Will Trump Take Neocon Bait and Attack Iran Over Saudi Strike?

Guest Post by Ron Paul

The recent attacks on Saudi oil facilities by Yemeni Houthi forces demonstrate once again that an aggressive foreign policy often brings unintended consequences and can result in blowback. In 2015 Saudi Arabia attacked its neighbor, Yemen, because a coup in that country ousted the Saudi-backed dictator. Four years later Yemen is in ruins, with nearly 100,000 Yemenis killed and millions more facing death by starvation. It has been rightly called the worst humanitarian catastrophe on the planet.

But rich and powerful Saudi Arabia did not defeat Yemen. In fact, the Saudis last month asked the Trump Administration to help facilitate talks with the Houthis in hopes that the war, which has cost Saudi Arabia tens of billions of dollars, could finally end without Saudi crown prince Mohammad bin Salman losing too much face. Washington admitted earlier this month that those talks had begun.

The surprise Houthi attack on Saturday disrupted half of Saudi Arabia’s oil and gas production and shocked Washington. Predictably, however, the neocons are using the attack to call for war with Iran!

Sen. Lindsay Graham, one of the few people in Washington who makes John Bolton look like a dove, Tweeted yesterday that, “It is now time for the US to put on the table an attack on Iranian oil refineries…” Graham is the perfect embodiment of the saying, “when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.” No matter what the problem, for Graham the solution is war.

Likewise, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo – who is supposed to represent US diplomacy – jumped to blame Iran for the attack on Saudi Arabia, Tweeting that, “Iran has now launched an unprecedented attack on the world’s energy supply.” Of course, he provided no evidence even as the Houthis themselves took responsibility for the bombing.

What is remarkable is that all of Washington’s warmongers are ready for war over what is actually a retaliatory strike by a country that is the victim of Saudi aggression, not the aggressor itself. Yemen did not attack Saudi Arabia in 2015. It was the other way around. If you start a war and the other country fights back, you should not be entitled to complain about how unfair the whole thing is.

The establishment reaction to the Yemeni oilfield strike reminds me of a hearing in the House Foreign Affairs Committee just before the US launched the 2003 Iraq war. As I was arguing against the authorization for that war, I pointed out that Iraq had never attacked the United States. One of my colleagues stopped me in mid-sentence, saying, “let me remind the gentleman that the Iraqis have been shooting at our planes for years.” True, but those planes were bombing Iraq!

The neocons want a US war on Iran at any cost. They may feel temporarily at a disadvantage with the departure of their ally in the Trump Administration, John Bolton. However, the sad truth is that there are plenty more John Boltons in the Administration. And they have allies in the Lindsay Grahams in Congress.

Yemen has demonstrated that it can fight back against Saudi aggression. The only sensible way forward is for a rapid end to this four-year travesty, and the Saudis would be wise to wake up to the mess they’ve created for themselves. Whatever the case, US participation in Saudi Arabia’s war on Yemen must end immediately and neocon lies about Iran’s role in the war must be refuted and resisted.

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47 Comments
overthecliff
overthecliff
September 16, 2019 12:29 pm

Where are the Arab mohammedans who conquered 1/2 the western world ? They can’t win a war with Yemen with the latest US military hardware??!! 100,000 dead mohammedans is a good start but damn the Saudis need to get their poop in a group.

Lebowski
Lebowski
  overthecliff
September 16, 2019 1:37 pm

Not really but a dead idiot like you would be nice

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Lebowski
September 16, 2019 8:49 pm

Mohammedans are my enemy as well as enemies of all western civilization. Anyone who kills them is doing me a favor. Even if that anyone is also my enemy. The world is a better place without Mohammedans.

Morongobill
Morongobill
  overthecliff
September 17, 2019 9:55 am

Their souls are steeling the Houthi’s resolve to win this.

Jack Lovett
Jack Lovett
September 16, 2019 12:30 pm

I would Hope Iran’s first move would be to bomb Wa. DC. Take it off the map.

Stucky
Stucky
September 16, 2019 12:40 pm

I’m getting pretty goddamned sick and tired of Ron Paul’s pacifism. Just retire and go fishing ya old fuck!!!!

If taking out FIVE PERCENT of the WORLD’S oil production is reason enough to punish the perpetrators … then what is???? 50 percent? 80 percent? No! Fuktard Ron Paul would still be advocating peace-at-any-cost even at One Hundred Percent.

RP is a perfect example how extremism is very bad — in both directions. Just as Bolton is a fuktard for wanting to bomb everybody, so is RP for not wanting to bomb anybody.

Fuck Iran!!!! And Zara, too …. for lying to us all these years.

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
  Stucky
September 16, 2019 1:24 pm

Just as Bolton is a fuktard for wanting to bomb everybody, so is RP for not wanting to bomb anybody.

Correct!
That is precisely why we should have bombed state sponsor of terrorism Saudi Arabia a long time ago.

Lebowski
Lebowski
  Stucky
September 16, 2019 1:39 pm

Stucky what ya got stuck up your ass there son There’s NO proof that it was done by Iran and a very good chance it was a false flag in the same flavor as 911 Wake up and take your head out of the Zionists butt

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
  Lebowski
September 16, 2019 3:49 pm

Stucky what ya got stuck up your ass……

That’s why they call him Stucky.

Stucky
Stucky
  Lebowski
September 16, 2019 6:52 pm

“There’s NO proof that it was done by Iran ….”

Suddenly, in a flash of light, I understand why there are Pollack jokes.

Go suck on my Kielbasi, Leblowski.

EC
EC
  Stucky
September 16, 2019 4:28 pm

Rand

llpoh
llpoh
  Stucky
September 16, 2019 7:01 pm

Stuck – it annoys shit out of me that current monkeys are so stupid that they fall for your trolling hook, line, and sinker. This current batch of monkeys have zero capacity for sarcasm whatsoever.

Stucky
Stucky
  llpoh
September 16, 2019 7:03 pm

lol

It’s like taking candy from a baby.

llpoh
llpoh
  Stucky
September 16, 2019 7:28 pm

They should be Democrats, given they are so damn gullible. AOC is a damn genius compared to some of them (Lebowski, I am talking to you here – you need to get a pair of glasses that highlight sarcasm when you are reading).

BWD
BWD
  llpoh
September 16, 2019 9:32 pm

LLpoh, are you going to suck Stucky’s dick in front of all of us?

llpoh
llpoh
  BWD
September 16, 2019 10:02 pm

BlackWhoregoesDown – whoever the fuck you are, you really are clueless, aren’t you. You really should not post while bent over, as clearly it is restricting blood flow to your brain.

ursel doran
ursel doran
September 16, 2019 12:41 pm

The forbidden unspeakable gets spoken for consideration.

Saudi refinery attack. Another possible / likely source considering the timing, and the surgical precision of the hits, as seen on the photos. Just saying: http://www.321gold.com/edito…/moriarty/moriarty091619.html

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
September 16, 2019 1:10 pm

Why are we supposed to do something? How do we know it was not Saudis who did it? Al Qaeda hates the Saudi government. The Saudis have tortured and executed hundreds of people for what most of the world considers misdemeanors this year alone. I am confident there is a large revolutionary faction domestically. This could spin out of control so fast. Everybody’s oil fields are out in the open and hard to defend. Something just does not pass the smell test.

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
  Harrington Richardson
September 16, 2019 1:54 pm

Something just does not pass the smell test.

The Oil Thief In Chief smells oil!
‘We should have kept the oil in Iraq!’ ~ Donald Trump

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2017/01/21/trump-iraq-should-have-kept-oil/SwZlr5SwQeG5AkYf4NZelK/story.html

‘I would knock the hell out of them,’ and then ‘I’d take the oil for our country’ ~ Donald Trump

https://www.businessinsider.com/r-trumps-plan-for-islamic-state-put-a-ring-around-it-2015-8

Stucky
Stucky
September 16, 2019 1:11 pm

Not sure if Trump will take the bait.

Only one way to know for sure. What does “Q” say? (Other than ‘trust the plan’).

Lebowski
Lebowski
  Stucky
September 16, 2019 1:41 pm

He undoubtably will as he’s been shown to be nothing but a stooge for the Chabad who own the USSA

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
September 16, 2019 1:39 pm

Of course he’ll take the bait. Because the Trump administration is a Zionist Occupied Government.

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22winmag - Guns now, due process later DJT 2-28-19
22winmag - Guns now, due process later DJT 2-28-19
  Vote Harder
September 16, 2019 2:04 pm

Which makes the premise of the esteemed Ron Pauls latest column pointless and inane.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
September 16, 2019 1:40 pm

Why do anything? Let the Moose-Limbs kill each other….and hopefully wreck the entire ME oil industry…..that would be good for us…..and all we have do is nothing! Don’t touch the tar baby!

There is no winning with a tar baby …

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22winmag - Guns now, due process later DJT 2-28-19
22winmag - Guns now, due process later DJT 2-28-19
September 16, 2019 2:03 pm

Ron Paul is now officially a disinfo columnist worse than PCR and Pat Buchanan combined.

Trump is the Neocon.

Teleprompter readers don’t even need advisors.

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
September 16, 2019 2:10 pm

Question:

If oil were to go to around $100 or so a barrel, what would be the price at the pump for gas and diesel? Is there some sort of formula for this?

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Vote Harder
September 16, 2019 3:36 pm

It depends on where you live and how much tax your state adds to the price, but it would be north of $4.00 for most of America and $5 area in Californication and a couple of other socialist states.

We are just entering the post labor day price slump for gasoline, so it comes at a good time for XOM.

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
  TN Patriot
September 16, 2019 3:47 pm

That would really suck.

pb
pb
  TN Patriot
September 16, 2019 5:05 pm

Governments that do percentage taxing of fuels love it when these things happen.

Grog
Grog
  Vote Harder
September 16, 2019 7:22 pm

Vote Harder,
The rule of thumb is, How much Vaseline do you have on hand ?

TC
TC
September 16, 2019 2:28 pm

This bait is probably not for Trump, but rather for the American public. They have been chipping away at Iran, but I shudder to think what kind of false flag they are going to perform next to get an American public, sick of nearly 20 years of middle east wars, to become suddenly energized on that path.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  TC
September 16, 2019 7:25 pm

TN
Now you’re talking.
Anyone notice the calm everywhere. Stocks and PM’s hardly budged. Libtard and neocon press and tv doing business as usual titling windmills over tax returns and judges grabbing butts.
I must own my own wish that the Houthi’s really did do it. Looks like the missiles came from Saudi ground. Fracking just got Christmas early. Vlad finally endorsed Bibi.
We get to decide what color the new ribbons on the tailgates will be.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Fleabaggs
September 16, 2019 9:19 pm

Raytheon is on the move. Says to me as a long time holder that a lot of drones and Patriots and Tomahawks are on order. Bahrain just bought the Patriot system.
I do not think we are going to put more than a few spec-ops guys on the ground if this goes hot. All rockets and missiles. I actually believe Trump will offer Saudi all the hardware they want, but they are going to have to use it, not us.

Frank
Frank
September 16, 2019 3:17 pm

How about limiting our involvement to a popcorn concession stand?

CCRider
CCRider
September 16, 2019 3:30 pm

So Bolton gets heaved overboard for trying to kill innocent Iranians. Then BiBi (who could lose the election) gets his ass handed to him by Vlad and all of a sudden these tribal pygmies in Yemen pull off a sophisticated attack? I smell a false flag.

Absent a free press we have to speculate with what ‘news’ we’re being told. I start off wondering cui bono? Who profits from disruption in the ME? Who wants war with Iran? Israel.

Done.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  CCRider
September 16, 2019 3:40 pm

If we get distracted in a war with Iran, it would allow China to punish Hong Kong, Russia to “annex” Ukraine and who knows what the Paki’s and Indian’s might do to each other. It is best for us to sit on the sidelines and start producing more crude.

Graham Bell
Graham Bell
September 16, 2019 5:27 pm

If we had been using Ron Pauls foreign policy for years now this
wouldnt even be happening. No foreign entanglements, No problems
with foreigners.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  Graham Bell
September 16, 2019 6:17 pm

and we would all be speaking Russian, German or Chinese.

You are a slave
You are a slave
  Martel's Hammer
September 16, 2019 6:40 pm

Bullshit!
And why, because the Russians, Germans, and Chinese are all out to get us?
BULLSHIT!
You’ve been punked and Trumped and neoconned.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  You are a slave
September 16, 2019 8:26 pm

Newtonian physics….a body in motion tends to remain in motion until acted on by an opposing force. Sadly evil exists and if we don’t oppose eventually we get consumed by it…evil never stops until it is forced to. So Germany, the USSR or more recently the Chicoms….would conquer us unless we stop them. I agree strongly on avoiding foreign entanglements, as I advocated here with Iran but make sometimes we have to fight…..

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Martel's Hammer
September 16, 2019 10:18 pm

Would the Deutsch have gotten us before or after we fomented the lopsided Treaty of Versailles (e.g., He kept us out of war!)?

Would the ChiComs conquer us before or after our govt. gave them our missile and comms technologies (e.g., Los Alamos)?

Would the Soviets have gotten us before or after Yalta?

I’m trying to figure out if, like the Creator, there is a “starting point” we can identify. I believe there is.

Panzerlied
Panzerlied
  Martel's Hammer
September 16, 2019 10:31 pm

I would have to assume then that you’d prefer speaking Yiddish? Because that is what happens when evil is allowed to creep into every corner of the globe unopposed. You’ve been sipping the Kool-aid far too long to adopt a new strategy called critical thinking.

Shinmen Takezo
Shinmen Takezo
September 16, 2019 8:21 pm

I’m going with my first rule on this latest so-called ‘Iranian attack’ and it is thus…

Never, ever, ever believe any information coming out of the mouth of a US government employee.
Especially never, ever believe anything that comes out of one of our ‘spy agencies.’
Most important… never, ever believe anything that comes out of the mouth of someone wearing a US military uniform. Never. Don’t. All phony.

The militard’ goof-balls in DC now have Trump’s ear.
These are the same fuk-stains that backed the soft-coup against him.
And he believes them?

And if Iran does in fact attack Saudi Arabia… SO WHAT!?
How is this our problem?
How many fuks should we give?

Okay–all the flag-waving militard’ fags here are in fact believing this shit–once again.
They believed it when they/them said Iraq was unplugging baby incubators.
They believed it when they/them said Iraq had WMD’s.

And they’re believing all again.

Why don’t you fuckers wake the fuck up?!

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Shinmen Takezo
September 16, 2019 9:21 pm

Continue enjoying your alternate reality.

Shinmen Takezo
Shinmen Takezo
  Harrington Richardson
September 16, 2019 11:34 pm

It’s you who is living in an ‘alternate reality.’