What’s The Point?

Guest Post by The Zman

The North Koreans launched another missile from her east coast. It is the ninth launch this year. The news says it was a scud missile that went about 300 miles before crashing into the ocean. This is supposed to mean something, so the people who claim to know about these things are consulted to tell us what they mean. In this case, it means that whatever it is the South Koreans are doing is not working. Maybe it means whatever the US is doing is not working. Whatever it is, everyone seems to think it is a big deal.

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According to Google, North Korea is a little more than 4,000 miles from Hawaii. The coast of the United States, San Francisco to be exact, is 5,500 miles from North Korea. If the Koreans are flying missiles 300 miles into the ocean, they have a long way to go before they are a serious threat to launch nukes against the US. Even assuming these are just tests as proof of concept, it is a huge step from what they are doing now to being able to deliver a nuke from one continent to another.

There may be more to it, but no sane person could think the Koreans are a serious threat to launch a nuke at the US now or in the near future. In fact, they are probably a generation away from being able to deliver a nuke with any degree of stealth and accuracy. Even if they could get one off, the result would be certain death for them. The US would respond with a nuke attack from the air and sea that would eliminate North Korea as an ongoing concern for a few thousand years.

Maybe the North Koreans are suicidal, but there are quicker ways to bring the roof down on themselves. The obvious answer is they are up to something else, something more practical. What that could be is never discussed. The US is willing to give them whatever they want to end their nuke program. The South Koreans would kick in whatever is needed and so would Japan. All the Kim family has to do is name their price and the check is in the mail. Yet, this ridiculous missile dance continues to no obvious purpose.

The other side of this is just as pointless. Trump made a big deal out of cutting a deal with the Chinese to put pressure on the Koreans. He then sent a carrier group to the South China Sea. The point was to let the chubby little dictator know that we mean business. He launched his missiles anyway and nothing happened. At last count, there are three carrier groups in the region, along with some unknown number of ballistic missile submarines, armed with nuclear missiles. That’s a lot of firepower, but nothing changes.

The thing that everyone seems to know, except maybe Trump, is that there is zero chance the US launches an attack on the North. The result of a war on the peninsula would be catastrophic for the South Koreans. There’s a pretty good chance the Japanese would take a lot of damage. Then there is the chance of a conflict with China. No one, including the North Koreans, wants a war. That brings us back to the question, what is the point of all of this? What’s the end game all sides are aiming for?

The answer may be that there is not point to all of it, just a way for all sides to fill up their days, pretending to be leaders of a world that no longer needs leaders. Would the average Japanese notice if his rulers stopped showing up for work? Is the average South Korean concerned in the least about what his rulers are doing? The only reason to care is the prospect that they will do something stupid and set off a pointless war with the North Koreans. Otherwise, the ruling class is a burden, not an asset.

That may explain why the leadership in the West appears to be going mad. Trump was in Europe to meet with the provincial governors and their biggest concern was some new scheme to make Gaia happy.The Western media gets upset at Trump for seeming to question the point of NATO, but when the chief concern of Europe is the weather, a military alliance does seem a bit pointless. Does anyone really think the Russians are going to roll tanks into the heart of Europe? Not even Bill Kristol thinks that’s possible.

Maybe that’s why the Europeans are inviting the Muslim world to invade their cities and create havoc among the native populations. Everyone in charge is bored. They wake up each morning wondering, what’s the point? Being in charge of Germany is rather pointless if you can’t invade the Sudetenland or defend the fatherland against a barbarian invasion from the east. The nations of Europe hardly qualify as countries anymore. All of the important stuff is done by the US or supranational organizations.

In The End of History and the Last Man, Francis Fukuyama argued that the end of the Cold War meant that humanity was moving into the final stage of social and political evolution. The great ideological struggles were over and the world was moving toward a great social democratic super-state. Stuff would still happen and conflicts would arise, but the die was cast. The end point of mankind was a world governed by social democracy and a global administrative state. The world would stop being fun.

Maybe that’s what we’re seeing. The Asian powers are just displaying muscle memory, from a time when being in charge mattered. They go through the motions up to the point when they realize there is no point. The European leaders are doing something similar with the Muslim invasion. It’s Munchausen syndrome by proxy, but the victim is the population of Europe. The ruling class is charged with taking care of their people, but their people are fine, so they are poisoning their people, so rulers have something to do.

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Dutchman
Dutchman
May 30, 2017 11:12 am

I say to NK : “Go for San Fransicko”

racistwhitedude
racistwhitedude
  Dutchman
May 30, 2017 2:32 pm

I wish they would aim for seattle.

Anon
Anon
May 30, 2017 11:17 am

“The answer may be that there is not point to all of it, just a way for all sides to fill up their days, pretending to be leaders of a world that no longer needs leaders. Would the average Japanese notice if his rulers stopped showing up for work? Is the average South Korean concerned in the least about what his rulers are doing? The only reason to care is the prospect that they will do something stupid and set off a pointless war with the North Koreans. Otherwise, the ruling class is a burden, not an asset.”
– And there is the money shot. This is why, if most sane Americans (not Muricans or ignorant libtards) were asked if it mattered if the Government was shut down by the debt ceiling theatre, I would bet that a good 90% would not even notice.
At the end of the day, Government has now become nothing but a big make work program. The politicians and government drones have one job – that is to stay employed. Period. EVERYTHING they do is to that end. If most of the “leaders” dropped off the planet tomorrow, I bet that the self sufficient, industrious members of our society, would not only not notice, but, in a short time realize that the chains that have bound them and their pursuits have been lifted, and would in turn take more chances, and society would experience a renaissance of great measure.
Today’s “leaders” are nothing but a boat anchor on society. We know it, and THEY know it. Their only reason for the stupid things they do is to make sure THEY still appear to be needed, and that they can shove a gun in anyone’s face that feels that they don’t need them. The upside is that more and more people (thinking people whose paycheck does not depend on ignorance to facts) are realizing this. The millennials, for all of their faults, I think understand this concept better than anyone. They simply use the system for what they can get out of it, and move on. For all the snowflakes I see, I also see an undercurrent of distrust of institutions and government. The only ones that don’t harbor this resentment are the ones from connected “families” or the Princeton, Harvard crowd that feel their divine right is to be one of the chosen ones. I suspect the guillotine may be their ultimate destination.

CCRider
CCRider
May 30, 2017 11:21 am

That it makes no common sense for there to be a war with N Korea is absolutely correct and perhaps irrelevant. It very well might make political sense in that a depressing number of our fellow benighted citizens rally to the side of whatever ruling jackass when he starts hostilities. Poll numbers reflexively go higher-at least temporarily-until the brutal reality settles in. Trump saw this effect when he launched those million dollar roman candles into Syria. Never underestimate the insidious evil that is political calculation.

fleabaggs
fleabaggs
  CCRider
May 30, 2017 1:29 pm

CC.
Right you are.

i forget
i forget
  CCRider
May 30, 2017 2:30 pm

No pol calcs w/o lcd calculees. Political sense, even before netting out to bottom line, is an oxymoron…that’s when morons oxidize each other “for flag & country.”

Annie
Annie
May 30, 2017 12:27 pm

The Z child can’t even conceive of the fact that a submarine that could easily get to within 20 miles of any of the US coasts. Then they wouldn’t have to be able to launch anywhere near 300 miles. They’d need just 4 out of their hundreds of subs: One positioned 20 miles off of LA, one 20 miles off of San Fran, one 20 miles off of NY NY, one 20 miles off of Dallas and let the fun begin. Or maybe just a couple subs, one off of the east coast the other off of the west coast and have each one lob a couple nukes 300 miles inland to detonate high enough up to hit most of the US population centers with a pretty impressive EMP. Didn’t bother reading any further.

Uncool Cat
Uncool Cat
  Annie
May 30, 2017 1:02 pm

Annie,

Are you joking? Does North Korea have subs that can travel from NK 5,000 miles to the U.S. west coast? Remaining undetected? Reach the east coast how — through the Panama Canal? I can also assure you that no submarine can get 20 miles from Dallas without traveling on our interstate highway system.

Please. We have enough to worry about without bizarre fantasies.

Annie
Annie
  Uncool Cat
May 30, 2017 1:32 pm

Japanese subs cruised the pacific coast of the US back in the 1940s, certainly sub technology has improved since then so the west coast is definitely a possibility and who knows how far subs could cruise now whether it is through the Panama Canal or way down south one way or the other?

So sue me, I wasn’t paying attention and typed Dallas instead of Houston.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4400340/Naval-activity-prompts-concerns-foreign-submarine.html

Gator
Gator
  Annie
May 30, 2017 2:38 pm

Those subs had tenders that resupplied and refueled them from various bases around the pacific. Sonor technology is also vastly improved since then. These are diesel electric subs, they have to spend the majority of their transit time at or near the surface to run diesels to recharge batteries and actually go fast. The best their old boats can do under water is 2 or 3 knots for a couple of days at a time. Large desiels like those can be heard for 50 or more miles under water by our subs.

Also, it’s highly unlikely that we don’t have fast attack boats lurking outside of their naval ports. Anytime one of their subs leaves, I guarantee you it’s got a shadow following it around.

In short, that’s a highly unlikely scenario.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Gator
May 30, 2017 7:50 pm

Annie,
Gator is probably correct.However,that is a real possibility.
N Korea has fairly modern diesel subs that do run quietly.
One of the worst case scenarios is for a sub to get close to the Texas gulf coast on a suicide mission.If they could launch some missiles high enough and have them detonate over middle America,such as Kansas City,it could cause an EMP over huge portions of the country.

jackson
jackson
  Uncool Cat
May 31, 2017 5:03 am

There’s nothing to see here. Move along people!

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-idUSKCN10Y2B0

If you think it’s not possible, you’re delusional.

rhs jr
rhs jr
May 30, 2017 1:02 pm

It’s like the SJWs that took over Evergreen “College” etc; BLM and SJWs etc are planning to take over America like the Pigs in Animal Farm; they want to nuke all Conservatives. NK is planning (with Iran etc) to nuke US, Japan etc and take over. But Trump is going to nip NK and the SJWs in the bud. Like in the Western movies: The Hole in the Wall Gang is coming to town to rob the bank but the shades of every window in town are hiding a rifleman waiting for them to hitch their horses. Gonna be a lot of surprised liberals; gonna be a real good fight; gonna be a real piece of cake for the guys in White hats; gonna be a real bad last day for the Useless Idiots.

rhs jr
rhs jr
May 30, 2017 4:21 pm

Even USAF Commanders are briefed first thing each morning about subs; they bear considerable watching!

ed
ed
May 30, 2017 11:07 pm

I believe within the next 5 years nuclear weapons will be expended in some conflict. Whether it is a conflict between regional powers like India/Pakistan…China /India….Saudi Arabia, Israel and Iran, Nkorea/South Korea..limited in scale or a larger conflict between the Major Powers US, UK/Russia/China…Is unknown. The chances of conflict grow daily. Hopefully it will be on the low end of the scale (regional conflict) and not on the high end Strategic global nuclear war. It may be by accident, brinksmanship,stupidity or miscalculation.. too many variables but it is inevitable at some point…

Pete
Pete
May 31, 2017 7:41 am

So load a nuke on an ancient DC-8 or Ilyushin Il-62 or Boeing 707.
Fly right over the US Navy nice & slow. Instand IC, skip the BM part.
Flying missiles into the ocean is a distraction.