Submitted by Hardscrabble Farmer
Stories like this aren’t real, they’re a form of engineering to let you know that the little people better get serious about what’s in store for us down the pike- less of everything. Start thinking about biking to work and having crickets for supper, plebes, the good days are over. No more kids for you, no more meat, no more travel, no more nothing. End game in progress.
These Scientists Are Radically Changing How They Live To Cope With Climate Change
When the US government is doing nothing to stop climate change, do your personal choices even matter? Here’s how climate scientists are — and aren’t — changing their lives.
Kim Cobb traveled to the Kiritimati coral reefs in the spring of 2016 and found, to her horror, an underwater graveyard.
A climate scientist at the Georgia Institute of Technology, Cobb was alarmed to see this precious research site in the Pacific Ocean in such visible distress. The reefs were mostly dead after months of being in abnormally warm ocean waters.
Then that fall Donald Trump was elected president, dashing Cobb’s hopes of the US implementing the environmental rules needed to prevent a warmer world. “It became clear after the election not only was that hope misplaced, but it was actually never going to be enough,” Cobb told BuzzFeed News.
And so, she underwent a “wholesale reorganization” of her life, she said, including biking to work, rarely flying, going vegetarian, investing in expensive residential rooftop solar panels, and getting involved in her community’s new transportation plans.
A growing number of scientists and activists are, like Cobb, taking dramatic personal steps to decrease their personal carbon footprint. But stopping the activities that make a real difference — flying, driving, eating meat, and having children — is for most people a big sacrifice, and even climate experts disagree about whether they have a moral imperative to do so.
The camp that’s going all out includes a 400-person Facebook group called #BirthStrike, formed in December 2018, for people who have decided “not to bear children due to the severity of the ecological crisis.” And hundreds of climate scientists have vowed to scale back on flying.
“I think it’s a good thing for climate messengers to ‘walk the talk,’” said Peter Kalmus, an associate project scientist at the University of California, Los Angeles, who has stopped flying altogether and created the website No Fly Climate Sci for others to publicly share why they are flying less. “It makes the message much more effective.”
Other scientists point out, though, that without strict laws to curb carbon emissions, no individual’s choices matter all that much. For them, the most important action is political — to try to change the direction of national and global policies.
If everyone who already cared about climate change “reduced their carbon emissions to zero, it doesn’t actually change very much,” said Gavin Schmidt, director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies. Making your home energy efficient is nothing compared to laws that would require all buildings to be greener. Buying solar panels for your roof doesn’t pack the same climate punch as electric companies relying more on solar farms, and less on coal plants, to feed the grid.
“Agitating and voting and writing letters and op-eds,” Schmidt said, “make far more sense” for promoting systemic change.
Courtesy of Cobb Lab
Kim Cobb working in the Kiritimati coral reefs in 2014.
Many people who care about climate change are wrestling with what, if anything, they can do about it. Although many of the most popular consumer choices, from ditching plastic straws to using an electric vehicle instead of a gas-guzzler, have some environmental benefits — they don’t put a dent in global emissions. Meanwhile, carbon pollution is approaching frightening levels: According to an influential report published in October, the world could experience dangerous warming as early as 2030 if we don’t rapidly cut emissions.
And yet, President Trump has reversed course on a lot of US climate policies. His administration has repealed the Clean Power Plan designed to curb pollution from coal plants, gutted stricter climate standards for cars and trucks and, just this month, signed executive orders aimed to streamline the development of new fossil fuel projects. Trump also pledged to withdraw the US from the Paris climate agreement, slowing momentum for global action.
The one-two punch of witnessing coral reef carnage and then seeing Trump get elected sent Cobb spiraling into depression. She decided to try engaging with climate action on a personal level, focusing on changing things within her control, such as how she got to work and what she ate, and found a new sense of hope and energy along the way. “It became a daily part of my self-care,” Cobb said.
But talking about her transformation on social media sparked a backlash. “I brought the haters out,” Cobb said.
She has been accused of virtue signaling, and touting a lifestyle that some say is only attainable for the rich. Cobb said she’s not out to shame or judge anyone — instead, she’s trying to show that living a climate-friendly life doesn’t have to be a sacrifice.
As scientists have debated these issues, outsiders have piled on. Climate skeptics have repeatedly called out scientists and activists for their carbon-intensive lives.
For these people, Schmidt of NASA has no patience. “People who use the personal choices of climate scientists as some kind of excuse for not understanding science or refusing to accept science, those are not good-faith arguments, and we shouldn’t really entertain them,” Schmidt said.
Peter Kalmus’s journey down the path of a carbon-limited life started years before Trump’s presidency, back in 2006. He was a graduate student in astrophysics at Columbia University at the time, and a new father. One of the department’s weekly talks featured then-NASA climate scientist James Hansen, and his presentation had Kalmus on the edge of his seat. In the years since, he switched careers to focus on climate change, cut meat from his diet, and gave up flying. He shares his passion with his two sons, 10 and 12, who regularly strike before school on Friday to spread awareness about climate change.
Similar to Cobb, upending his lifestyle was a way for him to find meaning and hope in the face of a terrifying future.
“I’m basically freaking out about carbon emissions,” he said. “If I feel like, This is so urgent and I can’t even reduce, I would probably feel pretty hopeless.”
And more than many of his peers, Kalmus sees individual action as instrumental in bringing about larger change. “You can’t have systematic change unless a whole bunch of individuals are essentially voting for it and voting for it with their actions,” he said.
T. Jane Zelikova, an ecologist at the University of Wyoming, said she’s struggled with what to do. ”Climate change is a collective problem,” Zelikova said. “I think putting the onus of climate change solutions on climate scientists — it doesn’t seem fair. But I also realize we have to lead by example.”
Schmidt is fine with people changing their lives because it’s fulfilling. But he doesn’t want the public to get the impression that the only way to save the planet is by abstaining from certain products or not traveling. “I don’t think that is where we want to end up,” Schmidt said.
His philosophy is: “Individual actions are not really the solution, but there’s no reason that you should unnecessarily pollute the atmosphere.”
Neither Schmidt nor Zelikova have given up flying entirely, but they have tried to cut back by combining trips or using virtual conferencing software. Schmidt became a vegetarian, driven both by animal welfare and climate concerns, and Zelikova aims to only buy meat from ranchers with sustainable grazing practices.
Zelikova said she is “really lucky” to have a good-paying job and live in a place that makes such choices possible.
Zelikova has also mulled one of the biggest decisions of all: whether to have kids. Adding to the more common concerns, such as financial security, Zelikova told BuzzFeed News that, in the wake of increasingly catastrophic predictions from climate models, she and her partner have talked about “whether it’s responsible to bring new kids into the world or whether we should adopt.” They haven’t decided yet.
The top actions you can take to cut your own emissions, in order of impact, include having one fewer child (equaling, for someone in a rich country, an estimated 58.6 tons of carbon dioxide equivalent per year), living car-free (about 2.4 tons per year), avoiding air travel (about 1.6 tons per round-trip transatlantic flight), and eating a plant-based diet (roughly 0.8 tons per year), according to a 2017 study in the journal Environment Research Letters.
The study authors also looked at what recommendations were being shared in textbooks, government material, and other sources. They found the biggest actions, mentioned above, were often omitted, whereas moderate- and low-impact choices — like recycling, buying energy-efficient products, and taking public transportation — were featured. For example, the Environmental Protection Agency’s “What You Can Do” website includes a “green vehicle guide” and “fuel economy guide” but doesn’t suggest ditching cars altogether.
Climate scientist Katharine Hayhoe of Texas Tech University regularly engages with the public about climate change. She gave a TED Talk and created a YouTube series. Over and over again, she’s been asked the same question: What can I do about climate change?
This has led her down a multiyear journey of experimentation, giving up certain things and seeing how it felt. Over the past decade, she’s invested in solar panels for her home, bought an electric vehicle, and switched from a dryer to a drying rack. Increasingly, she’s been giving virtual talks to cut down on travel.
Hayhoe’s biggest climate impact, she said, is not cutting her own emissions or serving as a model for others on this front. It’s simply talking to as many people as possible about the perils of climate change.
“The most important thing I’ve done is restructure my life to tell as many people in as efficient and effective ways as I can,” Hayhoe said. “It is real. It is us. It is serious and there are solutions if we act now.” ●
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CO2 is PLANT FOOD! Chip
The article states… “And hundreds of climate scientists have vowed to scale back on flying.”
While over 30,000 scientists think you have your head up your ass…
Global Warming Petition Project, over 30,000 scientists reject global warming projections… http://www.petitionproject.org/index.php
REAL SCIENCE…
6CO2 + 6H2O + SUNLIGHT —> C6H12O6 + 6O2
CO2 is plant food!!!
We may actually have a carbon dioxide drought… Chip
CO2 Drought…
There are 1,00 fish shitting in the fish tank and one decides to stop shitting in order to keep the water clean. 5 fish think its a good idea and also stop shitting. 10 fish look upon the 6 non shitting fishes and applaud. The remaining 986 fish continue shitting. Result: fish tank continues to fill with shit. The cleaner shrimp are getting fat and the ecological system of shrimp, snails and bacteria continue to eat shit and keep things clean enough for all shitting and non shifting fish to live out their lives and many generations after them also. A few generations later shit face stained fish is all the rage and a fad. Clean fish are made fun of. Many generations later shit face stained fish are made fun of and clean metro sexual fish are all the rage. Many generations, mostly out of boredom and not wanting to follow a previous fad a new species of fish are allowed to join. These new fish are predators and begin eating other fish. 5 fish want to protect the invaders because of diversity and all that it brings. 10 fish applaud those 5 speaking out. Ruling fish see this as an opportunity to gain power by allowing fear to spread and the new species to prey to secure themselves as protectors in power. Every so often they wipe out a predator fish to flex their muscles, of course the minions fish do all the killing while the so called leader fish tells everyone he did it. So easy to talk about fish and see their insanity, not so easy when we all realize we are the symbolic fish.
Unfortunately they are! These are real people who are convinced, deeply!
The theory of some kind of collusion which plan this processes and stories is seductive but false. You can’t behead the evil and we are happily living ever after…
“Zelikova aims to only buy meat from ranchers with sustainable grazing practices.”
Does that mean their cows don’t fart?
Here’s how that goes- cows are ruminants, they have a four chambered stomach to digest grasses. A cow raised on grasses produces the normal amount of methane- a by-product of digestion as any other ruminant. Cows that are fed on grain, like corn or soy based feeds, are unable to digest it in the same way as grass. Grains break down and ferment at a much faster rate than grass, and they have additional sugars that contribute to the increased production of methane.
If cattle were fed what their digestive systems were designed to handle this wouldn’t be a blip on the radar, but industrial agriculture “cheats” by packing lots of fat on an animal in a short time frame to maximize their return on carcass weight. Industrial agriculture accounts for the vast majority of our current production. There isn’t a problem with cattle per se, but rather with the practices of industrial agriculture. Cutting down the consumption of beef isn’t going to eliminate the problem because it’s an after the fact approach that does nothing to alter the underlying cause of the problem.
Yesterday I drove some cattle down to auction with a friend and the PETA folks were protesting out in front with signs that read- Cows Are People Too. Of course if they were, the sign wouldn’t have used the word Cows. I felt sorry for their ignorance.
Since there is no such thing as a “Greenhouse Effect” there are no “greenhouse gases”. That’s why the bovine methane crap is so ridiculous.
Temperature fraud manipulation laid out by The ONLY guy on the issue!
HSF,
I know you are right about the cows, and I always read and admire your posts.
But, I have to say the corn-fed beef in my neck of the woods tastes great, and I can still get good sirloin for $4/lb when it’s on sale at the local grocery. Eat more beef!
I’m not defending the commercial feed lots and large scale agriculture; I see it every day, and it is what it is. A lot of it is economics, whether it makes sense or not. As a retiree and Social Security recipient, with the joke COLA increases and such, I can’t/won’t pay $10/lb for organic grass fed sirloin, even if I know it’s maybe better.
As for the do-gooders in the article, it’s hard for me to believe these type of people are actually qualified and paid to teach others. They are fucking retarded, at best.
I’m neither for or against it, because they aren’t my animals. I’m only pointing out how the digestive system of the cow works and why there is more gas produced by feeding a ruminant grain. There are Industrial Ag operations that finish cattle on all kinds of “co-products” (that’s their term, not mine) such as chicken feathers, chicken manure, date expired candy, wood pulp, etc. All they care about is adding weight to a carcass in order to maximize their return in the shortest period possible, that what’s taught in Ag Schools and that’s what’s endorsed by the USDA. I wouldn’t do it because I A) care about the lives of my herd B) care about the meat we eat and sell and C) don’t want to pay for feed. Does a nice marbled corn fed steak taste good to most Americans? Sure it does, but what else is in that meat on the cellular level after having fed them the kind of rations that wreck their renal system prior to slaughter? What kind of discomfort must a cow live with because it’s guts are bloated by decomposing feeds that it cannot properly digest just so a few more pounds can be thrown on before it’s sold? These details are never discussed by the geniuses that are hell bent on having everyone live on tempeh and freeze dried water bugs.
If- and that’s a big if because the climate change people are like NASA, proven serial liars who simply cannot be trusted-if cattle are actually producing gases these activists oppose, the smart solution is to change the way cattle are fed, not continue the practices that cause the gas and eat less, but feed them what Nature designed them to digest so they aren’t producing the methane and eat as much as you want.
And I’ve eaten beef my whole life, had plenty of experiences to compare against and nothing, and I mean nothing is as deeply satisfying and flavorful as grass fed and finished beef. The protein content is always higher and the fat is much richer and better for you. It’s actually orange as opposed to white because it’s loaded with beta carotene from the grasses and has higher levels of B-12. Most people could care less, they just want a cheap piece of meat and don’t worry about the life of the animal or what it ate.
And just for good measure grazing cattle on grass improves the grasslands by impounding carbon from their manure in the soil.
Our health is determined by the microbial flora in our gut, just like cattle.
Food from denatured soil has few microbes that are good for you, plenty that aren’t.
All non-organic, mass-produced food comes monoculture crops in soil contaminated by pesticides, herbicides, and pharmaceuticals – and they are the food for all factory farmed animals.
When Obama earmarked a half-billion dollars for the study of antibiotic resistant superbugs, he exempted factory farms from that study. Of course, it’s where superbugs are bred.
TV show explained that 70% of antibiotics are used in agriculture.They went on to describe the adulteration of animal feed with, a HF noted, chicken feathers, bone meal and fat renderings from your local McDonald’s. I may not like her politics but I learned a lot from Sister Shahrazad’s video on pork. She isn’t talking about HF’s pigs but she is describing the practices of industrial agriculture. It’s muckraking at its finest.
excellent information HSF thank you
HSF! ^^^^^ My experience too!
NtroP,
Corn fed beef is inferior to grass fed beef. My uncle refused to feed his beef cattle corn. He sold a superior product at a higher price.
I recently went to Cancun. I visited an Outback. I ordered a 11 ounce Sirloin Steak. I split it with the wife. The texture, the taste and the ease of eating the meat was beyond compare. Of course, Mexican beef is not corn feed crap the united States pushes so it gets feed its natural diet, GRASS!
I have a solution for the excess methane produced by grain-fed cattle. Simply divert the grain to a business that malts the barley, wheat, and corn to the brewing industry.
Make more beer.
One fantasy gets traded for another and it makes more sense than starving people to save them.
great Idea but beer makes you burp depending on what you ate there maybe green house gasses in that
PETA are people too! Of course if their signs didn’t have PETA….
The IPCC now admit that Methane in the atmosphere has a ‘lifecycle’ of 6 years by which time it recycles into CO2 and H2O. i.e. the level of Methane in the atmosphere doersn’t vary much and is likely to be less than it was in the early 1800’s if the number of ruminants in the USA is any guide. The system is pretty much in equilibrium. One molecule of Methane CH4, with one atom of Carbon, produces one molecule of CO2 – with one atom of Carbon. CO2 is converted into sugars (and in the process other nutrients e.g. protein) in grass and feed through photosynthesis. A ruminant eats the grass Carbon molecule and, aside from its bodyweight which temporarily stores Carbon, produces one molecule of CH4 (with one atom of Carbon).
CO2 and CH4 are very very different chemicals. CO2 is very stable. CH4 has high enthalpy and is very unstable. It’s lifetime in the atmosphere is short!
Nincompoop science. Lovely.
It never ceases to amaze me how people so readily travel down the guilt path. Whether it’s biking to work, eating less meat, supporting reparations, all the way down to bringing bacteria laden cloth bags to the supermarket. I surmise that they feel guilty about such things because they don’t like themselves, who they are. So let them eat less meat and use less fossil fuel, more for us!
Just yesterday I split 3 cords of wood I felled and cut with my kickass chainsaw and then split with my vertical gas guzzling woodsplitter. This morning I brined a big old lamb neck that I will smoke later this afternoon. Do I feel guilty? Fuck No. I love those things.
Virtue signaling for people who are too brainwashed to bring more sheeple into the world. *
And none of it means sh*t until China and India do the same – and they will not anytime soon.
Solar panels and electric vehicles are expensive, and, hell, with the way they spray around here, a solar panel might be half-as-effective as it could be if they would leave nature to itself and stop f*cking with it. So, yeah, I would agree that the lifestyle these people is only attainable for the rich . . . because most people pay so GD much for healthcare that they can’t afford to fly ANYWHERE, much less “cut back” or “give it up”, and to have one of these little shits preaching to me how to live makes me wanna climb through my LCD and drown them with their own half-caff maccaroniato.
* I advise young men/women/its/themz not to have kids because, in the history of the world, there has never been, IMO, a worse time to do so; they’ll end up with autism and/or just be indoctrinated property of the state. Sure,” you could fight the education, but just remember, you are in your twenties and if you think your parents are stupid, don’t pretend that your kids won’t think the same of you. “
I’ll quit driving when everyone else does.
The cost of fuel in some countries causes a lot of people to walk, bicycle, or use mass transportation.
I remember at the onset of one of The Gulf Wars, Dick Cheney spouted off that our American lifestyle would not be compromised. Hell yeah!! Send in the Marines. Sacrifice a few of our sons and daughters. Just keep the price of oil down so we can spend more at Christmas and keep the economy from collapsing. (Have you ever noticed how gas prices tend to be lower before the holidays and then climb back up soon after??? End of rant.
I’ll quit eating meat when everyone else does or when children stop having canine teeth. Go figure.
Etc. Etc.
I think the biggest user of petroleum based fuels may be the military and the fed/gov.
Shut’em down. Stop all the foreign entanglements and it would go a long way.
I often think of JFK’s challenge in the early 60’s to put a man on the moon in that decade and (supposedly) it happened in 1969. He challenged us to do this, not because it was easy but because it was hard (haaad). You tell me, how we can put a man on the moon and cannot find a clean way to burn coal?
Of course it could be climate change caused by CO2 emissions from cars and factories. Yeah that could certainly be the cause of the demise of the reef system which is under the ocean in the remotest spot on the face of the earth. This place is so remote that no factory is there. No cars to speak of. No industry at all except for tourism. There are no cows. There are only people who eat fish and shit into the ocean. They get the fish by blowing up the reef and collecting the fish that float to the surface. Maybe that’s the cause of the demise of the reef. Or, perhaps it is the inordinate number of nuclear explosion that were detonated on the island. Yeah that could be it. Just imagine how toasty the reef got every time the british and the merkins detonated a nuclear bomb. Of course, that was a long time ago. How could the effects of all of those bombs still be seen today?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiritimati
That would just be silly.
HR,
Don’t leave out the Frenchies, who nuked the shit out of French Polynesia!
“…it’s a moral imperative” Great line from cult hit movie “Real Genius”.
And won’t it be a bit chilly to commute by bike when this whole solar minimum thing kicks in? I used to ride the 2 miles to work year ’round, wearing snowboard mitts (winter) and loved it. I don’t see some snowflake-see what I did there?-having the fortitude to tuff it out.
God Bless their little hearts for making room on the roads for more 4×4 trucks.
speaking of the solar minimum,unless it spins out of control & becomes a little ice age,i have seen projections that the solar minimum will last about 7-12 years–
once the solar minimum is over,temps will start rising again so these people have all their bases covered unless you’re an informed person–
Warmer World!!!!! It is April 28th here in upstate NY and it has snowed the last 2 days.Tonight it is going down in the 20’s Warming world my ass!!!! As I have said before. These people play with themselves…..
People are just f’ing nuts these days (just like always…).
http://hirocker.com/mania/modern-mania.html
I did not think the libtard disease had been affecting scientists. Lordy, is there no cure. Sigh.
Manufactured Temperature fraud laid out by the ONLY guy on the issue.
Tony Heller exposes the Climate Change / Global Warming HOAX which is fueled by the “Climate Industrial Complex” for money naturally, just like the military industrial WAR Complex for their cash flow from Uncle Stupid.
All of his very substantial work, some of which is just photo journalism of travels, for those that are interested further, can be seen by clicking on his name below the video.
This is an exhaustive piece, so is 29 minutes long, but his work is superb.
Nary a word from Kim Cobb on Fukushima. It’s not the meltdowns themselves that kill everything – including coral reefs. It is the MOX fuel, in particular, that was vaporized. Ocean currents take it to Christmas Island with time and Pu half life is 25K years.
MOX rods were in the cooling pools (thousands of them) in Unit 3. The cores of those rods are about 6% MOX fuel. A rod weighs about 450 pounds. That means about 27 pounds of MOX per rod. At least 8,000 rods containing MOX were being cooled. That means about 216,000 pounds of MOX fuel was in the original rods.
Once used, the rods deplete to 2-4% remaining fuel. That translates to around 6500 pounds of MOX (at 3%). 50% was vaporized according to a NARAC report (from unit 3 alone), that was later claimed to be just estimates (“just estimates” was a lie, no doubt).
THAT should put the fear of God into Kim Cobb more than anything else. There were also thousands more UOX rods that were vaporized.
AND
Mutiple pools and reactors were vaporized. 3400 tons is 6.8 million pounds – not including core fuel. Even if man-made climate change were real, it is irrelevant compared to this problem.
Nice! Thanks for the info.
Er, wait. . . .
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/mox-fuel-nuclear/
Mixed-Oxide Rods have a lot of deadly radioactive metallic by-products NOT found in Uranium Oxide Rods.
Screw you. That’s the worst news ever. 🙂
No one is talking about urban sprawl either, more ground and farmland covered in concrete and strip malls and subdivisions. They had to call it Global Warming/climate Change because then they can tax the air we breathe . Cow farts? Hell of a lot more humans than cows, humans fart. What is never mentioned is conservation and pollution abatement. I’ll give them that the pollution and garbage need draconian cleaning measures, but most of that comes not from the first world, it comes from the third world. Look at all the massive slums of the planet, what do they all share in common? Huge mounds of filth, like the inhabitants are too lazy to clean up after themselves. Those plastic continents in the ocean get there from the slums of the 3rd world moreso than from the first world. Drive on the highways in Mexico and see plastic bags everywhere, millions of them and they’re there because no one cleans up after themselves, they just litter and go on.
Everybody talks about doing little tiny things, that’s not really going to help. The only way to solve climate change is to substantially raise taxes. If we do that right away, the planet will be saved.
Great sarcasm there lil’ buddy.
Your calling Starfuck, “Little buddy” are you Captain Ahab of the USS Minnow?
Where does it say America is the world’s climate policeman?
Early Solylent Green is the solution to human pollution.*
So the real question is: who is volunteering to go first?
Like Hardfarmer said the scientist/ people at NASA are proven liars. They lie about everything . The biggest of all the moon landings . In my opinion these other people are the same kind of liars and they know they are lying .
I have my doubts that you ever went to Canada, Bibi.
I saw BuzzFeed and climate change as part of the lede. Take the opposite position, plant some fruit trees with the mindset that your current USDA Zone – 1 == New Normal in 10 years, and stop screwing around with NFL drafts.
Volcanic winter will cancel out globull warming. Someone get Dr. Evil his giant boring machine already.
This is an EXTREMELY wonderful goal !!!!!!!
I will be devoting 99% of my available time to spreading this message far and wide across ALL of America.
—- I will work to grow this group from 400 to 40 Million.
Please join me!!!!!!!!!
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Important Note: Please enroll only libfuks.
Thank Yew.
Actually, I’m hoping to implement a lot of what’s in this article … but, for entirely different reasons.
I hope to get to the point where Ms Freud and I can live on less than $1,000 month. Why? Fuck this consumerism lifestyle on which America is based!!!!! That’s why.
Two people on less than one thousand a month is going to be an enormous challenge. I’m one person, I live a very frugal lifestyle and I have a hard time on $1,200 month. My house and car are paid for so I don’t have to worry about those bills but I’m having a real hard time making ends meet , mostly because inflation is raising costs significantly. On everything.
Saw some old rich guy on TV calling out some climate Nazi. He explained to her that if climate change was a problem and if the sea level was going to rise no bank would fund real estate development in any coastal area including the eastern seaboard, the southern US, the west coast, much of Europe, much of Central America and pretty much anywhere there is ocean bordering inhabited land mass. If the bankers aren’t sweating climate change, it is definitely a hoax. And they know it. Regardless of the official stance their mega companies might have on the whole issue. He also yelled at her and used the F word several times, which was pretty funny. Until I saw the video, what he talked about had never occurred to me, but I think he’s got a solid point.
That’s how it’s done. Pure logic.
I propose that it wasn’t a universal flood but it was a flood of the known world. Noah must have known that because he expected the waters to recede. If it had been universal, all land would be underwater and there would be no place for water to go.
The misunderstanding has lead people to believe we can actually save the whole planet from anything; asteroids to xenomorphs.
Did it ever occur to you that what banks do is no longer based in sanity? Case in point, all the NINJA loans that nearly brought the banking system to the brink of collapse 10-12 years ago… As long as they can make the numbers this quarter, and can hope for a gov. bailout if they get caught with their pants down.. why should they worry about climate change?
If you care to look at the military (not generally known to be a big tree-hugging group), they are taking it extremely seriously. It’s a real thing.
Time Warner built its new headquarters two blocks off the Hudson in NYC a little while back..They didn’t seem concerned about rising sea levels, but you should.
I do know that the solar panels on my house are a better investment than a bank CD, better even than any annutiy I could find. They also llmit my inflation risk. So for me it is a good deal.