Guest Post by Martin Armstrong
A word to the wise. Any American traveling to Europe, you are better off hiring a limo driver or call Uber than drive yourself. In Europe, they have speed cameras everywhere. If you are 1 KM over the speed limit in Switzerland, the camera goes off and you have a fine. It’s not like America where even on an interstate highway with a 65 mph limit, traffic typically moves at 80 mph and police will start to look at you over 80. Local municipalities are different. Some of them are so broke they make up stuff.
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In Europe, they fine you using cameras, which are also illegal in the USA. You have a right to confrontation and a camera cannot testify against you in court. Those state who adopted the red light cameras used them for revenue, but you would not get any points on your license because they too were unconstitutional.
The Europeans are simply totally insane. They fine you in proportion to what you can pay. In Britain, they are setting this at 175% of the weekly wage. So if you were a CEO earning $25 million a year, your fine will be $841,346.
In 2010, a motorcycle was clocked at 164 mph. They let him keep his license if he paid $12k to Canadian authorities for speeding ticket. Then there is Finland which also adjusts speeding ticket fees based on the driver’s annual income. One driver caught doing a measly 15 over in a 50 mph zone and since he made about $7mil a year, his speeding ticket was almost $60K.
There was the Nokia phone director Anssi Vanjoki who was rising his Harley-Davidson in Helsinki, Finland and got tagged going 47 mph in a 31 mph zone. They fined him €116k. Straight out of the Communist Manifesto, in 2004, a 27-year-old heir to his family’s sausage business was hit with a with a $217k ticket for going 50 mph in a 25 mph.
Then there was the Swiss millionaire speeding at 85 mph in a 50 mph zone. The court said his net worth was $22.7m and since he had a previous speeding ticket, the court fined him $290,000. Yet even this is not the record for speeding tickets. The Swiss are simply really out worshiping Marx. A Swedish driver in a Mercedes-Benz SLR in Switzerland got caught going 186 mph. He was fined €650,000, which back in 2010, was $1 million.
Making fined based upon income is definitely the ultimate Marxist agenda. Worse yet, you are being caught by a camera and need not even be chased like in some Hollywood Movie like the Fast And Furious.
Europeans are totally fucken crazy. France is 10% Muslim. LePen ought to get 90% of the vote, but she’ll probably lose on May 7 to nancy-boy Macron. I’ll say this about tickets in the US. A person can accidentally speed coming down a hill. Littering is on purpose. Tickets for littering should be a lot higher. Minneapolis is turning into Garbage Town.
Littering tickets in Oregon are $2750 according to signs posted along I-84. I speed through there all the time but I don’t litter!
It’s even more if you throw burning material. Beware the area between Cascade Locks and Hood River…stater’s love that area.
I agree with charging based on income. If you’re rich, the law is no big deal. I got a ticket (I was speeding but the cop gave me a “failure to obey a road sign). He also gave me a ticket for expired inspection sticker.
Total for both tickets was $60. I paid by phone (it was the only option). Total was $334. Imagine a single mother barely hanging on financially. Hmm, food this week or keep my license?
You said “Total for both tickets was $60. I paid by phone (it was the only option). Total was $334″…..which was it? The first is not too bad, the latter is terrible.
Each ticket was $30 but because of all the fees, the total came to over $300.
Why is paying by phone your only option? Don’t you have the option to appear in court then pay the clerk or mail it in?
No mailing option given. Company busy season. Can’t take off work.
Oh, and all automated on the phone. No live person.
In the last 40 years I’ve received a total of 2 tickets, and I’m a very fast driver who believes many traffic laws are mere suggestions to be followed as appropriate. Both were speeding tickets in foreign countries (Canada & Switzerland) using speed cameras. So I definitely hear what Armstrong is saying.
But the US doesn’t need to spend money on speed cameras because in the not to distant future all new cars will have chips built in that will track you everywhere. If you happen to speed the computer will automatically send you a ticket or possibly just take the money directly out of your bank account.
Ah, technology is such a wonderful thing!
I’ll be disabling the antenna that sells you out when that happens.
you won’t find me driving a car that can report on my speed. I would rather drive an old clunker without ac in SoCal than have a car that can squeal on me.
Greetings,
Until we go 100% driverless cars, I’m sticking to my 1989 S-10 that was a parks and recreation vehicle that I bought with 44k original miles on it for $1500. I’ll drive that thing until none of this matters anymore. After all, what are cities like Phoenix going to do given that a full 50% of the money needed to run the city comes from traffic fines? I hope they starve once it is 100% driverless. Then the costumed monsters wont be able to bother us anymore.
My next vehicle is either going to be a 1970 Monte Carlo with a new fuel injected motor or a 1969 stepside chevy pickup with a new fuel injected motor. Both of those can be had/done for under $15k. Maybe $20k. And will last fo-eva.
I drive/ride fast almost all the time. I commute on a motorcycle in SoCal in heavy traffic, splitting lanes constantly and cruising at 80 mph when conditions permit.
Sounds odd perhaps, but I am also very safety conscious, realizing that a lapse in judgement or an incorrect calculation could have devestating consequences.
That said, anyone driving 186 mph on public roads is a menace and the reported fine, imo, was not excessive.
As Dirty Harry said “A man’s got to know his limitations”.
Go ahead- flame on.
I took a round trip to San Diego today from Temecula on the 15 and set the cruise at 79 (speed limit is 70). I constantly got passed on both legs of the trip.
For years I was a librarian. Now that I have awoken I am an anarchist. I absolutely hate all gov.
I left the cesspool 6 tears ago. Latin America is so much better.
Traffic tickets are just taxation. They were never for the stated purpose of safety by those who reap the rewards. Proof of this is that those who issue them to others have never been held to account for violating them.
More unjust weights and balances.
Blessings:-}
I have gotten two speeding tickets in the past 15 years. Both times I paid a lawyer to get rid of them. That’s what rich people really do.
A speeding ticket in Thailand — $15 . I think of it more as a toll than a fine.