On Inevitability, Beauty, Truth, & Experience

By Doug “Uncola” Lynn via TheBurningPlatform.com

 

“If we focus on fighting death, we can only lose…

If we focus on living life, we can only win.”

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For many years, I’ve held on to the feeling of invincibility I’ve known all of my life.  Like the sense one has before a test when they just know they have a better-than-average chance of coming up aces; of being prepared to rise above the challenge and feeling lucky at the same time.  Even when I went through a bout of depression and paralysis several years ago – it was, in part, because I was angry that the inevitable shit-show was taking too long get started and the waiting to die was killing me.

But now, this is the first year where I no longer feel invincible. For whatever reason, it seems like a turning point.  Or, rather, the beginning of the descent down the other side of the mountain. I don’t sleep as soundly as I have in the past and, in the mornings, my old injuries yield more aches and pains. My endurance is less, my hands can’t grip as tight as before, and my range of physical movement is increasingly restricted; or at least more than it once was. Additionally, my eyesight is diminished as are my senses of hearing and smell.

I’m older now and, of course, none of the above was a surprise as I’ve been watching them transpire for some time. It’s just now, this year, these have become absolutely undeniable on a daily basis and I’m okay with that because seasons change. That’s all.  Even so, we can fight to delay the inevitable by eating the right foods, drinking lots of water (I drink distilled), and getting plenty of sunshine, fresh air, and exercise.  Yet time waits on no one and our bodies wind down like clocks.

Inevitability is as inevitability does.

Over a rainy Memorial Day weekend, I watched a film on Netflix called “American Honey”.  It was sort of an arthouse flick starring Shia LaBeouf and some unknown young actress in her first role. They traveled from town to town with a crew of tattooed and pierced young magazine salespeople while drinking lots of booze, smoking weed, and having sex.  In a way, it was an allegory of youth’s flame lighting up the random universe amidst making money and love.  And isn’t that pretty much the story our lives?

What struck me about the film was the interwoven beauty and decay; and danger.  Heartwarming human connections amidst cultural degradation.  Stunning sunrises and sunsets over insects, filth, sweat, and muddy water.   Is that not the very essence of life? Good and bad in varying measures and defined at any given time by what we sense.

Take, for example, the politics of our time.  Corruption and lies in the darkest of swamps versus courage and truth shining like campfires on the surrounding horizons.

For no apparent reason, I was thinking today of the author, intellectual, and conservative icon William F. Buckley Jr.  Here was a guy who experienced the American dream.  He lived large within a charmed life. Receiving an Ivy League education during the height of American prosperity and influence: A former army officer, sail-boating enthusiast, spy novelist, and 1991 recipient of the Presidential Medal of Freedom.  I recall Rush Limbaugh once telling a story how his soda was spiked by Buckley before a television interview and, at the time, found myself smiling while I was driving as the tale was told.

I also saw an interview of Buckley in his later years, telling the interviewer that he had grown “weary of life” and that he welcomed death.  I found that peculiar at the time, coming from one who was so blessed, had lived so large, and who had obtained such legacies and lasting influence.

It made me ask the question: “What’s the point?

Perhaps it is this:  We cannot know light without darkness, or experience the comforting warmth of the hearth without a chill in the air.  Nor can we fully appreciate day without night, each season without the other seasons, or decency without corruption.   What is life without death, joy without suffering, living without dying?

Our lives are defined by what we think we see and whether or not the perceived proverbial glass is half empty or half full.  It depends upon where we are looking.   And, perhaps, upon how full we are ourselves.  There is a fullness of gratitude that derives from humility and an inner emptiness from pride.  Pride wants to capture life, but life cannot be caught.  Instead, our experience flows through us like oxygen; and over us as rain.

Beauty is akin to a butterfly and when trapped it wilts like a plucked flower in the sun.  Neither can it be made to subdue.  A passive observer must consciousness be to know the breeze.  And the quieter we become, the more we see.   The winds of fear may be blowing through your lives and filling your eyes with dust.  Perhaps we are riding the crest of waves, out of control, ‘til our very foundations are shaken in the core.

Don’t blink or you’ll miss it – the wind in our eyes.

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Author: Uncola

I am one who has found the road less traveled while remaining a whiskered, whispering witness to the world. I hope what you just considered was worth the price and time spent. www.TheTollOnline.com

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MMinLamesa
MMinLamesa
May 29, 2019 6:48 am

All of the physical winding downs you describe are happening to myself also. Knock on wood, at 67, I know there are no more PRs ahead of me in the gym, but I’m still quite healthy. I have a very positive POV and enjoy working(and working out) every day. I know someday, the party will be over, but I’ve had a fucking great time on this side.

I still have a number of things I want to accomplish and am focused on them. Some gold pink glass. A couple acres in the Ozarks. My grand daughter.

Could my current situation be better? Of course. Have I made mistakes? Absolutely. Regrets? Who doesn’t. But all in all, putting my feet on the ground every morning and getting as many people as possible on my side of the fence(so to speak) is as exciting as it ever was.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
May 29, 2019 6:57 am

Very moving and welcome on this morning.

What is life if not the joy of the experience as we pass through?

And where is the beauty if it were not fleeting?

I raise my coffee cup in fellow feeling, the roosters crowing in the backyard to announce the new day.

MMinLamesa
MMinLamesa
  Hardscrabble Farmer
May 29, 2019 7:03 am

Thank you and add chickens to my list-I’ve always wanted to raise them-I have several friends that do and enjoy visiting & watching them.

I also always enjoy your writing that Jim posts-although I seldom comment, I always read & reread them.

brewer55
brewer55
  MMinLamesa
May 29, 2019 9:15 am

I’m in my mid-60’s. I retired from the corporate world 2.5 years ago and moved to the country on some acreage 5 years ago. I’ve got the chickens (10 — all hens. No roosters HF but, when they are laying, those hens can get loud announcing to the world they gave birth, again!! hehe). I took up beekeeping 3 years ago (4 hives) and I put in a large garden. All this to say that there are some days where I wonder what it’s all about and I also ponder if I will be a very old man when the balloon goes up and I have to defend my wife and I from the golden horde. But, as a man of faith who has had a good life overall, I’m happy to thank the Good Lord for all that I’ve been given — a great wife and life partner, children and grandchildren, some prosperity, a roof over my head, and a belly that rarely growls. Have a great day, folks!

Jaz
Jaz
  MMinLamesa
May 29, 2019 9:18 am

Observing the chickens and their culture is great therapy.

Ginger
Ginger
May 29, 2019 7:48 am

“For to him that is joined to all the living there is hope: for a living dog is better than a dead lion.”
Ecclesiastes 9:4

Mangledman
Mangledman
  Ginger
May 29, 2019 11:54 am

AMEN!

niebo
niebo
May 29, 2019 8:29 am

And the quieter we become, the more we see. The winds of fear may be blowing through your lives and filling your eyes with dust.

“And behold, the Lord passed by, and a great and strong wind tore into the mountains and broke the rocks in pieces before the Lord, but the Lord was not in the wind; and after the wind an earthquake, but the Lord was not in the earthquake; and after the earthquake a fire, but the Lord was not in the fire; and after the fire a still small voice. . . . ‘What are you doing here, Elijah?'”

1 Kings 19:11-13

Could not help but make that connection, but, to me, that is a positive, and also what keeps me going: looking for light amidst all these shadows and, often enough, finding it, clinging to it, as much, at least, as one may “hold” the ether, while I choose to be still, shhh, and to listen.

So, thank you, sir, for the beauty and depth. Like HSF, I raise my coffee, too.

Only mine has whiskey in it.

old white guy
old white guy
May 29, 2019 8:29 am

As an old man I find myself experiencing similar sentiments. I just keep on doing what I can. I do not fear death, but the organism that is my brain will rebel when the time comes and I will have no control over it.

Outwitlibs
Outwitlibs
May 29, 2019 9:00 am

Beautiful story….truthful,hopeful, and honest.
Chip (SmallerGovNow) and I recently watch a movie I would recommend to anyone wishing to see a family, Christian based, story of an aging golfer teaching a young up-coming star the important things in life. “Seven Days in Eutopia” Is one of the most heart warming, faith based, back to basics movies of this decade. Here is the prayer Rober Duval offer at a meal:
“ For food in a world where many walk in hunger,
For faith in a world where many walk in fear,
For a friend in a world where many walk alone.
We give you thanks oh Lord, Amen”

This will soon hang above an inside door, when Chip gets the time to paint it.

Uncola
Uncola
  Outwitlibs
May 29, 2019 1:33 pm

@ Chip,

Although my Mom passed many years ago I still have the e-mail in my inbox that she sent me of the below poem. It was one of her favorites. I don’t know who wrote it because it has been attributed to multiple authors:

When I Whine
~~~~~~~
Today, upon a bus, I saw a girl with golden hair
I looked at her and sighed and wished I was as fair.
When suddenly she rose to leave,
I saw her hobble down the aisle.
She had one leg and used a crutch
But as she passed, she passed a smile.
Oh, God, forgive me when I whine
I have 2 legs…, the world is mine.
~~~
I stopped to buy some candy
The lad who sold it had such charm
I talked with him a while, he seemed so very glad
If I were late, it’d do no harm.
And as I left, he said to me,
“I thank you, you’ve been so kind.
It’s nice to talk with folks like you.
You see,” he said, “I’m blind.”
Oh, God, forgive me when I whine.
I have 2 eyes…, the world is mine.
~~~
Later while walking down the street,
I saw a child with eyes of blue
He stood and watched the others play
He did not know what to do.
I stopped a moment and then I said,
“Why don’t you join the others, dear?”
He looked ahead without a word.
And then I knew, he couldn’t hear.
Oh, God, forgive me when I whine.
I have 2 ears…, the world is mine.
~~~
With feet to take me where I’d go.
With eyes to see the sunset’s glow.
With ears to hear what I would know.
Oh, God, forgive me when I whine.
I’ve been blessed indeed…, The world is mine.
—-
Sorrow looks back,
Worry looks around,
Faith looks up.

The blind who WILL NOT see
The blind who WILL NOT see
May 29, 2019 9:01 am

One great biblical truth, ” he that is forgiven much, loves,( is humble, gratful, and forgives others) much”.

No matter how wonderful the things of this current world can be at times the perfect beauty of the coming newly redeemed earth after the second advent of Jesus will be beyond anything our current human mind can comprehend.

Outwitlibs
Outwitlibs
  The blind who WILL NOT see
May 29, 2019 9:08 am

Newly redeemed earth? I fail to see where you believe the earth will be redeemed, but Gods own word tells us it will be destroyed. (II Peter 3:10-12) Heaven is the place to strive for in our short lives.

brewer55
brewer55
  Outwitlibs
May 29, 2019 9:21 am

‘The blind who WILL NOT see” is correct. Briefly, when the current world does come to an end during the battle of Armageddon, after Christ as trampled the enemy , Jesus will rule for 1000 years, on earth, from the New Jerusalem.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  brewer55
May 29, 2019 1:28 pm

The battle of Armageddon is over; the bad guys won. The battlefield is within each of us and the high ground lost in every instant we remain blind to humanity’s Divine Union.

Christ dwells in pure love and doesn’t “trample” anything.

Sure, humanity’s 4 Horsemen are coming, and will be unleashed in a way that dwarfs prior conflict, but the world won’t ‘end’. It’ll sure as “HELL” be remembered for all time.

When the magnetic Van Allen belts dissipate during a pole ‘realignment’, it will create a rift in our time/space continuum) and we will enter ‘time and a half’ (“a time, times, and half a time” (Daniel 7:25, Daniel 12:7).

What becomes visible in the ‘overlap’ will create mass insanity. Revelations, prophetic visions offered from much simpler times, didn’t have a vocabulary that could convey the ‘local’ planetary ripping of time/space. Prophesy cannot help but oversimplify and overcomplicate simultaneously.

Man’s hubris is beyond measure. His ‘loving’ qualities can hardly be measured.

Jesus is the most man humble ever; His gentle, loving heart embraced everyone.

Their is no fiercer, all-consuming battle than the one we wage within to reclaim our Holy heritage, the wisdom needed to forgive someone as they rip out your eyeballs. He’s not coming back to teach the same class everybody flunked. He waits in your heart.

Brewer55
Brewer55
  Diogenes’ Dung
May 29, 2019 1:50 pm

DD, with all due respect, you seem to have picked a few pieces from the bible, and then filled in the blanks with your own ideas of what you believe is going to happen. Sorry, it just doesn’t work that way. You can’t cherry pick the verses that fit your narrative. You accept as a whole, or you might as well throw it all out. Jesus came first as the lamb, the blood sacrifice, the atonement for the sins of everyone; past, present & future. It is the belief in that that gives anyone that believes, Jew & Gentile, everlasting life and their name written in the book of life. He promised to come again but, the next time as the lion with a sword. Everyone that has refused to believe and is set up against God will be trampled underneath. The battle of Armageddon has not yet transpired so, I’m not sure what you are talking about on that one. Once Satan and his ilk are cast down into the lake of fire, Jesus will set up his millennial reign. There is much of all of this (John the Revelator) that is hard to understand but, that’s ok, at least for me. I accept it as truth and on faith. This post is not to admonish, but to inform. God Bless!

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  Brewer55
May 29, 2019 2:13 pm

Not understanding will never be OK with me.

I base nothing on belief, only experience. I know what I know and nothing else.

I know that Jeebus as ‘lion with a sword’ tossing unbelievers into ‘Satan’s Lake of Fire’ before establishing ‘Believer Land’ is nothing but Papist horseshit.

Eat all you like; it won’t give me indigestion.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  Brewer55
May 30, 2019 7:24 pm

“DD, with all due respect, you seem to have picked a few pieces from the bible, and then filled in the blanks with your own ideas of what you believe is going to happen. Sorry, it just doesn’t work that way.”

That’s exactly what I did. It’s also what everybody does, including GCP. I take one shot with a 308 at one scripture. GCP loads his 100 round stacks of 20mm cannon scriptures into his demonflack gun and smokes my biplane.

I have fun being a kamikaze because it proves my point. Scriptures can be used to blow a demon-inspired argument to ‘forgive’ right out of the sky.

God won’t lower your ‘Good Book’ grade for refusing to forgive a demon, will He?

mark
mark
  Diogenes’ Dung
May 29, 2019 7:07 pm

DD,

That had me from the first sentance. You can grab it buddy.

I follow you, but I wish you would stop with the ‘Jeebus’ cuz you can be profound…I don’t think you mean the disrespect that makes me cringe…so there is that. But, I am old school and my filter is long out of date. Not looking to offend you.

Keep it coming…that was good.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  mark
May 29, 2019 10:18 pm

I get frustrated like anyone else and it weathers my manners at times. I add nothing to my message by being disrespectful. Thanks for the tune-up.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Outwitlibs
May 29, 2019 5:05 pm

Have you asked yourself why it will be destroyed, for what purpose? It is to eradicate sin. When once sin is eradicated, that which is left will be redeemed in both the heavenly and earthly realms (Rev 21-22). Both the heaven and the earth are fallen. Both require redemption back to God via Christ. Israel is the mechanism by which the earth is redeemed (95% of the Bible). The church, the body of Christ is the mechanism by which the heaven is redeemed (Paul’s epistles).

The 2-fold purpose of God. Redeem all of fallen creation, for; in the beginning God created the heaven AND the earth. Rightly divide between prophesy (that which has to do with the earth – Israel) and mystery (that which has to do with heaven – the body).

“Heaven is the place to strive for in our short lives.”

Agreed 100%…

Col 3:1-3… “If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.”

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  grace country pastor
May 29, 2019 5:55 pm

God is going to burn down the barn to kill all the rats that don’t disappear in a “Rapture’ of faith/belief, to be reborn where there are no Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims, Daoists, Zoroastrians. or… anything but harp-plucking, feather-groomers?

Because then all the sin will bee gone? With those who invented sin ensuring harmony?

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  The blind who WILL NOT see
May 29, 2019 12:57 pm

WILL NOT: That giant boulder of truth tumbles down from God’s Mountain everywhere in every instant…

… and bounces off of almost every head unnoticed.

Forgiving everyone for every transgression is the only way Christ is reborn within anyone. Nobody can tell another when His 2nd coming will occur because it is an individual choice.

Christ had the ‘power’ to stop His crucifixion and did not because he knew His example would eventually be understood and embraced by all, his last words echoed in every mortal heart. “Father, forgive them for they do not know what they are doing” Luke 23:34

If you can forgive, and ask everyone to forgive, those who are torturing you to death, Christ dwells in you, and you in Christ. His 2nd coming is history.

Brewer55
Brewer55
  Diogenes’ Dung
May 29, 2019 5:08 pm

You start to make a little sense and then you go completely off the rails. Dude, what are you smoking?

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  Brewer55
May 29, 2019 5:57 pm

An Indica hybrid called ‘Forgive or Else”.

Makes you forget why you wanted to kill somebody.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
May 29, 2019 9:51 am

“I was angry that the inevitable shit-show was taking too long get started and the waiting to die was killing me.”

Isn’t that amazing… the one hand and the other? And likely somewhat common around these parts… Tom Petty did say the waiting is the hardest part. But death itself, is it to be feared or welcomed? I’d say that depends upon ones present spiritual condition.

1 Corinthians 15:35-58 KJB…

[35] But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?

[36] Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:

[37] And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:

[38] But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.

[39] All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.

[40] There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.

[41] There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.

[42] So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:

[43] It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:

[44] It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

[45] And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

[46] Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

[47] The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

[48] As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.

[49] And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

[50] Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

[51] Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

[52] In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

[53] For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

[54] So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

[55] O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

[56] The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

[57] But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

[58] Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.

These earthy bodies will pass away; they, being imperfect, cannot be in the presence of Perfection. I welcome the passing away of this fallen corpse; the arrival of the physical new creature I’ve already been spiritually transformed into (2 Cor 5:17). Such glorification cannot happen until I either die or God translates His body, the church out of this world. A celestial body fit to be in the Lords heavenly presence awaits all men saved by the gospel revealed to Paul.

Philippians 3:20-21 KJB… “For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.”

Till then, I press on… enjoying that which is to be enjoyed and enduring that which is to be endured, to the best of my limited ability.

Philippians 3:13-14 KJB… “Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before, I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.”

Such endeavor is anything but vanity. A life worth living. A life anyone may live. A life that will make a difference here on earth, and in eternity.

Romans 8:18-23 KJB… “For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

The saved are redeemed from sins penalty (eternal death), now. The saved will be redeemed from sins presence (glorified, as Christ currently is) someday.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  grace country pastor
May 29, 2019 1:46 pm

I no longer fear death. The ability to move outside our corporal flesh isn’t that difficult to learn and, once attained, it becomes abundantly clear that our consciousness doesn’t require flesh.

The fear of dying is another matter entirely. Everyone still sucking air fears dying badly.

We all live to serve a purpose we chose. Most forget what they came here for. I’ve remembered and the only thing I fear about death is not finishing my task before a particularly stupid choice rings my bell.

If I make the choices that fulfil my purpose, I’ll be ‘redeemed’ to a life I’ve already lived.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Diogenes’ Dung
May 29, 2019 2:23 pm

Be very careful DD… methinks you’re treading some dangerous (unBiblical) ground.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  grace country pastor
May 29, 2019 2:50 pm

Of course you think it’s dangerous. Historically speaking, my words were punishable by death. I’m an apostate at the very least, heretical for sure, and would’ve invited execution by the Holy Christians in this country at any time 300 years ago. Hanging and ‘pressing to death’ a favorite in Salem/1693. The ‘cultural’ overhang is still present today in the fear of God’s wrath for not believing He throws sinners into a burning lake of fire forever. Preposterous.

What I know is the result of experimentation with tools that every Christian doctrine sprouting from the KJB claims are Satan’s. I wonder why? They’re easily performed and it takes no faith or belief at all to confirm what they reveal.

Since long before the Spanish inquisition, books containing these practices have been burned by Christians along with those who even spoke of them. It’s why these teachings can only be found ‘within’ today. ‘Those who know don’t say ands those who say don’t know’. Until one learns to ‘live’ outside the body, this world is an inverted mirror that distorts truth. Every religion has a hand in that distortion.

Jesus taught Soul-Realization techniques that included fasting and ‘prayer’ that was practiced in many forms. These techniques enabled one to find absolute liberty outside of their mortal coil, with no danger at all to anyone. Every existential threat to humanity today can be traced back to the Papists refusal to include those teaching in Council of Nicaea in325 AD. It usurped their control of illiterate, ignorant masses.

Papists use ‘belief’ and ‘faith’ like wild cards in a game of poker. You’re more likely to wager everything you own if you’re holding either.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Diogenes’ Dung
May 29, 2019 2:54 pm

Ok then…

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
  Diogenes’ Dung
May 29, 2019 3:04 pm

Dio Dung,

Sounds like something a masonic Rosacrucian or Illuminati master might suggest. Don’t worry your “works” and Logic can help you ascend to a higher vibrational level and become the master…

“Those who know don’t say”…i wonder why? Please tell us oh ascended master why those who know don’t say…im sure it has nothing to do with their indoctrination into the secret mysteries of the universe that they supposedly have come to through their own God given abilities…

I’m sure it has nothing to do with the rule that prohibits them from offering advice unless asked…because that might influence another person’s free will and ultimate revelations learned and blah blah blah….

Brewer55
Brewer55
  Platoplubius
May 29, 2019 5:17 pm

Yes, and why pride is the greatest sin of all. Jesus told people to stay away from practices that DD is mentioning because there are usually demonic presences behind them. Satan, aka Lucifer — the light bearer — likes to mimic God and “light” and will sometimes tell 99 truths to float one lie. That one lie, however, is a killer!

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Brewer55
May 29, 2019 8:21 pm

Yes. satan is a counterfeiter.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  Brewer55
May 30, 2019 7:41 pm

Jerk.

I didn’t mention any ‘practices’ in enough detail for you to have a clue what I was talking about. Your lie is the killer. You condemn what you can’t define.

Revealing my ‘prayers’ in enough detail for others to perform them without the requisite preparation is a violation of spiritual law. I don’t.

There are no demons involved in what I do to find alignment. The exercises are too powerful for negative forms to interfere or even remain in proximity to the planes where they resonate. I have shared the dangers I encountered as a youth who practiced these ‘prayers’ (against stern warnings) while using hard drugs. That was a lesson I learned very quickly. It became, in all aspects, “Holy Shit!”

The biggest lie ever told to humanity has been a Papist doctrine that is pure truth (ironic, huh?): There is no way to heaven except through Jesus.

Jesus’ message was ineffably simple and profoundly difficult. Forgive all; first, grievances against others, then those you have with yourself.

That’s my truth and I’m sticking with it.

brewer55
brewer55
  Diogenes’ Dung
May 30, 2019 8:29 pm

Jerk? Ok, I’m done here. I end my comments by saying I truly wish you the best and, I hope you find truth, not my truth, not your truth — HIS TRUTH. (by the way, you’ve mentioned ‘papist’ a few times; I’m not catholic, and never have been). Have a great day.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  brewer55
June 1, 2019 12:39 am

I have no beef with anyone well-intended.

You cannot say (accuse others) with good intent, that pride is the motivator behind anyone’s inner exploration when you have absolutely no idea what drives a person to seek answers within.

Inciting fear of the ‘tools’ known long before Christ’s birth to retrace our steps back to heaven is an abominable act. ‘Jerk’ hardly suffices to describe the misplaced pride needed to flaunt ignorance.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  Platoplubius
May 29, 2019 5:24 pm

Those who have tasted even a small crumb of truth know it is a personal experience.

My truth and beauty arise from personal experience, and what may be beautiful truth to me could be a horror for another. Is there anything that reeks of hubris more than telling another what their truth is?

That’s all I meant. Nobody who knows truth will pretend to tell you they know yours. The ‘Secrets of the Universe’ are only concealed from those who think they know your truth when they don’t know theirs.

My abilities are no different than anyone else’s. My experiences of consciousness outside my body are part of everyone’s capabilities if they have a healthy body. They make faith in life beyond this one unnecessary, it becomes an experienced fact. No ‘belief’ is required that we are all cared for by a loving Sheppard when we return to our rightful abode in our truth and beauty.

The ever-nascent terror that divides this world into good and evil is the belief that those who do not believe as we do will burn in hellfire for eternity. Let’s both pose a ‘wiseass’ question to GCP about exactly how that goes down:

Step 1. Sin. Or get born into it.
Step 2. Refuse to repent.
Step 3. Forget to get baptized.
Step 4. Die.
Step 5. Get Judged.
Step 6. Discover your name isn’t in the ‘Good Book’.
Step 7. Get handed over to Satan.
Step 8. Burn in hell FOREVER.

I miss anything, GCP? Surely getting to Hell is a 12-Step Program?

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Diogenes’ Dung
May 29, 2019 8:24 pm

Rom 5:8… “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.”

Simple. Christ did it all.

Hollywood Rob
Hollywood Rob
  Diogenes’ Dung
May 29, 2019 6:23 pm

And if you want a wand to conduct your machinations with I can supply you with one. Every one of them works. For real.

Tree Mike
Tree Mike
  Diogenes’ Dung
May 29, 2019 7:40 pm

DD, you know suppressed truths. (((They))) and Christians and Others need to scare people away from the the non-linear truth on the other side. As you said, when people find that non illusion truth, the PTB lose control of that individual. That’s dangerous info. I know I’m gonna die, I’m OK with it. It’s not what most people imagine, unfortunately for them.

old white guy
old white guy
  Diogenes’ Dung
May 30, 2019 7:13 am

I have found that more Christ and less theology is enlightening.

Brewer55
Brewer55
  grace country pastor
May 29, 2019 5:14 pm

Pastor, per his replies to my previous posts I’m now starting to think he may be part of the growing DMT (psychedelics) movement that is growing in leaps and bounds. They are looking for a ‘god-like’ experience through these drugs and yet, choose not to embrace the real Almighty God. They are getting a pseudo false experience of being out of body and in a peaceful transcendent state that is leaving them with the experience of the afterlife. There is not one thing that is biblical that Satan does not mock and attempt to use for his own purposes.
If I’m wrong with regard to DD being part of that movement, my apologies. However, he/she makes little sense in what he/she is purporting. It is twisted, and as you said, dangerous ground that has no biblical foundation.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  Brewer55
May 29, 2019 6:11 pm

You have not yet begun to think.

I don’t write anything likely to be understood by Kool-Ade drinkers who take it on faith that sugar is good for them.

Those who ‘interpret’ scripture to divide humanity into Heaven’s ‘Haves’ and ‘Have-nots’ do the Devil’s work. All my prayers are for unity, even with my demons. Nothing is outside God’s embrace and the propaganda that says otherwise is meant to control you, not show you the way to heaven. The key to Heaven is within everyone, and nobody is going to find it for you or hand it to you.

That’s a tough thing to accept for those who think they’re absolved without forgiving everyone that has hurt them or those they love.

I don’t espouse eternal damnation for anyone who doesn’t know what I know, and I fully understand how my thoughts defy those who adhere to other’s interpretations.

But exactly what is so demonic about saying nobody enters heaven without forgiving, and destroying a planet in Armageddon to incinerate sin seems a bit heavy-handed for an All-Power Being? Why not just rendition all the devil-worshipers to Hell and leave the good guys behind. God gets that wound up?

Really? He’s got an army of Angels building bunker-busters for Raytheon? No biblical foundation for that either, but it makes more sense than you do.

motley
motley
  Diogenes’ Dung
May 29, 2019 8:37 pm

The Bible talks about mankind. We … collectively …. have a purpose. To show ‘the universe that God does allow free will. That His creations can choose to worship Him voluntarily. There is a Bible passage that states (i’m paraphrasing) …. even the angels look on with wonder (at what is taking place on earth). I’m certain GCP could identify it quite readily.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  motley
May 29, 2019 10:47 pm

“His creations can choose to worship Him voluntarily.”

For 1500 of the last 2000 years, not ‘voluntarily’ worshiping the Christian God (and making it evident) would get you excommunicated if not executed. Catholics and Protestants, devout Christians all, cannot agree on God’s will. Why should I listen to any of them?

Do you know when Christian worship became voluntary? Do you remember the Protestan outrage when that Papist, Jack Kennedy, was elected? Why exactly, were the Protestants outraged. Jack Kennedy was a Christian, wasn’t he?

Humanity’s collective purpose is to learn to love each other as Christ loves us, and to become a co-creator with God. Humanity is still finger-painting in pre-school and many think they’re college professors.

When I claim Jesus taught ways to know our Heavenly Father without an interlocutor that the ‘Ministry’ provides, be it Papist or Protestant, I am accused of consorting in a dangerous demon realm. They have absolutely no idea what I’m talking about except “It sounds like blah, blah, blah.

Neither God nor Jesus required me to show my “Demon-Free’ certification before showing me my mansion in Heaven. I no longer need their help to find it and the only demons I worry about are the unelected people running our country.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Diogenes’ Dung
May 30, 2019 10:02 am

“Why should I listen to any of them?”

You shouldn’t listen to any of them. That includes me. If you speak of Christ you should study and consider seriously the book He wrote.

John 1:1-3, 14… “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”

2 Tim 3:16… “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:”

2 Peter 1:20-21… “Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

You keep returning to people, DD. I keep returning to scripture.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  grace country pastor
May 30, 2019 3:11 pm

Read the Book Christ wrote? Did you really write that? Christ didn’t write any books. His ‘gospel’ was written long after his death by people; humans, each fallible, biased, and limited in their knowledge of unseen spheres.

Scripture is “inspired by God”? Says who? The same Papist power-mongers who insisted that God favors eternal damnation for unrepentant sinners, and conversion by the sword for those who refuse to worship ‘voluntarily’? Those are/were ‘scripture-inspired’ atrocities that have no origin in heavenly realms, they are demonic retribution against people who are born to fail and we all do fail. And then try again.

Even the most devout Christians disagree on what the Bibles scriptures mean or are intended to reveal. All Protestant sects arose from Martin Luther’s defiance of the ‘scripture-inspired’ Papist doctrines that shackled humanity in servitude of pedophiles.

Surely ‘scriptures’ inform us that it was God’s will that Saint Peter’s Catholic Domain be ripped asunder by Martin Luther, who Pope Leo X described “one whose faith is notoriously suspect and in fact a true heretic.”

Is there a greater ‘Christian Authority’ than the Pope? Certainly declaring Protestants heretics was based upon ‘scripture? Do you wear you heresy proudly? I do. Papists are Satan’s henchmen. No ‘scripture can convince me otherwise. The only way to build an empire over humanity is by controlling them with their ignorance. “Scriptural” interpretations have made it easy.

Could the Holy, Roman, Papists have become the most wealthy, powerful, influential ‘Institution’ ever known in this world without the threat of eternal hellfire damnation for those who didn’t worship ‘voluntarily’ and complete the seven sacraments, or paid ‘Indulgences’ for a ‘Heaven Pass’?

No doubt the ‘Heaven Pass’ had some scripture quote on it;

“Admit one, free of charges” by Order of the Pope.

I turn to people because I know that the concept of ‘eternal damnation’ is a ‘scriptural lie’ meant to conceal the truth and fleece the ignorant. The Catholic Church is evil; where does scripture say it spawned a beautiful truth in its heretics, Protestants? Who got it right? Papists, Protestants, or the long-forgotten, redacted Arians?

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Diogenes’ Dung
May 30, 2019 5:53 pm

“Read the Book Christ wrote? Did you really write that?”

Yes, I did. I mean it too. If you ever decide to study the book seriously, you will quickly come to the conclusion that man could not have possibly written it; and wouldn’t even if he could.

“Scripture is “inspired by God”? Says who?”

Says God… the Being who wrote the book. Study it and you will quickly come to the conclusion that its truth is self evident.

“The same Papist power-mongers…”

See, you keep returning to people. I keep coming back to one book.

“…conversion by the sword…”

You’re doing it again. Confusing religion (that which PEOPLE DO) with Christianity (what God did). There is no “conversion by the sword”. One either recognizes his fallen state and receives the gift God offers (salvation by way of the cross) or one does not. Has nothing to do with us and everything to do with Him.

“Even the most devout Christians disagree on what the Bibles scriptures mean or are intended to reveal.”

So what? Yet again… people. The words say what they mean and mean what they say. God does not stutter. They’re not open to the line of thinking which claims “I know that’s what they say, but that’s not what they mean.”

“All Protestant sects arose from Martin Luther’s defiance of the ‘scripture-inspired’ Papist doctrines that shackled humanity in servitude of pedophiles.”

People… more and more people.

“Is there a greater ‘Christian Authority’ than the Pope?”

The pope is a people too. He is no authority whatsoever. In my opinion, he (his office) occupies the role of false prophet of the unholy trinity.

“Do you wear you heresy proudly? I do. Papists are Satan’s henchmen.”

If by heresy you mean deviation from papist doctrine, yes I do. The catholic church is a tool of satan used to deceive billions. As are most protestant denominations. But then again, they’re all made up of what? People. Only the book is correct about the book.

“Could the Holy, Roman, Papists have become the most wealthy, powerful, influential ‘Institution’ ever known in this world without the threat of eternal hellfire damnation for those who didn’t worship ‘voluntarily’ and complete the seven sacraments, or paid ‘Indulgences’ for a ‘Heaven Pass’?”

No. They have used eternal damnation and many other Biblical and unBiblical doctrines to their incredible benefit. That does not mean eternal damnation is not real. Sin will be dealt with. The flood is the Bibles greatest example of Gods near complete judgement upon the world.

“I turn to people because I know that the concept of ‘eternal damnation’ is a ‘scriptural lie’ meant to conceal the truth and fleece the ignorant.”

Mark 3:28-29… “Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.

Mark 9:43-48… “And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

Hard words indeed. From Jesus Himself (spoken to Israel of course – Mat 15:24). Bodies that die forever become worms; not glorified celestial bodies as described in 1 Cor 15. How do YOU get to make the claim that it is a scriptural lie when it’s right there in scripture? Who made YOU arbiter of scriptural truth? Oh, I get it… you’re a people too! You are the ultimate arbiter of Truth; not the Creator, Jesus Christ… (Interesting to note that Paul never utters the word hell; though he knows it’s there.) I don’t make claims that I can’t back up with rightly divided scripture. I’m not interested in what I have to say as I’m not an arbiter of Truth. I’m interested in what the book says. I simply communicate Gods Truth to the best of my ability. That’s what an ambassador does. He speaks to one party on behalf of another. He speaks what he’s been told to speak. Nothing more.

“The Catholic Church is evil; where does scripture say it spawned a beautiful truth in its heretics, Protestants? Who got it right? Papists, Protestants, or the long-forgotten, redacted Arians?”

I agree. Turns out that NONE of those PEOPLE got it right. They all open the book to private interpretation, forming their own religions and denominations; rather than just allowing the words to say what they say, to whom they are said, when they are spoken. The Bible is a timeline meant to be read as such with a past (Gen-Acts) a present (Rom-Phil) and a future (Heb-Rev).

Examine it, or don’t. Your call. Make claims about it that are demonstrably untrue and I’ll call them out.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  grace country pastor
May 30, 2019 7:52 pm

“The catholic church is a tool of satan used to deceive billions.”

That’s a not so beautiful truth we agree upon 100%. Your thoughtful replies make your truth more beautiful every time I read them. Thank you.

I’ll need to digest our sumptuous exchange for a while. More poop later.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Diogenes’ Dung
May 30, 2019 10:14 pm

?

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  motley
May 30, 2019 10:27 am

Exactly what I’m talking about elsewhere, sir motley… the mystery hidden until God revealed it to Paul.

Eph 3:8-11… “Unto me (Paul, singular…), who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ (riches not found in past scripture – compare with John 5:39); And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the MYSTERY, which from the beginning of the world hath been HID in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ: To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God, According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:”

The good stuff right here! Not just meat… filet mignon!

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  grace country pastor
May 30, 2019 6:19 pm

I like yellowfin tuna, raw.

Search any online engine: “What doe ‘insert scripture’ mean?

You’ll get different interpretations of scripture, each from devout God-fearing Christians who have repented and accepted that Jesus’ sacrifice was their salvation.

There’s plenty of disagreement on fundamental issues that the Bible presents as ‘scriptural mysteries’ … you know, they provide enough latitude for Catholics and Protectants to murder each other as they did frequently and still sometimes do in merry old Ireland. Bibles ought to clear matters up, but scripture can be used to justify anything. Even killing other Christians.

Here’s what scripture provides all its proponents, even as they disagree about what any particular scripture means. It offers an impenetrable argument that unquestioned faith in God’s perfect plan is required to understand it. Mnnn’hmm…

“One must immerse themselves in the Bible as an entirety to understand the synergy of its scriptural mosaic, revealed only to those who can read God’s Morse Code, who bring understanding to those of unshakable faith, whose belief in one interpretation or another is unassailable”

“God, who created all things by Jesus Christ.” Says who? Papist do, because Papists who branded Arians heretics just as they did the Protestants heretics won that argument over Jesus’ divine nature. Was he born with it or did he earn it?

The Arians, who cares what they thought? Emperor Constantine ended their influence in Christian theology; banned the teaching that Christ was a man who ascended to full understanding of God’s plan, which filled Him with God’s grace. And Papists killed those who dared say that any man could follow Christ’s teachings and become His sibling.

Since 325 AD, humanity has been going to Church in the short bus.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Diogenes’ Dung
May 30, 2019 7:01 pm

“It offers an impenetrable argument that unquestioned faith in God’s perfect plan is required to understand it.”

Actually, just a solid understanding of sixth grade English is required.

Mistico (EC)
Mistico (EC)
  Diogenes’ Dung
May 30, 2019 11:01 pm

Protectants can’t be all bad.

The more you write, the stupider you sound, DDung. The bible isn’t like math where all the problems have been solved for you. You read it, you absorb it and God illuminates you further. Certainly one can’t understand it alone, there is that veil over your eyes.
————————
The letter that you wrote me made me stop and wonder why
But I guess you felt like you had to set things right
Just remember this, my girl, when you look up in the sky
You can see the stars and still not see the light (that’s right)

Well, I know it wasn’t you who held me down
Heaven knows it wasn’t you who set me free
So often times it happens that we live our lives in chains
And we never even know we have the key

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  Mistico (EC)
May 31, 2019 10:01 pm

I couldn’t care les how I sound to people. I know only stupid people think I’m stupid. Who did I say was BAD? Nobody is all bad, and nobody is without a ‘bad’ thought.

I pointed out that Protestants killed pagans for the same reasons papists did, just as Roman pagans killed Christians for the same reason Muslims do.

I illuminate myself by forgiving. It is the only act that elevates me and everyone else.

Hollywood Rob
Hollywood Rob
  Brewer55
May 29, 2019 6:29 pm

You yourself, and GCP both have come to your belief through faith. There is no other path. It is through faith alone that ye shall be raised up. You have no biblical foundation. You have no foundation what so ever. You have only faith. So don’t bother to denigrate DD’s belief system because it has no biblical foundation. His faith has exactly the same foundation as yours does, but his is based on his own experiences whereas yours is spoon fed to you as pablum to a child.

motley
motley
  Hollywood Rob
May 29, 2019 8:43 pm

How many times have you actually read the Bible? I would readily discern …. not once. The revelation …. the understanding and the acceptance of Jesus Christ can be achieved only with a desire and hunger to know our Creator. I am not spouting nonsense. I was YOU only a decade or so ago. I recognize and feel your rebellion. And where exactly is that getting you? I guess upon death … you …. me …. we’ll all find out. But. You aren’t dead just yet. Whenever someone makes me mad, I try to analyse what they said that triggered me. Why? Because we can only get upset when someone speaks the truth to and about us. So why not take your hostility … and apply it to understanding the Word of God. Read the New Testament 2 or 3 tmes. Read it with an open mind. I can guarantee … it will change your life … only forever.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  Hollywood Rob
May 29, 2019 11:00 pm

Never expected to hear your bugle calling up reinforcements. It feel s like I’m surrounded by naysayers that I actually agree with for the most part.

I don’t mean to imply that faith and belief are useless. I had no faith that the spiritual exercises I performed (my prayers) would reveal truth but they did. I had no belief that I would find an inner voice to guide me with The Word, but I did.

It did require faith in my experience to trust my inner voice, because I did not always interpret the instruction I was given correctly. Trial and error improved my comprehension dramatically and I now KNOW that I will be answered with loving guidance if I ask. I also know there will be times I misunderstand if I act in haste before contemplating matters fully.

Demons do not guide me, but they do tempt me. Demons tempt all good people; it’s what they do. Everybody will eventually meet who they are working for.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Brewer55
May 30, 2019 9:42 am

Some doors are not (yet) meant to be opened. Been there. A long time ago.

“There is not one thing that is biblical that Satan does not mock and attempt to use for his own purposes.”

Absolutely correct. he counterfeits everything.

2 Cor 11:14.. “And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.”

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  grace country pastor
May 30, 2019 6:57 pm

GCP, if you had EVER been where I have been – spelunking into the denser, hidden parts of yourself, emerging into OUR collective subconscious, you would be 100% certain that no man ever escapes his animal nature until he opens his inner door.

You know scripture very well, but you are a stranger to OUR subconscious. It is easily seen as a place that mocks everything held sacred; there are no sacred cows. Nothing is excluded in favor of anything else. EVERYTHING is there. Everything. It is pure chaos until one acclimates to the power inherent in each of us. Our God-given spark of creativity that empowers us to create our own heaven out of chaos.

Suuuure, there are demons there, and angels too. There are indescribably beautiful heavens and mind-paralyzing Hells. Been to both, and my best work has been rescuing forgotten parts of myself in hells I created to hide them/me from my past.

Our subconscious IS purgatory. I don’t recommend it as a playground; it isn’t. It can be a trap if fear consumes one. But I’m convinced it’s a good thing to learn to navigate its infinite corridors before winding up in one when we are done here.

Scriptural recitation doesn’t help a whole lot in the Subconscious Valley, scariest place ever. Jesus lived and ministered consciously from much higher planes, even while living in flesh (In this world, but not of it). The transit from this world to the next has a subconscious departure terminal. Even Jesus, on a subconscious runway to Heaven from his cross, asked “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” You’ll know you are there when you feel lost. Nobody really is, it just feels that way.

All mysteries have their answers inside each of us, and nobody is too weak to kick the Devil’s ass..

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Diogenes’ Dung
May 30, 2019 7:11 pm

“Even Jesus, on a subconscious runway to Heaven from his cross, asked “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?””

He was quoting Psalm 22:1… you know, the words He Himself inspired David to write. He did that to once again demonstrate to unbelieving Israel that (had they read their own scripture) He was who He said He was.

Where I’ve been, what I’ve experienced, considering what you’re saying, is none of your business. Do you presume to know me DD?

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  grace country pastor
June 1, 2019 12:57 am

I do not presume to know you and nothing I’ve written implies that I think I do. What I do know is that anyone who has explored OUR collective subconscious fearlessly will report that there is nothing to fear.

I would not presume to know you if I knew your deepest secrets, your most terrifying fears.

I would like to know you better than I do, but I already know you are a good man.

I have shared what I have experienced on a deep personal level, ‘my business’, which is nobody else’s, and some gleefully shit on it. I’m at least 50% Dung because I shit myself. No big deal.

Why do you ask a question with no antecedent? What was my presumption?

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Diogenes’ Dung
June 1, 2019 9:57 am

“What was my presumption?”

That all Christians couldn’t know what you are trying to explain.

I’ve seen th’other side too. Artificially rendered. Some doors are not yet meant to be opened. God will open them at the right time.

Angels (fallen/unfallen) are not supposed to be dealing with man today. At all. A Godly separation exists. Their purpose in this world is to Israel. Israel is (temporarily) fallen. If any are dealing with man, can’t trust em.

Galatians 1:8 KJB… “But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.”

Paul says this because in the next dispensation an angel WILL be preaching a gospel appropriate to that time period.

Revelation 14:6-7 KJB… “And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.”

It’s not yet time for the world to hear the everlasting gospel. God has declared a (temporary) peace treaty!

Romans 5:1 KJB… “Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:”

It’s time the world hears the gospel of grace appropriate to it. That gospel to which Paul speaks.

Romans 5:8 KJB… “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.”

Key concept… “while we were yet sinners”.

This is hard. But it’s not, really.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Diogenes’ Dung
June 1, 2019 9:59 am

Shoot me an email sometime… ?

Joints And Ganglions
Joints And Ganglions
May 29, 2019 9:54 am

The wisdom of the piece is evident.

Yet, I would point out – fwiw and without judgement or poignancy – that the following line can be honestly questioned for validity now (and maybe some will want this info.):

Yet time waits on no one and our bodies wind down like clocks.

Not long back there was research released that showed quite clearly that the time and clocks spoken of here are related directly to telomerase lengths and senescence. The telomerase lengths can be increased to youth-status indefinitely by the utilization of some simple (yet expensive for one and for now) compounds. At least in mice/rats – research to prove it for people is going on now and looks to offer the same results.

The research initially released only showed sets of simple organic chemistry diagrams, but did not actually name the compounds involved.

However, if one took the time to research the research (or knew organic chem well) it could be seen that those compounds represented a combination of:

Dasatanib (a rather expensive cancer drug) and Quercetin (found anywhere for .20-.50 per pill, or so).

Even Quercetin combined with 1000mg daily of Resveratol makes giant differences (30%+ lifespan without deterioration).

I have no doubt that sometime shortly, if you have the resources and contacts, life-extension can become extremely lengthy, at a minimum (I would bet that already exists for some). At some point in the next 100 years, it will move beyond life extension and into life indefinitely. It sounds like magic, but it’s not – it is only Clarke’s third law:

3.) Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

The religious implications of all of this are an entirely different topic.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  Joints And Ganglions
May 29, 2019 10:09 am

Much like the old saw about those who seek power are the least deserving, I would say that anyone who desires immortality are those you would least want to see achieve it. If there were a more misguided endeavor I would be hard put to name it.

Death is not the end, it is merely a passage from one state into another. Humans have a myopic view of what is, and an almost Herculean ability do live in denial of that reality.

Joints And Ganglions
Joints And Ganglions
  Hardscrabble Farmer
May 29, 2019 10:49 am

I agree HSF -seeking immortality IS power. It will corrupt without fail in ways that can and cannot be foreseen. For all but the most vile it would become a heavy set of chains, indeed.

Seeking a longer life with better functionality for a longer time, though? Or maybe, choosing the time of passing yourself when you feel you are ready (100 years for some 50 for others and 500 for more, etc.) Is that a different story? Would Methuselah-lengths of 969 years be inappropriate?

These questions are subjective and almost unanswerable…but, if you would devote the time/energy, anyone here familiar with your writing/thoughts would probably like to hear them with regard to this aspect. It believe it relates to Doug’s piece, too.

Honest Buck
Honest Buck
  Joints And Ganglions
May 29, 2019 11:27 am

What if immortality was offered as a DNA upgrade with the mark of the beast before they soon realized what they had done? Buyer’s remorse of a biblical scale;

Revelation 9:6

‘And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.’

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  Honest Buck
May 29, 2019 2:20 pm

We have consciousness after death and for some, that becomes a ‘purgatory’ where they remain, undying, until they forgive others; then themselves.

It’s not mortal immortality that should frighten. Constructing one’s own prison where death is wanted is as simple as believing that your Soul can be blowtorched by the devil. Good luck with that one, because ‘belief is a strong operative in the next life; it creates hell if you believe you were bad.

We were all bad. Have you forgiven the bad people?

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  Joints And Ganglions
May 29, 2019 11:38 am

Altering the human lifespan through scientific tweaking is Malthusian in nature. The “scientists” injecting human dna into chimp brains, for example, are modern day Frankensteins.

“Do what that wilt hall be the shall be the whole of the law” is Satanic.

I’m nobody, but I oppose it.

Uncola
Uncola
  Hardscrabble Farmer
May 29, 2019 1:38 pm

I’m nobody, but I oppose it.

That shall, henceforth, remain my battle-cry… my rebel yell… before the shadows, all that has been twisted, and in the face of danger.

Ottomatik
Ottomatik
  Hardscrabble Farmer
May 29, 2019 1:57 pm

“I’m nobody, but I oppose it.”
For others, or just yourself?

Uncola
Uncola
  Ottomatik
May 29, 2019 2:05 pm

As for me, free will precludes coercion

Steve C
Steve C
  Hardscrabble Farmer
May 29, 2019 4:15 pm

“…Death is not the end, it is merely a passage from one state into another…”

66 years here. Parts are wearing out and I’m out of warranty, but I take comfort in reminding myself that what the caterpillar fears as death, the butterfly welcomes as new life.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Steve C
May 29, 2019 4:49 pm

🙂

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
  Joints And Ganglions
May 29, 2019 11:35 am

Immortality is not only an immoral pipe dream, it would be a disaster because it would halt evolution in this already overcrowded world…

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  pyrrhus
May 29, 2019 11:08 pm

immortality of the Soul is the only thing that supports evolution.

Nobody gets it right the first time, and nobody living today is living for the first time. Reincarnation is a fact that was redacted from the Bible because it negates eternal damnation, the most coercive sentence ever levied by any ‘Ministry of God.”

How rich and powerful would the Catholic Church have become without ‘eternal damnation’?

Right. It would’ve been a fad, like Chucky Cheese, only not as much fun for kids who though confession was a silly concept. “Confession”? Are you kidding me? The original ‘Deep State’ were Papists who knew everybody dirty secrets.

niebo
niebo
  Diogenes’ Dung
May 30, 2019 1:52 pm

Reincarnation . . . negates eternal damnation

I must disagree, with respect: since mankind is separated from the presence of God since the garden, the notion of reincarnation, a vast repetition of life after life after life (separated) . . . is, itself, hell.

The word for death, as used in the Greek scriptures, is THANATOS: “(derived from 2348 /thnḗskō, “to die”) – physical or spiritual death; (figuratively) *SEPARATION FROM THE LIFE (SALVATION) OF GOD FOREVER *by dying without first experiencing death to self to receive His gift of salvation.”

*emphasis mine

https://biblehub.com/str/greek/2288.htm

Just sayin’

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  niebo
May 30, 2019 3:39 pm

What silly notions you hold. They keep you “separated from the presence of God” as part of your chosen illusion.

Nothing exists outside of God’s presence. God is within everything and everyone, waiting to be discovered. Each of us has the ability to experience “dying without first experiencing death” and there are many spiritual exercises to help one experience life after death BEFORE they die.

Of course, those exercises are condemned as demonic by every Christian sect, and no Christian that condemns them has ever tried them. They don’t need to, because ‘scripture’ makes everyone an informed authority over matters they have no experience with and do not understand.

Ottomatik
Ottomatik
  Joints And Ganglions
May 29, 2019 1:56 pm

The Singularity approaches.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
May 29, 2019 10:04 am

Soon to be 58 and while slower than before I am still out there pounding the trails, roads and hitting the weights in the gym. The reset/crunch is coming but I would be doing this anyways. KInd of funny, some snowflake was holding a sign on the corner saying “Vote for any politician that believes Climate Change is a lethal threat”…..so I rolled down the window and flipped him off, “you are a F’ing moron” I said….then he said “Shut up old man”…..and I started looking around for who he was talking to! Ha! Made me smile.

The snowflake has no idea that I was much more radical than he will ever be and I can still kick his ass, but that is the folly of youth.

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 29, 2019 10:11 am

Nice piece Un. Suppose it would do little good to ask the God-squad to turn off their filters. Never mind, my fault for reading the comments.

M G
M G
May 29, 2019 10:12 am

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Of course, that eye peers through a lens clouded by socialization in a culture awash in religious, moral and ethical beliefs conflicted with legalistic traditions and politicians intent on controlling all of mankind by any means necessary.

I am also not invincible. That’s what the armor is for.

“There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance—that principle is contempt prior to investigation.”
— Herbert Spencer

With the richest irony being that Spencer probably did not say it at all. Meaning some bigot so refused to see the truth in the statement they went to great trouble to prove it was not said.

As bigots do… thus the armor.

https://anonpress.org/spencer/

the stupid-it burns
the stupid-it burns
May 29, 2019 10:53 am

me and God have a deal, He doesn’t afflict me with boils and locusts and I don’t rail at Him when things go wrong, sometimes stuff just goes wrong, and God is the steel in your spine that allows you to stand up to them. Sometimes though I wish instead of giving man free will, he could have included some common sense. Like Tevye, would it spoil some vast eternal plan, if I were a wealthy man.

The blind who WILL NOT see
The blind who WILL NOT see
  the stupid-it burns
May 29, 2019 11:44 am

RegardIng great monetary and material wealth the bible teaches it is harder for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God than for a camel to go through the eye of a needle.
Read the story of Jesus and the rich young ruler.
Much better to be rich in the grace, mercy and forgiveness of God than damned in the riches of the world.

Stucky
Stucky
May 29, 2019 11:02 am

Hello, Uncola.

I called you a “Dick” (several times) in my “Pledging Allegiance” post last week. I did so because you “outed” me for not giving attribution to the post … which I copied&pasted in it’s entirety. You did not respond to my chastisement. I surmise you refrained for several possible reasons;

— 1) You didn’t see it.

— 2) You saw it …. and said (to yourself) — “Stucky the Snowflake can go fuck himself”

— 3) You imitated Jesus … because he also kept silent in the face of his accusers.

I’m going with number three.

Cuz I took my meds. We’re still pals, right?

M G
M G
  Stucky
May 29, 2019 11:12 am

Shit happens.

Silence is a perfectly valid and acceptable response, in my opinion.

Toss the meds… ferment yourself some decent food.

And, because the Amish assure me it is good for digestion? Make really good rich beer.

Stucky
Stucky
  M G
May 29, 2019 12:15 pm

haha You’re awesome, Mags. Hey, I’m glad you liked the Doggie article I submitted.

M G
M G
  Stucky
May 29, 2019 12:50 pm

Do you like it that a bunch of rosary bead counting lunatics are praying for Mary, Undoer of Knots to fix whatever is wrong with you and yours?

Do you think Jesus laughs too?

Edit: His mother too, provided she’s there and not confined to the heretical dungeon with the other jews.

Stucky
Stucky
  M G
May 29, 2019 6:18 pm

“Do you like it that a bunch of rosary bead counting lunatics are praying for Mary, Undoer of Knots to fix whatever is wrong with you and yours?”

ABSOLUTELY!

It doesn’t matter what I believe about prayer. I’m sure you’re familiar with the story about the guy who Jesus healed …. because of the faith of HIS FRIENDS. (I believe it was the dude they lowered through the roof.)

Keep staying on your knees, Mags! It’s how you can best service my ailments. Thank yeeew.

Uncola
Uncola
  Stucky
May 29, 2019 12:04 pm

Stucky says:

I called you a “Dick” (several times) in my “Pledging Allegiance” post last week. I did so because you “outed” me for not giving attribution to the post … which I copied&pasted in it’s entirety. You did not respond to my chastisement.

Actually, Stuck, that was on Robert Gore’s “Julian Assange” thread. Since I’ve been busier of late, I’ve been checking in around the noon hour and then when I get back to my desk later in the day. What’s funny is that I did circle back on that one but only saw your response to Hollywood Rob that “you did not write it”.

So, in short, I missed your longer (and later) reply to me (i.e. # 1 above)

But I just went back and saw it. Lol

You crack me up, dude. Honestly, would you believe my main goal with that was to protect your credibility? The post (awesome as it was) did not present in the way you normally write and I figured it was an oversight. In my opinion, the dick move would have been to accuse you of plagiarism – BUT – I knew that wasn’t possible because of you’re ever-consistent honesty. So that was why I was so delicate in saying as follows:

It was, obviously, just a mere oversight by Stuck (probably in haste) for not attributing the post as such.

Of course, we’re still pals. We’re like butter and popcorn, baby. Ice cream and cake. Trump and Twitter. Forever and ever… (we’ll you get the idea)

Stucky
Stucky
  Uncola
May 29, 2019 12:13 pm

“Of course, we’re still pals.”

Well that’s a relief. Really.

Upon further reflection of my rejection of your motivation it seems that I may have engaged in psychological projection. In other words … the real Dick was probably, ME! heh heh

mistico
mistico
  Stucky
May 29, 2019 12:34 pm

I would have to go kick Unc’s ass for being a limp-wristed faggot if he unfriended you over such a minor offense. Around here, a friendly knife stab in the thigh is not grounds for unfriending.

Ottomatik
Ottomatik
  mistico
May 29, 2019 2:02 pm

Here here! Whats a little slashing amongst rebels, required fare in these parts, ask any noob, hell, ask anyone.

M G
M G
  Stucky
May 29, 2019 12:57 pm

I am betting most of the people here minus one or two grasp that you’ve a lot on your mind. And only the single hand available.

mistico - 100% macho
mistico - 100% macho
  M G
May 30, 2019 1:22 pm
M G
M G
  Uncola
May 29, 2019 12:54 pm

I just want you to know I never doubt that deep down inside you still like me.

mistico
mistico
  M G
May 29, 2019 1:08 pm

Your my favorite, Maggoo, we’ll always have that night at the beach sans cullottes

KeyserSusie
KeyserSusie
  Uncola
May 29, 2019 3:24 pm

Like peas and carrots. Forest Gump

I’m stealing “like trump and twitter!”

Uncola
Uncola
  KeyserSusie
May 29, 2019 6:34 pm

And how did I forget peanut butter and jelly? Old age, I guess

Stucky
Stucky
May 29, 2019 11:21 am

” ….. telling the interviewer that he had grown “weary of life” and that he welcomed death. …. It made me ask the question: ‘What’s the point?'”

Wow. I get the “weary of life” story EVERY FUCKEN DAY OF MY LIFE …. from my mother. Except she says it this way, ” I wish I would just die today. Why can’t I die??!!”

I don’t think anyone can understand how debilitating that is emotionally and psychologically to the person hearing it (me) unless you actually experience it. It wears me the fuck out in ways I can’t express.

I’m also dealing with Ms Freud’s heart issues (open heart surgery due next month) and cognitive issues. I find myself also asking, and I mean literally asking myself — “What’s the point?”. [Of course, I am Stucky so, I actually ask myself, “What’s the fucking point?!”]

You answered thusly (and it’s worth repeating);

“We cannot know light without darkness, or experience the comforting warmth of the hearth without a chill in the air. Nor can we fully appreciate day without night, each season without the other seasons, or decency without corruption. What is life without death, joy without suffering, living without dying?”

I love that!! You are so correct. Thanks for posting this thread … one of my most favorite things you have written … because it “scratches where I itch”.

It sounds to me like you have “the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding” — a marvelous gift to those who believe.

I am to some degree envious of you — because I don’t have that peace, because I don’t believe in the power of “prayer and supplication”. Nevertheless, you have given me great Food for Thought, and I appreciate that.

Uncola
Uncola
  Stucky
May 29, 2019 12:24 pm

As you likely know by now, Stuck, the above post originated on your “beautiful dog” post. So I was, in part, thinking of you as I wrote the words.

My thoughts and prayers go out to you and your wife: That her surgery goes well and with a successful recovery. I also know how hard it is to care for aging parents. We see half of our lives and half of theirs and it’s easy to lose focus; especially during difficult times.

In truth, I did not put these words out there without some feeling of dread. Perhaps from admitting weakness, overly engaging in self-indulgence, or something else – but, as always, the comments (and commenters) here make it all worthwhile. Furthermore, as I mentioned over on your other thread – it all counts in this Fourth Turning.

Again, thanks to everyone for your poignant and thought-provoking perspectives.

M G
M G
  Stucky
May 29, 2019 1:00 pm

and yet… I rejoice for you, Stuckenheimer, because one day soon, Mary, Undoer of Knots, is going to untangle all the mess.

I don’t really believe it, but since the SuperNovena crew volunteered, I do my part.

Boldly.

Brewer55
Brewer55
  Stucky
May 29, 2019 5:26 pm

Stucky, I heard my mother talk similar to that for the last 4-5 years of her life. She outlived 2 husbands; my dad, and her 2nd husband, both dying of cancer. Ultimately, my mother, tired of life and loneliness, stopped taking her heart medication and she passed at 85. What saddens me the most is that she never made peace with God. She was angry at Him most of her life. (She lost a son, my brother, who died of leukemia at the ripe old age of 14). She saw life as too much heartache. .
Anyway, I know what you are going through and I hope for the best for you, your mother, and your wife.

Stucky
Stucky
  Brewer55
May 29, 2019 6:21 pm

Thank You.

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
  Stucky
May 29, 2019 9:42 pm

Stuck, you are really in the thick of things. God bless.

A. R. Wasem
A. R. Wasem
May 29, 2019 11:38 am

Unless I were to be in constant, “intolerable” pain my mantra will be: “It’s better than the alternative”.

M G
M G
  A. R. Wasem
May 29, 2019 1:02 pm

Last spring I told my husband I was ready. He told me he didn’t give a shit if I was ready or not. I was going to the hospital.

So, here am I. Rejoicing in the Lord God of my Salvation and Healer of all Wounds.

I read that somewhere… Habbakuk 3:18?

Steven
Steven
May 29, 2019 12:25 pm

Thank you so much for this article! And to all the TBP ers, I love the comments, and knowing that people like me experience nearly the same reality. Blessings to you all

Old Toad of Green Acres
Old Toad of Green Acres
May 29, 2019 12:28 pm

The stray that picked me up grabbed an egg put on the ground while I moved the chicken tractor this morning.
Raised my voice telling him in no uncertain terms that he better give that egg back.
Surprisingly, he walked over and dropped the unscathed egg in my hand. Good dog. Nice first retrieve.

lone wolf
lone wolf
May 29, 2019 12:30 pm

comment image

…pretty much sums up my sentiments…

mark
mark
  lone wolf
May 29, 2019 7:53 pm

lone wolf,

Yea man…I reached a ‘Certain Age’ early.

I am now more dangerous than I ever was because I have survived so many confrontations…in so many ways…and have so many scars…and so many defeats…and so many victories…I have become an older man who doesn’t even have to COIL before I strike.

I just strike.

lone wolf
lone wolf
  mark
May 30, 2019 10:04 am

I feel you brother….
…like the saying goes… ” It’s the quiet ones you have to worry about…”

Not Sure
Not Sure
May 29, 2019 12:34 pm

Beautiful.

I’m on the other side of 60 and came to the realization a few weeks ago my potential of producing is over and from this point forward I’ll just be attempting to maintain what I have left.

Needless to say, I had to reevaluate my life to face this truth, or try to ignore it by chasing foolish youthful desires; kind of like a grandmother putting on a bathing suit that her granddaughters should be wearing.

Thank God for God, who reminds me I do not have to rely on my old creation, but that I am a new creation in Him. This allows me to still appreciate beauty and to not be jealous of possessing something I can no longer possess.

I do appreciate your path of discovery and hope all the best to you. As our bodies wind down and as our republic also enters into its sunset, finding the beauty in life becomes all the more important. Love to all.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  Not Sure
May 29, 2019 2:06 pm

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. At our age, they have more productive potential than ever, though more likely than ever to be ignored.

KeyserSusie
KeyserSusie
May 29, 2019 12:46 pm

I watched that Buckley interview. Sometimes I have that same feeling. He was weary of debating Gore Vidal’s persistent pestering.

M G
M G
  KeyserSusie
May 29, 2019 1:05 pm

I do like your perspective on things Whosie Susie… I think, were we to meet, I would offer you beans and rice in bigass cans that have another 20 years or so before they “expire.”

KeyserSusie
KeyserSusie
  M G
May 29, 2019 1:24 pm

I don’t buy green bananas…

BB
BB
  M G
May 29, 2019 1:44 pm

I’m 58 and my body has been breaking down for a while now. At this rate I don’t know how much longer I have left .I do plan on driving my commercial truck for as long as I can. For some reason it does give me joy being out on the road with my cat and all of you on the Burning Platform.
I do feel bad for the young people who have been betrayed by the CFR types of which William Buckley was a life long member. In many ways he was just another traitor. He knew what the others were doing and planning but never to my knowledge revealed their treasonous behavior.He like others knew their goal was to destroy America economically and then enslaved us .So I don’t have a lot of respect for him .
With all the research I have done and are doing I know without any doubt we have been betrayed and lie to on just about everything.The only TRUTH I have found is the Lord Jesus Christ and His Word. He is my Hope for what’s left of this world and the next. I do feel a deep since of gratitude for my life and the family I was born into. To all have a great day.

Uncola
Uncola
  BB
May 29, 2019 2:02 pm

Yo Beebs – he [Buckely] was also Skull and Bones member who later worked for the CIA

mark
mark
  Uncola
May 29, 2019 8:22 pm

Yep…and I thought I miss spent my miss spernt yout…

Uncola
Uncola
  mark
May 29, 2019 9:58 pm

Yo Mark. After I read your very powerful Memorial Day poem, I kept surfing while considering how I wanted to comment on that thread. Unfortunately, I never circled back but I just wanted you to know how much I appreciated you sharing it. Thanks man

mark
mark
  Uncola
May 29, 2019 11:52 pm

Thanks Uncola…greatly appreciate you taking the time, means a lot to me.

motley
motley
  BB
May 29, 2019 8:50 pm

You the man . B.B.

KeyserSusie
KeyserSusie
  M G
May 29, 2019 2:35 pm

Warning, Trigger lyrics ahead!

“I’m tryin’ to find a place where I can live my life
And maybe eat some steak with my beans and rice

A place where my kids can play outside
Without livin’ in fear of a drive-by
And even if I get away from them drive-by killers
I still got to worry about those snitch ass niggas
I keep on searching and I keep on looking
But niggas are the same from Watts to Brooklyn
I try to keep my faith in my people
But sometimes my people be acting like they evil”

Come on down to da beach hood and take a ride in my ’65.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2oGQiAUbNk

Uncola
Uncola
  KeyserSusie
May 29, 2019 1:58 pm

Keyser says: “I watched that Buckley interview.”

OK. Now ya made me want to go find it. It took me a short while, but here is the segment where Buckley said this:

Because… I’m tired of life…

I really am… utterly prepared to stop… living on. There are no enticements that justify the weariness… the repetition…

All in all, it was a strange exchange and, obviously (as demonstrated in the above post), a memorable one.

bigfoot
bigfoot
  Uncola
May 29, 2019 4:37 pm

Rose Wilder Lane: As water judges a swimmer’s rightness in swimming, God judges a man’s rightness in living.

Free will is a gift only if right action is what you do as a matter of course. Otherwise when you act in contrary to what you know to be right, you live in perpetual conflict and prefer death to change. The absolute tragedy of resisting change is that your consciousness is immortal and you will be back to face again what you did not face before, over and over until the tragedy ends and something new exists.

messianicdruid
messianicdruid
May 29, 2019 2:26 pm

The “world” is not the planet. When you see world in scripture read it as world system, that thing developed out of the rebellion. When heaven comes to earth [ the planet ] this system [ the world ] will have been eradicated. Consider Obadiah.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  messianicdruid
May 29, 2019 4:53 pm

Upvoted.

“When heaven comes to earth [ the planet ] this system [ the world ] will have been eradicated.”

And that’s only the half of it…

1 Cor 6:3… “Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?”

Mangledman
Mangledman
May 29, 2019 5:09 pm

Well done!

Robert Gore
Robert Gore
May 29, 2019 6:57 pm

Doug,

I hope the best of life continues to come your way, and with your insights into the human condition, it probably will. Good article, I just posted it.

Uncola
Uncola
  Robert Gore
May 29, 2019 8:04 pm

Yessir. Thank you, Robert

Horst
Horst
May 29, 2019 7:02 pm

Even in a dark night, there is some light. Evil is not needed to enjoy creation. The no good without evil narrative is new age.

Uncola
Uncola
  Horst
May 29, 2019 8:08 pm

You may be right, Horst. But I wonder if one could be experientially weighted, or subjectively compared, without the other

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  Uncola
May 29, 2019 11:15 pm

This world is unique in one aspect. It is the fulcrum world in spiritual evolution, perfectly balanced between good and evil, night and day, sin and redemption, love and indifference, ecstasy and agony, tragedy and comedy.

None of those things are needed to enjoy creation, but our extremely difficult spiritual training ground wouldn’t offer life as a ‘Divine Gift’ if everything in this world did not lend us a hand in discovering who we are. The good and bad of this world are part of everyone living on it.

Nobody is pure.

Aodh Macraynall
Aodh Macraynall
May 29, 2019 10:59 pm

Well, Doug Lynn just sucked all the fookin’ air outta my party.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
May 29, 2019 11:57 pm

Most of you will still be reading books when mine is published. “Soul in a Tub” is a chronical past lives I have lived, then lived again. Those who term it ‘Past Life Recall” have misnamed it. Past lives aren’t recalled, they are relived, in an instant outside of time. It’s easy for me to enter a trance while soaking in a warm tub. My tub has become my spiritual retreat where I ask questions.

Jesus demonstrated that the Soul can leave flesh after death, and then reanimate life within a ‘dead’ body. Christians expect Jesus to return in the flesh.

Yet their own return to flesh, as an infant newborn, cannot be considered by Christians. The ‘Arians vs Papists’ Christianity Rumble in Nicaea, 325 AD, was an argument over whether Jesus was a mortal man who became ‘Deified’, a ‘Son of God’ through perfected ‘worship’ of God, or whether He was born THE ‘Son of God’ without having to ‘earn’ it.

Arians taught reincarnation; Papists were adamantly opposed to its inclusion in the Bible. I was there. It is one of my stories.

My book begins with my last life, which ended tragically, when I was 14. I could not bring myself to shoot an advance scout in Sherman’s army. It was shortly after dawn, and he emerged from a thicket without seeing me and I had him in my sights.

My sister, 16, came looking for me as I was scouting the edges of our fields, following my footsteps in the dew. She saw him the same instant I did, and he saw her. She screamed at me, “Fire! Fire!, FIRE!”

As I turned toward her voice, a bullet shattered my head. I watched, disembodied, as she was raped by a man who fell in love with her as he violated her. I emerged from my pre-dawn trance badly shaken, trembling, haunted, wanting to weep.

I looked at gaunt eyes in the mirror that were afraid to look into mine, and I heard my 3-year old daughter scream from her sleep, down the hallway, “Fire! Fire! FIRE!”

She is married to that union scout today, with a beautiful truth born of horrific evil. My Grandson.

mistico - 100% macho
mistico - 100% macho
  Diogenes’ Dung
May 30, 2019 1:19 pm

Uhm, past life regression was popular in the 80’s. There was also a fascination with angels and fairies. Nancy Reagan popularized fortune tellers.
—————————–
For the time will come when men will not tolerate sound doctrine, but with itching ears they will gather around themselves teachers to suit their own desires. 4So they will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.…

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  mistico - 100% macho
May 30, 2019 3:49 pm

Nobody can teach anyone the truth inside of them. Our best teacher is found by searching within.

Those who know inner peace will tell you that is the only place it is found, not in another’s answers, another’s myths, another’s scriptures used to conceal truth, or another nations laws across a sea.

Mistico (EC)
Mistico (EC)
  Diogenes’ Dung
May 31, 2019 12:03 am

I have not tried to teach you what you should know, I don’t even know you. If you read slowly, I was declining your ‘truth’ offering.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  Mistico (EC)
May 31, 2019 2:47 pm

I didn’t offer you anything that you could decline, or tried to teach you what you should know. One makes their inner journey alone, and we all find something inside ourselves that is uniquely ours.

If you read slowly, I wasn’t offering anything to anyone except my experience that truth is found within, and it illuminated my darkness.

Mistico (EC)
Mistico (EC)
  Diogenes’ Dung
May 31, 2019 11:18 pm
Anonymous
Anonymous
May 30, 2019 12:32 pm

The chief aim of man is to glorify God and enjoy him forever. Simple.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  Anonymous
May 30, 2019 3:53 pm

God counts the Glory chips we pile at His feet? Does he ever get enough?

Does He throw away counterfeit coins from those deemed Heretics by the Pope?

Does God buy Jesus Christmas gifts with His Glory coins?

How much time do the eternally damned get to Glorify God before he sparks their Bunsen Burner?

Are those questions simple enough, Chief Aim?

Mistico (EC)
Mistico (EC)
  Diogenes’ Dung
May 30, 2019 11:08 pm

There’s nothing wrong with you, DDung, that a good exorcism can’t cure..

Mistico (EC)
Mistico (EC)
  Diogenes’ Dung
May 30, 2019 11:56 pm

You are being facetious but it only hints at the darkness within. How sad.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  Mistico (EC)
May 31, 2019 2:28 pm

Being facetious is sad, dad? You should take a smile break.

An exorcist would drill a dry well in my darkness. Demons take a hint a lot quicker than morans.

Mistico (EC)
Mistico (EC)
  Diogenes’ Dung
May 31, 2019 11:16 pm

Your not the first atheist here, Jack. I’ve heard it all before. You guys are worse than vegans. Nobody gives a rat’s ass that you are an atheist. If you were queer somebody might care but atheists have to find their own reason for living. Are atheists born that way like LGBTQ people or do they go to atheist church to become empty vessels?

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  Mistico (EC)
June 1, 2019 1:19 am

Did you get a ticket to reclaim your darkness from The Youngblood’s cloak closet?

How did you dredge Atheist from anything I’ve written?

I’m Agnostic, for sure. It’s idiotic to assume human consciousness can embrace 0.0001% of what God is. We cannot. Who understands omnipotence, omnipresence, omniscience – in all things, at all times, all knowing. You?

I know God is the creator of all, dwells within all, and loves all. That’s all I know about God.

Tell us more about how faggots and their LGBTQ butt beads find a reason for living. You’re an expert on empty vessels, yes?

Mistico (EC)
Mistico (EC)
  Diogenes’ Dung
June 1, 2019 2:33 am

An agnostic is somebody who doesn’t have the balls to come out as atheist. Your like the closet fairy who lives with mom because he hasn’t found the perfect girl. I can’t believe in all your inner searching, you didn’t find out you are atheist. You should take a flashlight next time.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  Mistico (EC)
June 1, 2019 9:12 am

Your ‘balls’ qualification is nuts.

Atheists don’t believe in the existence of God; Agnostics do. They just don’t think humans have the capacity to understand God enough to define Him. You make the argument compelling.

Anyone who spends five minutes with me would laugh at your opinions of me. If I’ve blathered on about anything, it’s my refusal to ‘believe’ something I haven’t experienced.

Why would anyone care what you believe or that your obsession with my sexual orientation arises from insecurity about yours.

Shark
Shark
May 31, 2019 8:58 am

Good grief, this comments section reads like the quasi-religious frothing diatribes in a lunatic asylum.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  Shark
May 31, 2019 3:12 pm

Don’t it though; couldn’t have described it more accurately. Big Thumb Up.

Beautiful Truth is the high ground all Religions claim, while frothing about every other quasi-religion’s obvious lunacy…

… and Uncola enlarges our asylum every time he writes.

Mistico (EC)
Mistico (EC)
  Shark
May 31, 2019 11:09 pm

Don’t be a baby, Shark.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  Mistico (EC)
June 1, 2019 1:20 am

Don’t be a dick, Weenie.

A cruel accountant
A cruel accountant
May 31, 2019 9:50 pm

If you want to feel better check out barbell medicine. I feel 20 years and am stronger than most 20 year olds. I also fuck better too.

Mistico (EC)
Mistico (EC)
  A cruel accountant
May 31, 2019 11:11 pm

If you are female, we might be interested, otherwise who gives a fuck?

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  Mistico (EC)
June 1, 2019 1:21 am

The guys who can… go to the back of Obama’s line, limpdog.

Mistico (EC)
Mistico (EC)
  Diogenes’ Dung
June 1, 2019 2:35 am

At least I have a dick, clit boy.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  Mistico (EC)
June 1, 2019 9:19 am

Being a Prick isn’t the same as having a dick; except for you, a flaccid Mistico Prick drooling 2nd grade insults.