Florida’s Teacher of the Year Bluntly Writes WHY School Violence Is Out of Control

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Kelly Guthrie Raley has been teaching for 20 years and currently educates kids at Eustis Middle School in Lake County, Florida. Just last month she was named the 2017-2018 Teacher of the Year.

The day after the horrific shooting that took place at Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, she posted a rant on Facebook that has since gone viral. In the post, she talked about parental responsibility, compassion, and respect…and more than 823,000 people have “liked” the post and agreed with it, while more than 649,000 have shared it with others.

Here’s what Mrs. Raley had to say.

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Okay, I’ll be the bad guy and say what no one else is brave enough to say, but wants to say. I’ll take all the criticism and attacks from everyone because you know what? I’m a TEACHER. I live this life daily. And I wouldn’t do anything else! But I also know daily I could end up in an active shooter situation.

Until we, as a country, are willing to get serious and talk about mental health issues, lack of available care for the mental health issues, lack of discipline in the home, horrendous lack of parental support when the schools are trying to control horrible behavior at school (oh no! Not MY KID. What did YOU do to cause my kid to react that way?), lack of moral values, and yes, I’ll say it-violent video games that take away all sensitivity to ANY compassion for others’ lives, as well as reality TV that makes it commonplace for people to constantly scream up in each others’ faces and not value any other person but themselves, we will have a gun problem in school. Our kids don’t understand the permanency of death anymore!!!

I grew up with guns. Everyone knows that. But you know what? My parents NEVER supported any bad behavior from me. I was terrified of doing something bad at school, as I would have not had a life until I corrected the problem and straightened my ass out. My parents invaded my life. They knew where I was ALL the time. They made me have a curfew. They made me wake them up when I got home. They made me respect their rules. They had full control of their house, and at any time could and would go through every inch of my bedroom, backpack, pockets, anything! Parents: it’s time to STEP UP! Be the parent that actually gives a crap! Be the annoying mom that pries and knows what your kid is doing. STOP being their friend. They have enough “friends” at school. Be their parent. Being the “cool mom” means not a damn thing when either your kid is dead or your kid kills other people because they were allowed to have their space and privacy in YOUR HOME. I’ll say it again. My home was filled with guns growing up. For God’s sake, my daddy was an 82nd Airborne Ranger who lost half his face serving our country. But you know what? I never dreamed of shooting anyone with his guns. I never dreamed of taking one! I was taught respect for human life, compassion, rules, common decency, and most of all, I was taught that until I moved out, my life and bedroom wasn’t mine…it was theirs. And they were going to know what was happening because they loved me and wanted the best for me.

There. Say that I’m a horrible person. I didn’t bring up gun control, and I will refuse to debate it with anyone. This post wasn’t about gun control. This was me, loving the crap out of people and wanting the best for them. This was about my school babies and knowing that God created each one for greatness, and just wanting them to reach their futures. It’s about 20 years ago this year I started my teaching career. Violence was not this bad 20 years ago. Lack of compassion wasn’t this bad 20 years ago. And God knows 20 years ago that I wasn’t afraid daily to call a parent because I KNEW that 9 out of 10 would cuss me out, tell me to go to Hell, call the news on me, call the school board on me, or post all over FaceBook about me because I called to let them know what their child chose to do at school…because they are a NORMAL kid!!!!!

Those 17 lives mattered. When are we going to take our own responsibility seriously?

What do you think?

I would have loved for my children to have been in Mrs. Raley’s class because not only is it obvious that she really cares, but also that she has an abundance of common sense, something that has been notably absent in our politically correct school systems.

I raised my kids in much the same way Mrs. Raley refers to having grown up: with rules, curfews, and consequences for their actions. My girls weren’t totally sheltered – they saw violence on television and in movies – but we discussed it. I taught them empathy for other human beings and all creatures. They too, have had access to guns, and know how to use them, but I’ve never once been worried that they’d use them on another human being for any other reason than self-defense in a life-or-death situation.

Like every other parent, I now worry every time my daughters walk out to door to attend their college classes. Because, honestly, it can happen anywhere.

But I sincerely agree with Mrs. Raley.

Guns aren’t the problem. The current culture is the problem.

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Trapped in Portlandia
Trapped in Portlandia
February 20, 2018 11:29 am

A level-headed, clear-thinking teacher–how the hell did she get Teacher of the Year honors? On voting day the Marxists must have stayed home for May Day or some bullshit march.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Trapped in Portlandia
February 20, 2018 3:32 pm

Better yet, how does she make it in the indoctrination center errr…skool. Is she part of the education collective NEA.

And all this time I thought Parkland was a Dallas hospital.

A new trotskyite victim class…embittered “students”.

Anonymous
Anonymous
February 20, 2018 11:34 am

Obligatory comment regarding the demise of the nuclear family after the passage of no-fault divorce and the rise of the single mother.

Maggie
Maggie
February 20, 2018 11:34 am

Has her career survived the backlash?

rocky raccoon
rocky raccoon
February 20, 2018 11:37 am

And who drives the culture? The entertainment industry. Are you not entertained? The school victims are the gladiators in the USSA colliseum.

Gilnut
Gilnut
  rocky raccoon
February 20, 2018 11:59 am

No, critical thinking individuals drive a culture. Unfortunately our schools no longer produce critical thinking individuals. They produce exactly what our ‘owners’ want them to produce. Example: I was watching a TV show that my wife likes, Chopped (a silly cooking competition show, but hey she likes it so I partake occasionally). They had 4 children between the ages of 13 and 16 on the show. The host was asking questions and all 4 of the children answered affirmatively, and in unison for each and every question, including a question as to whether they always answered the same thing at the same time. My wife didn’t really notice anything until I pointed it out. The takeover is complete, until we take back control of our children’s education from GovCo, all is lost.

Anne
Anne
  Gilnut
February 20, 2018 4:58 pm

I too grew up with parents that taught us how to be responsible, kind, compassionate and values such as integrity, honesty and accountability for our actions. Oldest of 7 from a middle class family – actually Mom and Dad worried everyday how they were going to manage money – we all had house chores and yes we got an allowance or not when we did not fulfill our responsibilities. They did not have the money to give us everything that we wanted however we were loved and supported.

Bad behavior was never tolerated – my Father was originally a teacher and then became the Superintendent of our school – we saw him everyday visiting teachers classes etc. When I wanted to be a teacher 44 years ago he talked me out of it – he felt that the future of education was in jeopardy and that the Teachers union was too powerful as well he saw the behavior of parents who threatened lawsuits etc. He never acted on any of my teacher complaints – and he could have – he felt we had to learn the real world. He was so fight and so prepared me for the reality of the future of my – I became a CEO at 36 years old – thanks to everything that my parents taught me.
God Bless Ms. Raley!! Wake up America and get control of your children before it is too late.

mike
mike
  rocky raccoon
February 20, 2018 2:39 pm

Philosophy drives the worlds cultures.
Here are a few lectures from the 80’s that explained “why”.
http://www.peikoff.com/ford_hall_lectures/

An excellent overview of “why philosophy” and it’s future effects:
“Philosophy and the Real World Out There”.

Other lectures below that offer excellent background about school:
“Assault From the Ivory Tower”, then;

“Why Johnny Can’t Think”, then finally there was one there called;
“A Rational Curriculum”.

The opposite of what even the leading edge of what the mainstream thinks and enacts now.
And we thought schooling was egregious back then, before we even had John Taylor Gatto’s analysis of “why”: http://www.radio4all.net/index.php/program/50300

Whole squadrons of flocks of chickens are coming home to roost.

MoreWork
MoreWork
  mike
February 21, 2018 9:05 am

Thank you for the Peikoff link. What great resource.

Bilco
Bilco
February 20, 2018 11:44 am

Growing up in the America that once was. I was so lucky to have grown up that same way. Like so many others here at the TBP We can remember a different America while watching it go to s**t today. At the risk of sounding like a broken record……It is LIBERAL/PROGRESSIVE policies that have brought us to where we are today. I know I am preaching to the choir.

southeuropean counterpart
southeuropean counterpart
February 20, 2018 11:46 am

Real, striking teacher.
Only, it is more than a lot of people who will hear her words as a Navajo codetalker speech.
…how sad time.

Ammo
Ammo
February 20, 2018 12:24 pm

After what I would consider a successful teaching career, I decided to supplement my retirement with some substitute teaching in the same school district. Two years after this retirement I was assigned a long-term sub position that would last 2.5 months. Same teacher-same rules-same subject matter-same classroom–within 30 days I was getting visits from new administrator for my strict adherence to classroom rules and school policies, for my grading standards, for holding student accountable for their negative actions, and for allowing a student to use the classroom at lunch to meet with members of his authorized conservative club. I had to bring in the Pacific Justice Institute to protect the student from expulsion brought on by the feminist Nazi teachers for his conservative views. I decided to really test the waters of this liberal run school by placing on my desk a small 3×5 New Testament to see what the administration reaction would be when he learned I had one, which he did, but I never read it, never made reference to it, or touched it during the day. I got the visit, but he couldn’t touch me, I knew the rules of engagement, he didn’t.

I learned a lesson from that assignment… that I should embrace and support more those parents within my faith community who live by and who require their children to live by a higher standard as given by our Creator, which is no longer required within the powers to be…just look at the Congress, state legislature, FBI, CIA, DOJ, School Districts, media, Hollywood, no standards there………..
.KELLY RALEY, YOU NAILED IT!!

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
February 20, 2018 12:33 pm

I just spent five days in Texas. It’s the first time this northern boy has ever been there. I was struck by a few things:

People were polite, even in the big metropolitan area I was in. In fact, they weren’t just polite, they were friendly.

There was a culture. It was real and tangible and the natives, regardless of what racial background they came from, seemed to exude it to one extent or another.

The women mostly acted like women. They were warm (I love the accent) and welcoming and made me feel at home no matter where I was. The younger ones could flirt without being trashy. Mostly, young and old, acted like ladies.

It left me with an odd sensation – maybe it was hope – and sort of made me feel like I had actually come home. I can’t wait to go back and explore the state at a time when I don’t have to work.

Anyways, I think the point is there are more good people than bad and our cultures, they’re not dead yet – not by a long shot. And as long as people like Mrs. Raley are brave enough to speak their minds we can turn things around.

MAGA, MCGA and Make the West Great Again aren’t just slogans. They’re movements. The world is finally changing for the better, but this is just the start. I’m an optimist again.

Thanks, Texas. I’ll be back soon.

Francis

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
  Francis Marion
February 20, 2018 1:10 pm

It’s exactly the same here in Southern Arizona…People are friendly, honest, kind, and easy going…Wonderful place to live, as a result.

Rdawg the fascist
Rdawg the fascist
  pyrrhus
February 20, 2018 8:40 pm

You must be talking about Tucson or thereabouts. I lived for about a year and a half in Scottsdale. Almost without exception, the people I met in that town were rude, arrogant and solipsistic.

Sparrowhawk6
Sparrowhawk6
  Francis Marion
February 20, 2018 1:23 pm

Thanks Francis. You are one of the people who keep me returning to this site on a daily basis. My reading suggests we jointly inhabit the PNW. My location is near Portland and I USED to say some of the same things about this area. It appears some mass psychosis has taken over the minds of many of my neighbors, and dare I say, some of my friends.

My wife and I moved here from Texas in order to pursue her educational goals. Texas is a big country and I am glad you got a dose of the best of it. Texas is not all Yellow Roses however. The cultural tendencies that made the Lonestar State what it is are fading too. The ‘reconquista’ is a reality that a majority of the population at least agrees with, if they do not support it enthusiastically.

In Texas, Oregon, or anywhere else in this fair land, the culture we knew and grew up in has been overrun, and effectively destroyed. Historically, when all else fails, our kind resorts to war. I see no other way, except surrender, which will acknowledge but not change any of this. I am old, but I prefer action to fear and surrender.

Ivan
Ivan
  Sparrowhawk6
February 20, 2018 4:44 pm

Soros is a greater threat to Texas than REAL Mexicans.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
  Sparrowhawk6
February 20, 2018 8:31 pm

I’m a British Columbian so just a little north of you. If you’re coming here regularly then you know something important already: you’re not alone.

My feeling is keep your powder dry but don’t despair. It’s not too late to deweaponize immigration. If we do then the culture will settle and homogenize in each distinct region of the continent over time. It will likely never be “the same” again but it can still be great. We’re in the eye of a storm right now. Hold onto your shorts, stay alert, and enjoy the ride.

Done in Dallas
Done in Dallas
  Francis Marion
February 20, 2018 2:54 pm

I don’t know where you were, but Austin proper is mostly lost as well as North Dallas. My daughter has moved out to Ft. Worth and loves it. I have found it to be probably the friendliest big city have been to. I just have not found a way to live there and survive the commute into the Dallas mess.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
  Done in Dallas
February 20, 2018 4:01 pm

Goats go to heaven. Sheep go to hell.

FW

starfcker
starfcker
  Francis Marion
February 20, 2018 5:03 pm

Yawn. I’ll be impressed when I read an essay that contains the line, “the Negro, he no behave.” The guy who runs my shop just told me today at lunch that they sent his kid home for wearing a gray hoodie today. Gray hoodies not allowed. There are two codes, one for the normal (white) kids, and one for the hoodrats. The normal (white) kids are expected to follow every rule and regulation to the letter, including this one. The hoodrats don’t have to follow any, including violent behavior. He’s going in there tomorrow to raise hell. He’s not happy. And somebody should tell that dumb bitch that her union has as much to do with this whole problem as anybody else.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Francis Marion
February 20, 2018 7:43 pm

Foxy,just don’t get any ideas about those Texas girls.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
  TampaRed
February 20, 2018 8:18 pm

They talk sweet. Was gonna tell my wife she needs to up her game. Then I thought she’ll probably tell me I need to up mine. Can’t have that- I’m at full throttle already.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Francis Marion
February 20, 2018 10:33 pm

wives have an annoying habit of not seeing the humor in things that we do–

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
  TampaRed
February 21, 2018 9:49 am

Mine says she has a sense of humor, she married me after all.

nkit
nkit
  Francis Marion
February 20, 2018 10:53 pm

Rumor has it that you need to work on your game inside the opponent’s blue line, sloppy one-timers, I’m told…….Could be just a rumor…

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
  nkit
February 21, 2018 9:50 am

Not a rumor. You are old….

Stucky
Stucky
February 20, 2018 12:44 pm

I said the same thing in the opiod article a few days ago.

That this clamor from libfuks for the government to “DO SOMETHING” … and for blaming the crisis on anything or anyone other than the damned users is Pure Bullshit.

People not taking personal responsibility is a Key Component of our current cultural demise.

What a great teacher!

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  Stucky
February 20, 2018 8:32 pm

Stucky, you forgot to say I’d hit that!

Zulu Foxtrot Golf
Zulu Foxtrot Golf
February 20, 2018 12:59 pm
Hollywood Rob
Hollywood Rob
February 20, 2018 1:03 pm

This relates directly to HSFs last post about Jordan Peterson. He too promotes taking personal responsibility and doing your job. In the end, if some lunatic, who should be in a padded cell under doctors control – but isn’t, is coming down the hall shooting people what do you do? Well the answer is actually pretty damned simple and it amazes me that few school administrators have realized it. You close and lock the door and then you flip the teachers desk on end and shove it against the door.

In most school rooms that I have ever seen that would make the room impregnable.

No armed teachers. No armed government workers. No metal detectors. Just people doing the right thing which they have practiced with their students. Once the rooms are impregnable you can send in the armed government workers to remove the civil rights of the offender.

Yancey Ward
Yancey Ward
February 20, 2018 1:03 pm

I hope she has good luck finding her next employer when the present one fires her.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Yancey Ward
February 20, 2018 1:08 pm

She just needs a little re-education.

mike
mike
  Anonymous
February 20, 2018 3:07 pm

🙂

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
  Yancey Ward
February 20, 2018 1:11 pm

She has tenure, so the worst they can do is re-assign her.

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
February 20, 2018 1:35 pm

This teacher is well meaning so I’m not going to rip into her. Instead I’ll direct my ire at the school system itself. Why haven’t we shutdown these high schools yet? I know it’s a radical idea to blame school themselves but what purpose outside of free daycare are they serving?

Is it a mental health issue? Or maybe, public schooling should end after the 8th grade and students should be either entering a job vocation program, a college prep program, a military prep program (maybe full time ROTC?). Why are we still under the delusion we need public schools past the 8th grade when it’s obvious after the 8th grade is when students start practicing their self-autonomy and can make choices for themselves? Post-internet era students really don’t need to stay in public school this long. Maybe the way we’ve set up public school to be a one-size-fits-all solution is the actual problem?

mike
mike
  Stephanie Shepard
February 20, 2018 3:06 pm

Shut them down? Unthinkable!!!

The people that built them found early Americans 94% literate and ungovernable – in 1818! Couldn’t have that! They needed to make drone employees for their factories, then offices; then killbots that would do what they’re told for the future WCCE (world corporate communist empire) Army. Adults were too fixed in their – independent – ways, so the rulers had to take the kids away.

Post-internet era? Heck – 1800’s era children didn’t need to delay adulthood either. Isn’t dependency and obedience the purpose of school?

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
  mike
February 20, 2018 3:13 pm

Nice sarcastic rant. I’m merely pointing out the narrative about “needing” public schooling is collapsing because of the internet. As far as I’m concerned the 20th century was an anomaly in history. It’s not sustainable.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stephanie Shepard
February 20, 2018 3:24 pm

Now their mantra is ” what about socializing?”. The irony is that most can not communicate with out the aid of a cell phone.

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
  Anonymous
February 20, 2018 5:39 pm

The socializing argument is lack luster. Not all socializing is a good thing. Kids in the public school system socialize with all kids in their district this including kids from broken homes. This includes kids who’ve got a parent in jail, a parent hooked on drugs, a parent who’s an alcoholic, a parent who abandons their kid, a parent who has a low IQ, a parent who’s a stripper etc.

Ivan
Ivan
  Stephanie Shepard
February 20, 2018 4:51 pm

My God, the voting bloc, the pensions, the administrators, the useless degrees…the, the educational collective NEA….AAGGGGHHHH

It can’t be eliminated..the children!!!

prusmc
prusmc
  Stephanie Shepard
February 21, 2018 7:13 am

Good point! But the impluse is to extend the school day, extend the school year and extend the number of years of schooling from 15 (head start, pre-K, Kindergarten and then 12 more) to 17.

Maggie
Maggie
  Stephanie Shepard
February 21, 2018 2:18 pm

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Peaceout
Peaceout
February 20, 2018 1:43 pm

Mrs. Raley’s rants mirror the discussion my wife and I had the other night after listening to a bunch of liberal’s hyperventilating on the ‘news’. My wife works in a high school and has to deal with the snowflakes and their parents every day.

About a third of the parents are what she calls helicopter parents, they are constantly hovering over their children trying to do everything for their Jimmy’s and Susie’s. The staff ignores the helicopter parents and forces the children to deal with their own issues by directly interacting instead of sitting back letting them have their parents solve the problems. These kids of ‘cool parents’are of course perfect and can do no wrong. By the time these kids leave home and enter the real world they will not have the coping skills to survive and compete in society without the protection and involvement of their helicopter parents. It is a shame.

Another one third of parents can care less what is going on in their kids lives. The kids are basically on their own and are starving for some kind of structure and for people to care about them. They become lost. Once they become lost it is almost impossible to bring them back. When the school calls their homes, assuming anybody ever picks up at the other end, the tone and lack of concern is always the same. They just don’t give a shit, but the kid will probably get beat or at least yelled at because the school called and bothered them. Pretty sad.

The remaining third is what we would stereo typically consider being the normal all America family unit. Stable homes with rules, polite, considerate kids. Concerned but non-evasive parents. Good moral compass all around. These are the kids that are self sufficient conscientious achievers. Good people. No problems with kids or the parents, they take care of their business.

Schools are a top to bottom cross section of society and local communities in general. You get a little bit of everything coming together under one roof and influences good and bad cross boundaries between the groups. It takes a huge effort to bring all these people together and be inclusive, structured and ultimately provide an environment for success. The last thing that is needed is the underlying pressure and concern of being sitting ducks in a school shooting situation.

Mrs. Raley’s opinions I think are shared by vast majority of people in this country that care about what happens to their children when they leave their home in the mornings to go to school. Her opinions should also matter to the vast majority of parents who are not involved in their kids lives or are overly involved, cool parents.

Will society evolve back to the mean any time soon? Doubtful, which is sad.

kokoda the Deplorable Raccoon and I-LUV-CO2
kokoda the Deplorable Raccoon and I-LUV-CO2
  Peaceout
February 20, 2018 3:45 pm

Did you mean non-invasive parents instead of non-evasive parents?

Not Sure
Not Sure
  Peaceout
February 21, 2018 7:38 am

My wife also teaches and observes roughly the same percentages you have referenced. The one thing I might add is when dealing with the 66% special needs ones, the remaining 33% suffer in not getting a proper education, with all the distractions that have to be handled in a politically correct environment.

JLS
JLS
  Not Sure
February 21, 2018 11:10 am

My kids are in an excellent school district (State College, PA, a college town). Gifted students are given special atention, and no motivated child is left behnid.

rhs jr
rhs jr
February 20, 2018 1:55 pm

First they came for the AR-15s…but it’s not “the guns” stupid. Leftist could use bombs, trucks, poison, knives etc. The 17 dead kids were sacrificed by TPTB to create this crisis and the MSM frenzy to ram more gun control laws. You think a school of liberal kids “spontaneously” bused themselves to Tallahassee and WDC to hold mass protest for more Ignorance on Campus? Are the Congressmen and reporters working in gun free zones without plenty of armed guards? Are leftist nuts attacking police stations, army posts and prisons which are Have Gun Zones? That shows Cops have higher IQs than Educators doesn’t it. This is not the first time the FBI was warned about a leftist nut and went Passive Terrorist (ie, purposely let the shooting happen). It was not just because the FBI is now naturally full of leftist Affirmative Action dumbells because FBI Directors Mueller and then Comey “Obamanized” the FBI. The good Cops were Purposely NOT promoted and kicked out while leftist lickspittle were purposely hired and promoted (ref whistle blower report on Youtube “Greg Hunter Weekly News Wrap-up 2.16.18). How long will we allow school kids in gun free killing zones be sacrificed to advance the Elite Oligarch’s goal of disarming Americans?

mike
mike
  rhs jr
February 20, 2018 3:26 pm

“… MSM frenzy …” Hmmm. I wonder who pays the Chattering Classes to chatter that?

A minor glimmer of hope was noted in the “adult fairy tale” Q posts – remember the giant nationwide antifa riots last November 4th? Me neither. The insolvency of evil will hopefully make this communist hysteria go the way of the 3rd Reich. While we’re waiting for the 4th to die.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
February 20, 2018 1:55 pm

Or it’s something completely different.

Was Nikolas Cruz An MK-Ultra-Programmed Shooter Under Hypnosis?

rainbird
rainbird
February 20, 2018 2:19 pm

These days modern American culture resembles an open air insane asylum.

Uncola
Uncola
February 20, 2018 2:23 pm

And – what is really amazing is how the poor kid was a victim of “common identity theft” with “$2,900 in fraudulent charges” on his credit card (according to the former military intelligence officer he was living with) and yet still had sufficient funds to purchase 10 rifles in the last year.

For being 19 years old and not knowing how to drive or run a microwave, he was just full of surprises, no?

In my opinion, gun control was not the problem in this allegorical car wreck. It was a lack Cruz control (or vice versa?) .

Boat Guy
Boat Guy
February 20, 2018 3:46 pm

Bravo for the Teacher of The Year , now quick lock in your retirement before the MSM and the Politically Correct goon squad barrages you with charges of hate speach and creating an unsafe learning enviorment .
I recall a story a shipyard fellow employee shared when his dad was Called to the school for his “troubled behavior” . Dad left work from the steel mill showed up at the school in dirty coveralls , he entered the office in a take charge no bull shit manor . The professional educaters were shockingly surprised with his direct approach . Dad looked at son and said “STAND UP NOW” he did ! Dad then turned and asked the teacher and Proncipal , What did he do ? The professionals explained and dad heard enough ! Turned to son and looked him in the eye and asked is this all true ? My buddy knew to be straight and honest with the 2 word answer : YES SIR !
With that dad picked son up by the lapels of clothing with feet dangling body slamed him into a wall and. Said this will never happen again will it ? The 2 word reply “NO SIR”
Dad turned to the educators and said he will not give you any more trouble ! The shocked educators said we did not expect you to do something like that ! Dad replied : Then what the Fuck did you call me for !
Dad was a former screaming eagle 101st surrounded at Bastone and was a strong loving parent but was never willing to tolerate adolescent bull shit . My friend admits he deserved it and when other guys continued screwing off and up he grew up . Today his dad would be in sensitivity and anger management classes or jail , he would have probably preferred jail !

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Boat Guy
February 20, 2018 9:55 pm

boatguy,
approximately 15 years ago a guy i know was at hunting camp w/a couple of his buddies and their teen sons–
middle of the night there comes a banging on the door–it was a warden w/the boys in tow–
they had decided to go out with the beer they’d snuck from the dads and get themselves a deer by the moonlight–
dad turns to son & asks if it’s true–“yes sir”–bam,he knocked the kid on his ass–
guess who spent that night in jail?
luckily he got a judge who was old fashioned and it got thrown out but it still cost him time and $–

Thunderbird
Thunderbird
February 20, 2018 4:05 pm

This Florida teacher is talking about the loss of values in our culture; which translates into the loss of our culture. The comments here speak of values long lost over the last 20 years or more. How and why has this happened? The how can be explained when we look at the Laws of the land and what they have led us to. The why can be explained when we look into ourselves.

The schools in this country are run by the Federal Government. This is why the schools have administrators. Administrators make rules and regulations under Administrative Statutes. These rules and regulations are binding and cannot be challenged by the teachers or parents.

Let’s set one thing straight here. Administrative Law has no values; only facts. In fact there is no values. So values are an obstruction to Administrative Law. This is why Christian values have been banned in the school system. Christian values are an abomination to Administrative Law. This includes prayer because prayer goes beyond sense experience into the spiritual realm. In addition Faith, Love, and Hope including repentance and forgiveness; because these are all values, have no place in Administrative Law. Fact and Value are irreconcilable in administrative law. So the “how” of our loss of values can be explained in our acceptance of Administrative Law across the land.

The why is much harder to explain because it involves those behind the scenes which some call the deep state. For those who can sense it we are in a spiritual war. This war is for the control of our very souls. Man has potential that is yet to be discovered in ourselves. This potential was put there by higher mind. We have to go within ourselves to discover this potential.

Our politicians say we are a country governed by the “Rule of Law,” Administrative Law! A law of no values, only fact. Mind you fact can and does contain lies. Only a person with values cultivated in them can spot the lies. This is why Administrative rules and regulations are used against us to eliminate our values.

The only way out of this dilemma is for those awake to this program of divesting the people of their values or keeping values from being learned is to help wake up those who are asleep.

The US Department of Education has to be abolished. That is a good start. Get the Administrators out of the schools. People who see what is happening have to speak up.

Oilman2
Oilman2
February 20, 2018 4:48 pm

CONSEQUENCES –
The problem can be boiled down to kids having no consequences. The same holds true for a lot of things these days, comments come to mind, as there aren’t any consequences for being rude or callous among many commenters.

Without consequences, social or physical, there are no boundaries, no limits. Everything becomes acceptable, and then becomes the ‘new normal’.

Helicopter parents need consequences as well. When SWMBO and I were younger, she (swim coach) had some helicopter parents that were actually threatening their own kids during a swim meet. I kicked them out, nearly forcibly, and told them they could watch their littles from beyond the cyclone fence. After the meet, I told them they would be most welcome, but if I ever heard them threatening their children with grounding or anything else for their performances, they would again be escorted beyond the fence.

That consequence forced a change in behavior without me doing much else.

Ever heard of 4 tardies and then a swat or a Saturday detention? Consequences, but those are no longer allowed as they are ‘excessive’.

Fighting? The school admin suspend BOTH involved – because there cannot be unequal consequences, regardless of who started the fight. It’s like the “everyone gets a medal” thing in sports, only reversed. When I was growing up, it was easy to know who started it – just ask the other kids, because they don’t have a dog in the hunt. And we didn’t get suspended – we got swats or detention. No free holidays from school like today’s kids – whose consequence is that they get to stay home and watch TV or play video games, AND get to make up the work they missed.

Consequences are what allow people to LEARN. Whether they are adult or juvenile, consequences are what shape social norms. These are no longer allowed, and so we have what we have.

Ivan
Ivan
February 20, 2018 4:52 pm

My God, the voting bloc, the pensions, the administrators, the useless degrees…the, the educational collective NEA….AAGGGGHHHH

It can’t be eliminated..the children!!!

BB
BB
February 20, 2018 5:13 pm

There is no hope , not the way things are now.The violence is only going to get worse Especially during and after our coming Economic tribulations. Our only hope is to break apart as a nation and then for some regions to go back to the basics.God ,Sound money and personal repsonability with alot of hard work for good measure.
I’m right ,the rest of you are wrong , now get over it.

Rdawg the fascist
Rdawg the fascist
  BB
February 20, 2018 9:05 pm

Say, speaking of personal responsibility: did you ever pay for your previous surgery, or did Mr. and Mrs. Public get stuck with that one?

pedrothemerciless
pedrothemerciless
February 20, 2018 6:49 pm

Funny, when I was a kid the things I bought and paid for I took much greater care for than the stuff my parents gave me. #Humannature. #Values. Worked early. Strawberry and lemonade stands, paper route then hourly work when old enough. Vast majority of kids don’t do that now and as a result don’t respect people, property and the investments made to acquire those things. Instead, it’s rote memorization to pass the standardized tests, no culture taught, definitely no values other than the “I have 2 daddies variety”. No cause and effect. No logical reasoning. Just indoctrination really.

The solution is radical, yes. But so is the problem. Eliminate all public education and the taxes that go to support it. A) People will value most (and take responsibility for) what they DIRECTLY pay for. B) Far lower taxes and thus more time for parents home with kids. Yes, even the shitty ones will help. C) Child-support payments from absent dads/moms go directly to paying for such education. No money, fine, assist with vouchers so society doesn’t go to hell-in-a handbasket (like today).

When you offload your most important responsibility as a human – your kids – to unelected, unaccountable and (not all) fascist people to raise them for you, well – you get what we got. One more thing – your kids, your responsibility. That means for every major crime your kid commits, you do the same time. Unpopular, probably. But so is the Tide Pod Challenge and school killings.

jamesthedeplorablewanderer
jamesthedeplorablewanderer
February 20, 2018 7:02 pm

My wife took the lead and started homeschooling our two after the local school systems failed them. I am so glad she did.

Thunderbird
Thunderbird
February 20, 2018 8:41 pm

We must realize that the administrative laws, rules and regulations we are forced to live under are created under faulty motives not tested by rational logic nor supported by sound empirical evidence. Many of these laws, rules and regulations have led to unintended consequences and yet there is no mechanism to correct or abolish these laws by the people these laws affect. Surely not the administrative courts.

We have to find a way to challenge these insane laws. Demonstrations don’t work. Violence doesn’t work. Letters and emails to our leaders do not work. This is because many people do not yet see the faulty motives behind these laws.

These laws have broken the educational system of this country because this law interferes with our values. It does not allow people to do what is necessary to create harmony. And because this law cannot reflect upon itself to see it’s flaws and make corrections it continues to do damage. It makes automatons out of the people that enforce it.

These laws have no value. Without values there is no purpose in life. Without purpose there is no obligation. Without obligation there is no self worth. Without self worth there is no happiness.

These laws are destroying our culture. We have to wake up if we want to live and rid ourselves of this oppressive law system. Common law has value in it. Our constitution is common law. Why has the Supreme Court of the land departed from it?

Rdawg the fascist
Rdawg the fascist
  Thunderbird
February 20, 2018 9:04 pm

Violence doesn’t work? Alas, it’s practically the only thing that does, unfortunately.

Anonymous
Anonymous
February 20, 2018 10:00 pm

She seems like a very good teacher but she’s unable to think logically. These school shootings are planned and executed by the CIA using MKUltra techniques. William Cooper wrote about it a long time ago. It takes a lot of time and effort to wake up. Most sheeple are not inclined to do it.

nkit
nkit
February 20, 2018 10:55 pm

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BB
BB
February 20, 2018 11:27 pm

Mad Dog Meathead ,all my bills are paid !!!But that’s not what Mad Dog is asking is it ?

Ken31
Ken31
February 21, 2018 12:01 am

Mental health issues arise when a bunch of leftist feminist women “teacher” indoctrinate boys and punish them for exhibiting any masculinity whatever.

The internal conflict caused by this overt and subversive oppression and repression can not be overstated.

When are we going to have that discussion, ms teacher?

ZombieDawg
ZombieDawg
February 21, 2018 5:17 am

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