In Memoriam: Reality

Guest Post by Jim Kunstler

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The Golden Golem of Greatness shifted into mad bull overdrive for last night’s Minneapolis fan rally, cussing and bellowing at the picadors of the Left who have been sticking lances in his neck for three years. Decorum is not Mr. Trump’s strong suit, but then the bull is not sent into the ring to negotiate politely for his life. The narrative of the bullring is certain death. The bull must do what he can within his nature to dispute it.

It’s in Mr. Trump’s nature to act the part of a reality TV star, and, of course, it is the nature of reality TV shows to be unreal. That is perhaps the ruling paradox of life in the USA these days. Saturated in unreality, the spectators (also called “voters”) flounder through a relentless barrage of narratives aimed at confounding them, with the unreal expectation that they can make sense of unreal things. In a place like Minneapolis of an October evening, you can go see the Joker movie or take in the President’s rally — and come away with the same sense of hyper-unreality. We’re no longer the nation we pretend to be and we don’t know it. Jokers are wild and the joke’s on us.

So it goes in these dangerous autumn days of The Fourth Turning. Something’s got to give, and all indications are it will happen where few are looking at the moment: the sideshow of money and banking. When things start slip-sliding away over in that alternative universe, Mr. Trump will be propelled into the role he was cast for in 2016: bag-holder for economic collapse. The global slowdown of productive activity and commerce is undermining a vast network of dubious financial obligations ruled by an overgrowth of loans that will never be paid back. Unlike New York real estate moguls, the whole world can’t just go into bankruptcy court and apply for a fresh start. The “workout” is brutal and produces epoch-defining trauma.

The nation has been too preoccupied with political mud-wrestling to notice that the US debt has gone hockey-stick parabolic, racking up $814 billion just since August. Math majors may see that’s close to a trillion dollars, or 4 percent of the total $22,837 trillion, just in a few months. Zowie! (Hat tip Steve St. Angelo.) Parabolic trends don’t end well. In the meantime, the Federal Reserve, as usual, attempts to “fix” the problems caused by excessive bad faith borrowing with additional excessive bad faith lending in its overnight repo operations and revamped non-QE QE. That’s telling you something about where the dollar is headed: history’s graveyard of dead currencies. The upshot is looking like an inflationary depression for the ages.

That event would kill the shale oil industry, and with it the prospects for continuing the mode of living that Americans consider normal. The shale oil producers will not be able to borrow more money from a crippled banking system to produce a type of oil that that is basically unprofitable to lift out of the ground. That’s when America starts to go medieval lifestyle-wise. The curious feature of this big picture is how the anxiety generated by these looming economic and financial tensions express themselves in politics as a sort of early warning system. The craziness of the Trump era — which is distributed pretty equally between both factions — represents the failure of all involved to cope with the mandates of reality, which really exists despite the illusions of our realty television zeitgeist.

The current impeachment frenzy is heading into a collision with these forces, along with the so-far secretive activities of Attorney General Barr and his deputy Mr. Durham. When that happens, Mr. Trump will not be the only mad bull in the national ring, and the nation will be notably short of toreadors. The whole bullring is liable to get busted up with quite a few fans gored in the ensuing mayhem. As I’ve averred before, don’t be surprised if the 2020 election doesn’t even happen. The institutional damage may be too deep.

History doesn’t like vacuums anymore than nature does, and what we’re facing is a vacuum of authority that the USA has never experienced before. That’s the final consequence of a society in which anything goes and nothing matters. Better check what you believe and who you believe in the days ahead, and recalibrate accordingly. This ain’t no foolin’ around.

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mark
mark
October 11, 2019 10:41 am

“Mr. Trump will be propelled into the role he was cast for in 2016: bag-holder for economic collapse.

This appears to me to be the greatest possibility in light of Trump speaking the truth about the stock market, and all the BS government stats as a candidate, then flipping into taking ownership of a completely controlled phony market, while touting the same BS government stats as creditable. What else can a reasonable person conclude?

We got Obama after the last crash and we could get whatever loon the Democrats put up after the Everything Bubble finally pops…right on cue.

If the Luciferian Globalists can cook people alive in their homes and in their cars while destroying entire towns with the trees around them untouched…with Direct Energy Weapons, with massive physical evidence all over the net in Vids, photos, and eye witness accounts, and hardly any masses of people even bother to shrug their shoulders:

THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH ANYTHING!

Lebowski
Lebowski
  mark
October 11, 2019 11:48 am

Directed energy weapons That reminds me of 911 where cars and fire trucks mysteriously self combusted with no readily explainable source of the fires

deplorably stanley
deplorably stanley
  mark
October 11, 2019 8:16 pm

“THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH ANYTHING!”

The murder of Jeffery Epstein is the perfect illustration of your point. They got rid of him in the crudest possible way, and that was the end of that.

John Galt
John Galt
  deplorably stanley
October 12, 2019 9:25 am

99% of americans just said “Jeffrey who?”

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  deplorably stanley
October 12, 2019 10:14 am

Again, this is why it is very difficult to weep for what is coming. When a nation has become so corrupted to the point of rationalizing why they don’t have time to hold pedophiles accountable, the game is over.

I grow tired of repeating myself, but Trump just bought us a bit of time. What we need is a Caesar. Risky yes, but not nearly as risky as SHTF and a Yugoslavia rerun.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Articles of Confederation
October 12, 2019 2:41 pm

pinochet,did his job & stepped down–

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  TampaRed
October 12, 2019 3:05 pm

Better to have a Caesar like Cincinnatus or Julius. They have control for the period of the crisis and step down. Much like Washington during the Convention, when the Army officers nearly mutinied.

We’ve already been through this situation in the nascent stages of our Republic, albeit when we had morals and really were a Republic.

CCRider
CCRider
October 11, 2019 10:42 am

Yup, could be the tipping point has arrived. What better harbinger of darkness than nancy fucking pilosi pining away about her precious constitution? Read the 4th amendment you scuzzy cunt.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
October 11, 2019 11:21 am

Everyone will know when the “unreal” arrives when people are dragged away kicking and screaming, disappearing, or they start shooting at anyone they don’t like.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Coalclinker
October 11, 2019 11:35 am

Who is “they?”

Lebowski
Lebowski
  Anonymous
October 11, 2019 11:49 am

Take a wild guess schmendrick

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Anonymous
October 11, 2019 11:54 am

anonass.
You know damn well who “They” is. Fukk off.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Fleabaggs
October 11, 2019 2:07 pm

If whoever starts shooting at whoever they don’t like, what precludes whoever they don’t like from shooting back? All down hill from there.

mark
mark
  Anonymous
October 11, 2019 2:42 pm

Anonymous,

This is who some of ‘they” are…if you really don’t know:

INTERNATIONAL BANKSTERS: Game of throne level international and national Bankster and Corporate Crime families who have intermarried over countless generations sealing their incestuous pact with the Devil as they rebuild their version of the Tower of Babel. The Rothschild’s and Rockefellers are obviously two of the most powerful and well known, but there are many more. The more recent Bushes and Clintons are really just low level gofers for the older more well established vampire clans.

From ‘Hang the Bankers’:

“The Four Horsemen of Banking (Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup and Wells Fargo) own the Four Horsemen of Oil (Exxon Mobil, Royal Dutch/Shell, BP and Chevron Texaco); in tandem with Deutsche Bank, BNP, Barclays and other European old money behemoths. But their monopoly over the global economy does not end at the edge of the oil patch.
According to company 10K filings to the SEC, the Four Horsemen of Banking are among the top ten stock holders of virtually every Fortune 500 corporation

So who then are the stockholders in these money center banks?

This information is guarded much more closely. My queries to bank regulatory agencies regarding stock ownership in the top 25 US bank holding companies were given Freedom of Information Act status, before being denied on “national security” grounds. This is rather ironic, since many of the bank’s stockholders reside in Europe.

One important repository for the wealth of the global oligarchy that owns these bank holding companies is US Trust Corporation – founded in 1853 and now owned by Bank of America. A recent US Trust Corporate Director and Honorary Trustee was Walter Rothschild. Other directors included Daniel Davison of JP Morgan Chase, Richard Tucker of Exxon Mobil, Daniel Roberts of Citigroup and Marshall Schwartz of Morgan Stanley.

J. W. McCallister, an oil industry insider with House of Saud connections, wrote in The Grim Reaper that information he acquired from Saudi bankers cited 80% ownership of the New York Federal Reserve Bank- by far the most powerful Fed branch- by just eight families, four of which reside in the US. They are the Goldman Sachs, Rockefellers, Lehmans and Kuhn Loebs of New York; the Rothschilds of Paris and London; the Warburgs of Hamburg; the Lazards of Paris; and the Israel Moses Seifs of Rome.

CPA Thomas D. Schauf corroborates McCallister’s claims, adding that ten banks control all twelve Federal Reserve Bank branches. He names N.M. Rothschild of London, Rothschild Bank of Berlin, Warburg Bank of Hamburg, Warburg Bank of Amsterdam, Lehman Brothers of New York, Lazard Brothers of Paris, Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York, Israel Moses Seif Bank of Italy, Goldman Sachs of New York and JP Morgan Chase Bank of New York. Schauf lists William Rockefeller, Paul Warburg, Jacob Schiff and James Stillman as individuals who own large shares of the Fed. The Schiffs are insiders at Kuhn Loeb. The Stillmans are Citigroup insiders, who married into the Rockefeller clan at the turn of the century.”

IN my opinion the Jewish façade is a beard, at the top of the one eye pyramid the Banksters are all Luciferians, along with countless numbers of their flying monkey politicians, celebrities, CEOs, billionairs, media grunts etc.

ottomatik
ottomatik
  mark
October 11, 2019 6:43 pm

Fuckin well done Mark.

mark
mark
  ottomatik
October 11, 2019 8:58 pm

ottomatik,

Thanks buddy. I’m working on a stand-alone post with more researched detail that also focuses on all the separate Flying Monkeys: secret societies, think tanks/foundations, groups, components, funded players, etc. all under the Luciferian HQ above in order of my subjective opinion of their historical impact and modern day importance.

We know the cancer has metastasized to all the cultural organs and the rabbit holes are everywhere and interconnected. I would like to map it out for myself.

Problem is TIME.

Fighting a drought, my part of NC has had over a four month intense summer with sparse rain then no rain the last six weeks, keeping everything alive, but also trying to build a house, etc. etc. etc.

I have always been a believer in know your enemy. Hope to put something up ‘eventually’ that is a decent recon.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  mark
October 12, 2019 11:50 am

You and I are in the same drought, brother. But in Tennessee. Droughts set off alarm bells in fauna. I had saved a Cox Orange Pippin from multiple deer ruttings and a pair of transplants, only to have it get girdled by a rabbit. It had grown 5′ this year, praise God.

Ironically, it was the Lord validating my planting methods, as my orchard is the only green area in the region, LOL. That’s what happens when you work to build soil rather than punish it.

God uses pain to teach us because happy happy joy joy doesn’t create the “Lessons Learned” for our daily Battle Update Briefings.

mark
mark
  Articles of Confederation
October 12, 2019 12:39 pm

Articles of Confederation,

Yea my brother…my place is green and my pond lush and loaded with bass, blue gills, brim and catfish (small spring but I run well water into it daily since the drought took hold).

I had to import tons of black gold leaf compost for my gardens, orchard, and grape arbors initially. I tilled it in or dug huge holes for the fruit and nut trees (45 last count) and berry bushes (30 last count). My place had concrete like hard packed clay but I work and feed the soil, compost the dickens out of it.

Have one of the more productive per minute wells in the area and adding a second soon.

Have you read this…I loved it!

“Do you desire to glorify God through the way you farm? Are you tired of reading books on farming and food production that ignore God as Creator? Have you ever wondered what agriculture would look like if it was based on the Bible instead of on evolution, Mother Nature, or the latest manipulations of life by science? In Born Again Dirt, Noah Sanders encourages Christian farmers to evaluate their farming methods in light of Scripture. This book looks at various Biblical principles related to agriculture and provides examples of practical application.

Topics covered include: -Designing farms as beautiful, fruitful homes. -Honoring God’s design in farm production -Growing crops that honor the Lord -Marketing as ministry -The idolatry of modern agriculture -Advantages of the farming lifestyle -Starting a farm and making a living.

Without claiming to have all the answers, Born Again Dirt seeks to inspire you to develop a vision for God-glorifying agriculture. This book is a must read for any Christian who is a full time farmer, backyard gardener, or for anyone who desires a more Biblical view of agriculture.”

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  mark
October 12, 2019 12:42 pm

No, I haven’t! Can’t wait to pick up a copy of it, thanks!!!

Sue Robinson
Sue Robinson
  mark
October 12, 2019 12:56 pm

Do it, Mark. We all will be grateful. Also, as a blue thumb carpenter and quite small house builder, just keep going! It is amazing how that works.
Good luck.

M G
M G
  mark
October 11, 2019 7:34 pm

If think that about says it.

SmallerGovNow
SmallerGovNow
  mark
October 12, 2019 8:35 am

Awesome post Mark!

a ninny mouse because fusion centers
a ninny mouse because fusion centers
  mark
October 13, 2019 12:36 pm

Satanists. Lucifer has a different program he’s pushing.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  Anonymous
October 11, 2019 3:28 pm

Hey queernonymous fucktard, you had better have a rat hole ready to go hiding in. Have you ever thought about any enemies you’ve made?

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Coalclinker
October 11, 2019 11:54 am

White Christcucks will board the cattle cars patriotically and demand their Constitutional rights all the way down the line. Good riddance.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  'Reality' Doug
October 11, 2019 3:45 pm

My advise to you: At night time don’t be walking in front of windows of a lighted room.

mark
mark
  'Reality' Doug
October 11, 2019 7:08 pm

Delusional Lost Doug,

There averages about 40 men in my small rural church on Sunday, about 30 of them are packing heat.

Many of them are former military and combat vets.

Obviously you have never read the book:

Psalm 144:1 – Of David. Blessed be the LORD, my rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle.

Or know what you are flapping your keyboard lips about.

THE ARMED CHRISTIAN
https://www.christiangunowner.com/armedchristian.html

SmallerGovNow
SmallerGovNow
  mark
October 12, 2019 8:38 am

I have a “bible” that I carry for that exact purpose. 38 special +P inside… Chip

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  'Reality' Doug
October 11, 2019 9:23 pm

My church is sponsoring it annual Men’s Range Night in 2 weeks. We will have around 75 men, some joined by their sons, shooting, trading weapons, competing and in general fellowship. Many of us carry on Sunday morning and are quite proficient with a number of weapons. We will not go silently onto the trains.

Duck N. Cover
Duck N. Cover
  TN Patriot
October 12, 2019 9:44 am

Because as it says in Matthew 5:38, “You have heard it was said, ‘eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’ You’re damn right. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek stand your ground, draw your gun, and shoot the fucker dead. And if anyone want to sue you and take your shirt, kill his whole family. For I am the lamb of God and I pack serious heat.” Isn’t that how it goes?

mark
mark
  Duck N. Cover
October 12, 2019 10:48 am

No of course not Ducky…we know better than that righteous blather you posted…there is a lot of Bible in-between the Holy Lamb’s first visit and the Warrior Lion of Juda’s upcoming return.

But, if you think me or the men in my church, WHO ALL PACK HEAT, are going to let some degenerate demon possessed loon rush in the door and shoot our families in the back (like in Texas not long ago) while they are worshiping the Living God, maybe you are one of those white ‘Christcucks’ poor Delusional Lost Doug was flapping his keyboard lips about.

We shouldn’t forget that Jesus is an example of strong fearless meekness. And he was anything but weak or a pushover. He overturned the tables in the Temple (Matthew 21:12-13). He talked tough sometimes, calling Peter “Satan” (Matthew 16:23) and the Pharisees “snakes” and “whitewashed tombs” (Matthew 23:27-33). He didn’t submit to anything or anyone unless he believed it was God’s will. No one could push him around. No way.

And yet he could forgive the cruelest people (Luke 23:33-37) (even blather mouth mockers like Doug). He showed compassion to the poor, the blind, the sick. He told the crowds, “Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls” (Matthew 11:28-29, ESV).

Get prepped up Ducky…when TSHTF the harvest will be ripe! Be prepared to stand for and defend all that is holy, true, good and right – your family and yourself. I have two cases of paperback Bibles ready if I make it to the real trials, persecution, and tribulation.

Obama nailed me, I cling to my Bible and my guns.

Remember these – Old and New Testament:

Exodus 15:3: “The LORD is a warrior; The LORD is His name.

Revelation 19:11-21 – The Warrior On The White Horse

11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse, and He who sat on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and wages war. 12 His eyes are a flame of fire, and on His head are many diadems; and He has a name written on Him which no one knows except Himself. 13 He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies which are in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, were following Him on white horses. 15 From His mouth comes a sharp sword, so that with it He may strike down the nations, and He will rule them with a rod of iron; and He treads the wine press of the fierce wrath of God, the Almighty. 16 And on His robe and on His thigh He has a name written, “KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.”

I may end up being one of these:

Revelation 6:9: When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained.

But it won’t be because I didn’t take a stand to DEFEND my family, and my brothers and sisters in Christ.

Duck N. Cover
Duck N. Cover
  mark
October 12, 2019 12:54 pm

Thou art a gasbag.

mark
mark
  Duck N. Cover
October 12, 2019 1:09 pm

That’s it???

You put up a self-righteous, exaggerated, holier than thou snotty challenge, I slap your smug face and give you a detailed retort and you just slink away with a slur???

Maybe you should change that D on your handle to an F? And Cover to Hide?

EC the vulgar
EC the vulgar
  mark
October 12, 2019 1:22 pm

He didn’t have much to begin with. Even in a movie, the character has a backstory that isn’t revealed in the story but the character plays to that and succeeds in conveying it in whatever lines he says. Rubber Ducky was being a smart ass and didn’t believe his own bullshit, he has no defense of his earlier statement.

Duck N. Cover
Duck N. Cover
  mark
October 12, 2019 2:08 pm

In the first place, I couldn’t resist pointing out the contradictions inherent in the post about deadly weapons in church. Instead of drawing on the elements of Christianity that call for compassion and positive solutions you opt for belligerence and confrontational violence.

Your bellicose and long-winded reply was nothing more than your spouting a bunch of scripture with precious little relevance to our current predicament. You contribute not to any productive discussion but the schoolyard-level trench warfare that passes for discourse in these coarse times.

I won’t plan to try to defend myself any more, choosing instead to draw on a piece of folk wisdom: “Never wrestle with a pig because you’ll both get covered in shit only the pig like it.”

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Duck N. Cover
October 12, 2019 2:49 pm

Whut?

mark
mark
  Duck N. Cover
October 12, 2019 3:11 pm

Duck N. Cover,

You couldn’t resist putting up a self-righteous, exaggerated, holier than thou snotty challenge…because that was exactly what you wrote.

Maybe if someone had deadly weapons inside the Texas Church mass shooting the demonic loon would have lost his life instead of those in the congregation?

So you stand against Christian (or anybody’s) common sense self-defense?

As far as these: “coarse times” buttercup you better pull your head out of sand it is stuck in…We are in a lot worse times then coarse.

I gave you enough scripture to make the points I wanted to press…if you see that as “bellicose” that is your problem not mine.

As far as debating on a blog, I don’t find the telepathy thing works well – but you try it…I think that might work for someone of your haughty and delicate temperament.

MORE OF GOD’S BELLICOSE WORDS:

In Luke 22:36, Jesus tells His remaining disciples, “If you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.” Jesus knew that now was the time when His followers would be threatened, and He upheld their right to self-defense. Just a short time later, Jesus is arrested, and Peter takes a sword and cuts off someone’s ear. Jesus rebukes Peter for that act (verses 49–51). Why? In his zeal to defend the Lord, Peter was standing in the way of God’s will. Jesus had told His disciples multiple times that He must be arrested, put on trial, and die (e.g., Matthew 17:22–23). In other words, Peter acted unwisely in that situation. We must have wisdom regarding when to fight and when not to.

Exodus 22 gives some clues about God’s attitude toward self-defense: “If a thief is caught breaking in at night and is struck a fatal blow, the defender is not guilty of bloodshed; but if it happens after sunrise, the defender is guilty of bloodshed” (Exodus 22:2–3). Two basic principles taught in this text are the right to own private property and the right to defend that property.

Jesus’ command to “turn the other cheek” (Matthew 5:39) has to do with our response to personal slights and offenses. Some situations may call for self-defense, but not retaliation in kind. The context of Jesus’ command is His teaching against the idea of “eye for eye, and tooth for tooth” (verse 38). Our self-defense is not a vengeful reaction to an offense. In fact, many offenses can simply be absorbed in forbearance and love.

The Bible never forbids self-defense, and believers are allowed to defend themselves and their families. (Even on TBP). But the fact that we are permitted to defend ourselves does not necessarily mean we must do so in every situation. Knowing God’s heart through reading His Word and relying on “the wisdom that comes from heaven” (James 3:17) will help us know how to best respond in situations that might call for self-defense.

Duck N. Cover
Duck N. Cover
  Duck N. Cover
October 12, 2019 4:05 pm

You’re right. My post was snotty, and I apologize. What I regard as a hypocrisy and a perversion of the basic tenets of Christian compassion brings out the worst in me.

mark
mark
  Duck N. Cover
October 12, 2019 4:45 pm

Now, that is true Christian humility buddy…I have apologized here more than once…as I too try to contain myself…but often escape.

We’re good my brother.

Duck N. Cover
Duck N. Cover
  mark
October 12, 2019 7:06 pm

Indeed. I’m sure I’d be more civil if we were debating face-to-face, which I suspect would be enjoyable.

EC the vulgar
EC the vulgar
  Duck N. Cover
October 12, 2019 7:19 pm

Ducky, I thought about it for a second and agreed with mark. In fact, Pastor Pangloss once commented that you can’t adopt the attitude that you are going to let people punch you and you don’t respond. That is an aberration and misunderstanding of Jesus. People like to paint his ministry as one of total meekness and submissiveness. Mark showed you where you are wrong but you just want to throw the stone and hide your hand. Then you come back and act superior. You’ve got issues.

Duck N. Cover
Duck N. Cover
  EC the vulgar
October 13, 2019 9:54 am

EC,
My perplexity comes from what I see as convoluted logic employed in attempts to reconcile a belief system based on nonviolence and mercy with church pews full of people with pistols. Mark did not prove me wrong but instead he quoted scripture that he believes proves him right. I have already conceded that my snarky approach was inappropriate, apologized for that, and pledge to refrain from sarcasm in this forum. If you would like to be more descriptive of what issues you believe I have I would be happy to attempt to address them. If you prefer to write me off as a lost cause, that’s fine, too.

mark
mark
  Duck N. Cover
October 13, 2019 1:27 pm

Duck,

I don’t see the logic being convoluted because of the reality the armed Christians in the Church pews are surrounded by in today society. Guns in American churches were not needed not that long ago. I don’t believe self-defense is just protecting yourself, but more importantly protecting innocent women and children around you, and that is not violating Christian non-violence and mercy.

One of the most violent, blood drenched books I have ever read is the Bible. Now its detractors will point at that, but the violence and the blood must all be examined within context of all of God’s word not just individual incidents.

I provided scripture on ‘turning the other cheek’ in relation to slights, insults, snubs, etc., as the Sermon on the Mount to me is the core of what Jesus communicated, but I don’t believe Jesus meant turning around so you could be shot by an AR 15 in both the chest and the back.

Now, I am not your average Christian having been powerfully and supernaturally converted (Born Again) until 43, having turned my back on God from 20 to 43. Lots of baggage, many scars. I found my arms were too short to box with God, but I tried. I had an extremely rough and tumble boyhood, barely survived a blood drenched war, and lived an intense (often violent) career confronting thieves at all levels, problem employees (slugs, bullies, professional victims using their protected class), embezzlers, etc. I have lived a life of confrontation, and when violence was needed – as a response – I never hesitated…once.

From where I sit in church…on the side…anyone coming in the back with a gun ..if he gets past the Deacon stationed there who is armed will be met by a hail of 9mm bullets from my Sig 365.

I am a Christian – but I am not a passive one, and I may not make the best martyr.

Duck N. Cover
Duck N. Cover
  mark
October 13, 2019 3:15 pm

That’s a very thoughtful and articulate response Mark. While you and I disagree about much you deserve respect.

motley
motley
  Duck N. Cover
October 12, 2019 2:03 pm

Say whatever you like … one way or another .. we’re all gonna find out the TRUTH …. some day. You ready ?

Botclan
Botclan
  'Reality' Doug
October 12, 2019 10:44 am

You really are deluded and lacking in understanding GOD, GUNS, and CHRISTIAN LIBERTY

https://chuckbaldwinlive.com/Articles/tabid/109/ID/3935/The-Religious-Right-Is-A-Blight.aspx

mark
mark
  Botclan
October 12, 2019 12:56 pm

Botclan,

I gave Baldwin’s ‘The Freedom Documents’ to my Grandson and every visit we will start going over them. He is currently sold out but a new printing starts soon.

The perfect CHRISTmas gift for anyone.

https://chuckbaldwinlive.com/Store.aspx#!/THE-FREEDOM-DOCUMENTS-Expanded-Edition-Compiled-By-Dr-Chuck-Baldwin-AVAILABLE-NOW/p/57560546/category=15986016

motley
motley
  'Reality' Doug
October 12, 2019 2:00 pm

Amazing the INNER ANGER towards people that acknowledge JESUS CHRIST. Their inner rebellion and awareness of such should function as a guidepost that they are on the wrong track. Or perhaps …. Romans chapter 1 says it all … their eyes have been permanently closed. More’s the pity ….

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  motley
October 12, 2019 3:20 pm

Naw…it wasn’t but 3 years ago I was a reformed Roman Catholic – an atheist. Each person is unique in the amount of trials he must endure to discover the path of righteousness. Picture Christ walking next to you, with one of the Road Runner’s sledgehammers in ethereal/spiritual form.

And I was one stubborn son of a bitch, I guess!

NtroP
NtroP
October 11, 2019 11:45 am

One of Kunstler’s best yet. A bit of Fourth Turning, shades of Brandon Smith regarding Trump’s role, with notes of financial Armageddon, anything goes and nothing matters, this ain’t no foolin’ around, all enveloped in an appropriate bull-fighting analogy.
What’s not to like?

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
October 11, 2019 11:57 am

The game show is supposed to keep us from noticing anything important, but remember, The truth is debased before the currency.

EC
EC
October 11, 2019 12:06 pm

It’s Halloween and Kunstler delivers the horror story. Kunstler is reheating the memes of the past years: last POTUS, bagholder, reality TV presidency, end of the world, etc. I’ve read before that Americans love to scare themselves.

I’m scared, now what?

Stucky
Stucky
  EC
October 11, 2019 12:26 pm

“It’s Halloween and Kunstler delivers the horror story. ….. I’ve read before that Americans love to scare themselves.”

Plus one (or, two) Bazillion!!

That’s EXACTLY what I was thinking as I was reading the article —> “Oh, Lawdy, more fear and gloom about the sky falling down.”

Yeah, old buddy … I’M SCARED ALSO!!!! heh heh When will it stop?

Frankly, I don’t give a damn; for one thing, I no longer think there will be a crash in my lifetime …. assuming I live another 20 years. And if there IS a crash? Frankly, I don’t give a damn; I have an exit plan. Praise da Lawd.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stucky
October 11, 2019 2:38 pm

Even if it isn’t the pond, the pond is still here,

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Stucky
October 11, 2019 3:50 pm

Stucky.
Give us a list of what we can discuss and post and we’ll quit upsetting you with unauthorized discussions.

dougnut
dougnut
  Stucky
October 11, 2019 4:00 pm

I’m with you Stucky, not in 20 or 30 years, the “debt load” is just another version of the “C02 load” in that they are both supposed to make you scared.

Both numbers are results of an ever expanding population, and besides, we print the money, we owe it to ourselves, we owe the cost of the paper, ink, and metal for coins, the rest is made out of “faith”.

Kunstler does not understand that Fracking has allowed US to convert (worthless) fiat into POWER that allows the US to dictate terms to OPEC, and not the other way around. It does not matter if it is frackers make a profit, the money lost can be written off, just like the MIC writes of $500 hammers and $89 Million per copy F35s.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  dougnut
October 11, 2019 4:53 pm

Dougnut.
Sorry but it don’t work that way. The debt is not the issue. the loss cannot be written off. It will be paid to the last farthing. If not by us then by our grandkids who survive. My late wife believed as you do. As a widow, she had her and her husbands life savings in “Accepted” retirement plans. Prior to our engagement I begged her to move her funds sideways into T-bills because she bought the company line that PM’s are losers so T-bills were the next best option. She refused to believe me because her “Nice young Broker” told her I was NUT’s. She lost half right away and her nice young broker skimmed another 1/4 in sideways trades to bail out his biggest clients at her expense. If she hand’t been married to someone like me who knew how to get it back the old fashioned way, She would have died without ever passing it on to her kids.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Fleabaggs
October 11, 2019 5:53 pm

90% of people would be better off to NEVER listen to a broker and simply buy equal amounts of McDonald’s, Clorox, Microsoft and some gas company like ONEOK and Berkshire B shares, put the first four on dividend reinvest (BRK-B has no dividend) and let the whole thing roll in an IRA.

subwo
subwo
  Harrington Richardson
October 11, 2019 10:58 pm

Decades ago I joined the National Association of Investment Clubs and purchased one share of McDonald’s stock. I purchased a little here and a little there through snail mail once I had my foot in the door with them. Then my son was born and I sold the stock and spent money on diapers. I was thinking about that this year and found a dividend calculator online and realized that if I had purchased $1000 in McDonald’s stock in 1986 and invested $100 per month I would have had over a million dollars worth in stock this past march. I don’t have enough time left in life to re do that investment and the stock won’t expand in future what it did in past. Of course the yearly tax bite on dividends would have subtracted from the net gain.

splurge
splurge
  subwo
October 12, 2019 11:03 am

It would have been really nice in an IRA ,no tax bite till you pull it to spend it.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Harrington Richardson
October 12, 2019 3:25 pm

Or into arable land in a culturally (spiritually) homogeneous locale…

Lars
Lars
  dougnut
October 11, 2019 8:53 pm

“…we owe it to ourselves…”

Dugout,

My simple-minded take is that the bulk of the debt is owed, not to ourselves the citizenry, but to the central ((bankers)) themselves who conjured the fiat fake money ex nihilo in order to buy the nation’s bonds. The addtional money is loaned into existence, at interest of course, and the tax-payers and their descendents are forced to collateralize the loan.

The early recipients of the newly created currency are not us, the main street citizenry, but instead the international banking ((cabal)) and their subordinate colaborators, who in turn make massive loans to governments and corporations worldwide, who, in turn and often enough, default on these loans, in which case the banks re-possess and then control an increasingly vast range of tangible assets like factories, farmland, mines, commercial real estate, engineering projects, and other resources that were held as collateral. Or these loans are renegotiated and extended with yet more debt, in which case the lenders ensnare the borrowers into perpetual indebtendness and dependency.

Manwhile the main street folk, like us, cannot access the newly created money until it has seeped further down the economic strata, by which time each currency unit in our pocket has lost yet more of its fomer purchasing power. Hence, in addition to being saddled with yet higher taxes to defray yet more usurious un-defrayable debt, the ordinary citizen sees higher prices for his quotidian necessities with no increase in his real wages.

My 2 bits.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Lars
October 11, 2019 11:56 pm

The lender of choice is the Federal Reserve, they take a percentage of every dollar printed, they loan the money to the government and they are the primary loan holder. Abolish the Fed.

John Galt
John Galt
  Lars
October 12, 2019 9:37 am

The banking cabal would not let Zuckerberg in so he created Libra the crypto currency and forcing himself to be accepted. They cannot have competing cryptos.

motley
motley
  dougnut
October 12, 2019 2:05 pm

Frackers are starting to drop like flies … it was all an illusion. You know that ….. right ?

mark
mark
  motley
October 12, 2019 3:50 pm

motley,

Kirby goes into great detail explaining your point here, and what WayfaringStrang3r said below, and how it ties into everything else.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  EC
October 11, 2019 1:24 pm

I kept reading, trying to find his point. Admittedly, I’ve never understood this Fourth Turning stuff. If it was “woe are we”, well that goes without saying. Good to see the Schtuckmeister here. Hope the battle is going OK.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Iska Waran
October 11, 2019 2:13 pm

The 4th Turning is just a study of cycles which mirror a lifespan. One generation of 20 years builds, one fuques up, one goes shithead and then the Grey Champion sets things aright, or not, and it all starts over again. It makes a good deal of sense.

M G
M G
  Harrington Richardson
October 11, 2019 4:23 pm

The most concise abstract of Strauss and Howe’s Theory I have seen.

Bravo.

But who/where are this 4th Turnings Poets?

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  M G
October 11, 2019 5:54 pm

Look in the mirror.

WayfaringStrang3r
WayfaringStrang3r
October 11, 2019 12:10 pm

The frac sand industry already trickled on down through the hourglass. Workers have been laid off and the trains are quiet here. Which means something has been up with shale for months now. Last time things slowed down the workers were eventually called back and the trains got rolling again, this time they won’t be.
And how can there be a “lack of authority” with this level of Kulturkampf coordination? Europe, Australia/New Zealand, Canada, all kinds of (until recently) unique and independent places are having the EXACT same political and social phenomenon, proceeding in the exact manners through all of their core institutions, though each nation-state has rather different sets of legal processes, media, values, and norms? All the same?
There’s no lack of authority, we just don’t know who it is or, we don’t know who they THEY are, we just know they’re there. At my house we refer to this entity as The Smoking Man, you know, the guy from X Files. The smell of smoke is everywhere now.
…and don’t say “jews”. It is not Jews.

Two if by sea, Three if from within thee
Two if by sea, Three if from within thee
  WayfaringStrang3r
October 11, 2019 12:40 pm

HAHAHA YES…Cancerman (you black lung son of a bitch) owns all our debt and he`s pining.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
October 11, 2019 12:12 pm

The inflationary depression he mentions may be starting. Seeing more headlines about wage growth and labor shortages. This hasn’t happened for the longest time due to the extreme Fiat being recirculated among banks instead of getting spent on tangibles. We’ve been getting sector food inflation for quite awhile but not wages. Walmart in my town can’t keep shelf stockers. Every visit they have gaping holes in the isles. That’s a sure sign of M1 and M2 velocity heating up but the fed makes sure we don’t get recent velocity charts. The next one out will be Oc. 27 for the quarter ended July 27. Right before the last Q E and before all these massive Repo’s. Just thinkin out loud. It don’t mean nothin, right Mark. We’ll soon see what really means somethin. Buy more Zombie Killers I say.

mark
mark
  Fleabaggs
October 11, 2019 2:16 pm

Flea,

Shit, I feel like I’m in a race to get my Alamo built before the popping of the bubble, and the Luciferians start playing the Degüello! (What ya gonna DEW?)

Got one more permit to clear from the county to be able to break ground. Cashing in my wife’s 401k (short term treasuries) and spending most of our fiat while it still has any frigg’in value.

I’m hunkering down as low as I can. Picking up a few more cases of Dinty Moore Beef Stew, and will check out the Ammo.com deal Admin has up.

This guy make a few good points:
FED REPO PUMPING CASH ABSOLUTE PANIC TO SAVE MARKETS! 401K’S AND PENSIONS RISK

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  mark
October 11, 2019 2:34 pm

Seriously, do not go whole hog on societal breakdown. I keep one foot in SHTF and one foot in DOW 30,000+. It’s easier to survive being half wrong. I was a Dinty Moore man too but the Campbell Chunky Sirloin Burger is also really good.

Lebowski
Lebowski
  Harrington Richardson
October 11, 2019 2:43 pm

Too much damn salt My blood pressure would be off the freaking charts if I ate that stuff

mark
mark
  Lebowski
October 11, 2019 4:07 pm

Yea, but me and Dinty go back a long way…and so far so good with the BP…but I hear ya Leb.

mark
mark
  Lebowski
October 12, 2019 3:56 pm

Lebowski,

Try orderless garlic pills and Hawthorn Berries for that high BP…worked for me.

Low cost natural way to get it down. Took it every day, big difference in two weeks.

7 Herbs Proven to Lower Blood Pressure

1. Celery seeds
2. Garlic
3. Hawthorne berries
4. Cat’s claw
5. Lavender
6. Cinnamon
7. Yarrow

https://www.herbaffair.com/blogs/blog/7-herbs-that-lower-high-blood-pressure

(Stay away from the Wino Barf…more for me).

mark
mark
  Harrington Richardson
October 11, 2019 4:18 pm

Thanks HR, I’ll give Campbell Chunky Sirloin Burger a taste test. Always ready to broaden my SHTF eating horizons.

But, I have broken up with the DOW for good…I’m too old and she is too fickle. I always leave her too soon, but better than being married to the bitch when she rips your heart out. After all she a kept woman and all that.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  mark
October 11, 2019 5:58 pm

The old “discredited” buy and hold has always worked for me. Get the good ones and stick with them and reinvest dividends. The Fancy Dans call it Dollar Cost Averaging.

mark
mark
  Harrington Richardson
October 11, 2019 7:21 pm

HR,

I have made huge money (for me) with stocks…but I took my profits and reinvested it in Cash, PMs and real estate. I managed to get off the roller coaster two times before the peak…but two times before the two biggest plunges of my lifetime.

I’m out now for the third time because the Mother of all plunges is coming by the Mother of all MFer’s who has ‘their’ hand on the roller coaster controls.

The MFer’s are the “THEY” anon was asking about.

John Galt
John Galt
  mark
October 12, 2019 9:48 am

Couldn’t figure out if i wrote this or not as it describes me exactly…..

mark
mark
  John Galt
October 12, 2019 1:22 pm

John,

Great minds invest alike!

motley
motley
  Harrington Richardson
October 12, 2019 2:08 pm

Actually sage advice! Some gold … some stocks .. some food … some ammo. NO DEBT!

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  mark
October 11, 2019 3:53 pm

Mark.
They’ve been dropping louder and louder hints that pensions are next for a haircut. I don’t see it as any different than the arranged Dot com bust that depleted retirement funds like my late wife’s. The pension scam will be part of the stealth devaluation I think.
Dinty Moore reminds me too much of Wino Barf. I’ll muddle through with freeze dried food and lots of spices. Freeze dried tomato powder ain’t too bad as a broth for the freeze dried stuff.

M G
M G
  Fleabaggs
October 11, 2019 4:26 pm

Wino barf? Thanks for that.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  M G
October 11, 2019 5:59 pm

I saw a wino barfing outside a hamburger place when I was in high school. Thanks for the memories you two. LOL!

mark
mark
  Fleabaggs
October 11, 2019 4:31 pm

Flea/HR,

Yea, I got out well before the Dot Com…Have two older cousins who rode that bull and both were gored big time!

Out early – back in late was my motto.

Now, I’m hunkered down with enough Wino Barf to ride out the thunder of the approaching four horsemen’s next stampede.

The early equities bird may catch the DOW worm…but sometimes that worm turns out to be a vicious poisonous snake.

That’s my two American Eagles, one Gold and one Silver.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  mark
October 12, 2019 12:00 am

Wino barf, it’s what plants crave….yum.

mark
mark
  Fleabaggs
October 11, 2019 7:31 pm

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  mark
October 11, 2019 7:38 pm

Mark..
He came into your safe room like that? Horrors.

mark
mark
  Fleabaggs
October 11, 2019 10:38 pm

I took it down because of the last line…I didn’t want to be disrepectful, forgot that was in it.

It a good movie, accurate.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  mark
October 11, 2019 10:42 pm

Mark.
What happened to you’re video of the drill sgt.? That’s what my joke was referring to.

mark
mark
  Fleabaggs
October 12, 2019 12:23 am

Good joke! See above.

John Galt
John Galt
  mark
October 12, 2019 9:44 am

Mark, we have our 108 acres 90 miles from anything resembling a medium sized city of (>50,000 people). Within 35 miles are cities less than 5,000. Completely hidden and likeminded neighbors in a farm belt. We have the roads and home spots cleared and soon the food plots. Deer green fields already exist (6). Tons of trees. City water and well will be dug. Hope to have the structures built before the election. We are in a furious pace as well. This delaying has caught up on us and by surprise. Distractions and Complacency has been replaced with urgency. Want to finance it with low rates and hope hyperinflation hits so we can use the excess money supply, valued resources (deer meat or crops) or a few “coins” to pay it off when an apple costs $50.

mark
mark
  John Galt
October 12, 2019 1:50 pm

John,

Yea buddy, my sense of urgency is on fire as well!

Sounds fantastic!

You are in a great location. You have a plan, resources, and situational awareness. Four things the average American is clueless about.

I’m on 14 acres, surrounded by four neighbors with similar sized places and a significant sized family owned farm all around me in various 50 acre plots. Two mid-sized cities are 22 and 30 miles away, with local Golden Horde potential.

Belong to a strong church/community. People all around here have gardens, animals, orchards, fish ponds.

But, there are plenty of cul-de-sac communities as well filled with families with three days of food and living on their credit cards, while driving 50k trucks and cars. Plus, pockets of trailer parks filled with the EBT crowd.

There will be chaos – but I believe that is “THEIR” plan.

I’m tied into the local Sheriff’s department through a close friend, and there is a National Guard unit not far filled with local Good ole boys. Those two organizations will be the dominant players short of a total Mad Max situation.

I need six more months to be behind two gates in a new home that is being built in deep woods. Have plans, preps, and arms if needed to hold, feed, and man/woman the place with extended family: five men, five women, and seven children. Two of the men are combat Vets and the other three are Bravehearts.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Fleabaggs
October 11, 2019 2:18 pm

Norma M193 Ball around $5 a box in 1,000 round cases @SGAmmo. You’ll never see anything marked Norma at a price like that again. If the Zombies are good and ripe and line up you might get a double or two.

mark
mark
  Harrington Richardson
October 11, 2019 4:11 pm

HR,

7.62 is another 2’fer option.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  mark
October 11, 2019 6:02 pm

If the Zombies are well aged maybe a three or four f’er. I don’t have any .308’s, just the old M2 Ball ’06 for the Harrington Richardson Garands.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
October 11, 2019 12:16 pm

It’s nitpicking to say it, but what is coming is not an economic collapse, it is a narrative collapse. All of the fictions created by the men who live outside of the natural world are finally being weighed in the great scale of reality. Fiat, fractional reserves, tranches, financial instruments, human equality, and politics- each of these relies 100% on the belief and acceptance of the public, not on reality.

Economies are made up of real things- property, labor, commodities- actual physical objects and actions that do not rely on beliefs to keep them functioning. Long after the trading houses have been abandoned, borders overrun, currencies made worthless, people will still need to eat, clothe themselves, use their hands to make things and repair what is broken. The economy that most people participate in is completely divorced from the illusory world of politics and banking, globalism and the military actions used to enforce unfounded fictions masquerading as the truth.

Nature, as they say, bats last.

Grog
Grog
  Hardscrabble Farmer
October 11, 2019 12:49 pm

Cleanup batter

robb88
robb88
  Hardscrabble Farmer
October 11, 2019 1:58 pm

pure truth once again from hsf.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Hardscrabble Farmer
October 11, 2019 2:19 pm

Methinks Kunstler is trying to combine too many narratives into one editorial. Trump is unleashing and attacking the bullshit surrounding the Ukraine ‘whistleblower’ narrative and pointing to Biden, calling attention to his perfidy. The dems have a lot to lose here, seems lots of them were balls deep in grabbing the Ukranian blood money.
As to economic collapse? I’ve been hearing that for decades. If it happens so be it, I’ve done what I can and no one knows the future, things can turn from shit to gold and vice versa in a heartbeat.

Lebowski
Lebowski
  Mygirl...maybe
October 11, 2019 2:46 pm

Shoulda collapsed in 2008 but (((they))) justprinted more Fiat Doesn’t mean it’s not coming now does it

Suds
Suds
  Mygirl...maybe
October 11, 2019 9:01 pm

Enjoyed that cover version, Girl. Thx. for posting.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Hardscrabble Farmer
October 11, 2019 2:25 pm

Very profound. “Narrative collapse.” Quoting Professor Higgins: “By Jove, I think you’ve got it!” These two paragraphs plus a sentence could be a stand alone article.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Hardscrabble Farmer
October 11, 2019 4:00 pm

Hfs. It’s still going to collapse and the economy will be the thing people remember when they have to sell their wife for a sandwich and we aren’t going to see this economy you are talking about till the blood and bullets stop flowing.

M G
M G
  Fleabaggs
October 11, 2019 4:30 pm

I revisited the slaughtering of 800,000 Rwandans in 1994. One night while UN troops “monitored” the tensions.

UN leadership forbade troops from interference.

April 1994

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  M G
October 11, 2019 4:36 pm

MG.
I remember that. I don’t know much about it but I remember reading how Anan waited till the bloodbath was over.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Fleabaggs
October 11, 2019 6:04 pm

I recall the cowardly Dutch soldiers running away instead of getting behind a couple of FN MAGs and doing their job.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Harrington Richardson
October 12, 2019 12:09 am

I revisited the Odessa massacre….the lead up to the millions and billions of dollars that went missing and into the pockets of the likes of the Bidens, Kerry, Pelosi and others, and their larvae.
Hatred towards such levels of greed that allow mass murders and wars for profit has turned from red hot to implacable and ice cold….

Donkey
Donkey
  Mygirl...maybe
October 13, 2019 10:39 am

Seems greed causes lots of problems. One could say, more problems than envy?

Drud
Drud
  Hardscrabble Farmer
October 12, 2019 2:12 am

It should be all the way true, but it isn’t. Narratives make up a huge portion of economes and always have. Real things take human effort to produce… human effort is applied when people decide putting in effort is a worthwhile thing to do… the primary mechanism for this is narrative… assay least for the vast majority unable or unwilling to think beyond it.

Don’t take this for a second as a contradiction, but rather an expansion. The collapse is all about narrative, but so it’s damn near everything human.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Drud
October 12, 2019 11:43 am

Drud.
Show me some historical headlines about “The Narrative Collapsing”as opposed to markets dried up. That argument sounds clever on the surface and sure makes one look intelligent and learned here on TBP. It takes money to maintain a narrative. If you want to Call the violence and or despair that follows a collapse an economy go ahead. If anarchy is considered an economy go for it. That’s what farmer was insinuating. That the financial conditions right now are fiction and when Fiat collapses looting and stealing and killing will be considered an economy that resulted in a narrative collapse. People loose their saving long before they realize they were lied to because the NON Reality economy collapsed. Narratives are lagging indicators not leading indicators. They are used to change or prop up already existing systems economic systems. The truth is debased before the money but people who are suddenly poor blame the money. Remember Clinton’s slogan about the economy.

Drud
Drud
  Fleabaggs
October 12, 2019 11:51 am

I don’t disagree with anything you said either. Narratives are lagging indicators… I’m just saying narratives are the foundations upon which civilizations (and of course economies) are built…because the direct the psyche… which in turn directs the mind and thereby the body.

Fergus
Fergus
October 11, 2019 12:24 pm

The craziness began with the Clintons moving FBI files into their White House Crime Family bunker. Any pretense of normal government was abandoned, but it took Obama to bring us to true Banana Republic status. We’ve had a deep state for a while and a swamp, but it took Obama to make it international. We are no longer one nation because the people that hate it have imported millions of non Americans to bolster their numbers to give the appearance of solidity. Its third rate dinner theater. So the Left has adopted full scale police state tactics straight out of Weimar.

Our Civil War didn’t start at Sumter. It took ten years of radicals on both sides to destroy any good will, but it was the final step, the training, funding, and recruitment of terrorists in the North that drove the final wedge into the nation and determined what was to be.

Today the Left uses Antifa. They opennly label those who oppose them as “enemies of the people,” just as the Red Guards did in Cambodia and China.

So be it. Only a fool doesn’t understand what will be the end result. But it takes a fool to underestimate what results will be produced. I spent 30 years overseas in warzones and see the mindless, random violence. You unlease it there is no turning back, there is no appeal to mercy, there is no goodwill. We will not all “be Americans.” This is the lesson of civil wars which are the most terrible kind of war that exists.

A storm is coming. Prepare.

RebelRedneck
RebelRedneck
  Fergus
October 11, 2019 1:10 pm

The Mule Shoe at Spotsylvania , the Cornfield at Antietam and “Picketts Charge” at Gettysburg. That’s all I need or want to know about Civil War lessons.
They are indeed horrifying and brutal.

nkit
nkit
  RebelRedneck
October 11, 2019 4:44 pm

Indeed, and that’s just a small part of it.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Fergus
October 11, 2019 2:27 pm

Fergus: You touch on something of great importance. Those wishing for some kind of war, civil or otherwise are simply insane. They have no idea of the horror, insanity, vicious rending and tearing of flesh and utter despair and complete destruction that is war. War is listening to the screams of your best friend as she burns to death in an apartment hit by a phosphorous bomb.

Gloriously Deplorable Paul
Gloriously Deplorable Paul
  Mygirl...maybe
October 11, 2019 6:48 pm

Agree. I don’t want it at all, but if it comes let it be to me and not my kids and grandkids.
My sacrifice would be nothing if it would help them.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Fergus
October 11, 2019 3:00 pm

Antifa is the real problem. They are an equivalent of Red Legs or Missouri Bushwhackers. Armed Partisans like we saw in Jugoslobovia. PLEASE NOTE: While things are so chaotic in Kurdish areas and we do not have the real story, we have been told the Turks are going after the PKK which is pretty much a communist terrorist organization and should probably be wiped out on general principles. There is an article on Gates of Vienna purporting that a number of Antifuques from the US and Europe have been doing “tours” with the PKK to “gain combat experience.” This is also perhaps why the Progs who normally sit quietly while communists are suppressing and massacring are all aflutter over Trump pulling out of the PKK areas and letting old Ercep have a free hand. Their little darlings are going to be ground up by the Turks. They have a large, serious military and are badass to the core.

Bob The Retard
Bob The Retard
October 11, 2019 12:51 pm

Most relevant to me is that there is no longer any “social compact”. There are millions upon millions of separate realities in the US today and a good number of them are flat out, batshit crazy. Between yesterday and today the dollar index has dropped over 100 basis point. Despite intervention by the Federal Reserve, overnight Repo funding is getting worse instead of better. The banks don’t want to lend to other institutions. To me, that says a hell of a lot.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Bob The Retard
October 11, 2019 2:10 pm

Agree, very relevant. The decline is underway, the outcome is unknowable and admin has succinctly discussed the possibles. Earlier, I asked who is “they” and got beat with a stick. I look around and see my neighbors, and a whole lot of folks that are not “they.” Where are these enemies of us who are ready to drag us to the gulags? My preparations are many, but making stupid claims about an unidentified enemy is not one of them. The Art of War is referenced here often, some comments here sound as if clucked by Chicken Little.

Lebowski
Lebowski
  Anonymous
October 11, 2019 2:49 pm

(((They))) know where you are though Be sure of that

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Anonymous
October 11, 2019 4:05 pm

anono.
You’re neighbors will become “they” who drag you to the gulag.

Bob The Retard
Bob The Retard
  Fleabaggs
October 11, 2019 4:19 pm

WORD. Take it to heart folks.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Fleabaggs
October 11, 2019 5:14 pm

Maybe you should get new neighbors, if you’re in that situation, Flea.

mark
mark
  Anonymous
October 11, 2019 4:51 pm

Anonymous,

Your handle along with that cryptic who is “they” comment implied we don’t know who “they” really are or you don’t or you are skeptical there is a “they”.

Keep the stick beating in context of your three word ‘anonymous’ comment.

I gave you specific families/names of who “they” are at the top of their one eyed pyramid, and the general list of their flying monkeys.

“They” won’t drag you out of your house themselves, but “they'” will set up the collapse/war that will provide the fuel for the fires. Who knows, one day instead of dragging you out “they” just might DEW you or any of U.S.?

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  mark
October 11, 2019 5:19 pm

Mark.
Or drop a designer germ on him.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Fleabaggs
October 11, 2019 7:59 pm

Christ, Flea. Paranoid much? I ‘ve been here for a few years and come to measure the chatter. Camo an”t much use when you jump up and down with your finger wagging in the air. Pick your fights or you’ll be out of ammo the first day.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Anonymous
October 11, 2019 9:27 pm

anono..
I have no idea what you are saying. I can guess though. You just haven’t got a clew. Pick my fights WTF you talking about.
You don’t think they will gas you or that these nice neighbors of yours will turn you in in a New York minute when they have one of their kids hostage. Or surround their house and demand they rat you out. Mark was talking about hitting them you with a directed energy weapon. I was talking about germ warfare.
You throw out cheap insults like who is they while hiding behind a non name so we never know which anonass idiot is talking. You don’t even know your neighbors but you will. Spend a few bucks and download Selco’s stories.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Fleabaggs
October 12, 2019 2:58 pm

Anon: Both Mark and Flea are veterans and they know what they’re talking about…the brutality of war cannot be understated, ditto for the perfidy of men.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Bob The Retard
October 11, 2019 3:04 pm

Yes, but. The USD has been 98-99 and TPTB would like it a lot closer to 90. That said I reject and resent the FED. It should simply not exist and all rates and prices should be discovered by the marketplace and not a room full of Ivy League Shitheads who have never worked outside of government and academia.

No. 9
No. 9
October 11, 2019 1:40 pm

I’m torn.
With JKs final 3 sentences, I don’t know which music vid to post.
Mettalica’s Nothing Else Matters, Michael McDonalds What A Fool Believes, or Talking Heads Life During Wartime.

We have an estate liquidation company round these parts named Everything Goes.
Kind of like a garage sale operator for hire, catering to frugal people who know quality used stuff that might be useful, at a lesser price than new, if one doesn’t mind 2nd hand shopping.

I’ve stumbled upon a few gems on the cheap, from time to time.

But hell. I should probably consider having a yard sale of my own to clear out the clutter, as yes, Jim. Nature does abhor a vacuum.
Purging brings its own rewards.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  No. 9
October 11, 2019 3:20 pm

I’ve got the Bosnians coming up to the farm tomorrow to slaughter a bullock they paid for earlier this week. They love it here, say it reminds them of home-somewhat wistfully. The youngest guy is around 40 and the little he has shared about home makes him clench his jaw and get kind of weepy. He said he grew up with war and that he sees it coming here.

Anyone have any questions I should ask them?

Fetch My Flying Monkeys
Fetch My Flying Monkeys
  Hardscrabble Farmer
October 11, 2019 3:53 pm

How long did it take for them to realize it was legitimate war?

M G
M G
  Hardscrabble Farmer
October 11, 2019 4:40 pm

Have been reviewing that and Rwanda both.

Tragic stories of regional and ethnic hatred.

lager
lager
  Hardscrabble Farmer
October 11, 2019 4:42 pm

Might make him weep with anger, but if he could read the report of that survivor from Bosnia, or Serbia, who described the chaos, dangers, plunder, and lawless desperation that occurred during that ethnic cleansing civil war that ripped apart Yugoslavia, and either substantiate it or refute it, or add his own experiences, I’d find that interesting, Marc.

Cuz, well, it could be the shade of things to come, here in the Land of the Fee and Home of the Slave.

What was that dude’s name?
Selko, or some 5 letter name similar. Broken English report that preppers use for motivation.
I’d do a search, but am preoccupied.

Thanks, HF.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  lager
October 11, 2019 5:28 pm

Lager.
Selco is correct. Go to selco SHTF. It’s the real deal. What I saw the Vietnamese do to their own people Saved me from buying the lie that people are inherently good.
God says Man is depraved. I believe him. Anyone don’t believe in God? No sweat, He invented the Law of Karma just for you.

M G
M G
  Fleabaggs
October 11, 2019 5:52 pm

Saw stories that seem to prove that the youth of today were raised on terrorist manna.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Fleabaggs
October 11, 2019 6:43 pm

“God says Man is depraved.”

And the mirror proves it. Make it a good weekend Flea.

22winmag - w/o tagline
22winmag - w/o tagline
  Fleabaggs
October 11, 2019 7:18 pm

That’s what I was referencing months back.

When they pulled you guys back from certain areas, a lot of civilian scores among the Vietnamese were settled after dark and people woke up dead.

mark
mark
  22winmag - w/o tagline
October 11, 2019 9:14 pm

.22,

They were slicing 5 year old throats as village object lessons on both sides before we even got there.

Its human depravity from the fall…and all it requires is beings who are human…and lost.

Hey…just curious…does Mathis have anything on the DEW being used world wide??? Now, there is an opportunity for an essay on a real threat, just saying.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  mark
October 11, 2019 10:53 pm

Mark.
right. and they were also selling their neighbors kids age 0 to 18 to the international kiddie sex vendors. The ones not so pretty ended up in a picture on My War living on a skate board. Depravity knows no race or color.
Those DEW’s have been developing for a long time so I’m sure they are well along in serviceability. I remember an article in Proceedings around 81 discussing them as anti cruise missile defense for ships. I don’t know if charged particle beams are exactly the same but they were also being discussed.

mark
mark
  Fleabaggs
October 11, 2019 11:39 pm

Flea,

The DEW mass murders and indescribable destruction to me are so obvious, so in our faces, and evidently so successful I’m just stunned over the muted responses throughout the world, but especially here in the U.S.

For two years in a row they have evidently gotten away with mass murder.

Now, there are some powerful websites with the evidence, I have posted many of them here. But, the media is so tightly under “their” control not a peep to the sheep!

And as usual…not a peep back from the sheep.

It pisses me off.

mark
mark
  22winmag - w/o tagline
October 11, 2019 11:50 pm

.22,

I wasn’t teasing you about does Mathis have anything on DEW?…I was serious.

I would think that nightmare would interest you? There is hard video, photographic, eye witness, and scientific evidence of DEW’s being used on American families being burned (actually cooked) alive while sleeping in their homes or frantically trying to escape in their cars.

What does Mathis say about DEW’s? Anything?

Come on man – you like to research and read, me too! This is something you can sink your teeth into.

They destroyed six small towns full of well-armed, anti-government Americans. The area was swarming with miltary and the power company, wait for it – is owned by the Rothschild’s.

https://thefreedomarticles.com/dew-laser-weapons-used-against-people/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=150&v=PqyaMdmcUo4

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  mark
October 12, 2019 11:53 am

Mark..
Iv’e said on here often that they will just vaporize or use germicide on pockets of resisters rather than send troops in. I only prepare for events like zombie hordes or a possible controlled uprising where we have enough support from somewhere to prevent them using these tactics on us.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Hardscrabble Farmer
October 11, 2019 6:09 pm

What side or faction were they from? Muslims, Serbians, Kosovars? Which group scared them the most?

M G
M G
  Hardscrabble Farmer
October 11, 2019 6:56 pm

https://youtu.be/vDADy9b2IBM

I know you are aware but the turbulence of the early Clinton years should have warned us.

The Timothy McVeigh production was around the corner.

22winmag - w/o tagline
22winmag - w/o tagline
  M G
October 11, 2019 7:19 pm

Classic!


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gatsby1219
gatsby1219
October 11, 2019 3:36 pm

Somebody forgot to tell Wall Street.

22winmag - w/o tagline
22winmag - w/o tagline
October 11, 2019 5:06 pm

I’m excited about Clinton 2020.

If not, Warren will do.

Anything to watch Trumptards end their state of denial, with swan dives off tall buildings.


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Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  22winmag - w/o tagline
October 11, 2019 6:16 pm

Karma would involve you letting her park her gorgeous naked fanny on your face for fifteen minutes on YouTube with Stucky doing a play by play and EC doing the SAP in Spanish.

M G
M G
  Harrington Richardson
October 11, 2019 7:40 pm

Hillary’s?

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Harrington Richardson
October 11, 2019 10:23 pm

H R – I’m going to have to hit the bottle again, so I don’t go to bed thinking about how terrible that would be.

EC the vulgar
EC the vulgar
  Harrington Richardson
October 11, 2019 10:51 pm

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Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Harrington Richardson
October 11, 2019 11:30 pm

Ok, now I’m gonna get sick….thanks for that mental visual…

deplorably stanley
deplorably stanley
October 11, 2019 8:32 pm

In the last 19 years the US has imported 50 Million immigrants. Could that be responsible for some of the turmoil we’re seeing today, ya think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjrYcQatmoQ

22winmag - w/o tagline
22winmag - w/o tagline
  deplorably stanley
October 12, 2019 7:45 am

How many of those 50 million are Commie/Jihadi?

Okay, now how many would be Commie/Jihadi for pay?

Anonymous
Anonymous
October 11, 2019 11:57 pm

At least he is calling out bull shit as bull shit !
Next rather than call a spade a spade he will call it a fucking shovel !
He did call Biden an Obama ass kisser , sounds like truth to me

John Galt
John Galt
October 12, 2019 9:23 am

“US debt has gone hockey-stick parabolic, racking up $814 billion just since August. Math majors may see that’s close to a trillion dollars, or 4 percent of the total $22,837 trillion, just in a few months.”

Yet wall street goes crazy when employment (jobs created) numbers are off by .12% for the month and is only approx 1m a year in a 360m population. Employment numbers for the year would show like a 3% increase for the entire year!

The numbers above (4%) is within a ONE month period. Extrapolated would equate to a 48% increase in what should qualify as QE. Yet you hear nothing on msm about it. This is because they want the crash closer to the election and not now! This was similar in 2008, 2001, 1993. The media does a few stories at midnight or NYT writes an article and places it on page 24. They can then refer back that they told you so to keep credibility.

I have found there are similar historical initial warnings about 9 months prior to major calamity and it takes less than 3 months to crash. That puts us August of next year for a full blown media frenzy narrative of crisis. Couple that with some new racist narrative, impeachment etc etc. We have the making of a real and final globalist deep state full frontal assault coup….the crash will occur after re election or new president. Either way the goal, “will be Trumps fault.” If he is not re elected they will go after him and destroy him and his legacy. It may be history in the making; a former president locked up. Warranted or not. These people want to set precedent you are with them or against them. If against you will comply or die.

I fear when these people gain power.

KaD
KaD
October 12, 2019 10:22 pm

Rich Higgins was fired by McMaster for trying to stop the coup

Now he’s written a new book explaining everything
chrome-extension://oemmndcbldboiebfnladdacbdfmadadm/https://unconstrainedanalytics.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Unconstrained-Analytics-Left-Strategy-Tactics-280819.pdf