mestizos will GO HOME.
This is not their home. They have somewhere to go. I do not. This is the DEFINITION of “my home.”
So Fred, take your sanctimony and smoke it.
I have no problem with Hispanics that want to become Americans. I’m just not an American that wants to become a Mexican. And I sure as hell don’t know what an expat with no skin in the game has to say about it.
Where are all of these “white nationalist” that I keep hearing about? I am originally from Texas and have lived in Florida for thirty years. Both states are historically Hispanic and have a longstanding “mixed” culture. Many of the richest and most powerful families in both states are Hispanic or, more commonly, a mixture of Mexican or Cuban and what we call “white”.
The demand that I hear and agree with is that illegals that those who commit a crime should pay a price and be deported. If they are wanted in another country or are convicted of violent felonies there then they should be deported. We can all agree on that I hope.
Children that were born here are citizens, and are therefore out of this issue. What is left are those who entered this country illegally or overstayed a visa. What us of the unwashed masses demand first is that we secure the border. We must do this first, before any discussion on the fate of those already in this country illegally. Once we have a secure border, then we can discuss a humane and workable solution to dealing with those that fit into the “illegal immigrant” category. Each of these persons and families are entitled to individual review. That will take time, personnel, and money. This can be solved. But first things first…criminal illegals deported and secure the border.
Anchor babies (babies born to NON CITIZENS) should have their citizenship revoked. No other country that I know of does this, and rewarding people for Birth Tourism is BULLSHIT.
You can’t be a citizen of the USA unless you were born to one parent who is a citizen, legally adopted by at least one parent who is a citizen, or followed the letter of the law in obtaining citizenship. All others, GO HOME.
PS: Some of those rich Latinos in FL and TX are milking us taxpayers like cows with Affirmative Action set asides. A recent story discussed a multigenerational Cuban family, wealthy landowners, who get FREE MONEY from the state for underwriting state bond issues that are legally set aside for “latinos.”
It is shit like this that leads to war, pogroms, and killing fields.
OK, you will need either Congress to pass a law (which will be challenged in the courts) or an amendment to the Constitution. I’m ok with you doing either, but it will take…years. Right now we have the initiative and the political clout to get something done. Let’s do what we can right now and make progress.
I apparently misled you, my fault for emotional writing.
None of this matters to me. I’m quite certain that when this Gravy Train of (perceived) unlimited resources ends, there will be a wave of rage so deep and wide that the politics of the US will undergo a complete and total inversion.
The “welcome the world” ethos of recent past will invert and anyone who looks even vaguely “foreign” (as in not WASP) will be seen as a threat, a drain on scarce resources and a leper.
No one resists an idea whose time has come. That idea isn’t quite here yet, so we think there’s a problem with a political solution. I don’t see it that way. I see a condition now that will be GONE in a few years, a decade at most. I’m happy to see illegal immigration cracked down upon, because the more who are here, the more violence may escalate to get them out, but within 15 years I anticipate some conflict every bit as difficult as in the 1861-64 period.
I am frustrated with our elected representatives as well. You would think that the election of Trump would have woke up some of them. I hope it doesn’t come to armed conflict.
I’ve proven that I can’t predict the future, but I do have hopes.
I sincerely hope that should this Largest-ever financial bubble burst in coming years, instead of the usual situation where the President is blamed, Trump is able to scapegoat (well actually attribute properly the blame to) congress, especially the Cucks as well as the ‘Rats.
Then, I do hope there is an electoral bloodbath at the mid-terms, where the GOP stalwarts are wiped out in their primaries and then the ‘Rats are eliminated as a political entity in the general.
It’s probably a pipe dream; when this thing blows, I do think it will land squarely on whoever is in office and it has not one thing to do with culpability. The problems we face were 50 years in the making and lots of those who approved them (or voted for them) are already dead and gone.
We will have little choice but to make the best of it, as always. There are no saviors in Washington DC. There are no solutions to be found in voting. We get the system to which our neighbors consent, and people in the aggregate are as dumb as a box of rocks.
Who down voted your comment? It’s perfectly sensible.
I know this is off the subject – but my fucking state: Minnesota, and Minneapolis where fucking Somalis and queers are welcomed – while white people aren’t good for shit except paying taxes…
Well read this: ‘Little Mogadishu,’ the Somali capital of America..
There are 50,000 fucking stinking Somali’s in Minneapolis!
The Cedar-Riverside area has long been a magnet for new arrivals. Today, it’s mainly East Africans breathing new life into it.
Read this shit – you will puke: http://www.startribune.com/inside-little-mogadishu-no-one-is-an-outcast/414876214/
Average IQ <80.
Propensity to be on welfare? HIGH.
By the way, a "refugee" like these clowns is GIVEN Medicare coverage, NOT Medicaid, full MEDICARE they paid NOTHING in taxes to cover, while I have to worry about obtaining $12,000/yr crappy "medical insurance" lest I be paupered by an injury sustained if some intoxicated Mestizo without a drivers license or insurance hits me.
Sooner or later, These people are all going back to Somalia and staying there. Mark my words, it is only a question of time (and when this vast financial bubble goes Full Poseidon Adventure.)
I really want to bitch-slap those who support this stuff until their brains ooze out of their ears. If you want pets, PAY FOR THEM YOURSELVES.
This is all one sided horse-shit. We did amnesty in 1986 and see where that has led us. I’m sure with all the sanctuary hell holes enabling more lawlessness it will only continue to get worse. If they truly wanted to be here and assimilate we wouldn’t see them waving the flag of mexico and supporting Azetlan or whatever hell they call it. Go peddle your trash talk elsewhere.
Fred should write some letters-to-the-editor to Mexican newspapers advocating for the same, as it would apply to Guatamalans and Hondurans who just want a better life in Mexico and see how that would be received.
Tell them that people who will work for one-third of their wages would be a great thing for Ol’ Mexico! And let them have anchor babies, and have Mexicans pay the medical expenses! And most importantly, tell them this should be a permanent arrangement with no limits on the number who can come. Oh, also, the policy cannot be questioned or criticized. They’ll love the whole idea once it is explained to them by Fred how it is their Christian duty to do this.
It is an odd characteristic of Fred types to find the movement of 12 million human beings a northward only proposition. The thought of anyone who made it here returning to wherever it is that they came from is simply inconceivable to them, but that they got here in the first place is simply the way things work.
I think that would fit the cognitive dissonance definition quite well.
Fred (a very astute fellow normally) is “talking his book”–see below….
“Mexico could not possibly absorb such a huge tsunami of returnees. They would have nowhere to stay, nothing to eat, no jobs.”
I’m sure someone cares, but that someone isn’t me. Maybe Mexico should have thought about that before they started dumping all their problems on the USA…
But I understand, Fred, you live in Mexico to a lovely Mexican woman, and neither of you want to see 30 million people heading your direction. Guess what? Neither do we….
Shit, didn’t that Unision beaner say there were 60 million that will fuck shit up if they are told to get back to the shithole they won’t fix ‘cuz we don’t want them to turn this area into a new shithole?
Don’t know about anyone else, but 60 million still sounds a bit low, and that’s just from viewing the kitchens in Communesota. And the 11 million number has been thrown around for over a decade…
Pyrrhus, You are buying into the Trumpian rhetoric that “Mexico is sending…”
Mexico isn’t sending anybody. These folks come because the USA is the land of opportunity.
At least that is what is written about the former land of the free.
So, I don’t agree that Mexico “should have thought” about dumping their problems on the USA.
At least you didn’t attack old Fred for trying to write a funny, thought-provoking article in an effort to keep tortillas on his table.
Mexico shouldn’t cage their own citizens in and forbid them from moving to the US, but they certainly are effectively “sending them”. They publish info on how to get along inside the US. With remittances being so important, Mexico has been happy that people go north. I’m sure they don’t mind common street criminals going to the US, either.
True. As recently as 2006, the last year I have data for, remittances from immigrants living in the US made up an astounding 1/3rd of Mexico’s GDP.
Remittances.
Think about that. That’s a CAPITAL DRAIN, just as is shipping US factories to China and then exchanging T-bonds for Chinese-made consumer goods.
The USA is exporting capital at a rate that simply defies imagination. This is what happens when an entire society, no matter how wealthy, chooses to put their high lifestyles on credit for decade after decade.
PS: Remittances from the USA to Mexico are more than the gross income for Pemex, the state petroleum company. The bleeding of the USA is literally the largest industry in Mexico (and, I’ll wager, every other country in Central America.)
Remittances – All bleeding eventually stops.
As you know, Roy, this has been my refrain from Day One.
A country that has FIAT money and a Bond-issuing ORGY is over-consuming SOMETHING…..it’s only a question of WHAT?
I know what the answer is. It’s capital, the stuff that the future depends upon.
This is the MOTHER of ALL HOLES we’ve dug ourselves into. The situation is hopeless until we collectively obey the First Rule of Holes: Stop Digging.
We’re not even in sight of that yet.
If Fred Reed and James Howard Kunstler got into a fight with pool cues, who would win?
The readers of this blog.
That’s funny
Ya made me laugh dawg!
Fred baby, you’ve ben drinking too much of that Mexican water and it shows. This article was not quite as effective as that has been demorat gov. delivering the rebuttal to Trump’s speech the other night.
Maybe if you offered free tacos someone would bite.
I think Fred’s run out of boner pills and his Messican gal is transitioning to nurse maid while he enters his vertical-declining years.
Fred – your not supposed to put the boner pills up your dick.
“His promised expulsion would rank among history’s most awful humanitarian disasters.”
So?
Put it on Direct TV – channel 501 – charge extra for HD.
Let me mansplain it to you, Iska, he is exaggerating for emphasis.
You know, it didn’t have to fucking come to this. If the politicians would have given us the secure border we were supposed to get after Simpson-Mazzoli (30 fucking years ago!), if they hadn’t tried to ram their smoke & mirrors Gang of Eight open borders amnesty down our throat in 2013 (Marco fucking Rubio), if the Catholic Church hadn’t sponsored Rep. Luis Gutierrez of Illinois on a speaking tour at churches advocating for citizens of another country, then we wouldn’t have needed Trump. But the lefties overplayed their fucking hand so they themselves brought about El Presidente Donaldo. Fuck ’em all. Fuck their Mexican flags marching down our streets. Fuck their “Make America Mexico Again”. Fuck their La Raza. Fuck their Aztlan. Fuck, fuck, fuck them all.
Iska, AWD spent a lot of time blaming Hispanics for Obama getting in office. Now you turn around and blame Hispanics for indirectly causing Trump to get elected. I recommend you take a speed dump, you are so full of shit.
I didn’t blame hispanics for Trump. I blamed leftists. That includes Luis Gutierrez, but it also includes the entire democrat party, half of the Republican Party, my own parish priest, etc. So. I have no more fucks left to give (having used most of them in my prior rant).
Did your parish priest abuse you, Iska?
“But the lefties overplayed their fucking hand so they themselves brought about El Presidente Donaldo. Fuck ’em all. Fuck their Mexican flags marching down our streets. Fuck their “Make America Mexico Again”. Fuck their La Raza. Fuck their Aztlan. Fuck, fuck, fuck them all.”
I’m not really good at English but it sure sounds like your blaming us Razas.
No, I’m blaming lefties and taking out my frustration on their favorite ethic group. The main thing I blame hispanics for is believing the left that they could sneak in here, set up shop and not face any blowback.
Fred is lost in the attitude of the mexican practice of “regularizacion de carros chuecos”.
When there are enough cars illegally brought into Mexico, causing all kinds of problems, beginning with the fact that they can’t get car insurance, the government just legalizes them, slicing themselves a cut via the fee you have to pay for it. Legal car buyers, screw yourselves.
Fred, go back to your favorite water hole in your Gringo enclave in Ajijic, enjoy the sunset over Lake Chapala, and drink yourself out of the rest of what’s left of your $$&* mind.
Krazy Katzy, You are a good example of the proverb that says, a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing. How does your example of junker imports to Mexico equate to a Fred mentality?
Registration of used American cars is not equivalent to amnesty. American cars are restricted in Mexico as they depress Mexican sales. They only allow importation of cars is they are 10 years old. It happens that Americanos will take granny an old beater for her birthday. They can legally drive it in but they have to bring it back. When they leave it with granny, the new owner has to go register their illegally imported auto.
Mexico does not have an insurance requirement, if it does now, it is news to me. So your entire example is specious and abusing the limited knowledge of readers who assume American laws are universal.
Earth to Fred. Come in to wherever you are.
The solution to world problems is for poor people to have fewer children and wealthier to have more. The same thing John Derbyshire beat you reapeatably with a stick years ago.
We don’t need to deport these people. If we give hard time to anyone and everyone who hires an illegal and stop providing these parasites and their children with EBT cards, health care, welfare, drivers licenses, social security, and taxpayer sponsored bilingual educations they will deport themselves. For any that don’t we can enact asset forfeiture (it’s good enough for OUR people) and make them pay for their own deportation.
The ones that were born here are not legal. Everything that was done after these invaders crossed the border ILLEGALLY is illegal including having children. Everything from that moment on was done illegally. Working, driving, renting, eating, sleeping, births, government hand outs, food stamps, buying, selling, going to school, weddings, etc. ALL illegal. They would self deport if they couldn’t work any where or get any benefits. I guarantee you that if employers were fined $5000 a day and jail time for any illegal found working for them the jobs would dry up real quick. Problem solved.
And the best part of all:
“Mexico could not possibly absorb such a huge tsunami of returnees.”
So whose fault is that? Damn sure ain’t mine. Go to Mexico and pull that crap and see what happens to you. See if you are welcomed with open arms and free stuff. Dream on.
You’d be surprised Mr Greaseball. I’d suggest you look what the sheriff in Okaloosa County is doing. Got a ten year old domestic violence or driving without a license charge. That’s good enough for the sheriff to rearrest you and turn you over to ICE. Couldn’t believe it myself but I kept seeing him do it over and over again and not just with 5 foot tall mestizo stoop laborers.
Now maybe the greaseball can hire an attorney and try to resist deporation but he’s in custody and can’t make a living while he drags his case out. Odds are 9 out of 10 will decide getting deported is better than sitting in jail. It would be like sending you back to Illinois or wherever you came from. Maybe no paradise but not hell either. I’d suggest Mexico get ready for the influx because they have no choice.
The 11 or 12 million illegals that Fred references is bullshit. It was 11 million 15 years ago. You think with train cars stuffed to the max with even their roofs covered in illegals making their way to our southern border that it’s still 11 million?
If there are less then 35-40 million illegals here, I’ll eat my hat.
Ever wonder why this government that keeps track of every deer in a National Forest or counts the number of ticks in a sq mile doesn’t have an an accurate count of illegals? Yathink maybe the actual number of fucking welfare leeches would get us out in the GD streets.
I guarantee one thing, if these illegals weren’t voting in the millions for dems, that’s a party that takes it’s self preservation seriously-the dems would’ve had them deported decades ago.
And I’m fucking sick & tired of this white nationalist crap. I live in a mostly latino town in w Texas. I get along fine with my neighbors but if you’re here illegally, whether it’s crossing the border or a visa over stay, you’re breaking our law. Get the fuck out. It’s simply not fair to the people that want to assimilate and have spent the money & time to become legal citizens.
The unemployment is only 4.75% and there are 11 million illegals.
Truth is multiply each of those numbers by 3 or 4.
As a public service message:
Llpoh left recently, Stucky is on hiatus and SSS is somewhere else. So the IQ level here is really low.
Dutchy is an engineer, if you need to know how to modify a kid’s remote control car to replace a faulty motor on a $4000 french door fridge with icemaker and wifi connection, he’s your man. Other than that, he is totally useless for matters of public policy. The big galloot is descended from the engine room first mate on the Mayflower. His family has stuck to a strict code of non-assimilation with the lower class whiggers. This has resulted in a racially pure moron who has managed to get no farther than a glorified technical education without the technical part.
Build the wall. On top – razor wire, broken glass, dog shit.
And pork rinds.
No, on second thought, bacon grease.
John Williams puts real unemployment at 23%. Civilian population to employment ratio is hovering around 60% and labor force participation rate is also right around 60 % which would suggest that actual unemployment is somewhere between 23% and 40%. No matter how you look at it the numbers are as bad or worse than the unemployment situation during the Great Depression, and it is going to get much worse before it gets better.
Milanesa, I do wish people would read slower and move their lips if they have to so they can grasp the main message. Let me dumb it down for you. (Shit, I thought I was done summarizing articles for readers.) Basically, Fred said the idea that Trumpy is going to deport 11 million beaners is – well, Hitler only got to 6 million.
Fred uses humor, irony, hyperbole and fantasy to produce an entertaining article. Literal readers are recognizable by their knee-jerk reaction to flame old Fred. And I am speaking of readers on both sides of the issue.
Get a brain, morans!
It may be true that many of the illegals (11 million, or more?) won’t be deported. It’s the goddamned triumphalism about that fact that makes people hope they get em all. It’s like “we snuck in here and there ain’t a goddamn thing you gringos can do about it”. Well we’ll just see about that, won’t we?
All those illegals could not have come here for the past 50 years if the Swamp Things had not promoted it. Why on earth would a poor person obey a law if he experiences only positive consequences for violating it? Is a law really a law if no one cares to enforce it, or is it just a pretend law?
The people have been assured during this same period of time by the same demonic entities to just be patient, something will be done. Well, last November the people’s patience ran out and now there is a new sheriff in town and a big beautiful wall to be built. The wall is to protect us from the credo of the Swamp – not the Mexicans!
Proof: I was infuriated to hear Senator Cornyn of Texas in a Fox interview last night, when asked about the wall, claim that Texas doesn’t need the wall. True, some areas have high cliffs, preventing entry, but the rest of Texas can be protected with manpower, drones, and technology, so no wall is needed. The people of Texas trust their elected representatives to make good decisions about these sorts of things. Gee, do you think the smooth talking Senator has some interests he does not want disturbed? Now why would anybody think that?
I assume Sen. Cornyn is a member of the gang that makes sure the GOP led legislative branch accomplishes nothing. He said in the interview that it is the Democrats’ fault.
Both our Senators here in Texas suck. Cruz is a fucking liar, can’t stand him. And Cornyn is bi-polar. He sponsors a bill for National carry but he’s voted to raise the debt ceiling every time, TARP and all TARP extensions, Loretta Lynch, inserted full funding for ObamaCare into the last CR, sided with Harry Reid on immigration(amnesty), voted every time against any balanced budget proposals, supported Charlie Christ in FL and Spector in PA!
And my Rep? Mike Conaway. What a laugher. Solid with big oil and big ag and the rest of us pee-ons can kiss off. He’s so locked into his seat, the dems didn’t even bother running an opponent. First time in my life I didn’t vote for a Republican in my CD.
Strange state.
If Cornyn doesn’t want the wall on texas’ southern border, tell him we’ll put it on Texas’ northern border.
Gayle, they will be spending around $30 billion on a wall when the monies would be better invested in infrastructure. But the feds don’t work that way, they prefer to waste it on pork projects to benefit their cronies. The portions of the wall that are going to go up in the desolate areas of the border might as well be erected along the interstate for all the good they will do.
Take a look at the wall in Nogales on a satelite map or google maps even, it ends miles outside of the city where no person on foot could ever hope to get around it easily. If you have ever been on a 20 mile hike, you know it is not an easy thing to walk around the wall. Then look at the big bend area and explain how it makes sense to build there. Might as well build along the Grand Canyon.
Trumpy has simply sold the tards on a make-work project which he promised to build using his own companies. No wonder Scott Adams gushed about Trumpy hypnotizing the tards, there is no other way to explain how they bought the hare-brained plan lock, stock and barrel.
EC, the wall is a great idea. Not so we can turn our backs on Mexico, it’s just time for a major reset. The multi-nationals have done an economic hitman job on both us and Mexico, and somebody needs to break up the scrum, and send everybody back to their corners. It’s the only way to fix it. I’ve been puttering along with an article about this for some time, I have to do some fact checking and haven’t had the time. Mark my words, Trump will be the best thing that ever happened to Mexico. As for fred, he’s not funny, he’s not entertaining, he’s just a minor league douchebag.
Don’t need to spend all that money on a wall when a minefield will get the job done. Point being that walls are not the only effective obstacles that can be used. I’m sure that even a retard like myself could come up with more cost effective means of keeping people out than a wall. Maybe even some non-lethal ones.
On a side note I’d like to thank Sen. Cornyn for introducing the concealed carry reciprocity legislation in the senate. When this passes those of us fortunate enough to be residents of constitutional carry states will be able to legally carry nationwide and don’t need no stinking permission slip. I have no desire to ever visit Chicago or other similar shithole cities, but if I ever have to I’ll feel a lot safer with brother John Browning at my side.
I think residents of places like Maryland, Massachusetts, Illinois and California will resent us out-of-staters packing heat in their state and they’ll be clamoring for, no, DEMANDING the same right, bringing constitutional poptart rights nationwide. It will be a giant leap for freedom.
Hey there…partner…. IL has concealed carry now. Applies to Chicago, too, where there are tens of thousands of permits already in place.
I agree wholeheartedly with your point though. Whatever passes muster in your state of residence should be good enough everywhere you travel in the USA. IL’s CCL system sucks (expensive, and there’s zero reciprocity so the other states that accept an IL permit are hit and miss.)
All gun laws are silly, based on fictional “pre-crime” BS. If I carry a gun it means nothing about my intentions. If I intend to commit a crime, laws affecting my carrying of the gun are meaningless. If I don’t intend to commit a crime, they’re simply redundant.
The Left is full of idiots. They want to have laws against carrying guns while they want to PREVENT cops from searching people, including people who are acting suspiciously. How F-ing stupid are these people? (Rhetorical question, as the answer is INFINITELY.)
As if Mexicans are not racist, Fred has allowed white guilt to consume intellect.
We’re not racist, gringo. White guilt is an American thing. Jesse Jackson tried to shake down the president of Mexico for some sort of racial grievance. After Jesse left Mexico empty-handed, President Fox had the post office issue a commemorative stamp honoring a little black imp, Memin Pinguin, a childhood favorite of all Mexicans growing up in the 60’s.
You only have to send back enough until there are too many jobs available. At this point wages will rise to livable levels and then we won’t care about the illegals.
Brain, according to your logic, wages should rise to stratospheric levels once everybody is dead or deported. If the population is reduced to the 1% and they are all billionaires, wages and prices will rise to meet the available money. However, it it wage disparity that drives employment and makes the money flow like wine. This means that some whiggers will have to pick the lettuce. Are you willing to pick lettuce for $1.20 an hour? Oh wait, you want $50 an hour, right?
I’ll pay more for lettuce. No problemo.
History shows that this is in fact true. The Black Plague is widely credited in academic/scholastic circles with the creation of the middle/merchant/tradesman class in the first place. Labor was in such short supply due to deaths that wages rose enough to enable savings, capital formation, and training/education. The direct result was the Age of Enlightenment and Renaissance.
Fewer people, more pie per person, simple arithmetic.
Not to mention that the dumber people were more likely to be culled. During Europe’s Middle Ages, life was so nasty, brutish and short for the lower classes that few of them survived and left descendants.
This is largely why Northern Europeans are relatively bright. “Stupid” was a capital crime under Nature, and the penalty was death. Over time, Northern/Western Europe came to be populated by the kids of the artisans and aristocrats, i.e., the upper half of society.
Sun People (Africa, Central America, etc.) were culled by very different forces, which is why they are very, very different people.
The quickest and easiest solution it seems to me is to start with deporting the thousands of illegals currently incarcerated. This would also solve the overcrowding problems in our prisons. No, wait…that makes too much sense.
It does and it doesn’t, RWG. Bammy tried to screw the for-profit prisons but Trumpy gave them their illegals incarceration money-maker right back.
They also had a deal with a judge who kept sending kids to their prisons, they would kick back some of their big profits to him.
Think of it, if they did as you suggested, pretty soon somebody would find a reason to imprison regular white folks on bullshit charges. Don’t think they will spare you cause your white. Things don’t work that way in America anymore. Ask the whiggers who’ve been home-invaded by cops and got their ass blown away when they tried to whip out the lead pills.
The pendulum has swung the other way as the law was flaunted for decades. Now it will swing back. Everify 100% of jobs and the magnet evaporates. Laraza and Univision fold and go home. Done deal. They wave. Erica flags and say they own the western US, want bet? Payment is in lead.
Any legalization costs 25k each and 10 years then no vote for another 10. Then build the wall higher, for every million that pays up a year of zero immigration. So that’s 10 plus years of zero immigration. Then reduce it by half, cancel Kenedy’s stupid immigration law and rewrite it. Cancel h1b too.
Nice try. Not.
The illegals are shiftless AmerIndians, not the Mexican “middle class” which is made up of European descended people.
Mexico is not a monolith – it is Europeans (Spanish/Germans) exploiting the hell out of AmerIndians and then shipping them to the U.S. as a safety valve and revenue source.
Mexico is at war with the U.S.
Get used to them? Get real.
Let me see here. I pay my “Mexicans” $30-$45 per hour. They are not on welfare and work their ass off every day. I can’t find ONE white guy willing to work. It’s took fucking hard for their privileged Lilly white ass. So what am I to do?
I have no problem with E-verify. Let’s do it. But don’t blame them for taking jobs away from whitey. Whitey for the most part is too fucking lazy to pick up a shovel or swing a hammer. Whitey is afraid to sweat a little to earn a buck.
Every white kid I hire quits within two weeks.
I have 40-60 hours of work available for anyone willing to sweat a little. I will start a Total novice out at $15.00 per hour and I will provide medical insurance after 90 days.
So Fuck You. All you racist lily white assholes. EVERY South & Central American I have ever met works their ass off to provide for there family. If only white America would do the same.
Shit, you should do construction in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, where I moved from.
You could cut your costs by 2/3rds, and that’s before axing benefits, and have all-white crews, as Mexicans don’t like living in snow asshole-deep to a helluva tall indian.
Only problem is nobody could afford the shitty tract-houses big cuntstruction companies build, and the snow would cave them in.
Amen,Constman.
The American white boy has lost his work ethic.
54 makes a devastating point. We’ve got a whole generation or 2 who are fat, lazy soft and entitled. Work ethic? What the fuxk is that, can I find it on my phone? I’ve been swinging a hammer for over 40 years, wherever I’m at its just old fuxks like me and immigrants. We’re getting overrun cause these dudes smell blood in the water. Your fat fuxkin kid’s playin video games, listenin to rap while these guys are cutting your lawn. All those WWII old timers who taught me must be rollin around in their graves at this whole sad sack of shxt.
The situation you decry will fix itself within two years of the stock market (and asset bubble in general) blowing up for good.
It doesn’t matter what the lazy whites are doing as long as they are legal. Illegal is illegal. If I don’t like a law that doesn’t mean my lily white butt can do what ever I like. If there are no laws for some then there should be no laws for all. You can’t pick and choose which ones you want to abide by. I don’t like paying property taxes and a whole lot of other things, so what. I thought that was what laws were for. Just because you want to enrich yourself with cheap illegal labor at my expense doesn’t make it okay. Go live south of the border of you want cheap labor. Good luck with that.
The top-line rationale for letting in vast numbers of legal and illegal immigrants is that without them there will be no way to keep the economy & entitlement programs like Social Security going.
This is too stupid for words.
The invaders are changing the politics. Once there’s enough of them in the country, they will completely asset-strip whites. They are like a plague of locusts, not “industrious ants.”
Even the smartest, most famous people today are utterly clueless.