More than 5,000 out-of-state voters may have tipped New Hampshire against Trump

Via The Washington Times

More than 6,500 people registered to vote in New Hampshire on Nov. 8 using out-of-state driver’s licenses, and since then the vast majority have neither obtained an in-state license nor registered a motor vehicle.

Conservatives say the state’s same-day registration is an invitation for fraud because of loose proof-of-residence rules.

New Hampshire House Speaker Shawn Jasper, a Republican, issued the numbers Thursday based on inquiries he made to the Department of State, which oversees elections, and the Department of Safety.

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Since Election Day, Republicans have charged that a significant number of nonresident Democrats, principally from Massachusetts, flowed into New Hampshire to vote illegally, tilting a close race to their party.

“Having worked before on a campaign in New Hampshire, I can tell you that this issue of busing voters into New Hampshire is widely known by anyone who’s worked in New Hampshire politics. It’s very real. It’s very serious. This morning, on this show, is not the venue for me to lay out all the evidence,” White House policy adviser Stephen Miller told ABC News in February.

Though Mr. Jasper’s findings don’t prove those accusations, they do corroborate them. The numbers read this way:

⦁ 6,540 people registered and voted on Nov. 8, based on presenting out-of-state licenses.

⦁ As of Aug. 30, about 15 percent (1,014 of the voters) had been issued New Hampshire driver’s licenses.

⦁ Οf the remaining 5,526, barely more than 200 (3.3 percent) had registered a motor vehicle in New Hampshire.

New Hampshire law gives drivers 60 days upon establishing residence to obtain a state license.

But more than 80 percent of voters who registered on Nov. 8 using out-of-state driver’s licenses, or 5,313 of them, neither had a state license nor registered a motor vehicle almost 10 months later.

Double voting is illegal, and 196 people are being investigated for casting ballots in New Hampshire and in other states.

In the presidential race, Democrat Hillary Clinton defeated Republican Donald Trump in New Hampshire by 2,736 votes. In an even tighter race, for the Granite State’s U.S. Senate seat, Democratic challenger Maggie Hassan defeated incumbent Republican Kelly Ayotte by 1,017 votes.

Logan Churchwell, spokesman for Public Interest Legal Foundation, which investigates voter fraud, said Mr. Jasper’s numbers bolster his group’s findings that many people vote in New Hampshire without proof of residence.

“We’ve known for months that more voters cast ballots without any proof of actually living in New Hampshire than the differentials for either federal contest there in 2016,” he said. “Now it looks like they were back in Boston in time to watch the election returns that evening. The left-wing groups suing to block new proof-of-residence laws for same-day voter registration are really proving what drives them to the courthouse.”

Project Veritas, a conservative investigative unit, took hidden cameras to New Hampshire for the 2016 February primary.

Poll workers told Veritas operatives that they did not need to live in the state to vote, that they could use a Massachusetts driver’s license and that they could fill out a form if they had no ID.

“If you’re here today, you can vote and be gone,” one poll official unwittingly told Veritas.

A spokesman for Mr. Jasper said the speaker was presenting raw data and did not know which states issued the 6,540 licenses and acknowledged that the numbers could include some college students.

In February, while meeting with senators at the White House, Mr. Trump said he lost New Hampshire because thousands of Massachusetts residents crossed state lines to vote. He also said Ms. Ayotte lost for the same reason: illegal voting.

The liberal media dismissed his accusations. The Boston Globe called them “groundless.”

The president has appointed a special commission to investigate voter integrity, led by Vice President Mike Pence.

By coincidence, New Hampshire will host the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity’s first meeting outside Washington on Tuesday. Vice Chairman Kris Kobach, the Kansas secretary of state, will preside.

Democrats oppose the panel and have called for its demise.

At least two scientific surveys show that a larger number of noncitizens register and vote illegally in U.S. elections. One poll found that a large majority vote Democrat.

Mr. Jasper said in a statement that he requested the driver’s license and motor vehicle information “to benefit the legislature in its assessment of the effectiveness of our current election laws as well as future legislation that could improve our voter registration and verification processes.”

The two state departments, State and Safety, provided the data to Mr. Jasper on Wednesday in a joint letter.

Secretary of State William M. Gardner, a Democrat, signed the letter. Also signing was John Barthelmes, the Republican appointed commissioner for the Department of Safety.

The two agencies explained the 5,313 number (neither a driver’s license nor a registered motor vehicle many months later) with several possible reasons.

“It is likely that some unknown number of these individuals moved out of New Hampshire, it is possible that a few may have never driven in New Hampshire or have ceased driving, however, it is expected that an unknown number of the remainder continue to live and drive in New Hampshire. If they have established their residence in New Hampshire, they may have failed to obtain a New Hampshire driver’s license.”

Nowhere in the letter do the departments suggest that out-of-state people voted illegally.

The letter contains another interesting fact: There were 6,033 people who signed domicile affidavits in order to register to vote. The secretary of state sent letters to all of them, and the U.S. Postal Service returned 458 of them as not delivered to the address on the registration forms.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
September 8, 2017 1:33 pm

Do things like this actually come as a surprise to anybody?

TJF
TJF
September 8, 2017 1:45 pm

The only surprise is that the story came from the Washington Times instead of some non-MSM blog.

David
David
  TJF
September 8, 2017 5:56 pm

Washington Times, you are thinking of the Washington Post owned by Bezos. The Times goes right a bit.

TJF
TJF
  David
September 9, 2017 9:03 am

I know, but it is still surprising.

Iconoclast421
Iconoclast421
September 8, 2017 1:54 pm

Better bookmark this for 2020 to compare how many do it again. We know they aint gonna fix it but at least we can see if it got better or worse.

Dutchman
Dutchman
September 8, 2017 2:14 pm

There is NO VOTER FRAUD. (Hillary blew me to post this comment).

Brian
Brian
  Dutchman
September 8, 2017 2:25 pm

Better cut it off, cause you’re now infected with the psychotic bitch virus.

Dutchman
Dutchman
  Brian
September 8, 2017 2:49 pm

Damn!

How is walking a tight rope and getting a blow job from your grandma the same? In both cases you don’t want to look down.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
September 8, 2017 3:42 pm

It’s not just voters…….

Headline: More opioid prescriptions than people in some California counties

http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article171895237.html

Card802
Card802
September 8, 2017 3:57 pm

This must be fake news because main stream media is still holding firm, “There is no evidence of voter fraud.”

Of course if you pulled the cops off the road you could make the same claim there are no speeders if you ain’t looking, but that’s none of my business.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
September 8, 2017 5:53 pm

How do we know it wasn’t Trump voters who didn’t foray from MA into NH to vote? On buses chartered by Putin, of course.

Dave
Dave
September 8, 2017 7:10 pm

Problem is that students can vote in NH with an out of state license and don’t ever have to register a car or get an NH license. That could account for most of those votes.

AWB
AWB
  Dave
September 9, 2017 2:59 am

Yeah, right, and also conveniently ignores the bussing aspect of the story.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
September 9, 2017 6:56 am

If you lived here you’d know just how easy it is to cast a bogus ballot. High trust societies fall easy victims to people who have no trouble with breaking the law. If you met the ladies who check ID’s at the voting place it would really sink in.

But then again there was no evidence of voter fraud.

Boat Guy
Boat Guy
September 9, 2017 5:42 pm

Orange jumpsuits with name and number on the back so honest citizens can sling mud or excremite as they go by for all involved

MarshRabbit
MarshRabbit
September 9, 2017 7:29 pm

“Though Mr. Jasper’s findings don’t prove those accusations…..Nowhere in the letter do the departments suggest that out-of-state people voted illegally.”

So far, no evidence of a crime has been presented. There are several reasons a voter registered in New Hampshire could have an out-of-state license: New Hampshire resident attending college out- of-state, out-of-state resident attending college in New Hampshire choosing to be domiciled in New Hampshire rather than their home state (see New Hampshire law below), New Hampshire resident living in a retirement facility or nursing home out of state.

College Students:
“New Hampshire election law provides college students with a special privilege when determining where they register to vote. A college student in New Hampshire may choose as his/her voting domicile, either the domicile he/she held before entering college or the domicile he/she has established while attending college.”
http://sos.nh.gov/nhsos_content.aspx?id=12816

Acceptable Voter ID in New Hampshire:
Notice that first on the list in “driver’s license issued by ANY state….”

“II. (a) A valid photo identification shall show the name of the individual to whom the identification was issued, and the name shall substantially conform to the name in the individual’s voter registration record; it also shall show a photograph of the individual to whom the identification was issued. The photo identification shall also have an expiration date that has not been exceeded by a period of more than 5 years , except that a voter 65 years of age or older may use an otherwise qualified form of identification without regard to expiration date, and except that student identification cards shall comply with the date requirements in subparagraph (5). The following forms of identification bearing a photograph of the voter shall satisfy the identification requirements of paragraph I:
(1) A driver’s license issued by any state or the federal government.
(2) An identification card issued under RSA 260:21, RSA 260:21-a, or RSA 260:21-b or a nondriver’s identification card issued by the motor vehicles division, department, agency, or office of any other state.
(3) A United States armed services identification card.
(4) A United States passport or passcard.
(5) A valid student identification card if:
(A) The card is issued by:
(i) A college, university, or career school in New Hampshire and approved to operate or licensed to operate in New Hampshire.
(ii) A public high school in New Hampshire.
(iii) A nonpublic high school in New Hampshire accredited by a private school accrediting agency that is recognized by the department of education.
(iv) Dartmouth College.
(v) A college or university operated by the university system of New Hampshire or the community college system of New Hampshire.
(B) The card has either an expiration date or an issuance date that has not been exceeded by a period of more than 5 years, except that, at all elections prior to September 1, 2018, student identification cards without a date of expiration or issuance shall be accepted.
(6) A challenged voter affidavit in accordance with subparagraph I(c).
(7) A photo identification not authorized by subparagraphs (1) through (6) but determined to be legitimate by the supervisors of the checklist, the moderator, or the clerk of a town, ward, or city, provided that if any person authorized to challenge a voter under RSA 659:27 objects to the use of such photo identification, identifies the reason for the objection in writing, and states the specific source of the information or personal knowledge upon which the challenge of the photo identification is based, the voter shall be required to execute a challenged voter affidavit as if no identification was presented.
(b) In addition to the forms of photo identification authorized in subparagraph (a), the identification requirements of paragraph I may be satisfied by verification of the person’s identity by a moderator or supervisor of the checklist or the clerk of a town, ward, or city, provided that if any person authorized to challenge a voter under RSA 659:27 objects to such verification, identifies the reason for the objection in writing, and states the specific source of the information or personal knowledge upon which the challenge of the photo identification is based, the voter shall be required to execute a challenged voter affidavit as if no verification was made.
(c) The secretary of state shall post the lists of educational institutions provided by the commissioner of the department of education under RSA 21-N:4, XI on the department of state’s website, and otherwise shall make such lists available to local election officials.”
http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/lxiii/659/659-13.htm

So as usual, nothing to see here folks, just move along (the only thing missing was how George Soros as to blame, lol)

Jake
Jake
September 10, 2017 12:40 am

There are 144 voter registrations for every 100 people of voting age in the US. Not registered voters but people of voting age. When some jurisdictions decided to remove the dead, people who moved, people who otherwise appeared not to be real, whatever, the Obama Justice Department would sue them or drag them into court to stop it.
Other than those people being vote stealing Prog filth, I have no idea why anyone could for any reason oppose cleaning up the rolls which is mandated by federal law to begin with. Or why they could oppose Voter ID?