The Changing Role Of The Jew: From George Washington To Eisenhower

Below is a letter from President George Washington, delivered in 1790, to a Hebrew congregation in Rhode Island. Note the following:

–1) Historians consider this letter one of the principle documents from our Founding Fathers which clarifies the meaning of religious liberty espoused in the Constitution.

–2) G. Washington’s letter was his response to a letter received from the Jewish congregation. That letter follows Washington’s letter.  G. Washington wrote the letter because Jews were denied citizenship in some colonies and early states.

–3) Notice how G. Washington refers to the Jews: … “Children of the Stock of Abraham”.

–4) Notice that he does not make reference to a “Judeo-Christian” heritage.

–5) This isn’t important, but it is somewhat ironic, or is it humerous, given today’s Trumpian environment …. but G. Washington mentions Jews helping make America “great”! (Although he does leave out “again”.)

The link to both documents, here;

https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Washington/05-06-02-0135

Washington’s letter follows:


Gentlemen.

“While I receive, with much satisfaction, your Address replete with expressions of affection and esteem; I rejoice in the opportunity of assuring you, that I shall always retain a grateful remembrance of the cordial welcome I experienced in my visit to Newport, from all classes of Citizens.

“The reflection on the days of difficulty and danger which are past is rendered the more sweet, from a consciousness that they are succeeded by days of uncommon prosperity and security. If we have wisdom to make the best use of the advantages with which we are now favored, we cannot fail, under the just administration of a good Government, to become a great and a happy people.

“The Citizens of the United States of America have a right to applaud themselves for having given to mankind examples of an enlarged and liberal policy: a policy worthy of imitation. All possess alike liberty of conscience and immunities of citizenship It is now no more that toleration is spoken of, as if it was by the indulgence of one class of people, that another enjoyed the exercise of their inherent natural rights. For happily the Government of the United States, which gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance requires only that they who live under its protection should demean themselves as good citizens, in giving it on all occasions their effectual support.

“It would be inconsistent with the frankness of my character not to avow that I am pleased with your favorable opinion of my Administration, and fervent wishes for my felicity. May the Children of the Stock of Abraham, who dwell in this land, continue to merit and enjoy the good will of the other Inhabitants; while every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, and there shall be none to make him afraid. May the father of all mercies scatter light and not darkness in our paths, and make us all in our several vocations useful here, and in his own due time and way everlastingly happy.”


The letter from the Hebrew Congregation to G Washington follows:

“Permit the children of the Stock of Abraham to approach you with the most cordial affection and esteem for your person & merits—and to join with our fellow Citizens in welcoming you to New Port.

“With pleasure we reflect on those days—those days of difficulty, & danger when the God of Israel, who delivered David from the peril of the sword, shielded your head in the day of battle: and we rejoice to think, that the same Spirit who rested in the Bosom of the greatly beloved Daniel enabling him to preside over the Provinces of the Babylonish Empire, rests and ever will rest upon you, enabling you to discharge the arduous duties of Chief Magistrate in these States.

“Deprived as we heretofore have been of the invaluable rights of free Citizens, we now (with a deep sense of gratitude to the Almighty disposer of all events) behold a Government, erected by the Majesty of the People—a Government, which to bigotry gives no sanction, to persecution no assistance—but generously affording to All liberty of conscience, and immunities of Citizenship: deeming every one, of whatever Nation, tongue, or language, equal parts of the great governmental Machine: This so ample and extensive Federal Union whose basis is Philanthropy, Mutual Confidence and Publick Virtue, we cannot but acknowledge to be the work of the Great God, who ruleth in the Armies Of Heaven and among the Inhabitants of the Earth, doing whatever seemeth him good.

“For all the Blessings of civil and religious liberty which we enjoy under an equal and benign administration, we desire to send up our thanks to the Antient of Days, the great preserver of Men—beseeching him, that the Angel who conducted our forefathers through the wilderness into the promised land, may graciously conduct you through all the difficulties and dangers of this mortal life: and, when like Joshua full of days and full of honour, you are gathered to your Fathers, may you be admitted into the Heavenly Paradise to partake of the water of life, and the tree of immortality”


ANALYSIS

If I were to make this post into a “Stucky QOTD”, I would ask; “Since America’s Founding Father welcomed the Jew with respect and open arms … shouldn’t we do likewise?” However, I don’t want to goad the eevul anti-Joo faction of TBP (Yojimbo, Zara, bb, AWB, etc.) to further heap an epileptic knee-jerk barrage of name calling upon me. So, pretend I didn’t ask.

Let’s now look at G. Washington’s phrase, Children of the Stock of Abraham” vs the modern idea of our “Judeo-Christian” heritage.

—- –

1) The term ‘Judeo-Christian’, as generally used today, probably originated in the 1930’s by George Orwell to promote religious tolerance and solidarity with the Jews, who were experiencing various tribulations and discriminations in many places around the world.

2) In the 1940’s, the National Conference of Christians and Jews adopted the term.

3) Around 1940, the very influential theologian Reinhold Niebuhr adopted the term into mainstream theology. He believed Christianity owed it’s roots more to “Hebraic” than from “Hellenic” influences.

4) In 1952, in a speech before the Freedoms Foundation, President-Elect Dwight D. Eisenhower declared, —  “Our form of government has no sense unless it is founded in a deeply felt religious faith, and I don’t care what it is. With us, of course, it is the Judeo-Christian concept but it must be a religion that all men are created equal.” — Judeo-Christianity is now politically mainstream.

See below for reference to the above four points.

http://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/legal-and-political-magazines/judeo-christian-tradition

5) In 1983 the Supreme Court ruled (Marsh v. Chambers) that it was constitutional for state legislatures to have a paid chaplain conduct prayers “in the Judeo-Christian tradition” … which a circuit court subsequently used  to deny a Wiccan priestess the right to pray because her faith was not “Judeo-Christian.” 

6) You would think that Jews would welcome this designation as it incorporates their very small minority position into the vastly greater Christian majority, thus giving them much needed credibility. You would be wrong. Jews don’t like the phrase because it is loathsome to even consider that Judaism evolves into Christianity. According to the link below, Jews believe that — “the phrase does little more than paper over the long history of Jewish-Christian animosity, subordinating Jewish distinctiveness to ecumenical public relations.”

www.religionnews.com/2011/01/23/hating_on_the_judeo-christian_tradition/

—– –

Well, history is always beneficial in understanding “how we got here”. However, it must first answer the question, “What does it MEAN?” Let’s try to do so now.

1) At first glance, the term ‘Judeo-Christian’ seems to make perfect sense since the Old Testament is the very source of Christianity, and Christ himself was a Jew … in addition to many other shared Biblical stories/narratives. However, hidden in plain sight is the fact that the phrase attempts to combine two very disparate things. Without getting into a heated theological debate, I hope we can all agree that both faiths have a fundamentally opposing claim to ‘truth’ — such as, the divinity of Christ — which makes the two faiths irreconcilable. So, why combine the terms? It makes about as much sense as saying we have a “Muslim-Christian” tradition. Jewish theologian Eliezer Berkovitz states the issue quite succinctly when he wrote —  “Judaism is Judaism because it rejects Christianity, and Christianity is Christianity because it rejects Judaism.”

2) “Judeo-Christian” was initially coined to highlight American religious pluralism. This attempt failed because one must not only consider which group(s) are included, but also those who are excluded. Clearly, the term excludes Muslims, and other religions. George Washington was much more “progressive” and inclusive by referring to the Rhode Island congregation as “Children of the Stock of Abraham” — which encompasses all three major monotheistic religions.

3) Perhaps the term is simply used to generally mean “Western values”. But, that only leads to more ambiguity. Stamped on our coins is the phrase “In God We Trust”. But, whose God? The Jewish one? The Christian one? Both? The Muslim one?  And what about the masses of non-religious … are they included, or excluded? Or, perhaps the phrase is most often used by Christians as ammunition in their battle against “secular humanism”?


CONCLUSION

Although the phrase “Judeo-Christian” has been in the American lexicon for almost a century, as you can see from the above, we are still on a slippery slope as to its true meaning, or intent.

Nevertheless, I submit that initially the general meaning was theological, combined with historical overtones. In fact, the greater population probably still views it in those terms.

However, I further submit that The Powers That Be — from Eisenhower to the Supreme Court — have altered the meaning as a purely political one … possibly for their own nefarious reasons (which I leave to your imagination as to what they might be).

As such, I submit that if one desires to remove the Jewish Influence (if it exists) from American society that we remove “Judeo-Christian” from our consciousness and vocabulary … and simply replace it with “Christian”. (Or, for the non-religious, nothing at all.)

This solution removes much ambiguity. Instead of mindlessly parroting a well known phrase, and by replacing it with something true and good which True Patriots can rally around  — other than the ambiguous ‘Making America Great Again’ — perhaps, at last, it can even help heal this nation.

Lastly, to those good folk who disagree with the myth (another word for ‘story’) of a “Judeo-Christian” society, please consider the words from George Orwell;

Shalom

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Author: Stucky

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Maggie (for Stucky and all playboy bunnies everywhere)
Maggie (for Stucky and all playboy bunnies everywhere)
October 11, 2017 10:57 am

You make me chuckle. “Without getting into a heated theological debate, …”

Maggie
Maggie

Oops… forgot to change my teaser moniker.
And, again… I am “first responder.”

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Maggie
October 11, 2017 11:24 am

All of your comments should end with “Stop resisting. Stop resisting!”

kokoda - AZEK (Deck Boards) doesn't stand behind its product
kokoda - AZEK (Deck Boards) doesn't stand behind its product
October 11, 2017 11:01 am

“Since America’s Founding Father welcomed the Jew with respect and open arms … shouldn’t we do likewise?”

Already in place – the Jew already controls the finances of the U.S. Gov’t.
What more can we do?

Two, if by sea. Three if from within,thee
Two, if by sea. Three if from within,thee

If anyone controls our finances, it was laid before them by our representatives.

Two, if by sea. Three if from within,thee
Two, if by sea. Three if from within,thee
October 11, 2017 11:11 am

Any phrase that can eliminate the age old “Blame Game” and thereby prevent the slaughter of innocents, works for me.
An aside, I wonder how much ghost writing Alexander Hamilton did for his president.

BenlShamir
BenlShamir
October 11, 2017 11:56 am

Historiography is a thicket. The actual relations between groups is the briar itself. If Jew and Gentile elite alike cannot cease their predation on the common gentile, they will all be destroyed from internal conflict or external opportunism. No history lesson will prevent this. No understanding transcends the will to survive. We wandered millennia without a homeland. That we would impose such a fate on those who saved us from extermination is a sin G-d will not forgive.

Rob
Rob
October 11, 2017 12:11 pm

I re-iterate. Send Stucky to washington. One term only of course but he would be much better than what is currently living under that rock.

Chatham Police
Chatham Police
  Stucky
October 11, 2017 2:09 pm

Dear Mr. Stucky,

Our investigators have analyzed the crime scene, and found along with your confession here on this board, that you are quite likely guilty of raccoonicide, a crime punishable by up to six years in Maggie’s rabbit pens.

Please turn yourself into the nearest constabulary for questioning and processing.

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Maggie
Maggie
  Chatham Police
October 11, 2017 5:49 pm

Stop resisting… is that right?

nkit
nkit
  Stucky
October 11, 2017 2:36 pm

Dear Abbey, Dear Abbey
I have to confess
I murdered a coon
Now my wife’s in distress
It was minding its business
Out in the Koi pond
So I crushed its little skull
And now I need a bail bond
Signed, Coon Killer

Coon Killer, Coon Killer
You have no complaints
You are what you are
And you ain’t what you ain’t
So listen up Killer
And listen up well
For killing that coon
You’re going to Hell
Signed, Dear Abbey

nkit
nkit
  nkit
October 11, 2017 3:54 pm

Dear Abbey, Dear Abbey
We moved off the grid
Moved out in the country
And we kicked out our kid
We grow our own garden
And raise rabbits for meat
I’ve killed so many bunnies
I have to sell lucky feet
Signed, Bunny Thumper

Bunny Thumper, Bunny Thumper
You have no complaints
You are what you are
And you ain’t what you ain’t
So listen up Thumper
And listen up well
For thumpin’ those bunnies
You’re going to Hell
Signed, Dear Abbey

Maggie
Maggie
  Stucky
October 11, 2017 6:01 pm

My friends around here (that drink ice cold beer on the river in the woods on the lake, said Blake) say that raccoon is very tasty. Now, I’m not sure about whacking the little buggers with my ball peen hammer, but I do know their fur is far more valuable than white rabbits.

I like nkit’s poems, too. Although, I am now on the horns of a dilemma… I have three bucks and one doe. Two must die, but which two? Scrapper may get a reprieve, IF the mating yesterday produces a litter. I’ll “check” Shirley in a week or so.

Stop resisting! Iska? Is that the right placement?

BL
BL
  Stucky
October 11, 2017 7:26 pm

Stucky- That’s masturbating, raccoon murdering and porn-loving…….yep, you are unelectable. But I would come out of my voter boycott to pull the lever for you over the asshats we have to pick from.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  BL
October 12, 2017 12:36 am

BL, I agree. I don’t generally vote anymore, but I would come out and vote for Stucky.

Ralsballs
Ralsballs
October 11, 2017 12:23 pm

I think what Stucky is trying to say, basically, is that he would not only welcome, but enjoy, being sodomized passionately by Harvey Weinstein, and we, collectively, as Americans, should enjoy our daily ass blasting from our Jewish overlords. Hell, George Washington wrote them a letter 200 + years ago, they must be ok? Sounds reasonable.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Stucky
October 12, 2017 12:38 am

Actually, I think the Constitution and Bill of Rights are — not quite irrelevant — but should I say fraudulent, since the Committee overstepped its boundaries. I think we should go back to the American Confederacy and we’d all be much happier. Give the screws to Washington. At least states are more manageable.

TC
TC
October 11, 2017 12:47 pm

The flowery speech about free people is mildly ironic in that the Jewish enclave there in Rhode Island was probably the most active hub of the slave trade to America. Washington was powdering their taints because they were very wealthy and very influential.

Diogenes
Diogenes
October 11, 2017 1:10 pm

Who gives a fuck what George Washington said. He was a mason (crypto-jew). He is just kissing the ass of his masters. Also Washington was a statist thug just google “The Whiskey Rebellion.
Yours in Wotan,
Diogenes

Gayle
Gayle
  Stucky
October 11, 2017 3:21 pm

We expect persons from the 17th century to have 21st century sensibilities and sensitivities.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Gayle
October 12, 2017 12:47 am

Gayle, that’s exactly right. And that’s exactly what the SJWs think. But you simply can’t attribute the way we think today to the way people thought in the past. And of course, with lack of communication, modes of thinking took a longer time to change in the past.

The past had its own mindset, just as we do today. In the future, who knows the way people will think. I just hope it reverses course from the way it’s heading now.

Diogenes
Diogenes
  Stucky
October 11, 2017 3:36 pm

Did you read about the Whiskey Rebellion? Washington lead the troops against the protesters. Also this is old and well known history, not newly revised.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Diogenes
October 12, 2017 12:57 am

That’s because Washington, like Alexander Hamilton and James Madison, was a Federalist, meaning a Statist, with all power invested in the federal government, as compared to George Mason, Williams Grayson, Richard Henry Lee and Patrick Henry, who were anti-Federalists, meaning against central government.

Maggie
Maggie
  Diogenes
October 11, 2017 1:49 pm

I read that he made a fortune in”approved” liquor investment after that.

BUCKHED
BUCKHED
October 11, 2017 1:11 pm

Washington wrote the letter because he knew the Jews could get stuff for wholesale .

TC
TC
  BUCKHED
October 11, 2017 1:14 pm

Yeah, mostly Negroes.

Patrick...
Patrick...
October 11, 2017 1:21 pm

Sorry to be off-topic, but…

…..Does anyone have Jim Quinn’s e-mail address?

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
  Patrick...
October 11, 2017 1:36 pm
Zarathustra
Zarathustra
  Stucky
October 11, 2017 1:41 pm

Yeah but I don’t even know what “Jewish people” are. It ain’t straightforward like japs, for instance. Netanyahu is a polish jew. His dad (an ardent zionist) changed their family name so it would sound hebrew but in actuality they are ashkenazi khazar jews and have no ancestral linkage to the hebes of old whatsoever. Therefore he has no fucking claim on Palestine either. Most israelis are exactly like that….european colonizers and wanna be hebes. I wouldn’t like them even if they didnt treat the natives exactly (or worse) than the nazis treated them. Therefore fuck ’em.

That’s my story.

starfcker
starfcker
  Zarathustra
October 11, 2017 5:43 pm

Netanyahu grew up and went to public school in Pennsylvania, Cheltenham High School, not far from Quinn.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  starfcker
October 12, 2017 12:40 am

Never knew that bit of information. Learn something new every day.

TC
TC
  Stucky
October 11, 2017 4:38 pm

Hey congrats on finally getting out from under that thing. Hopefully they preserve the hardwood floor you toiled over.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Stucky
October 12, 2017 1:02 am

Stucky, glad you got the place sold. I know that’s a load off your mind.
I hope they sell fast, or they might be left with a mortgage if they can’t flip it fast enough. Who knows when the housing market will tank again.

Patrick...
Patrick...
October 11, 2017 3:06 pm

…..Thank you very much, Zarathustra…

Paul
Paul
October 11, 2017 4:23 pm

Another important article with yet another ‘letter’ George Washington wrote about the Illuminati. What George and the rest have to say in this article greatly reinforces the truth about the origins of Zionism and modern Israel and “Jewish people” that I posted earlier before this post but apparently you guys will not allow it to be posted… Why was it blocked? This all reveals the REAL purpose for the creation of the United States and modern Israel. Every quote in this article is sourced back to its original source:

Dire Warnings From Past U.S. Presidents and Other High-Profile Leaders About an “Invisible Government” That Runs the U.S. With “No Allegiance To the People”

Two, if by sea. Three if from within,thee
Two, if by sea. Three if from within,thee
  Paul
October 11, 2017 11:39 pm

You people infuriate me.
It seems you and so many others spend your days reading horseshit websites as you’ve linked, instead of actual books that can place the snippets from those various letters written, in their true context.
You all incessantly go through the same slice of pie to get to the center and declare yourselves well read. Garbage.
Trillions of tax dollars spent on libraries and school bonds but you’d never know it. Half truths and seven minute videos are the tools for the present day fools.

Ross
Ross
October 11, 2017 4:35 pm

I can’t even imagine why it matters…21st Century Christianity and Judaism is overwhelmingly a mostly human-secularist endeavor (Do gooding and Joel Olsteen like sentiments) with a smattering of the God thing. Only the Muslims in any large degree practice the tenets of their ‘faith.’ All that praying and fasting…ect.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Ross
October 12, 2017 1:05 am

That’s why I keep to the Christianity before 300 A.D. Men themselves are destroying the Christian religion.

Uncola
Uncola
October 11, 2017 5:54 pm

Isn’t saying “Judeo-Christian” like saying “Old and New Testament”, or perhaps, even, “biblical”?

That’s how I looked at it (from the perspective of language as opposed to connotation).

BUCKHED
BUCKHED
October 11, 2017 6:00 pm

Nkit’s inspiration : I like your version….I may sing your verses the next time I play this song .

nkit
nkit
  BUCKHED
October 11, 2017 6:11 pm

Thanks, BUCKHED…the possibilities are endless with that song…..
I’d be honored..

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  BUCKHED
October 12, 2017 1:14 am

That was funny.

BUCKHED
BUCKHED
October 11, 2017 6:02 pm

Stucky….this one’s for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9BRia7J9P4

Maggie
Maggie
  Stucky
October 11, 2017 6:20 pm

In Charles Dickens’ Tale of Two Cities, Sidney Carton is No. 23 of a multitude executed by the guillotine. “In the last act of the theatrical adaptation, ‘The Only Way,’ an old woman sits at the foot of the guillotine, calmly counting heads as they are lopped off. The only recognition or dignity afforded Carton as he meets his fate is the old woman emotionlessly saying ‘twenty-three’ as he is beheaded.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Maggie
October 12, 2017 1:18 am

Maggie, I love Charles Dickens. He’s one of my favorite authors. That was a good book, as were all Dickens books. Though, I have to say his good characters ended up being too good to be believable, but his bad characters were spot on. Just wish I could be as good as he was.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  BUCKHED
October 12, 2017 1:15 am

That guys is extremely talented. I like his stuff. Will be listening more to him.

BUCKHED
BUCKHED
October 11, 2017 6:53 pm

Stuck…I’m a huge fan of John Prine . He’s a under appreciated gifted song writer . I’ve written a few songs in his style over the years. One was called “Oops There Goes The Chance” . Part of the lyrics are below. It was written about a stoner friend from my college days.

Up in the morning and off to the kitchen
I light up a cigarette along the way.
I’m gonna’ have me a twelve ounce breakfast
Oops there goes the chance of doing anything today.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  BUCKHED
October 12, 2017 1:19 am

Very good lyrics, Buckhed.

Edit: Record something and let us hear it.

nkit
nkit
October 11, 2017 7:11 pm
Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  nkit
October 12, 2017 1:30 am

That’s a beautiful song. I hate the way older people seem to be shunted off my young people today, whether it’s living alone and their kids don’t call or into an assisted living home or a nursing home. I could never do that to my Mama. She’ll live with me until the day she dies. She’s already 86 and still lives in her home, and in terrific shape, but I know one day, she’ll have to live with me. And I won’t leave her in cold place. She’ll be looked after by me. She took care of me growing up, and I’ll take care of her to the end.

nkit
nkit
October 11, 2017 7:13 pm
BUCKHED
BUCKHED
October 11, 2017 11:06 pm

This one is for SSS….absent sometimes but not forgotten.

ubercynic
ubercynic
October 11, 2017 11:28 pm

I’ve always thought that Jews are hated actually much more for their virtues than their vices. That said, are there Zionist Jews conspiring (a more accurate word, perhaps, would be colluding) to do a lot of really bad shit? Absolutely no doubt. Is that the root cause of the problem? If we could just take out those evil Zionists, everything would be all bunnies and kitties? Absolutely no way. Zionism is not the problem, it is merely a symptom – albeit particularly nasty (NB: 18MB PDF) – of the problem. The problem is the State – the idea that it is legitimate and necessary for some individuals, anointed as the State and / or its agents, to do things that would, by common moral consent, be regarded as criminal if anybody else did them. Even if you could wave a magic wand and make all those Zionist scumbags disappear, if the fundamental issue of the State is not resolved, it would take about a New York minute for some other clan of sociopaths to hijack the State, and the intricate details and history of their esoteric we ranchers, you cattle doctrine will be just as irrelevant as those of the Zionists are now.

To address the OP topic directly, whatever its origin and original intent (so to speak) the term Judeo-Christian nowadays refers overwhelmingly to values / morals, most of which – and nearly all the benign ones – were derived from Judaism.

WRT the Orwell quote in the OP: I’d like to know the source. I’m inclined to think that, in context, it would be apparent that Orwell was using the word true ironically.

ubercynic
ubercynic
  Stucky
October 12, 2017 3:01 pm

Stucky:
First, I thank you for taking the time to respond so thoughtfully. I’m especially gratified that you get my point about Zionists – very few do.

What I was alluding to with benign values / morals is that the Judaic (and, so far as I know, every other theistic religion besides Christianity) concept of morality is, basically: God says, here’s the rules, obey the rules and you’ll be OK. Which is, in my view (for reasons that would take me too far afield to explain here – search ‘George H. Smith religious morality’ if you’re interested) problematic, even if the “rules” are sensible. Still, that is far less irrational and psychologically destructive than the Christian – which arguably should be called Paulist – doctrine: You can’t obey the rules – i.e. be moral – because you are evil by nature; you will be tortured for eternity unless you, in essence, apologize for your existence; and that you are, as George H. Smith puts it, “morally obligated to accept as true religious beliefs that cannot be comprehended or demonstrated.”

WRT TPTB and God: As I’ve said before, what people believe about God is their right and their business. But I also say that anyone who proposes coercion on the basis of God said this or God wants that should be required to go check it out with God personally, and be given immediate transportation – in .357 or larger, right between the eyes.

Penforce
Penforce
October 12, 2017 2:27 am

I used to sleep at the foot of old Glory
I used to awaken at dawns early light
To my surprise when I opened my eyes
I was the victim of the great compromise. John Prine

ottomatik
ottomatik
October 12, 2017 8:36 pm

Well done, the quality of the Jewish question posts are noticeably improving, on both sides. There were a number of gems in both the post and comments, thank you for the help in the endless search for truth