Nikolas Cruz: ‘We had this monster living under our roof and we didn’t know’

Via MSN

a man and a woman sitting on a table: Kimberly and James Snead, the family that let Parkland, Fla., school shooter Nikolas Cruz live in their home, become emotional on Saturday, Feb. 17, 2018, as they recount the day of the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.

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PARKLAND, Fla._Nikolas Cruz was immature, quirky and depressed when James and Kimberly Snead took him into their Parkland home. But he was pleasant and seemed to be growing happier, they said.

How the 19-year-old turned into a killer still baffles them.

“We had this monster living under our roof and we didn’t know,” Kimberly Snead told the South Florida Sun Sentinel in an exclusive interview Saturday. “We didn’t see this side of him.”

“Everything everybody seems to know, we didn’t know,” James Snead said. “It’s as simple as that.”

Cruz still lived with the Sneads on Wednesday when he walked into Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School with an AR-15 rifle and killed 17 people – the worst school shooting since Sandy Hook.

The Sneads’ son had asked whether his friend could move into their home last Thanksgiving. Cruz’s mother, who had adopted him, died of pneumonia Nov. 1, leaving him without parents. He stayed briefly with a family friend in the Lantana area but wanted to move on.

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The Sneads quickly agreed – though they realized he was extremely depressed about his mother’s death.

Five days before the shooting, Kimberly Snead took Cruz to the office of a therapist she has been seeing to deal with her grief over her dad’s death. Cruz said he was open to therapy but didn’t like medication. He took a business card and was figuring out what his health insurance would cover.

James, 48, is a decorated army veteran and a military intelligence analyst who served stints in the Middle East between 1988 and 1996. Kimberly, 49, is a neonatal intensive care nurse who cares for premature and ill babies.

They told Cruz there would be strict rules in their home.

“I told him there’d be rules and he followed every rule to the T,” James said.

The couple both grew up around guns and are comfortable with them, but they insist on gun safety.

They made Cruz buy a locking gun safe to put in his room the day he moved in. Cruz had a handful of guns, including the AR-15 and two other rifles that Snead said would be considered assault rifles. Cruz, a hunter, also had knives, BB guns and pellet guns.

Snead thought he had the only key to the cabinet but has figured out Cruz must have kept a key for himself. The family kept their own rifles, bought after a burglary a couple of years ago, in a separate locked cabinet.

They told Cruz he needed to ask permission to take out the guns. He had asked only twice since November. They said “yes” once and “no” once.

Cruz’s mom seemed to have cosseted him.

“He was very naive. He wasn’t dumb, just naive,” James said.

He didn’t know how to cook. They had to show him how to use a microwave. He didn’t know how to do his laundry and also had to learn to pick up after himself.

He didn’t drive but bought a bicycle and rode it to work at a nearby Dollar Tree.

The Sneads had raised their own three boys and jokingly called the process of teaching Cruz “Adulting 101.”

They insisted he enlist in adult education classes run by the school district and drove him to school each day. He didn’t have much time to himself.

He seemed to be doing well and wanted to be an army infantryman. He was excited when an army recruiter visited school recently.

So far as they know, Cruz wasn’t particularly close to any of the victims and they don’t know of any resentment he might have had against any of the people who were murdered. They have no clue why he did it.

The night before the massacre seemed just like any other, they said.

Cruz had some odd eating habits. He quietly put a chocolate chip cookie in his steak and cheese sandwich. He went to bed around 8 p.m., which wasn’t unusual.

They said they were sure he was bullied; he was the kind of kid that would attract the attention of a bully.

He badly wanted to have a girlfriend and seemed lonely, they said. They don’t know anything about rumors they’ve since heard about a breakup with a girl, stalking or fighting.

They also saw no signs of animal cruelty. They are animal lovers, with two dogs and six cats. He’d have been kicked out if he was mean to their animals. Cruz seemed to love their pets.

On Wednesday morning, Cruz told them he didn’t need a ride to school: “It’s Valentine’s Day and I don’t go to school on Valentine’s Day,” he said.

Cruz had a “boxer’s fracture” in his right hand after falling on a step in their house about three weeks ago. They now think he removed the cast on his hand, the second he’d had, the day of the shooting. He’d also removed the first cast.

Kimberly last saw him around 10 that morning before she left to run errands. He said he was going fishing and was gone when she returned. She went to sleep because she was supposed to work a night shift that night.

Cruz sent their son a few texts that day. In one, he asked what classroom the boy was in. He said he was going to see a movie.

Later he texted he had “something important” he wanted to tell the teen. Then he wrote: “Nothing man.”

They have since figured out those texts were sent during the Uber ride Cruz took to the murder scene. His last text to their son, as Cruz pulled up at the school, said “Yo.”

They think Cruz moved out of the home of his late mom’s friend in Lantana because of tension about his guns and a possible misunderstanding about money.

Cruz told them he stood to inherit at least $800,000 from his deceased parents. Most of the money would come when he turned 22, he said. The Sneads have since seen paperwork they think supports the claim he was going to be very financially comfortable.

Cruz thought the family friend in Lantana was stealing money from him but the Sneads suspect she was innocent and he was just a victim of common identity theft. They reported about $2,900 in fraudulent charges on his debit or credit card.

Around 2:30 p.m. Wednesday, their son called sounding panic-stricken. He was safe but had heard shots fired on campus. He helped classmates flee by climbing a fence to neighboring Westglades middle school.

Snead told his son to walk to Wal-Mart and he’d come get him.

As Snead drove there, a SWAT commander called his cellphone and asked where his son Nik was. Told him it wasn’t his son and he didn’t know where he was.

As he kept driving and put two and two together, he became terrified and called the commander back. Snead told the cop the last he knew Nik was home alone with Kimberly: “I need a police presence at my house. Go make sure my wife is OK.”

Snead called his son to say he needed to check on mom first and drove home: “I was fearing for her life.”

Kimberly was sleeping because she was supposed to work the night shift that night. Law enforcement banged on her door with guns drawn, yelling: “Put your hands up.”

When they asked where her son was, she assumed something terrible had happened to her son but soon realized they meant Cruz. They searched the house but already had Cruz in custody elsewhere.

After an emotional reunion of husband and wife, they were brought to Broward Sheriff’s headquarters to be reunited with their son. They later realized he was being questioned by detectives in case he was involved. Investigators quickly figured out he was innocent.

As they waited, Cruz was led in to the building, handcuffed and wearing a hospital gown, surrounded by deputies.

Kimberly tried to run at him, James held her back.

“Really, Nik? Really?” she yelled at him.

“He said he was sorry. He apologized. He looked lost, absolutely lost,” said James. “And that was the last time we saw him.”

Visit the Sun Sentinel (Fort Lauderdale, Fla.) at www.sun-sentinel.com

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JS
JS
February 18, 2018 1:52 pm

MK Ultra payback for draining the swamp

Ivan
Ivan
  JS
February 18, 2018 2:28 pm

YES

Maggie
Maggie
February 18, 2018 1:52 pm

Is so very strange, isn’t it?

“He said he was sorry. He apologized. He looked lost, absolutely lost,” said James. “And that was the last time we saw him.”

starfcker
starfcker
February 18, 2018 2:14 pm

He put two and two together? They just don’t sound that surprised to me. I’ve got a buddy who has a son obsessed with guns and killing. They used to pay me to take him on Saturdays and just try to get through to him a little bit. I pushed him towards the military. Gave him some goals, and showed him that there were careers that involved the interests that he had. This Cruz kid didn’t get there in time. That’s probably all it would have taken. The kid I know is doing great. He’s been a Ranger now for a couple years, and is in the school right now for Green Beret, he told me they have to pick a field, and his is going to be medic. Think of that, saving instead of killing. The kid comes from a strange household, his mother’s a whack job, his dad is a total beta. He could have been one of those school shooter kids real, real, easily. He was 15 or 16, and he had a table in his room covered with knives and firearms of all types. I think they were afraid to tell him no. They tried to medicate him a lot of times, but to the kids credit, he refused. Probably the only thing that kept him from snapping

Anonymous
Anonymous
  starfcker
February 18, 2018 2:25 pm

That is a great anecdote.

Maggie
Maggie
  starfcker
February 18, 2018 2:33 pm

Also, there are some elite career fields that will not allow someone who has been in Ritalin or other antidepressants for long term treatment in… at least there once were restrictions of that nature in place.

BB
BB
February 18, 2018 2:22 pm

Lesson to be learned .Never take in strangers !!You Never know what you are getting .

unit472/
unit472/
February 18, 2018 2:24 pm

I was curious about his financial situation but, if true, he was well taken care of by his adoptive parents. Glad they never will know what the lout they raised did.

Stucky
Stucky
February 18, 2018 2:48 pm

“Everything everybody seems to know, we didn’t know,” James Snead said. “It’s as simple as that.”

Really? How can you not know … anything? Then I read this ….

“James, 48, is a decorated army veteran and a military intelligence analyst …”

Explains everything.

Maggie
Maggie
  Stucky
February 18, 2018 3:14 pm

Oxymoron upon oxymoron. Military with intelligence. Intelligence with Analysis.

Double banged.

Stucky
Stucky
February 18, 2018 2:52 pm

Anyway, way more info in this article about this creep than I need to know. No fuks to give.

I’d like to see just ONE more article about him. This one … “Nikolas Cruz Executed”.

Westcoastdeplorable (formerly Westcoaster)
Westcoastdeplorable (formerly Westcoaster)
  Stucky
February 18, 2018 8:44 pm

You know, Stucky, you might be onto something. And this is in Florida, so maybe they’ll dust off old “Sparky” their in Starke and we can rejoice to the lights dimming when they sock it to him!

MadMike
MadMike
February 18, 2018 2:55 pm

Sometimes the answer is “SHIT HAPPENS”.

Gloriously Deplorable Paul
Gloriously Deplorable Paul
February 18, 2018 3:10 pm

In most cases a tragedy isn’t the result of one mistake/misstep/failure. Most are the result of several cascading events. Breaking only one link in the chain could prevent it.
Sometimes the chain is broken, sometimes it isn’t.

starfcker
starfcker
  Gloriously Deplorable Paul
February 18, 2018 3:36 pm

Great comment, Paul

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
February 18, 2018 3:27 pm

Pretty sure I read somewhere he said he was hearing voices.

Unbelievable
Unbelievable
February 18, 2018 3:48 pm

From the article (which was not bizarre at all):

_____

Snead was a former military intelligence analyst.

Cruz was extremely depressed about his mother’s death.

He [Cruz] was very naive.. … he didn’t know how to cook. They had to show him how to use a microwave. He didn’t know how to do his laundry….

He [Cruz] didn’t drive but bought a bicycle…

Cruz had a handful of guns, including the AR-15 and two other rifles that…. would be considered assault rifles.

They think Cruz moved out of the home of his late mom’s friend… because of tension about his guns and a possible misunderstanding about money.

Cruz told them: “It’s Valentine’s Day and I don’t go to school on Valentine’s Day”

Cruz seemed to love their pets.

Cruz had a “boxer’s fracture” in his right hand after falling on a step in their house about three weeks ago. They now think he removed the cast on his hand, the second he’d had, the day of the shooting.

Sneads suspect …. he [Cruz] was just a victim of common identity theft. They reported about $2,900 in fraudulent charges on his debit or credit card.
____________

Nope. Nothing strange about that article at all; regarding a former (decorated) military intelligence analyst allowing a depressed, and exceedingly naive, 19 year old (from a troubled background, victimized by identity theft, with broken bones in his fist, who can’t run a microwave or drive a car, who ditches school to go fishing or to the movies whenever he wants) having a handful of guns, including an AR-15 and two other assault rifles in his room .

How unfortunate it was for a troubled and extremely naive high school kid to outwit a former decorated military intelligence officer by making a spare key to the gun safe in his room that was full of assault weapons.

Oh well. Shit happens. Bad luck frowns on us all from time to time. At least the crazy kid loved their pets.

I’m sorry, but even in their photo above, they look like parodies.

starfcker
starfcker
  Unbelievable
February 18, 2018 6:44 pm

exactly

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Unbelievable
February 18, 2018 11:55 pm

Crisis actors? Are they going to move out and leave without a trace?

Thunderbird
Thunderbird
February 18, 2018 6:05 pm

Story seems strange.

TC
TC
February 18, 2018 6:36 pm

It was reported that cops had been to his house a zillion times. These people didn’t know? Previous house then? Son didn’t have any idea the kid was a fucking wack job?

Zulu Foxtrot Golf
Zulu Foxtrot Golf
February 18, 2018 7:53 pm

There is a fucking reason it is called a boxer’s fracture lol. Either this article is a testament to how ignorant those two are or it is a complete sham. Either way this whole situation reeks of failure at just about every opportunity to mitigate the eventual outcome.

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
February 18, 2018 8:03 pm
Uncola
Uncola
February 18, 2018 9:00 pm

This article is posted on Drudge, so it’s getting widespread traction.

The more I think about it, the more these lines seem contrived in the piece (even more so than the “they also saw no signs of animal cruelty”) :

Five days before the shooting, Kimberly Snead took Cruz to the office of a therapist she has been seeing to deal with her grief over her dad’s death. Cruz said he was open to therapy but didn’t like medication.

Either:

1.) The Messengers want the public to know that Cruz was not on medication five days before the shooting AND he didn’t like taking medication,

– OR –

2.) Cruz truly didn’t like taking medication.

If it’s the former, the Messengers are spinning to remove the emphasis from the medication in order to place the blame on guns.

If it’s the latter, I wonder why?

Uncola
Uncola
  Uncola
February 18, 2018 9:15 pm

Either way, attending a naked drunken dwarf-throwing contest, while on high on acid, would be less weird than the above article.

Maggie
Maggie
  Uncola
February 18, 2018 9:23 pm

As the mother of a young man who once had friends that might have been recommended for sheltering a night or two, I can assure you there would have been no separate gun case provided a young man I barely knew.

Really bizarre.

starfcker
starfcker
  Maggie
February 18, 2018 10:09 pm

Comment of the day, Maggie. Common sense is not that common

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
February 18, 2018 10:04 pm

Las Vegas Shooter Stephen Paddock – MK Ultra

I am sure this means nothing.

No it’s just coincidence that these shooters have mental problems.

TampaRed
TampaRed
February 18, 2018 10:15 pm

nowhere in the article does it say whether or not these people talked w/the people he left to move in with them–i’m betting that they did not–
my guess is that he left because his mom’s friend was either disciplining him or insisting that he get professional help–

Jeannie
Jeannie
February 19, 2018 12:21 am

Guess I’m in the minority on this one. Having taken in more than one of my kid’s friends for various reasons, I look at this couple as simply trying to help a troubled kid. Maybe they weren’t “qualified” or capable of giving that help. How much could you expect them to accomplish in a couple of months? Sad…..no good deed goes unpunished.

Unforgiving
Unforgiving
  Jeannie
February 19, 2018 9:51 am

Do you think helping a troubled kid is letting him have assault rifles in his room when he can’t even run on microwave? But Mr Snead was a decorated military intelligence analyst? Good deeds my ass. Sheer stupidity are complicity is is more accurate.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Jeannie
February 19, 2018 10:57 am

jeannie,
when you took in your kid’s(presumably minors) friends,did you talk to the adults in their lives b4hand?

Unforgiving
Unforgiving
  Jeannie
February 19, 2018 12:31 pm

The typos in my above comment were the result of using my speakerphone in the absence of my glasses. Regardless, my point is this: Don’t let compassion become gullibility. At the same time, neither let cynicism become callousness. Skepticism of the facts is the right modus operandi during these times (IMO). And debate is a good thing.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Unforgiving
February 19, 2018 3:28 pm

that’s ok un,we just thought it was a bloody mary morning for you–

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
February 19, 2018 1:41 am

I have two close friends that adopted kids in the last ten years. One adopted a young boy. The other adopted three siblings about 9, 7, 4 yo.. Both were assured they had not been abused sexually etc. Once formal adoption was complete the discover files, lots of files proving that was a lie. The one boy that was adopted is 15 now and has been an amazing transformation. His biggest problem seemed to be drug use by mom while pregnant and mild neglect. One incident of suspected sexual abuse by a stranger.

The other three kids are absolutely broken. Adoptive parents have devoted their lives to these kids. They’ve undergone training on their own dime to learn how to care for them. Therapy for all is a constant. They have definitely improved but these kids scare me. They were even abusing each other. Parents eventually decided to home school for numerous reasons. They continue to improve but I have my reservations.

Country Boy
Country Boy
February 19, 2018 10:10 am

P L E A S E, Stop repeating the BULLSHIT L I E about Sandy HOOK. NOBODY DIED at SANDY HOOK. NO BODIES, NO AMBULANCES, NO BLOOD. TOTAL HOAX, Nothing but a FEMA Drill, with Crisis ACTORS. The Feds have paid out over TWO MILLION in “GRANTS” to those COMPLICIT, in this RUSE, just at the State level, forget the bribes paid to those in the Area, to go along with the LIES.

Zulu Foxtrot Golf
Zulu Foxtrot Golf
February 20, 2018 12:48 pm

One cannot help but wonder if all of this is by design or just incredible coincidence?

http://browardschools.com/News-And-Events/News/BCPS-and-Community-Partners-Sign-Collaborative-Agr#.WotcDiMrIUs