McCain, when a Lieutenant Commander in the U.S. Navy was a Navy pilot (they call themselves aviators). July 29, 1967 while on the deck and in his plane on the carrier U.S.S. Forrestal he managed to screw up procedures (officially denied and covered up by him and the Navy and also even promoted on Wikipedia if you care to look–reason to follow). He did a smart ass punk attention getting trick by doing a “wet start” up of his jet.
When a pilot wants to be a wise ass or show off, this type of engine start creates a large startling flame and lots of surprise noise from the rear of a jet engine on start up–this was no accident. This and the large subsequent electrical surge and apparent (incorrect and against policy) weapon arming (by the pilot) caused the launching of a powerful Zuni rocket across the carrier’s deck hitting other parked planes (photo below) that were packing 1,000 high-explosive pound bombs. The subsequent massive explosions, fire and destruction went several decks below and nearly sunk this major 82,000 ton U.S. aircraft carrier.
This stunt and aftermath caused the death of 134 sailors and seriously injure (blow off arms legs, cause blindness and burns to another 161 sailors) and took the ship off the battle line for extensive repairs. Any other Navy pilot causing this type of death and destruction the Navy would have raped him and he would probably still be in the brig. Why not McCain? Well, first with many powerful connections this “little infraction” was covered up by the Navy (our most politically involved/connected service by the way).
You see his grandfather was a famous FOUR STAR Navy admiral and his dad was at the time of the incident was a powerful Navy FOUR STAR admiral and McCain graduated from the Navy Academy. So the old boy Navy tradition cover his ass network went into high gear immediately; and make no mistake, it does exist and it did for him.
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The whole story is BS…
As Much as I hate McCain and know he is a Tratior, I love the truth more.
Truth is, they changed protocol five days before that happened, The pig Tail to the Zoony Pod, and the safety pin should have been done on the launch pad as it had been done. Higher ups changed that to save time. The wind worked the safety pin out, then you only had one safety But it was by passed due to them plugging in the pig tail. Had it still had the one safety then it never would have happened. They had Armed Ordnance on the planes when they transferred power creating a surge, and it was nothing but an accident waiting to happen. It wasn’t even off McCain’s Plane, It came off Pilot Jim Bangots plane. McCain was there but he helped to save another pilot!
This was wrote to discredit him for the Obama/McCain Elections, by the Left and Now picked up by the Right! And if it is void of the truth then it is a lie!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drXW4QZVHNI
Again, this film?
Fake News. Fake unfounded, and Fake… McCain should sue your ass for Libel.
I don’t think the McCain family or the government would want information to come about this during a lawsuit, especially when there’s a congressional opinion that McCain caused the accident, not to mention what could come out on his POW days.
vv you know it
McCain crashed 5 jets, plus was responsible for the Forrestal fire. Something made the plane behind McCain fire a rocket, which hit McCain’s external center fuel tank, and caused a fire. McCain panicked, and dropped two bombs into the fire.
Surviving crewmen of the USS Forestal and those who investigated the Forrestal fire case reported that McCain deliberately ‘wet-started’ his A-4E Skyhawk to shake up the guy in the F-4 Phantom behind his plane.
‘Wet-starts’, done either deliberately (the starter motor switch allowed kerosene to pool in the engine and give a wet start) or accidentally, shoot a large flame from the tail of the aircraft.’Wet starting’ was a common practice among young ‘hot-dog’ pilots.
In McCain’s case, the ‘wet-start”cooked off’ and launched the M34 Zuni rocket from the rear F-4 that punctured the Skyhawk’s fueltank, knocked the M-65 1000 lb bomb off it’s 500 lb rated mount, and touched off the explosions and massive fire.
When the carrier Oriskany came along side, and McCain was put in a chopper and whisked away. McCain was the only Forrestal crewman to be immediately transferred .I have a hunch McCain left for his own safety, because the crew wanted blood.
I read somewhere that McCains wife waited for him while he was a POW, then she got cancer and he dumped her. Sounds about right.
She waited for him, took good care of the kids, got into an accident. She lost 5 inches in height, when he returned home, McCain stated “ she wasn’t the same person I married “ He got another marriage certificate before he was even divorced. RAT!
He taught old Newt how it was done. Newt divorced his wife and married a staffer, I think, while his wife was dying. Congress Critters. Class acts.
Retire the Rino and make America great again!
The “good olde boy” network exists in all the services. Do you remember the B-52 that augured in at Fairchild AFB? The “pilot”, Lt Col Arthur “Bud” Holland – who shouldn’t have been “piloting” anything more than a dime store kite – was dangerous to the point people refused to fly with him. A friend of mine stationed at Fairchild quit the Air Force because of Holland and the Bomb Wing refusal to do anything about another pilot; a very, very dangerous pilot. In that vein, Lt. Col. Mark McGeehan, the 325th Bomb Squadron Commander, refused to allow any of his squadron crew members to fly with Holland unless he (McGeehan) was also on the aircraft. “Higher ups” – translation; “pilots” – rarely, very rarely will ground another pilot. After all, who runs the Air Force? Duh! Regardless the service, pilots will cover for pilots no matter how bad. As was the case of hanoi john so it was with Lt. Col. Holland. Here is a great link showing just how dangerous Holland was. Take particular notice of the low level high speed pass that jackass made and note his altitude: 30 feet. The only “good” thing, if there could be such a thing in a stupid tragedy like this is he never got the chance to kill a full crew of six ever again. Here is an excellent link on the Fairchild crash:
Getting back to hanoi john mccain, he was not only dangerous but as far as I’m concerned he will remain a traitor to all who knew him in the Hanoi Hilton. Google him and his POW years and what those who were there with hanoi john thought about him.
I’m well aware of Hollands antics. I saw him crash and die with my own eyes. One of his crew members that day was actually on his final flight that day. His family and friends were watching and waiting on the ground for his post landing ceremonial “hose down” before retiring from the USAF.
Travis AFB
history.com says accident lmao… and who shot it.. lol With the outbreak of the Vietnam War, McCain volunteered for combat duty and began flying carrier-based attack planes on low-altitude bombing runs against the North Vietnamese. He escaped serious injury on July 29, 1967, when his A-4 Skyhawk plane was accidentally shot by a missile on board the USS Forestal, causing explosions and fires that killed 134.
why did John McCain need a Presidential pardon if he did nothing wrong. Think about this and recall his ass.
https://sheriffali.com/tag/nixon-pardons-john-mccain/
I’m not a big fan of John McCain. I used to be, but certain incidents and statements by him since the election victory of Donald Trump have led me to change my opinion to unfavorable. That said, I will also say without fear of contradiction that Senator McCain was in absolutely no way responsible for the ignition of the ZUNI rocket that resulted in the Forrestal fire/explosions. There has NEVER been one scintilla of credible evidence presented that even remotely substantiates such a cruel accusation and/or scenario.
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Listen up Butt Holes and Ass clowns. I served for 39 months aboard the U.S.S. Saratoga CV-60, and we were Her Sister ship. The video of this playing out in real time was a part of our damage control training, and we watched it over and over.
I have no love for the traitor McCain, trust me on that. But that is due to his actions as a POW. McCain had nothing to do with the fire on the Forrestal. The flight deck video system of the Forrestal showed the whole incident in real time.
This story is the biggest pile of horse shit I have ever read from a so called “news source.” I am not even going to argue with anyone about this, because I saw what happened in real time.
I like it that there are a lot of morons posting here that don’t seem to be able to figure out that the Deepwater Horizon picture is not being portrayed as a picture of the Forrestal.
That in itself makes their comments here suspect, since they seem to lack common sense.
That is a photo of the burning Deepwater Horizon Oil Platform
Yeah, McCain’s daddy also “juiced” the deliberate attack on the USS Liberty, refused to allow the sailors on the stricken ship to testify, whitewashed official transcripts to point the “investigation” away from LBJ and the Israelis…yes, LBJ and Israel wanted the ship sunk with all hands lost in order to make their “false flag” operation work. Israel wanted the US to get involved in attacking Egypt as well as hiding evidence of an Israeli massacre of an Egyptian city…
As far as McCain, himself, he was known by his fellow POWs as “songbird” McCain, currying special favors from his captors.
In the late 1990s, McCain and Kerry both had legislation passed that prohibited the investigation of live sightings of American POWs still held by North Vietnam, Laos, and China. Despite live verifiable sightings, all further investigations were cut off. So much for never leaving anyone behind. It is FACT that only HALF of the POWs in Vietnamese camps were returned. The other half were to be used as “bargaining chips” and would be released once “reparations” were forthcoming. Reparations never came, our POWs fates were sealed.
anarchyst says:
February 24, 2017 at 8:16 am
Yeah, McCain’s daddy also “juiced” the deliberate attack on the USS Liberty, refused to allow the sailors on the stricken ship to testify, whitewashed official transcripts to point the “investigation” away from LBJ and the Israelis…yes, LBJ and Israel wanted the ship sunk with all hands lost in order to make their “false flag” operation work. Israel wanted the US to get involved in attacking Egypt as well as hiding evidence of an Israeli massacre of an Egyptian city…
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I will post an article about this at some point, probably the next anniversary of the USS Liberty incident. The question is did the Israelis retaliate against Admiral George Morrison, commander of the carrier USS America, who sent fighters to defend the Liberty, by murdering his son, Jim Morrison of The Doors. Stay tuned…
I served aboard CVA-31. The way I heard the Forestal story was different. I read that McCain was in the plane that was hit by a missile that was accidentally fired from another plane. I was also told that he was then assigned shore duty but refused because he wanted to continue flying. He was then sent to the Oriskany.
this story has been full circle many times and only a complete moron would ever believe it. Although I am not a fan of John McCain > These stories are just that stories. I was aboard the carrier Forrestal on july 29, 1967 at b1052[Vietnam time] when a zuni rocket accidently fire from a f4 phantom jet on the starboard side of the ship. It traveled across the the flight deck and stuck a A-4 Skyhawk Piloted by Lt. cdr Fred White ,Lt. Cdr john McCain’s plane was sitting next to it Both planes become ingulfed in flames, lt.Cdr fred White never made it out of his plane, lt. Cdr Mccain climbed out of his plane. jumped to the ground was running from the burning planes when the first 1000 lb bomb went off he was knocked to the ground and subsequently injured from bomb shrapnel and also received some burns Mr MCcain in no way caused that fire or explosion that did infact killed 134 men that day he was not transferred to the Oriskany by orders, he was offered shore duty,he refused it and volunteered to stay and continue flying over Vietnam mr MCcain was not perect by any means but he was not a traitor as was told I have met John McCain on occasion after he came home from Vietnam what he and others went through was terrible to say the least . hat being said I think it is time for him to retire before “all” his good service is overshadowed by his actions of present day
Damn this is like one of those cheesy horror movies, “The Thread That Wouldn’t Die”.
Amazing and your right Ed. Worse than
Attack of the Killer Tomatoes
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Isn’t it funny how everybody that says McCain didn’t start this incident, they always claim to either not support McCain or they don’t like McCain. Never fails. Always the disclaimer. They excuse their excuse before they write it.
Copied from another eye-witness on the Forrestal: Unread post18 Mar 2008, 19:06
I was on flight deck the morning of the fire and i can tell you that the story is a bunch of crap.McCains skyhawk was on the port side facing outboard, nothing but sea behind him. the zunni came from a f4 phantom parked on the starboard, the saftey pins were removed,as was common practice before launch,and was change after the incident. an electrical malfunction triggered the firing control. alot of good people died ,and it seems a shame some jerk can make up a political story to stir the sad memories. thanks for letting me vent.
It is impossible to fire missiles on the ground with the “weight on wheels” switch operating. You must be in the air to fire either guns, missiles or drop bombs. The pilot CANNOT override this switch. Must be done by the ground crew and that would not happen with the jet running.
This article is a tissue paper of lies. McCain did not cause this fire. My father, a decorated Naval combat pilot had flown over from the USS Oriskany the day this fire started. His retelling of how this fire started does not align with this article. One of the primary reasons for the magnitude of this fire was AN-M65A1 bombs, many dating back to the 1950’s, that exploded during the fire. The ordinance crews on the Forrestal wanted this ordinance removed from the ship. They were concerned that the bombs might detonate during the catapult launch. The author and his supporters dishonor the members of the Forrestal crew who died during the ensuing fire by repeating and spreading this pack of lies.
How does questioning how the fire started dishonor those who died trying to put it out in order to save their ship?
Either way McCain is pos who needs to join david rockafella in his new home in hell.
John McCain
A real life American Hero.
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There are pictures of McCain clamoring out of his A-4 and jumping down from the nose of the aircraft that day. He was mobile and not seriously hurt yet, while other men on deck rushed to fight the fires and dump ordinance and aircraft over the side, McCain was next photographed lounging in sick bay with only minor burns. A sick bay that desperately needed space for far more seriously injured sailors.
Wow, this is so technically and historically inaccurate. Only complete morons would believe this mess of an article…
Or you could be brainwashed by military propaganda and believe everything you’re told.
As usual many are throwing in their 2 cents for political reasons.
The proper position when you don’t know the facts, is to say that you don’t know the facts.
And I don’t know the facts.
RIP to all of the fine sailors and airmen that lost their lives that day
Listen. To all those that like to jerk the chains of those that know the facts, go back to playing your video games in your moms basement. You don’t have a fricken clue. You knuckleheads weren’t even fricken born yet. If you had a brain and researched it you would know the truth. Oh, you haven’t studied that RESEARCH subject in school yet. I weep for your generation and that of our countries future.
The truth is while I respect the fact that John McCain served his country, I do not respect his behavior as a POW nor as a Senator.
McCain lied and 134 sailors died…a sad day in history indeed.
Fake news about McCain.
All hail the thread that will never die!
How come mcStain toadies always pop up on this thread? Could it be that they are thin skinned? Anyone who still stands by this murderous cock gobbler needs to accompany him to the bone orchard.
Maybe it’s because we’re tired of conspiracy theorists who try to drag Senator McCain’s service through the mud.
Aw Frankie, you have a sad because people don’t say nice things about that war monger. Tuff shit. As for the service record are including his secret trip to Mid East in 2013. It is past time for that guy to be put out to pasture.
Maybe because people like Frank don’t have a clue yet on how the world really works. It’s who you know.
McStain pays them to show up. they are his only fans.
You know as a Us Navy sailor and ICman responsible for filming things like this I would love to be certain the claims were true.
Where are the FOIA reports? Where are the links to proof. It would not surprise me if this were true knowing how hot dog SONGBIRD McCain got shot down. Also knowing how he collaborated with the enemy as a modern day “Tokyo Rose”.
However without supporting evidence I cannot forward nor promote this claim.
Where is the PROOF???
The tread that won’t die. Maybe we can piss off some moar NeoCucks and get it to 500!
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This is just an opinion of a not very bright person who pays too much attention to other peoples opinions rather than forming ones own. The lack of accurate spelling, lack of proper grammar and easily checked non-facts are the first three hints. “Navy Academy?” Either that or this person simply likes to mess with everyone by spending his/her time mimicking ridiculous right-wing propaganda heard verbatim on Breitbart, which is actually kind of funny.
True McCain: (with supporting links)
▪ His plane was shot down over Viet Nam…. because he was ordered to break off the chase… and refused to obey orders.
▪ At the same time, both shoulders were broken… because he refused to follow instructions of how to protect self when ejecting from aircraft.. ( lack of medical treatment allowed the broken bones to heal as they are now… he was never tortured!)
▪ As soon as he was able to talk, he told his captors exactly who his Father and Grand-father is (was).
▪ He wasn’t given a choice for release. Congress feared the public learning of ‘special treatment’ and refused to have him released.
▪ There are (or was) pictures of him riding around in Hanoi with the prison camp commander… treated like a guest!
▪ After becoming a Senator, he prevented funds to find and rescue MIAs still being held in hidden prison camps.
▪ Showboating, McCAIN nearly sank U.S.S. Forrestal Aircraft Carrier, Killing 134 Sailors
▪ McCains entire life is nothing more than lies concocted to make him seem a hero.
Songbird McCain tapes found and released.
https://www.oathkeepers.org/breaking-news-john-mccains-1969-tokyo-rose-propaganda-recording-released/
POW betrayal.
McCAIN THE HERO-Showoff NEARLY SINKS AIRCRAFT CARRIER, KILLED 134 SAILORS
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2015/07/23/mccain-the-hero-nearly-sunk-an-aircraft-carrier-killed-134-sailors/
Meeting with known terrorists?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2762680/Feeding-frenzy-debunks-Rand-Paul-claim-John-McCain-met-ISIS-linked-jihadists-Syria.html
McCain funded by Soro’s since 2001?
Do you really trust WND? Do you really trust Corsi? He’s been debunked on virtually everything he’s done. Then again, WND has regularly sought stories to put McCain in the worst possible light. And they always fail.
The rest of the links are the same kind of drek. If you’re going to make an accusation, back it up with facts, not innuendo.
WELL, what we have here is a DIVIDED OPINION on a Senator McChero!
50 good 50 bad
ALL I CAN SAY is, being HALF a PIECE OF CHiT still STINKs in HELL or HEAVEN
which HALF of THE TURD, does one PIN A MEDAL TOO?
McCain wasn’t flying an F-4 (an F-4 was the responsible aircraft).
Get your history right.
There are a lot of REALLY stupid people on this blog. Half of you thing the photo at the top is for the article, and a shitload of you idiots don’t get that there was no one behind McCain’s aircraft, because the tail was facing the water. Many of you don’t understand how pilots are not treated like enlisted men, are trained at great expense, and considered valuable assets, and you don’t even understand that, as the son, and grandson, of two high ranking officers, McCain would receive special treatment, not only by his superiors but by the people lower in rank as well. The fast that ANY of you would believe this story is accurate just shows how stupid people can be. There is video proving McCain could not have blasted anyone with his exhaust. That alone tells you this story can’t be trusted. Then there are those of you who don’t understand that, in the confusion of events, it would be easy to make mistakes, like thinking a missile hit your plane when it may have hit the one next to you. McCain would not be expected to stay and be blown up, he would be expected to get his valuable ass to safety. There is so much that could be said here, not the least of which is that many people can, in one breath, say that our service members should never be talked of poorly, while you put down everything about McCain. The truth is service people are not sacred and they’re not all great people. As a matter of fact many of them are misogynistic, racist, assholes. Grow up you turds. If you can’t spot a blatant lie then shut up.
OMG I was on the Forrestfire in 76/77 and we had to watch the film of it burning but they never identified the idiot who started it.
Of course the didn’t. That’s part of the coverup.
Much has been made of the pictures on this post, however I do not seem to find any reference to the pictures in the text of the post itself. In other words, the author did not claim that these photos were of the actual event. My guess is that they are there for illustration purposes only. At any rate, the use of these pictures does not change the facts presented in the article. Oh, and by the way, can we stop the ad hominems. They only make you look crude and unable to express an argument.
I lost an uncle (that I was too young to remember) in this disaster 50 years ago. My Dad (also a Navy man, served on BB-62 USS New Jersey in the 40s) has never discussed this event with me for my entire life. As amazing as it sounds, I only learned yesterday that John McCain was on the Forrestal and was (one way or another) intimately involved in this event.
I also just watched the Navy training video from 1973 “Trial by Fire” for the first time yesterday because I’d simply like to know why my uncle had to die that day. I’ve read where others say you can see the Zuni rocket fire across the flight deck, and I assume they are talking about this video. I watched the “initial events” frame-by-frame. What my untrained eye sees is a DOCTORED film account of the events that started the disaster. Video link:
https://archive.org/details/gov.ntis.ava19833vnb1
I realize this is billed as “a motivational film for Navy personnel on the prevention of fire and for learning firefighting damage control measures” and not necessarily a complete, historically-accurate video account of events that day. However, the narrator (at 3:15) specifically says, “Using that visual record, let’s go back now to July 29th, 1967.” To me, that implies that this video is supposed to have captured the events of that specific day.
With that said, at 03:23, this looks like a spliced-in, staged shot of an F-4 fully tied-down with the nose facing the water that supposedly fires the Zuni rocket that started it all.
Then at 03:25, the video returns to the planes in take-off position and rapidly pans across the flight deck to capture the A-4 already in flames. So I conclude that this particular Navy video does NOT show the actual triggering event of that day.
Does anyone know if and where footage exists that captures the real Zuni rocket firing and hitting the A-4? I’d like to see it with my own eyes.
Thank you for this analysis. Now you know why the military propaganda is shown to the military. It’s all propaganda. They are trying to convince all in the military that John McCain was not responsible for this incident, when he was. That’s why what admirals as a father and a grandfather can do for you. It’s all “who you know.”
Sticking your head into this thread is like the parents coming home early from a weekend away to find what the teenagers have been up to in their absence.
I will say that some of the funniest lines I have ever read are to be found here, especially the ones about the picture at the top of TBP not being the Forrestal. Many KEKs were had.
Every week or so, this thread gets resurrected on someone’s Facebook page and reignites a shitstorm. It’s the post that keeps on giving.
Indeed… the #FAKENEWS think that if they repeat the lie enough someone might believe it. Unfortunately, their tinfoil hats won’t protect them from the truth.
I love this thread, it’s like jam to ants.
I heard that McCain was just a victim and the whole thing was caused by Trump.
John McCain’s “daddy” was an admiral and successfully covered up his son’s “f#ckups”. Another little-known fact about Admiral John S. McCain was the fact that he was a major player in the cover-up and whitewashing of the deliberate Israeli attack on the USS Liberty (GTR-5) in 1967.
An interesting note, another Admiral, George S. Morrison vehemently disagreed with Admiral McCain over the cover-up and whitewash of the USS Liberty (GTR-5). As Admiral McCain outranked him, he was powerless to act. . Admiral George S. Morrison was the father of Jim Morrison of the rock group “Doors” fame.
LOL
The thread that would never die.
McCain also assassinated JFK and brought down the twin towers.
School shootings?
Let me take this opportunity to inform you nitwits following and believing any of this Q bull shit. Ask yourselves what really has transpired? Crumbs my ass. If you all don’t feel like a bunch of fukking idiots , you should.
Holy shit…the latest Q drop crumb states that Elvis is living with Bobby Kennedy in Atlantis,the sunken city. Michelle Obama is really Michael Jackson and bangs Nancy Pelosi. You stupid, fantasy loving dumb fuks.
Keep watching and waiting for nothing. What a fukking hoax.
Quite the imaginative version of events! McCain’s aircraft didn’t misfire the Zuni missile — he was among the group of pilots it hit. Why don’t you watch a contemporary documentary of the incident (including the flight deck footage) and enlighten yourself.
Because it’s been doctored.
That is a picture of a burning oil platform not a burning aircraft carrier. One of my all time favorite comments on TBP.
What an embarassing load of total bullshit to post.
The Zuni launch was from an F-4; McCain was in one of the A-4s in the impact area it hit, a couple of planes over from the one the rocket struck. This was common knowledge in the Navy, and was shown in a training film of the incident made and released before McCain was even out of the POW camp, and before he was anything special.
If you’re going to post horseshit like this without even half-ass vetting it, get a gig with CNN.
Lew Rockwell has shit for brains if this load of cobblers is the best he can gin up.
Navy Docu film on YouTube from 1973:
Go to the 3:30 mark and following
If you watch, at about 3:53 at the right-most A-4, you can see either McCain climb out of his cockpit and climb off the wing.
The rocket was accidentally triggered from clear across the flight deck to starboard, and hit the A-4 two planes over from McCain’s.
If you can explain how McCain triggered a rocket launch in another cockpit 50 yards away, and at right angles to the exhaust of his Skyhawk, which hadn’t been started yet, I’ll kiss your ass.
He was an unmitigated douche for most of his Washington career, but he’s got enough to answer for in eternity without making stuff up.
https://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2018/08/lest-we-forget.html
If you’re going to trust a Navy Doc over Lew Rockwell, you have shit for brains.
A few people have tried to debunk this story, claiming McCain was not reponsible. I don’t buy it. His pattern of reckless and unprofessional behavior was well-established long before this incident. He was a Navy Academy grad.
They are notorious rank closers when one of their own is threatened (I know; my USMC TBS class was made up of half Navy Academy grads – I was not impressed with most of them). His Dad was commander of the Pacific Fleet, he was transferred to another carrier immediately following the incident. McCain was a thoughtless, arrogant punk his entire life. He almost certainly lied about his “torture” at the hands of the North Vietnamese and made radio broadcasts for them. I am inclined to believe this version of events.
Snopes? Really? Oh my god, you’re a dumb ass.
No to mention the back door deal this POS make to get special privileges for business deals in Vietnam in exchange for stopping all the concerns about the still missing soldiers. Hell is too good for this shitbag.
OK maybe it was a hot shot stunt that turned into a deadly cluster fuck . Maybe it was a massive fuck up by a pilot or maybe a combination of tech failures and fuck ups . Either way most ship board personal involved in this degree of incident or accident would have at least been forced to resign and at worst Levanworth Kansas . Regardless your military career would be in the shitter and you would be lucky to be stocking shelves at Old Navy !
When I was in AWACS, our squadron CC tapped a follow me truck due to misdirection by on of the ground controllers who misjudged the distance. He resigned his command and finished his time in staff jobs, even though he was “cleared” of fault. I was his secretary whilst I was preggers, so he and I were a bit more like family than CC/SSgt, but I am not the only one who will tell you he was a man of real integrity.
Is why he turned down full bird to retire after one of our weapons guys was charged with the shootdown of that UN helicopter post Desert Storm. While the fighter pilot who actually took the shot? Nada.
Turned down full bird to retire.
Think about that.
Nepotism, Ring Knocker favoritism, outright no doubt about it flag rank cover up, I saw it all with mine own eyes in just ten years of Naval service.
If he was to blame, given his family’s rank and position, you would NEVER find out about it. The “thin blue line’s” close mouth got nothing on military hush ups.
Why would anyone defend McLame? The man was a rotten pile of garbage his entire life and he never improved with age. He just got worse and worse. If there is a hell, I bet he’s there.